Off Duty Shooting
- An off-duty Chicago Police detective shot at two males who allegedly tried to steal from a Jewel store Wednesday night in the Norwood Park neighborhood.
The detective was shopping at the Jewel at 7342 W. Foster Ave. about 7:10 p.m. when store employees told her there was a theft in progress and pointed out the robbers, police said.
The detective approached them in the parking lot. They had gotten into a vehicle they had loaded with the stolen merchandise, police said. When the driver accelerated the vehicle at the officer, she shot at them in “fear of her life,” police said. No one was injured.
The suspects were arrested, police said.
We scanned one of papers on-line and the usual suspects were up in arms about the gunning down of poor misunderstood people (or folks) who try to run down people with cars. No one got hit, but they were appalled that people might get shot committing crimes. The comments have since disappeared, but when the media leaves their comments unmonitored for any length of time, you can see why so many figure Chicago is lost.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
66 Comments:
Only Risk your life for people that care about you, Fuck loss prevention
I take my gun with me when I go to that shopping mall. The House of Pies was robbed, the Jewel/TCF bank has been robbed, vehicle thefts have occurred in the parking lot. I believe the bank, before it was a Bank of America, was robbed. Not to pact the gun when shopping there, at various times is asking to be a victim. Home invasions have occurred in the area. The neighbor is not the quiet place it use to be back in '60s and '70s.
Gun violence is to be deplored no matter who holds the gun and does the shooting.
Off-duty LEO's should not carry a gun. They are only shooting people who are about to turn their lives around. It's not fair.
Glade the PO was not struck by the wild life, I'm sure a few negative officers are going to say " she should call 911 and not get involved off duty" etc because we are by far are worst enemy's ..... But for me we are the POLICE and job well done... Stay safe we brothers and sisters
7342 W Foster??
That ain't in the Hood. Is that neighborhood crumbling too or was this an "isolated incident"?
So much for thinking you live in a "nice area' or a relatively "safe area".
Robert Hack, of Des Plaines, was sentenced in October 2013 to three years in prison for a robbery conviction!
Governor Quinn explain Why your administration let early this scumbag!
Good for her, too bad she missed those POS's!
If you're gonna carry a banger, practice with the damn thing!
Not a single living ass should be telling their story after these bad encounters BUT The Police.
BIG Spender said...
7342 W Foster??
That ain't in the Hood. Is that neighborhood crumbling too or was this an "isolated incident"?
So much for thinking you live in a "nice area' or a relatively "safe area".
8/08/2014 12:41:00 AM
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go ahead, call it northwest Humboldt Park, what the heck!!
Many times, at the sight of crime, our instincts kick in and we perform our duty. Unfortunately, in this era we should just say fuck it and call it in. I applaud every effort, but at the same time I am concerned for the fellow officer's safety and what IPRA and the department will do. Any real P.O. knows that the right thing was done but Joe "The Jagoff" Liberal will cry about civil rights nonsense until his wife is bricked in the head in a Gold Coast alley and sodomized.
Good work copper!
Glad you're ok office. Also glad you were armed.
On the night it happened wgn news reporter pretty much stated that she shouldn't have shot at the offenders because she was in a parking lot. She also said that the people inside the Jewel were being held HOSTAGE as they had to wait to be interviewed by police. She didn't even mention that they were trying to run the officer over.
"Robert Hack, of Des Plaines, was sentenced in October 2013 to three years in prison for a robbery conviction"
Why is he out???
Gun violence is to be deplored no matter who holds the gun and does the shooting.
I sure hope this is sarcasm. If not, don't worry. The day will come when the savage will be on your door step. And if I'm around, I'll make sure to call 911 and hope the good guys get there in time.
Only Risk your life for people that care about you, Fuck loss prevention
Think of this as a cancer. Shoplifting would be this particular cancer in the early stage. If you take action against the shit head offender enough times the word will spread around to avoid this area. Cancer in remission.
If you take no action, the cancer spreads and becomes aggressive. Then your nice, quiet neighborhood where the "people that care about you" live turns to shit.
I was at that Jewel a couple years ago shopping and the young stock boy was fighting with the junkie from Hardwood Hts. stealing a few hundred dollars of razor blades. Had to take police action couldn't stand there and do nothing. She did a good job and Thank God she wasn't injured.
At least this detective took action!
Way back in the day a detective acted like she was blind and did not lift a finger.
and yes she still is on the job.
Anonymous said...
Gun violence is to be deplored no matter who holds the gun and does the shooting.
8/08/2014 12:24:00 AM
Stupidity is to be deplored no matter who holds the keyboard and does the typing.
You are a moron.
She stepped up. She took the risk. She didn't want to see her neighborhood victimized any further.
I keep seeing on many news articles of police involved shootings where it's quoted the police were "In fear of their life" when in a deadly force situation. One does not need to be in fear of their life to use deadly force plain and simple.An officer is authorized to use deadly force when he/she or someone else is about to receive serious bodily harm or substantial risk of death.
Good for her, happy she was not hit. This area is going to shit fast but hey, that's what tiny dancer wants. Having said that, how did the Jewel employees know she was the police? I carry always but when not in uniform no one knows. With all the threats against police anyone who drives their personal car all decked out is asking for trouble. If your in uniform and/or driving your "marked" car the bad guy will spot you before you spot him. Those were the rules 30 years ago, today that is more true than ever.
Anonymous said...
Glade the PO was not struck by the wild life, I'm sure a few negative officers are going to say " she should call 911 and not get involved off duty" etc because we are by far are worst enemy's ..... But for me we are the POLICE and job well done... Stay safe we brothers and sisters
8/08/2014 12:30:00 AM
Why is it negative to say call 911 and don't get all Billy Badass about shoplifters while you're off duty? No people were hurt. They stole items from Jewel. I'm not taking anything away from her but calling the ON-DUTY police to address shoplifting and giving a good description of the vehicle and offenders then being on your way makes more sense to me. She almost got hit by a car off duty trying to stop...shoplifters. No thanks.
Yes , good job , glad she wasn't run over. Never criticize another police officer unless you were there .
to the detective great work im glad you are all right , they got the mutts, for all tyou hero police who work in the ghetto, come to 016 and protect the homeland,
Check the money box on the OT slip!
I live 2 blocks from there its still a good neighborhood,Remember shit heads go where stores dont have security.
Anita and her band of social worker states attorneys will not approve charges on a shoplifter who takes food items that is another way for them to blow off felony charges so that the low life can continue to thrive in Chicago.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I take my gun with me when I go to that shopping mall. The House of Pies was robbed, the Jewel/TCF bank has been robbed, vehicle thefts have occurred in the parking lot. I believe the bank, before it was a Bank of America, was robbed. Not to pact the gun when shopping there, at various times is asking to be a victim. Home invasions have occurred in the area. The neighbor is not the quiet place it use to be back in '60s and '70s.
8/08/2014 12:16:00 AM
How many pies did they get?
it's time we have to start protecting our neighborhoods from these animals what are you going to do runaway from these shitheads we have to elect government officials who have the same mind set we do not the rhams and obamas but real people I know it won't be easy but we better come together on this or we loose everything we work for good job officer.
I only care that the officer is okay and went home safe.
Why is it negative to say call 911 and don't get all Billy Badass about shoplifters while you're off duty? No people were hurt. They stole items from Jewel. I'm not taking anything away from her but calling the ON-DUTY police to address shoplifting and giving a good description of the vehicle and offenders then being on your way makes more sense to me. She almost got hit by a car off duty trying to stop...shoplifters. No thanks.
8/08/2014 09:02:00 AM
I Agree 100 %
sure try to stop them if you want to get involved but if they bolt to car and want to drive away, let them call it in you have description of them of car they would have been stopped shortly by on duty police
the 2 chumbalones in custody are of the eastern-european hoodratwannabe FUBU-wearing whiteguy variety. only problem with lighting up one of these meatheads is you could ignite some 900yr bloodfeud that would consume future generations. ah, fuck it, you see em coming in thru the bedroom window or back door, blow em to hell and God.
Why is it negative to say call 911 and don't get all Billy Badass about shoplifters while you're off duty? No people were hurt. They stole items from Jewel. I'm not taking anything away from her but calling the ON-DUTY police to address shoplifting and giving a good description of the vehicle and offenders then being on your way makes more sense to me. She almost got hit by a car off duty trying to stop...shoplifters. No thanks.
Because we are the police. If you do not want to be the police fine, pick another career. If the above comment was posted by a civilian I understand why you would think that way. If it was posted by an officer I hope I never have to work with you.
Ok not what I would do for the Jewel's property but I will never judge another PO's actions. Yes the northwest side is full of scum now especially with section 8 housing.
What surprises me is that when I came on over 30 years ago every copper carried off duty anywhere and everywhere we went even the watch parties and gin mills which might not have been a good idea. Back then in the academy as soon as you went into your blues and got your star you carried all the time. But back then a PPO after his FTO time could work alone and you did many times.
The job has changed so much but I sure would like to know what idiot at the academy ever convinced the young coppers not to carry off duty. It changed maybe late 90's but there are many who never carry off duty now. Get your shit together all you younger coppers and remember you are the Police you chose to be the Police and on or off duty you should always be armed like the Police.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you're gonna carry a banger, practice with the damn thing!
Not a single living ass should be telling their story after these bad encounters BUT The Police.
8/08/2014 04:53:00 AM
Have you ever actually SHOT at a moving car? If you aim for the windshield, half the time the bullets glance off, some of the time the bullets shatter, but don't break it.
Don't Monday morning quarterback. Be glad she stood up and acted like the police and be glad she wasn't hurt.
Detective... THANK YOU for being the real police and instrumental in housing these two pos in my hood.
Even more grateful that you are safe and sound. God Bless.
Retired, grateful brother LEO
Ask Gov Quinn and his parole expert, former CPD gold star Mike Mc Cotter. His job was to stop early release of con' in hte IDOC. Guess the part time job at 160 K needs a pay raise.
Fuck these asshols. Good for her, stay safe out there.
To all you people saying it was just shoplifting....these 2 shitbags were felons who just got out of jail not long ago thanks to Cook County justice. Next step for them may be armed robbery and murder. Glad she took them off the streets for a few hours.
Just for you coppers that say don't get involved and call 911...its not an option. As a retail manager, if the perp is out of the building I'm told to call 311. After sitting on hold for 30 minutes the cop on the other end insults me after i tell them I need to file a police report. By that time, dope head shoplifter is long gone and goes on to continue in his ways. Thanks Rham and McCarthy for that lovely gift with the 311 bullshit!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ok not what I would do for the Jewel's property but I will never judge another PO's actions. Yes the northwest side is full of scum now especially with section 8 housing.
What surprises me is that when I came on over 30 years ago every copper carried off duty anywhere and everywhere we went even the watch parties and gin mills which might not have been a good idea. Back then...
8/08/2014 03:48:00 PM
Why might it not have been a good idea? None of us shot each other, none of us blew the windows out at Ira's, no one took a potshot inside Mike's. We carried, we drank and we socialized. We also had common sense and didn't settle arguments with guns.
There is no area of this city that is safe from the savages anymore, coppers on Northside and southside made the areas the place to live back in the day. A lot of coppers, firemen and other city workers made us feel secure, but thanks to the open housing market and parents not controlling their thug kids, they buy houses in our good areas and bring all that gangbanging Shit and friends with them, thus causing havoc. Section 8 housing will always be a failure due to the people that are in the program are useless mooches, the program does not force them to work and they just loaf about. I live on the border of 25 and 16 and really, there is less crime on my beat 2511, then there is in some section of 16. The 22nd district is just being devastated by thugs. It is really time that all of us take a good look around us and when you see things, call 911 and keep these thugs in your sight, Fuck the police who respond and do nothing. We all need to step up, we have to live here so protect your investments.
Anonymous said...
Robert Hack, of Des Plaines, was sentenced in October 2013 to three years in prison for a robbery conviction!
Governor Quinn explain Why your administration let early this scumbag!
8/08/2014 12:43:00 AM
He will only do half his sentence at any rate, that is a year and a half. Quinn is letting many go who get within two years of their release date. So to make a show, the guy gets three years, does a couple of months, Quinn saves money, the guy gets told "This time we really mean it buster, don't do that again! please." And out he goes.
@ 8/08/2014 05:01:00 PM
Doubt if that was MMQB but these mutts DO seem to have the devil's luck when a Copper or an upright citizen endeavors to righteously put some criminal dicks in the dirt permanently.
If the Detective's rounds actually bounced off the windshield, a serious re-evaluation of ammo is in order.
Anybody remember that bad dream inducing 147 grain subsonic 9mm when other PDs and the feds were running 115 & 124 grain +p & +p+?
Too much good ammo out there nowadays that will puncture windshields and the bad guys behind them.
"It's YOUR hide... How much do YOU value it?"
Can't exactly remember which upright gunman said that.
Col. Cooper or Bill Jordan.
The Detective is lucky and blessed.
"If it was posted by an officer I hope I never have to work with you.
8/08/2014 03:48:00 PM"
Right back at you Officer Trickbag
"The neighbor is not the quiet place it use to be back in '60s and '70s."
Quiet? Try again. That Jewel& Turnstyle had been robbed a bunch of times in the 70s along with Walgreens,Ace Hardware, Playback, Columbia Bank & Frank Hansens Fish Pier. Purse snatchings along Harlem avenue,vehicle thefts, burglaries. It was quiet, still is, but crime free?Hardly.
"Robert Hack, of Des Plaines, was sentenced in October 2013 to three years in prison for a robbery conviction"
Why is he out???
Robert Hack was one of the guys who was arrested last year at Wrigley Field for stealing an autographed bat and them fighting with the police.
Well ask the guy who blew up a 6 pack theif years ago outside a Walgreens. It cost him 50 G to stay out of the joint.
But next time I see the gypsys cleaning out the ham case I'll pull out the ole .44 and do a Callahan, "I know what your thinking, did I fire 6 shots or only 5"?
Who wants to retire anyway? My goal was always to be a legend on an anonymous Police blog.
To the unpublished "MF"
Quit putting up shit that we have to take out
Asshat
On the night it happened wgn news reporter pretty much stated that she shouldn't have shot at the offenders because she was in a parking lot. She also said that the people inside the Jewel were being held HOSTAGE as they had to wait to be interviewed by police. She didn't even mention that they were trying to run the officer over.
8/08/2014 07:10:00 AM
I agree with you. I saw that reporters story and it was very anti-police, misleading and flat out inaccurate.
I hope WGN gets a ton of complaints about her.... being that she's an F/1 doubt that they'd act on it.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ok not what I would do for the Jewel's property but I will never judge another PO's actions. Yes the northwest side is full of scum now especially with section 8 housing.
What surprises me is that when I came on over 30 years ago every copper carried off duty anywhere and everywhere we went even the watch parties and gin mills which might not have been a good idea. Back then...
8/08/2014 03:48:00 PM
Why might it not have been a good idea? None of us shot each other, none of us blew the windows out at Ira's, no one took a potshot inside Mike's. We carried, we drank and we socialized. We also had common sense and didn't settle arguments with guns.
8/08/2014 10:03:00 PM
Shhhhhhh!
To all you people saying it was just shoplifting....these 2 shitbags were felons who just got out of jail not long ago thanks to Cook County justice. Next step for them may be armed robbery and murder. Glad she took them off the streets for a few hours.
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I agree, but get a license plate and call it in. If 16 doesn't do anything Harwood heights or norridge cops love getting their rocks off on that shit. Still would have gotten them off the street and less jammed up.
8/08
10:03pm
You must have forgotten about the guy that killed his partner on the expressway ramp after a long night of drinking. Yeah I know us old timers were the best had common sense and always fought like men, but be honest if you got any time on this job I remember many off duty incidents.
By the way I always carry off duty even when having a few cocktails and most of us can handle it but let's not deny that even in the old days some never could.
Why might it not have been a good idea? None of us shot each other, none of us blew the windows out at Ira's, no one took a potshot inside Mike's. We carried, we drank and we socialized. We also had common sense and didn't settle arguments with guns
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Memories !! Dearly departed Mike was a Saint to so many copper'. He probadly left with a million owed to him. Neighbors beefed about a cop bar in their yuppie hood when it changed and Mike closed the place.
The likes or Mike' and Ira' bars are history. And there was History at these two legend bars.
God bless all the good men that sat in these bars and have went to the Lord.
Good times and memories, you young copper' would of loved to sit a speel in them.
I take my gun with me when I go to that shopping mall. The House of Pies was robbed, the Jewel/TCF bank has been robbed, vehicle thefts have occurred in the parking lot.
8/08/2014 12:16:00 AM
How many pies did they get?
8/08/2014 12:11:00 PM
If I recall correctly, there were 2/3 shitheads that robbed every customer in the joint -- not "how many pies did they get?" No room for humor there, wise guy.
"Why might it not have been a good idea? None of us shot each other, none of us blew the windows out at Ira's, no one took a potshot inside Mike's. We carried, we drank and we socialized. We also had common sense and didn't settle arguments with guns"
What about the OCD sergeant who pistolwhipped and beat the hell out of the m/1 at Mike's and got the whole thing shut down for good because he is a hot head nitwit? There's some responsible drinkin'.
Good job, office. Glad you're OK. You absolutely did the right thing and I would have done the same.
Anonymous said...
"Why might it not have been a good idea? None of us shot each other, none of us blew the windows out at Ira's, no one took a potshot inside Mike's. We carried, we drank and we socialized. We also had common sense and didn't settle arguments with guns"
What about the OCD sergeant who pistolwhipped and beat the hell out of the m/1 at Mike's and got the whole thing shut down for good because he is a hot head nitwit? There's some responsible drinkin'.
8/09/2014 06:29:00 PM
Were you there for that? Did you see it?
Anonymous said...
Why is it negative to say call 911 and don't get all Billy Badass about shoplifters while you're off duty? No people were hurt. They stole items from Jewel. I'm not taking anything away from her but calling the ON-DUTY police to address shoplifting and giving a good description of the vehicle and offenders then being on your way makes more sense to me. She almost got hit by a car off duty trying to stop...shoplifters. No thanks.
Because we are the police. If you do not want to be the police fine, pick another career. If the above comment was posted by a civilian I understand why you would think that way. If it was posted by an officer I hope I never have to work with you.
8/08/2014 03:48:00 PM
"Because we are the police"...(superman music). I doubt you'll ever have to work with me and that suits me just fine. It's funny how many guys talk about happily being dogs during the work day and now how many people are saying "we're the police" when we're off. And no I'm not a civilian. I was poking my nose into unfair fights (strangers) with outnumbered parties when I didn't have a badge or gun. If it took you to be the police before you could stand up for strangers...you're not in much of a place to give me career advice about being the police.
..."Why might it not have been a good idea? None of us shot each other, none of us blew the windows out at Ira's, no one took a potshot inside Mike's. We carried, we drank and we socialized. We also had common sense and didn't settle arguments with guns."...
8/08/2014 10:03:00 PM
Well, almost never. I remember sitting in a bar on south Wells (across the street from the old Gusto Inn)when someone let one rip through the ceiling. His buddies hustled his ass out of there pronto. No harm no foul I guess.
Not sure if it was CPD. There were a lot of state and federal guys that warmed bar stools in that area. "Those were the days my friends..."
NC
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you're gonna carry a banger, practice with the damn thing!
Not a single living ass should be telling their story after these bad encounters BUT The Police.
8/08/2014 04:53:00 AM
Have you ever actually SHOT at a moving car? If you aim for the windshield, half the time the bullets glance off, some of the time the bullets shatter, but don't break it.
Don't Monday morning quarterback. Be glad she stood up and acted like the police and be glad she wasn't hurt.
8/08/2014 05:01:00 PM
Ok we'll I guess you have shot at a moving car. Bravo little dick. Now let me crush your fragile ego. You fucking missed the windshield idiot. The bullets didn't "glance off." Let me give you a little tip. I'm not sure what dimension you are from but I'm this realm car glass doesn't break like standard glass.
There is always more to every story...It was much more than a shoplifting incident as the news stated...It was a seriously dangerous situation. .that needed to be stopped for the safety of all in the area...
There is always more to every story...It was much more than a shoplifting incident as the news stated...It was a seriously dangerous situation. .that needed to be stopped for the safety of all in the area...
They were in a car with stolen groceries. What was the safety issue for all in the area?
"...no room for humor there, wise guy..."
My pretty loft has several rooms for humor. Care to join me?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
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