Thursday, August 07, 2014

Constitution? What Constitution?

  • Activists against the city's red-light cameras are accusing the Chicago Police Department of trying to "bully" and "politically intimidate" them during a recent protest at 119th and Halsted streets.

    Citizens to Abolish Red Light Cameras posted a video online recently which shows a police sergeant calling protesters' signs blasting the camera program and local politicians "slanderous" and then threatening to arrest at least one demonstrator.

    According to group member Scott Davis, about 25 to 30 protesters were standing on the sidewalks at the four corners of the intersection holding signs and passing out fliers opposing red-light and speed cameras last month.

    One hand-lettered sign said, "Got Tickets? Blame Austin," referring to Ald. Carrie Austin, whose 34th Ward is where the intersection is located. Other signs called out Ald. Howard Brookins (21st), Ald. Anthony Beale (9th) and Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

    [...] One officer, Sgt. Herbert Brown Jr., called the protesters over to one of the corners, they said.

    He then began speaking to the group, according to the video filmed by a protester and posted on YouTube.

    [...] "Because all of these slanderous signs — you understand what I'm saying," Brown can be heard saying on the video. "That's not what we're about. This sign about Beales [sic], this sign about the mayor. You have to have a permit to do this."

    In the video Davis can be heard saying, "We have a permit — the U.S. Constitution."

    Around that time Brown takes his handcuffs off his belt and threatens Davis with arrest, asking loudly, "You want to go into the [police] station?"

    "I'm ready to go," Davis replies.

    Brown later says, "All I'm saying is there's a way to demonstrate, and then there is a way not to demonstrate."

    At about the midway through the video, Brown seemingly shifts gears, saying his real problem is with the demonstrators blocking the flow of traffic.

    "I just say don't interrupt the flow of traffic," he said.
Maybe he should have said that first and then shut up and "monitored" the situation before reporting to his superiors. He obviously has no experience with the Constitution, the oath he took at least twice (hired and promoted), and the Consent Decree that he signed for on at least two occasions.

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69 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

And this guy made it by rank order? Doubt it! Merit hack guareenteed.

8/07/2014 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never open mouth unless you can keep foot from entering. It is obvious that Sgt. Herbert Brown Jr was not taught this vital lesson.

8/07/2014 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are the odds that he is a merit pick sgt.?
Anyone want to hazard a guess? Unreal.

8/07/2014 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Political repression done at the hands of Tyrant Mayor Rahm Emanuel!

8/07/2014 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is the ACLU when they should be busy?

Crickets???

8/07/2014 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These revenue generators have increased accidents at every intersection they have been installed at and have been ruled UNCONSTITUTIONAL in various courts across the United States.

8/07/2014 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How dare they expose the Mayor and the Alderman bilking the citizens!

8/07/2014 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another merit promotion

8/07/2014 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any Alderman who voted for speed or red light cameras should be voted out of office!

8/07/2014 12:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go Scott Davis!

MLK Jr and Ghandi would be proud!

8/07/2014 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone needs to tell Brown that politicians can't be slandered during protests. Another merit hack showing his allegiance to his master. Future exempt without a doubt.

8/07/2014 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt Brown is good people. He is doing a job that many including myself would not want, CAPS Sergeant in 005....yuk!

8/07/2014 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK... Cut to the chase.

Which one of the named aldermopes is this clown's clout?

Fuuuuuuuh-huuuck!

Whatever happened to keeping your mouth shut and be thought an idiot than being that clacking set of wind-up dentures and removing all doubt?

A hard tumble out of that rather tall dum-dum tree and hitting every branch on the way down.

God Help This Department.

Police like you have no friends.

8/07/2014 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These are our best and brightest. Sweet huh?

8/07/2014 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Clearly a merit sgt... If he actually studied he would know what to do. Typical know nothing hardass copper. Do what I say, even if the cop is dead wrong then get called on it and threaten to lock them up.... I love it, dude says I'm ready. Bluff called sarge. If you knew what u were doing then you could talk to people without looking like a complete schmuck..

8/07/2014 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quit picking on Herb Brown. All he had to do to get promoted was to get himself locked up, talk some shit, take the punishment, and only announce he was the police at bonding ,while threatening to sue. Other than that, we're proud to have him in the Sgt ranks.

8/07/2014 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im glad he is in a shit district!

Put a goof like that in 018 and he would have his own youtube channel.

8/07/2014 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just like herb to start a bunch of mess.

8/07/2014 01:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Herbie Brown. Merit sgt out of iad in 2000.

8/07/2014 01:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sometimes we can only stand by and watch, just accept that. That's what makes this country great. If you don't like something, say something. Who cares if people protest the red light cameras? We still need to figure out our pensions and benefits. Retro check? Possibly? Lift the residency rule? Please? Hello? Anyone?

8/07/2014 02:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One of the biggest idiots I have ever met. Loves to hear himself talk and talk and talk. If you want a good laugh ask around about how he got his stripes. Glad he left 007

8/07/2014 03:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A real horses ass.

8/07/2014 03:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DA Constitution Doesn't Apply in ChIraq
Dumbass tough guy CPD SGT knows better "You wanna go into the station"
LoL Priceless

LAW SUIT

8/07/2014 03:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Merit hack through and through............


Definitely doesn't know when he should shut his mouth............it has gotten him kicked out of a lot of spots.

Herbie, please do all of us a favor and retire.....you'll never get Merit LT, even if you sue.

8/07/2014 03:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the guy is a know it all and has been his whole career. one of many problems regarding the supervisors on this job: prideful ignorance.

8/07/2014 04:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another MERIT hack who BELIEVES he is smarter than everyone else and that's is why he was a "CHOSEN " one. The TRUTH is that HERBIE doesn't know when to STFU. Never has and never WILL.


Former 715

8/07/2014 04:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"... Who cares if people protest the red light cameras?..."

Hell, I'd like to join them!

8/07/2014 04:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is a total embarrassment to this department. He is unprofessional and is incredibly inarticulate. This guy likes to hear himself talk. Spent many years with him in 007 and it's amazing how he still has a job.

8/07/2014 05:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sure the free-speechers and high-profile protestors don't come to 005 often, but how does the Sgt. not realize that this is clearly a First Amendment issue and should be handled delicately? And more importantly, does he not know that it's 2014 and YOU'RE ALWAYS BEING RECORDED!? Get with it.

8/07/2014 06:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Sgt Brown is good people. He is doing a job that many including myself would not want, CAPS Sergeant in 005....yuk!

8/07/2014 12:41:00 AM

Speak for yourself. I'll take his job. He's making a hundred grand a year, he's on days and his pension is at sgts pay. They're plenty of qualified people that could do his job but were never given a chance because of politics.

8/07/2014 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is he the sgt brown at vri? He sure does like to give us some stupid pep talks there.

8/07/2014 06:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Herb, Herb, Herb. Merit sergeant after he sued the Dept when he got his ass kicked by two moron coppers in 015 (I believe) while he was working undercover in narcotics. He was right, they were wrong. But he does seem to need a bit of a refresher in the law.

8/07/2014 06:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sound like merit to me. Quota quota quota.

8/07/2014 06:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the retirees who comment on the blog about how patrol needs to go back to the old school way of policing....

To the retired detectives who gloat about how THEY would have gotten a confession or solved the case..,.

THIS is what policing is in 2014. Always having a camera in your face, and having to deal with citizens who understand their rights much better then those you had to deal with

Just be thankful you were lucky enough to go through your entire careers without having to deal with what we do

8/07/2014 07:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Herbie is a complete embarrassment. Another merit hack who doesn't know when to STFU.
CPD promotes the most incompetent, pathetic losers.

8/07/2014 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brookins, Beale, and Rahm had him over for dinner that night and told him thanks but to tone it down so as to not draw too much attention.

8/07/2014 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This POS, disgrace to our uniform, is the product of IAD. Think about the quality of IAD personnel when you see this mope.

8/07/2014 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What this exposes is the city of Chicago moves rookies and the bottom of the barrel in bad and dangerous districts while everybody else with seniority and clout fight for 14th district and similar. The people of the south and west side should protest and sue Rahm and Garry. Just wait, the Trib will do a piece on this soon.

8/07/2014 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can you say merit promotion?

8/07/2014 07:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That boys and girls is how you get a merit promotion

8/07/2014 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt Brown is good people. He is doing a job that many including myself would not want, CAPS Sergeant in 005....yuk!

I call bullshit. He's not a CAPS Sgt because we all know that CAPS Sgt's never leave their office. They would burst into flames once the sunlight hits them. They send their minions out to do their bidding. That would explain why most ( if not all ) CAPS offices are loaded to the brink with P.O.'s.

8/07/2014 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You would be surprised at the number of cops or members of the armed forces that have never bothered to read the constitution or the bill of rights. How can you swear to uphold and defend something you haven't read or believe in truthfuly? I carry my pocket constitution around all the time just in case anyone wants to challenge me.

8/07/2014 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Open mouth, insert foot, then try to pull foot out of mouth and deny that you tasted leather. Clean your shoe before they test it for DNA.

8/07/2014 08:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Worked for him in housing south, asshole then and an asshole now

8/07/2014 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is typical of many sergeants citywide. Many are connected and or don't know anything about his job. I don't typically go to sgts unless I must. I go to other more experienced blue shirts for help.

8/07/2014 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody know the best way to disable the damn things?

8/07/2014 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That isn't just a merit hack right there, that is a lawsuit against the department. The guy is an idiot and he got locked up, sued and got promoted.

8/07/2014 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saw the video on you tube
Another example of the best and brightest
Takes handcuffs off belt , you want to go to station , treating citizens like gang bangers
What a fine example of a supervisor

8/07/2014 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he is a merit sgt. who was made because he was going to sue the city because he got his ass beat by the police when he was undercover in narcotics....

8/07/2014 10:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boy, some people sure love to hear themselves talk.

8/07/2014 10:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know Scott Davis, and I like Scott Davis. Scott Davis is a fellow "Campaign For Liberty" patriot.

Too bad I can't say "Who I am" without retaliation because of the Socialist-Democratic city.

Oh, by the way, I've protested with Scott(just the two of us) at Harlem /Northwest Hwy against the red light camera's.

To the South-sider that confronted Scott..."Learn the Constitution, you Obama kool aid drinker"

America

8/07/2014 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In herb's defense, I know him and he knows everything. Just ask him!!!

8/07/2014 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just spoke his mind right or wrong free country, but woe to police officers caught on camera saying or doing anything, a civilian doing this nothing happens but a copper doing anything is f@@kec! 9 months left cannot wait to retire and no worrying about my pension being taken away, ahh unless rahm continues to bankrupt it,but then again Detroit tried that theft game got caught now the federal money goes to the first responders pensions first the rest to the pathetic city of Detroit management!

Detroit set the precedent rahm now you and the 59 puppets really need to do your duty and put the 600 million owed in, or are you going to play the Daley crazy man trick?

8/07/2014 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Herb Brown is one of those guys who are morale busters. However he is so-ooooo in love with himself. Xxxoxo

8/07/2014 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt Brown, sir you made YouTube and the SCC Blog. LOL!!!!!

8/07/2014 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Herb Brown was the school Sgt. in 7. he did a good job, at least he was out there and tried to keep the good people safe.

8/07/2014 11:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is a merit hack. A joke of a sgt.

8/07/2014 12:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Quit picking on Herb Brown. All he had to do to get promoted was to get himself locked up, talk some shit, take the punishment, and only announce he was the police at bonding ,while threatening to sue. Other than that, we're proud to have him in the Sgt ranks.

8/07/2014 01:11:00 AM
Ha exactly. What was his alias he used when he got locked up? Kyle Adams i believe. It is so sad and pathetic all this city cares about when promoting someone is if theyll be a puppet to the machine not if maybe theyre smart and qualified.

8/07/2014 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a cop,I have friends on the job.
Love reading this blog and True news.
The comments have me laughing my ass off.I lived there when it was great to live there.Now it has been turned into a giant shithole for the most part.Rotten cocksuckers like Rahm, and McDrunko are always looking for a way to trickbag the police. And that walking tumor Daley he sodomized that city so bad it will never recover.

8/07/2014 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

merit sarge tryin to impress the lady cop
shows handcuffs , threatens to lock up , protestor baciccy says bring it on sarge
on second thought I was just funning with you cause we thought there was a fight out here
don't be inta ferrins in the traffic ya undastand
I should b a lt , merit of course
fn joke merit stupervisors

8/07/2014 04:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Hugh Jaynus said...

Just another suckass dildo doing what he does best.

8/07/2014 05:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I side with the Protestors, too!

FUCK RAHM!

I didn't Vote for that little weasel!

U.S. Constitution comes way before punky City Ordinances!

Da Pelon

8/07/2014 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all, we know how the good sergeant got promoted. The real issue is this: how did he get hired in the first place??? Any copper stupid enough to go against the U.S. Constitution is just asking for trouble and must not be very smart. Maybe that's why he got promoted?

8/07/2014 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And this is surprising why?

8/07/2014 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never thought much of him. More incompetent than anything.

8/08/2014 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Political repression done at the hands of Tyrant Mayor Rahm Emanuel!

8/07/2014 12:22:00 AM

Oh,please. The Sgt. is just a goof. One of many wearing white shirts that don't have a clue.

8/08/2014 08:16:00 AM  
Blogger Rob Crawford said...

Anyone ask him which law makes slander a criminal offense?

8/08/2014 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sic semper tyrannis, sergeant. You are a disgrace to the department. But, again, you are beholden to your socialist masters in city hall and we all know where their loyalties lie. They trample the Constitution on a daily basis and asshole like you help them to do it.

8/08/2014 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do Tell.

What is the contract between our government and the citizen, or between the policeman and the Federal govt?

And *how long do you think you can keep this up?*

You do realize you're the actual Independent Judiciary in effect for some time now, yes?

I am actually very pro-cop, but do note we seem to be running out of wiggle room for ..everything.

Helmetta NJ PD actually deserves praise for pointing out that it's decimated and this part ...is over.

Ciao
VXXC

8/08/2014 12:17:00 PM  

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