The Government Lied?
- Activists upset with the increased jet noise from the new runway configuration at O’Hare International Airport have said they believe the city and the FAA conspired to hide the impact of new flight patterns on homes and businesses along airport flight paths.
WBBM Newsradio [...] reports there has been a steadily growing chorus of complaints about jet noise since the opening of a new east-west runway in October 2013, sending hundreds of flights a day over a narrow corridor.
Figures the FAA provided in 2005 regarding the percentage of flights O’Hare runways would carry after the $8 billion airport expansion project was completed were incorrect, and significantly underestimated the impact of runway traffic.
With billions in construction contracts on the line, is anyone really surprised that Daley manipulated the data or had the data manipulated? Shortshanks didn't live north and didn't live in the 'burbs, so what the hell did he care about noise data? Not that we have much sympathy for those complaining either - the airport has been there for decades. It's not like some big secret. And to keep the economic engine running, "improvements" will have to be made near constantly.
But why is anyone surprised anyone associated with the government lied?
But why is anyone surprised anyone associated with the government lied?
Labels: corruption
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
85 Comments:
"Not that we have much sympathy for those complaining either - the airport has been there for decades. It's not like some big secret."
If you're complaining about the noise, next time fly out of Midway. You'll show them!
Some times the government must lie. If they told citizens the truth, they might revolt. As for jet noise, a wise man once told me, "don't buy a house within five or six miles of a busy airport". He was right. No sympathy for the whiners.
It is not a case of someone buying a house next to the airport for a bargain price complaining about the noise. Such people brought themselves to the nuisance, as you suggested, and ought not to complain. The controversy is on account of high amounts of air traffic passing over neighborhoods that were not previously subject to flight patterns and which, in many cases, are miles away from O'Hare.
I would say that it's one thing if you already lived on a runway flight path and then newer/larger planes were making louder noise.
However, if they re-route a flight path right over your home, that can be a huge difference.
It is horrible in 016, I think that Laurino, O'Connor, Arena, Quigley, Schakowsky, Mulroe, Martwick, etcetra all better watchout! I have never seen people so pissed off! I will vote for ANY non-incumbent.
Property crime is skyrocketing!
They are going to make Milwaukee Ave a two lane street from 5200N-6400N completely destroying the neighborhoods, killing the remaining businesses and causing massive traffic congestion, snow removal problems and clogging the side streets with overflow traffic.
The Airplane noise is out-of-control! Planes low flying at all hours of the day and night shaking the houses, exceeding the sound ratings, destroying property values and quality of life!
There are little to NO police patrolling the NW side neighborhoods!
Water bills are skyrocketing! Property taxes are going up, city stickers are going up, cellular phone taxes are ridiculous!
I live right between Lawrence and the Kennedy and can't hear shit since the runways and flight plans changed...and NO, they weren't this loud when we moved in here so stop with the shit of "you didn't know that the airport was here before you moved in" nonsense.
My house has been here before the airport and I live 11 miles from it and still the noise is crazy so go figure.
It's time to hire a sound consultant to conduct noise level readings and sue the City.
Join FAIR, file complaints online everytime you are harassed by the new runway noise and pollution.
Further sodomization of a once Great City. By the criminal enterprise known as The Daley Family. Richard M. Daley aka DUM DUM. Sans the last B
Another jagoff quality of life issue delivered by the Chicago politicians!
Ruining what's left of Chicago one day at a time!
It's no wonder everyone is running from this shithole. The sad part is that the NW and SW sides were strong, united communities at one time. No more, everyone is bailing and things just keep going downhill!
"Hey, you knew when you moved there.....".
When they changed the runways they changed everything.
Wait till the retirement age is increased, you annoying pricks will shut up then.
It's pretty damned loud when the cargo planes are coming in. I'm one block out of the "free sound proofing" zone. fml
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The Department of Justice does not have receipts for more than half of the unaccompanied alien children apprehended at the southwest border by Border Patrol since the start of fiscal year 2013, government records show.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection data show more than 85,000 total apprehensions of unaccompanied alien children during fiscal year 2013 and fiscal year 2014 through June. Information from the same time period provided to National Review Online by the DOJ’s Executive Office for Immigration Review shows 41,592 total receipts marked as juvenile in immigration courts. Kathryn Mattingly, spokesperson for EOIR, tells NRO the receipts refer to new Notices to Appear (NTA) — the document the Department of Homeland Security uses to charge an illegal immigrant with being removable from the United States.
EOIR has recorded 20,814 receipts marked as juvenile in fiscal year 2014 as of June 30, but Border Patrol recorded 57,525 apprehensions of unaccompanied alien children during the same time frame. This means immigration courts have receipts for fewer than four out of every ten unaccompanied alien children apprehended by Border Patrol this fiscal year. Mattingly said EOIR stands behind the numbers of receipts it has recorded, but would not speak about the difference between the number of juvenile receipts and CBP’s apprehension data.
more: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/385016/government-has-no-receipts-thousands-unaccompanied-alien-children-ryan-lovelace
Quit bitching. We have a ton of noise in Bridgeport. They changed the flight plans out of Midway and have recently gotten some very low flying places over our houses. It's called city life my friend.
I love it.. Hey you knew when you moved there. Another couted piss ant spouting off. As for Oconnor, Buh Bye Wallflower.
I live 20 miles west of O'Hare. Since the new runways opened my quiet neighborhood between two golf courses and forest preserve land has been considerably noisier. I moved here because of how quiet it was. Thanks, Daley.
Everyone who signed a petition years ago, to approve the expansion, has nothing to stand now. Lesson: never sign a petition.
The only way to make things better is to raise taxes. We live in one of the world's great and famous cities. It's OK to pay for that privilege and honor.
I have lived near O'Hare since '03. My house is right under a flight path. At first, the jet noise was irritating. Now, I don't even hear it because we have gotten used to it. Also, they must rotate runway use because one day we'll have the jets either landing or taking off and the next day nothing.
Government lied to us too
Ripping our pensions and health care apart
"And to keep the economic engine running, "improvements" will have to be made near constantly."
Sounds like the same argument the government is using to eliminate, oh I'm sorry, "reform" our pensions!
My home in the "burbs" was built in 1927. When Orchard Field was a buss with single propeller planes. I don't live by the airport, I now live in it. If the airport needs to expand I think we all get that. Add the western access construction mess and this has turned into a nightmare for most of us. Help the people get out of the way. You would be surprised just how many "people" would gladly move on which completely contradicts what the local government will tell you. We are all pretty sick of the lies on all fronts.
Lets not forget that they changed the approach pattern to Midway also. Planes are now flying much lower over Bridgeport and Pilsen. And Daleys left over Aldermanic yes man, Balcer, also pushed for and approved a heliport for a tourist company with tens of flights each day at 22nd Halsted without letting the neighborhoods know until it was too late. But it is all good because Balcer and his son rode in those helicopters and knows how quiet they really are. I hate this city.
Call 311 to complain, go on the cityofchicago website to file a complaint and join FAIRChicago.org, at least you can join the growing number of people who are fed up. The noise is horrendous since they moved the runways, even people in wildwood, sauganash and albany park are getting it, and they are nowhere near the airport. I live under the Thorndale runway and every two minutes for hours at a time there is jet noise. I had to say goodbye to my back yard and now have to move.
I used to live in Des Plaines. Yeah I Knew there was a big airport closeby. Planes are noisy. So what is the big deal? They flew in and landed. I moved eventually. Planes still fly over my house now. Deal with it. Or move.
The old saying that should make anyone cringe..."We're from the government we're here to help you"
Seriously, are there still people out there, who believe that BIG MONEY interest won't always win out?
I am 3 blocks from the O'hare flight path and it has always been annoying,particularly in the summer.The noise lately at certain times actually hurts our ears as we sit on the back deck of our house. I have filed a complaint with O'hare and O'Connor. I urge others having the this issue do the same.
But without the lies construction might not have started . And with no construction what would all those politically firms do for a living?
Just so happens, the Commisioner of Aviation, Andalino (wife of red light camera king ) and highly qualified public servant ( she was promoted from hairdresser to commisioner ) may have cooked the books at the behest of little richie. Possibly she lied to the feds, which if it was us, we would be gone.
The Alderperson who has the airport in the ward will not return phone calls or messages from certain POs who complain about the goings on.
Perhaps her catering company go some side business?
I am glad the feds are starting to look into these people. Hopefully its jail for them all!
I don't notice much noise living in Bridgeport tbf. Far more from EM vehicles and ghetto trash.
A recent research article listed the most corrupt states in the union. Of course, Illinois was a prominent entry. But, the one key point that tied all of the corrupt states together was construction projects. Yes, construction at a much higher rate then the better run states. Surprisingly, Californa and NY were not on the top ten. It cited the fact that corruption can be hidden in these projects. No surprise there.
Big Shorty "Comes Up Short"?
There's those words, again!
Did Chicago's facial recognition system catch its first crook?
How advanced police technology comes up short
When Pierre D. Martin was arrested on robbery charges, it didn’t seem like an unusual case. There were nearly 12,000 robberies reported to the Chicago Police Department last year, and Martin was charged in two of them after allegedly carrying out daytime stickups on commuter trains. But a July 2013 Chicago Sun-Times article pointed out why Martin’s case stood out: he had been identified using facial recognition technology.
Martin was convicted in June this year. At that time, the state’s attorney, Anita Alvarez, told the Sun-Times: "This case is a great example that these high-tech tools are helping to enhance identification and lead us to defendants that might otherwise evade capture." But those tools — purchased by CPD through a $5.4 million federal grant — may not be as necessary as Alvarez would have you believe.
Martin's attorney told The Verge that facial recognition tech wasn’t even mentioned at trial. And a Freedom of Information Act request with CPD revealed "no responsive records" related to the department’s use of facial recognition technology in any arrests, including Martin’s. That could mean CPD is concealing arrests tied to facial recognition. But Hanni Fakhoury, a staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, offers another possibility: "Maybe ultimately facial recognition isn’t really all that effective," he wrote in an email to The Verge. Maybe "all this money being put into it is a waste."
read the whole thing at the posted link above
He was right. No sympathy for the whiners.
Continue filing the property tax appeals. When the pols figure out it is costing them what they think is their money, they will again re-configure the patterns. Might even do it for the Bridgeport guy
(youtube) - Abandoning America
There's no upside to being an American company.
After all the tax breaks, government subsidies and even taking peoples property away thru eminent domain laws, that's not enough.
Corporations have chewed all the meat off the bone and are now fleeing the country with tax inversions and other schemes to protect their wealth from the coming economic collapse.
This clip is right on.
Expect capitol controls soon to prevent the public from moving their assets off shore.
When it all collapses people better have better provided for their own self defense.
When the 2 million plus people in Chicago can't get their food stamps because the US can't sell bonds to borrow money anymore because no-one trust the bonds will even be paid back -- what do you suppose is gonna happen?
When the social security checks stop?
When CPD payroll checks bounce?
When the trillions of dollars being borrowed to create the illusion of economic growth is no longer able to be borrowed. Where's the money going to come from to keep this economic fraud going?
Hey, my guess is CPD is not going to work for free if the paychecks stop.
Even if they did who's gonna buy the gas for the cruisers, the lights, the ammo, the infrastructure?
People, y'all better learn how to be self-sufficient esp. when it comes to self defense.
There just might not be anyone coming to do the dirty work of saving us as we cower in the corner waiting for the good guys to arrive.
The corporations are fleeing with their money because they see what is coming and with it go the tax dollars that once supported what is now a crumbling infrastructure.
The corporations are done with the USA and all of us. Time to move on and rape some other community.
Try ear plugs.
"My house has been here before the airport and I live 11 miles from it and still the noise is crazy so go figure."
Maybe they could turn off their engines 15 miles out and coast in.
That's an airplane I wouldn't want to be on!
"Not that we have much sympathy for those complaining either - the airport has been there for decades. It's not like some big secret."
This won't be a problem once Jesse Jr. gets out of prison and is re-elected.
Peotone Intergalactic Airport will be a reality!!
"Hey, you knew when you moved there.....".
When they changed the runways they changed everything.
Wait till the retirement age is increased, you annoying pricks will shut up then.
But will YOU shut up then?
I'll take the airplane sounds.
The strangest period of time in my life was the week after September 11th.
No airplanes, except for the occasional military jet at high altitude.
The sounds of commercial jets are reassuring.
I'll learn to live with it.
rb
"If you're complaining about the noise, next time fly out of Midway. You'll show them!"
If you, your friends or family fly in/out of O'Hare, you have no right to complain. You're part of the problem. Boycott O'Hare!
I went from having zero planes flying over my home to now I'd say an average of 20 - 25 planes per hour fly over or near my home approaching Ohare. Luckily, I'm still far enough away that they're not that low, but it is still kind of annoying. Also, if you drive North, you can see these planes are approaching from all over the place (one right after another) where they were not doing that before the expansion. It has definitely affected most resident's quality of life IMO. Only thing that really pisses me off were the estimates of plane traffic given by the FAA. They stated before the expansion that there would be roughly 70 flights per day approaching over my area, where in reality it's closer to 250 - 300+ flights per day. Just one extra FU from the Daley crime family. I look forward to moving someday (or at least trying to).
I see the FAiR people are stuffing the comments. Can't you guys just go back to Reddit?
They changed the flight plan and lied about the impact to push it through. You get that right? The Politicians screwed the citizens again. You get that, right?
Be concerned about what the politicians do to your fellow citizens. Stop them when you can. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. If you only get mad when it involves you, it WILL eventually involve you. You get that too, right?
"That's what you get for moving next to an airport." Seriously? We're ten fricken ten miles away. They built a new runway, which they lied about. There were other options to build runways over expressways and industrial corridors but they didn't.
As usual they just lie and push shit through no matter who and how it affects people. There's too much money for developers to make to let quality of life and tax payers stand in the way of lining the pockets of the connected.
That's been the problem with this city and most projects they do.
So please don't blame people who live 10 miles from Ohare for "buying next to an airport." It's an ignorant response.
Wait till the retirement age is increased, you annoying pricks will shut up then.
8/09/2014 01:29:00 AM
Take the plug out of your arse and put it in your ear. Half the airplane noise will disappear. Stop commenting here and all YOUR noise goes away.
Go fuck your self with the airport was here first bullshit !!! The new runways has destroyed the northwest side of Chicago . We should not get all the airport traffic. Good tax paying people Are starting to leave, the Northwest side of Chicago . The suburbs are laughing at us .
Daley Sez: Don't worry about a ting.
Every ting was done for da shilldren. Cause da shilldren are da future.
When I was groing up my fadder, mudder, brudders, and sissers would wak over to comiskey to watch da Sox. Even back den it was bout DA shilldren!
Ask anyone in the flight paths affected by the noise how successful they were getting the promised noise abatement.
Yet another scam.
No one reasonably expects the flight paths to be altered. O'Hare is a major hub in the national air system. Adjusting the boundries for qualifying for extensive home improvements, windows, doors, a/c, insulation is the only goal.
The sound insulation program is itself rife with politically connected contractors and private entity managers.
I live right off Foster. These newer flight patterns fly directly over Higgins and Lawrence (Gunnison) so we have stereo flight noise.
Yet the city, et al does not even consider this area affected by flight noise and do not qualify for the advertised sound abatement program that was used to sell the new runways.
I hope all those involved in the lies to the government get hammered, including short shanks.
If so, I would then be able to sleep soundly, despite the noise, knowing these lying SOB's paid the price.
Until then I'll beef... "No Justice, No Sleep."
Hmmmm...
Reason why Rosie Andolino squawked, pooped and flew away like a bird?
Feds breathing hard on her ass for the shit she pulled at the airport for Crime King Shorty?
Heh... Naked and afraid.
Just how we like corrupt political types.
Move
To all the jagoffs posting here you need to get a clue. Whoever used the phrase "useful idiots" was right on target. Your attitudes are PERPETUATING THE PROBLEM. You really dont get it, do you? The ones saying "Live with it" and so on, DO NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE NOISE! Do you realize that ypu are now stuck with real estate that is undesirable to most people? Should we all claim bankruptcy due to the reduced value, take a loss and say, "Oh, well.." The reason corruption is alive and well in Chicago is because NO ONE CHALLENGES IT! You chumps that lay down and roll over deserve everything you get. I for one will not stand for it, and if any of you accept corruption AT ANY LEVEL deserve to live in a cesspool. I cannot afford tp give up and move AND I shouldnt have to. This city belongs to all of us, not just the crooks and criminals and some of uds will not give up witbout a fight.....dumbasses....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's time to hire a sound consultant to conduct noise level readings and sue the City.
Join FAIR, file complaints online everytime you are harassed by the new runway noise and pollution.
8/09/2014 12:52:00 AM
How do you join FAIR? How would one go about getting the sound/airplane noise levels recorded by an expert? I am willing to pay for it and file a lawsuit.
This affects my sleep, health, property value and overall quality of life. We can't use our backyard anymore and the noise is making my family miserable.
FYI I live approximately seven miles from O'Hare and we never experienced this until the new runways opened in November 2013.
I can't move yet due to residency but will be gone in five years or less.
Really sick and tired of how miserable Chicago has become.
I have seen lawn signs protesting the new O'Hare noise, does anyone know where I can get one?
I called Alderman O'Connor's office to complain and was told this was done before she was elected and that there is nothing she can do to fix it.
Guess what, there is something my family can do and that is to vote you out.
Can a class action lawsuit be initiated against the individual airlines making the noise?
Reading the comments indicates that City Hall has there PR people commenting on this "insignificant" blog and attempting to mitigate a major electoral issue.
I have a strong feeling that voter backlash will be severe. Even apathetic people and machine regulars are pissed off by the noise and the complete disregard for the concerns of the citizens and the electorate.
Time will tell but this issue is festering and people are waking up to the realization that their voice means little to nothing to Chicago, Cook County and Illinois elected officials.
Anonymous said...
"Not that we have much sympathy for those complaining either - the airport has been there for decades. It's not like some big secret."
If you're complaining about the noise, next time fly out of Midway. You'll show them!
8/09/2014 12:11:00 AM
If this was a blog for city workers or fire fighters, there would be some sympathy. With police officers; you are on your own. Why is it the police hate each other? If I say the plan noise is suddenly very loud, then its my fault? Forget the fact that the city and Andolino lied to us about the new runways. At least those that are affected can fight for sound proofing, just like the residents west of Cumberland Ave and around Midway airport. In the mean time I will file to property tax appeal and reduce my taxes by 8-10% yearly. Do not hate everyone. The city is the enemy.
All the schools are being sound proofed outside of the sound zone, why?
If they are outside the sound zone and there is an acceptable noise level why are they being sound proofed?
Because the alleged sound zones are complete BS
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I see the FAiR people are stuffing the comments. Can't you guys just go back to Reddit?
8/09/2014 01:27:00 PM
I have made several comments on here about the noise and I am not a member of FAiR. This blog and this thread in particular has once again exposed an issue that is detrimentally affecting ten of thousands of Chicago residents and is largely being ignored by the MSM.
I can obviously see why City Hall and the "machine" fears SCC.
I will be joining FAiR and getting my neighbors to join too. It is obvious that they are also feared by City Hall or you spinmasters wouldn't be vigorously ripping them on here.
I have learned to believe and do the exact opposite of what any Chicago politician says.
Airport was there first. Planes fly in and it off airports. Planes make noise and release jet fumes. Some bought the house knowing this information. Same thing as buying a house next to the train tracks and complaining about the number of trains going by. Deal with it or move out.
The suburbs are laughing at us .
8/09/2014 03:13:00 PM
Yep. Park Ridge, Niles, Des Plaines, Bensenville, Franklin Park. All laughs.
The government only lies about and manipulates data on small things like runway noise, never the big important issues. Never those.
Don't be persuaded by the City Hall hacks posting on here. The fact is that everyone is UNITING behind this noise issue and they realize that costly litigation and a potential federal probe are inevitable.
To all those affected keep complaining, file those noise complaints, join FAIR, VOTE and UNITE!
City Hall can NOT trample upon a UNITED and organized electorate!
There are many intelligent minds that read this blog and post here, we all know that it is an election year and what we must all collectively do.
Coppers rent a studio apartment and keep a signed contract at all times!
Nothing in the City Ordinance and General Orders that state your family has to live in this City!
It states that the Officer and all City employees have to live in the city!
My wife has a house in the Suburbs and our kids went to Dupage County high Schools!
Hell of lot cheaper than sending your kids to St. Patricks High School or fill in the School name!
Its a little work, but in the long run well worth it! My District is next to the Expressway, and commute times are not bad! This City sucks!
Drawing a straight line from home to airport, I'm 8.5 miles away. Lucky me, I'm under a new flight path that brings 350+ airplanes per day over my home 24x7x365 since October 2013.
FAA recently lifted flight caps with their new radar system and flies them lower over city to save fuel, that's why more people are noticing that never did before.
Only thing that really pisses me off were the estimates of plane traffic given by the FAA. They stated before the expansion that there would be roughly 70 flights per day approaching over my area, where in reality it's closer to 250 - 300+ flights per day.
Ok. You can come down off your roof and stop counting planes. If this really pisses you off then do something besides whining. You and your neighbors should get together, form a group and protest the issue.
There's an election coming up. Do some research. It's one thing to post here that RAHM LIED! It's a totally different issue when you can back that up with copies of articles that quote Rahm and the airport authorities telling the public that "you won't even notice the increase of air traffic".
But this will never happen. The majority of comments on the issue here come from coppers and as we all know, you can't get 2 coppers to agree as to where to have lunch, let alone actually get off the lazy asses and actually DO SOMETHING.
Anonymous said...
All the schools are being sound proofed outside of the sound zone, why?
If they are outside the sound zone and there is an acceptable noise level why are they being sound proofed?
Because the alleged sound zones are complete BS
8/09/2014 07:14:00 PM
I asked the alderman the same question after they sound proofed a school .5 miles further from the airport than my house, and was told schools are held to a different threshold for sound proofing. Pile of shit.
To the poster that wants a yard sign, join fair-allocation-in-runways@google groups, or check the website at Fairchicago.org. You can also go to the ONCC website to request a Noise Monitor or call O'Hare Noise Compatibility Commission. There is a waiting period, but they will put you on a list. Go to the Fair website, it will tell you of meetings, etc., There is a demonstration planned at the ONCC meeting on September 5th, at 8 AM, at Depaul University, O'Hare, 8770 W. Bryn Mawr. I plan to be there.You can also sign a petition on the FAIR website. GET INVOLVED OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. If you think its bad now, wait till they open the new runway next year!
Anonymous said...
I called Alderman O'Connor's office to complain and was told this was done before she was elected and that there is nothing she can do to fix it.
Guess what, there is something my family can do and that is to vote you out.
8/09/2014 07:04:00 PM
Sternly tell O'Connor the same thing I told Arena's people, she's elected to solve community problems, not ignore them, or blame their predecessor. If she's incapable of working on solutions, she's no longer capable of being an Alderman of the 41st Ward because that's what the job entails.
To the poster that said the airport was there first, you really show your ignorance. It was first conceived in 1945, in 1955 commercial flights began using it, and by 1960, when the Kennedy expressway was built, was in full swing. Many of the neighborhoods on the Northwest side pre-date the airport, so you argument does not hold water. Also the areas that are now affected, some of which are 10 miles away, never had any airplane noise, or jets flying so low overhead. When quality of life becomes a factor, and people move out or rent to Section 8, you have a problem with neighborhood instability, which makes these areas less desirable and attracts less desirable residents. This affects crime, property values and everyone should be concerned.
FAiR Info for those asking:
Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/FairAllocationInRunways?fref=nf
Website:
http://www.fairchicago.org/
And for those technical savvy folks Twitter: https://twitter.com/FAiRChicago
Let's not bash a group, that's actually trying to unite and stand up for the common people.
Easy for all of you to say deal with it. In 93, when I moved near Midway, for 2 years I searched for a house which was not in a direct path. When they remodeled the airport. They lengthened a shorter runway which now has commercial jets taking off almost directly over my house. This has decreased my property value. I would have never bought this house if I knew this was going to change. Keep up your fight and complaints O'Hare people. No one fought here at
Midway that I know of.
Retired
41 is light years ahead of where it was when that do nothing doherty was in office. oconnor will win no problem.
people in that ward know that drunkard doherty sat on his ass when this airport expansion was proposed. voted for it by the way.
this was doherty's nad daley's going away present to the ward
Your money's been spent. The runways are here to stay.
Any guess what a 6' depth of concrete, 2 miles long costs when they city is paying a connected contractor?
Let's not bash a group, that's actually trying to unite and stand up for the common people.
The common people are insignificant.
- Illinois Politicians
I have a strong feeling that voter backlash will be severe.
"Voter backlash" hasn't been "severe" for anything since Bilandic got his ass kicked by Byrne.
If this is the issue that makes that a reality, then so be it.
I won't hold my breath.
So please don't blame people who live 10 miles from Ohare for "buying next to an airport." It's an ignorant response.
No it isn't. 10 miles is nothing when you're flying a fully-loaded commercial aircraft at 200+ mph.
Maybe they could cut their engines 10 miles out and glide in.
A recent research article listed the most corrupt states in the union. Of course, Illinois was a prominent entry.
https://homes.yahoo.com/photos/gallery-america-s-most-corrupt-states-1407469336-slideshow/
Here, great time-lapse aerial photos of exactly what happened to hundreds of homes and businesses in Bensenville for that new runway. Really sums it up.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/07/25/as-ohare-expanded-time-lapse-shows-demise-of-bensenville-neighborhood/
No home owners are to blame. The flight patterns have indeed dramatically changed -- I'm looking north from around North Avenue, and this summer's traffic is totally different from last summer's.
There are lots more aircraft right over Norwood Park now, and they are running parallel landing approaches in from the east, two and three aircraft at a time. Whereas they used to come straight down Lawrence Ave., now they are just about as heavy over the Kennedy too -- thus, the "stereo effect" people who live in between on Foster Ave. are noticing.
A lot of planes take off in the evening, towards the west, and then do a climbing turn, heading southeast towards and over Elmwood Park now, too.
See it all for yourself, live, right here.
http://www.flightradar24.com/41.96,-87.88/13
To the poster that wants a yard sign, join fair-allocation-in-runways@google groups, or check the website at Fairchicago.org. You can also go to the ONCC website to request a Noise Monitor or call O'Hare Noise Compatibility Commission. There is a waiting period, but they will put you on a list. Go to the Fair website, it will tell you of meetings, etc., There is a demonstration planned at the ONCC meeting on September 5th, at 8 AM, at Depaul University, O'Hare, 8770 W. Bryn Mawr. I plan to be there.You can also sign a petition on the FAIR website. GET INVOLVED OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. If you think its bad now, wait till they open the new runway next year!
You can have the monitoring done for your house,but it is for informational purposes only and doesnt affect anything the FAA is doing. It also has no effect on the home insulation and soundproofing program and you have to sign that you are financially responsible if the equipment on your property gets damaged.
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