A Rose by Any Other Name...
It's a quota. It's not a quota. It's a quota. It's not a quota.
- Three patrol officers are suing the Normal Police Department, saying the central Illinois town improperly disciplined them for failing to meet arrest quotas.
The Pantagraph in Bloomington reports the officers filed the lawsuit in McLean County Circuit Court. They say they were disciplined for not meeting a minimum number of arrests per month for traffic, criminal and ordinance violations.
Normal Police Chief Rick Bleichner and Normal City Manager Mark Peterson declined comment Wednesday. They said they haven't seen the lawsuit.
Earlier this year the police chief said the department has performance standards but it doesn't have quotas.
"Performance standards." "Index numbers." Even "VRI eligibility numbers." Creative words, but quotas in everything but the name. We aren't fans of not doing anything - there's plenty out there to keep everyone busy for a tour if you know how and where to look, but police work isn't always quantifiable the way number-crunches want it to be.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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The powers that be are desperately trying to overlay some corporate model over Policing so they can accomplish their goal of Police as armed revenue extractors.
If you don't bring in "activity" (Revenue) enough to meet your "index" you can be terminated.
The Alinskite Police...
Rahm's much desired 21st Century revenue extracting Brown Shirts to target and punish what's left of Chicago's formerly formidable middle class?
Who's going to be left to pay the freight when everyone who can flee does flee?
It sure as shit won't be the Catered To Constituents.
It sure as shit won't be the illegal immigrant Sanctuary City dwellers.
Although we would love to see what happens when Rahm fills Chicago with enough of them and have them "ethnic cleanse" the old constituency and become the new one...
Fuckery and Monetization crashing head on...
Money re-allocated from those who work to pay for those who don't.
These fuckers like Emanuel and Obama laugh up their sleeves at the series of bad jokes they're pulling on the "idiots" that voted them into office.
Picking and choosing who they want the winners and losers to be...
in the short form
though Not in your job description
you are to "enhance " revenue whenever possible not offense is too small.
write tickets bring revenue
"VRI eligibility numbers" are a quota!!
But the sheep will do it and not complain because VRI benefits them.
Now, reduce VRI to straight time and people will be complaining and asking where is FOP!
See the last one…
Sir Robert Peel’s Nine Principles
1. The basic mission for which the police exist is to prevent crime and disorder.
2. The ability of the police to perform their duties is dependent upon public approval of police actions.
3. Police must secure the willing co-operation of the public in voluntary observance of the law to be able to secure and maintain the respect of the public.
4. The degree of co-operation of the public that can be secured diminishes proportionately to the necessity of the use of physical force.
5. Police seek and preserve public favour not by catering to public opinion but by constantly demonstrating absolute impartial service to the law.
6. Police use physical force to the extent necessary to secure observance of the law or to restore order only when the exercise of persuasion, advice, and warning is found to be insufficient.
7. Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.
8. Police should always direct their action strictly towards their functions and never appear to usurp the powers of the judiciary.
9. The test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with it.
"Although we would love to see what happens when Rahm fills Chicago with enough of them and have them "ethnic cleanse" the old constituency and become the new one..."
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Rahm won't give a shit because he is a multimillionaire and will not be residing in this hell hole that he is helping to create.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"VRI eligibility numbers" are a quota!!
But the sheep will do it and not complain because VRI benefits them.
Now, reduce VRI to straight time and people will be complaining and asking where is FOP!
11/15/2014 05:00:00 AM
Every time we get a sergeant or higher who actually tries to get people to do something in their 8 hours in exchange for that $86,000 (now $91,000) salary that supervisor get lambasted and criticized and MF'd on the blog as sub human.
How than does the police department order, induce, cajole, inspire or otherwise get any work out of people on a daily basis? So that those employees will agree with it and cooperate and take orders etc.
Sir Robert Peel kicked ASS!
Sir Robert Peel’s Nine Principles
1. The basic mission for which the police exist is to prevent crime and disorder.
2. The ability of the police to perform their duties is dependent upon public approval of police actions.
3. Police must secure the willing co-operation of the public in voluntary observance of the law to be able to secure and maintain the respect of the public.
4. The degree of co-operation of the public that can be secured diminishes proportionately to the necessity of the use of physical force.
5. Police seek and preserve public favour not by catering to public opinion but by constantly demonstrating absolute impartial service to the law.
6. Police use physical force to the extent necessary to secure observance of the law or to restore order only when the exercise of persuasion, advice, and warning is found to be insufficient.
7. Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.
8. Police should always direct their action strictly towards their functions and never appear to usurp the powers of the judiciary.
9. The test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with it.
This is impossible in todays climate of the liberal cancer in this country and socialists/democrats/dirty politicians who cater to illegals and criminals....
I was a Sgt for 17 yrs. before I retired. When I was first promoted, our district Desk Sgt was on the medical during the efficiency card rating period, so the WC passed all of the desk and lockup peoples cards around to the street Sgts for evaluations.
How do you rate your best street coppers with tons of activity vs. inside coppers with zero activity? I figured zero activity warranted low grades. WOW, did I open a can of worms!
Years later as a Desk Sgt. at an Area HQ, I learned that the Desk Sgts. (and PO's) spots are harder than any other assignment I'd ever worked.
Bottom line is you CANNOT compare or quantify the work of all officers through the same formula.
COMPSTAT is a quota monster.
VRI numbers requirement is a qouta! I have 28 years, majority in districts, I'm going to grieve requirements, because I'm inside now and can't get the quota numbers. Is it a qouta system and will I prevail? Can anybody answer?
I remember a rally with Jane in attendance when a now retired great boss stated that he didn't believe it was worth talking nice to the citizens at meetings during the day when later that night he would be locking them up for something anyway,
She nodded in agreement..
I have always been a proponent of equating crime/ traffic crashes that occurs during a tour with the activity level one would expect from on-duty personnel.
In other words: no crime/crashes.......no activity.....our mere presence is activity enough if crime/crashes were prevented
Its a quota alright.
We are seeing it in all districts.
Look at 001 and 014 and 019 and 018 and 020 and 024 with everyone tripping over themselves to do street cleaning or rush hour. And then they whine about Revenue mouthbreathers 'saturating an area" when they can't get their holy grail parkers.
I havn't written a parker in years.
If feel the need to pull someone over...say Stop Sign Failure to yield...I'll write the state charge (fuck giving the city revenue) and only then will I do a Contact Card.
Oh yeah...I live in 016 and saw our favorite bike ticket writer out there on Monday.
Let's not forget that Sir Robert Peel's police officer rules weren't perfect.
He expected officers to work 7 DAYS A WEEK.
He expected his officers not to stop and hold conversations with the public, politicians, or women.
He expected his officers to be in uniform at ALL TIMES, and to simply wear an armband which, by its position, would indicate whether the officer was off duty or on.
Would anyone here want to work under those conditions?
Surely all of the coppers here aren't so dumb and blind as to not see that the money generated into the city by ANOVS and other such local ordinance violations benefits the hordes of city workers?
After all, that VRI money doesn't grow on trees.
And we are all aware of someone in every district/unit who has become the 'time and a half whore.'
It cuts both ways. If you're out there on a daily basis and observe on adverse conditions that warrant a ticket or two, then something's wrong with you. But not to worry...you'll be the first one here blasting the job because, somehow, YOU got passed over for a merit promotion!
Off Topic.
Can someone from 008 chime in and let those of us who care if LT JA has returned from medical?
I only focus on getting my V.R.I. numbers [quotas] and that's it!
Once that is accomplished!
I shut down for the rest of the month! No Tickets and no anything! Give them what they want and not an inch more!
Fuck you! Rahm and McDrunk!
Anonymous said...
VRI numbers requirement is a qouta! I have 28 years, majority in districts, I'm going to grieve requirements, because I'm inside now and can't get the quota numbers. Is it a qouta system and will I prevail? Can anybody answer?
11/15/2014 02:45:00 PM
You have 28 years on and you still don't know? If you were considering making overtime at all why did you choose to work the desk? How did you think you were going to get overtime on the desk? You get perks for working the desk so quit your bitching. Why don't you sign up for park district? Cta? Cha? You want the time and a half? Well that requires some effort. The requirements are a joke anyway. And other desk officers don't seem to have a problem getting vri. Why do you? You are the example of why we as blue shirts will continue to stand apart and lose to city hall.
If you don't bring in "activity" (Revenue) enough to meet your "index" you can be terminated.
Fuck tickets and revenue. What about the dogs, and they are legion, who won't get out of the car to save themselves, or you! We have nothing but dogs in my district and I do not despise them because they are not four wheeled cash registers, I despise them because they are dogs.
It's a COLLEGE TOWN - ISU and it's sinking dorms are there...
How can you NOT write a gazillion tickets for *something* every day?
Those who always cry about quotas are constantly doing substandard work.
Anonymous said...
If you don't bring in "activity" (Revenue) enough to meet your "index" you can be terminated.
"Fuck tickets and revenue. What about the dogs, and they are legion, who won't get out of the car to save themselves, or you! We have nothing but dogs in my district and I do not despise them because they are not four wheeled cash registers, I despise them because they are dogs."
11/16/2014 02:02:00 AM
...This Officer has a clue.
Handle your beat...
Take your assignments...
FYI... Cars in busy sectors get beat on... A LOT!
When manpower was up to snuff at the district level years ago, there were rapid response cars/teams that were able to take up the slack so the dispatchers didn't have to continually pound on the cars that took care of business...
Coppers are their own worst enemy sometimes and here's an example why...
We LOVED being able to see the pending board and being able to manage our own work flow.
Some guys used the pending board to duck jobs.
OEMC COULD have blocked the pending board from the dodgers by putting a "tickler" on their log-on...
But that would've made too much sense so we lost a valuable job and time management tool.
The funny thing was that some of the dispatchers cried and complained about some of us "taking control" so losing the pending board made the dispatchers feel "in charge" again which was a key component of civilianizing Police dispatch.
A clear board gave us time to actively hunt and Police assholes who desperately needed Policing...
Current OEMC policy and lack of staffing at the district level results in coppers running from call to call.
The Police NEED to be free to hunt.
On-viewing shit is fine but it was satisfying like a mofo
to hunt bad m/fers on your beat and bad m/fers KNEW the "uniforms" were hunting them.
"Yeah squad... Going in with a half ton o' assholes, we'll call you when we get in."
It was nothing unusual to catch up with named offenders on several case reports and signed complaints some days and weeks after the offense.
Repeat as needed and over time and your beat is less of a headache.
Wonder if these "smart" motherfuckers from New Yuck ever bothered to ask any of us "old, wild-assed, dumb, racist and brutal" street cops what the fuck time it was before instituting their fucked-up corporate style bean-counterism/crime stat jiggering to "change" CPD?
Morons...
It ain't the Coppers so much as your fucked-up majority end users of Police services.
THEY need fixing.
"STFU Gramps! We don't need to hear it!"
Anonymous said...
If you don't bring in "activity" (Revenue) enough to meet your "index" you can be terminated.
Fuck tickets and revenue. What about the dogs, and they are legion, who won't get out of the car to save themselves, or you! We have nothing but dogs in my district and I do not despise them because they are not four wheeled cash registers, I despise them because they are dogs.
It's hard for the dogs to write tickets. They don't have opposable thumbs. They can't hold a pen in their paws.
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