Number Games
You have to love when they hide the crime numbers in the bottom paragraphs of an article about body cameras:
- Meanwhile, McCarthy said that heading into the last month of the year, homicides in Chicago are on pace to be the lowest since the 1960s, down 3 percent from a year earlier. But shootings remain considerably higher than last year, according to police statistics released Monday.
The number of homicides has fallen to 369 through the first 11 months of 2014, 13 fewer than a year earlier and the lowest figure since 1965, according to the department. But last month, despite being the eighth-coldest November on record for Chicago, homicides rose to 38, from 29 a year earlier.
Despite the overall drop in homicides, shootings continued to rise. Through the first 11 months of this year, Chicago has seen 1,885 shooting incidents, 172 more than a year earlier, about a 10 percent increase. For November there were 138 shooting incidents, 26 more than a year earlier or a 23 percent jump.
No mention of November being the fourth month in a row of homicide increases over the same time as last year. There might be enough "death investigations" to put Chicago over the 400 mark for the year, but they won't see the light of day until well after the back-patting ends and the media focuses on some other nonsense.
Labels: stats
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
48 Comments:
what happened at 43rd and Michigan, a Deputy get shot at
2013 there were 382 homicides through November.
2014 we're at 369.
Maybe in 2015 we could knock it down to 360! Wow! This city is really going places!
SCC, please post this............
To Commander Kevin Ryan....go shove your OCD Christmas Party tickets up your @ss. You treat every person below you like absolute trash and then you expect them to come up with $85 for a ticket during the holiday season. Screw you. I'd rather see my guys spend that money on an extra gift for the family, rather than buy a ticket to go watch all of your kiss-ass inside people bow at your feet and kiss the ring. You are the most arrogant, condescending jerk we've ever worked for on this job. Why don't you just have all of your inside people each buy a few extra tickets. And why the hell does your unit of 300 PO's have 40 or so inside people in the first place?? That list of your "inside" straight days / weekends off mutts seems to grow in numbers by the day, while the few remaining workers on the street get shit on and bitched at for everything under the sun. Actually none of this suprises me one bit, I've watched your phony ass rise through the ranks by crapping on everyone below you and ass-kissing each of your superiors up the ladder. Thank god I don't have much time left on this job and won't have to deal with you much longer. -Sgt. You Know Who
Sorry guys but we all know the game.. It's not about shootings to the public and media it's about homicides. Doesn't matter if himicides are up four months in a row or not.. What we do know is for the year they are down all together. Final tally will be in the 390s making it the least amount of homicides in decades... Cry all you want but you guys here always say that numbers and stats are crap... Except it seems when you guys want to quote them... Or try to add more by speculating about death investigations... Face it, homicides are down. Accept it and move on. I know u all love chalky and want the city to self destruct but not this year... For those that still work congrats, you should be proud that homicides are this low. To the dogs here... Too bad. Go complain about anything/everything
So VRI is a complete waste of taxpayer money ??
Rahm you have some explainin to do !!
They are masters of the spin. Too bad they can't solve crimes.
Mcballsniffer has got to be the most insignificant superintendent this department has ever had.
In the early 70's when the Paramedic program started,the sudden drop in heroin deaths was,by the Police propaganda machine attributed to better law enforcement also known as wer'e winning the war against drugs! THe drop in heroin overdose deaths was actually done by the administration of the drug narcan!Due to better emergency medical services in and outside the emergency rooms and trauma units,the survivability of gunshot and stabbing victims etc.has gone way up.So,as usual,the whole story isn't told by the pandering politicians in a election year.Figures lie and liars figure!Nice try GARY!
You've got to give credit to CFD. They're the ones saving the lives of shooting victims. Thus, less homicides.
Can't wait for the "decrease in the increase" ribbon.
They spin the numbers in every direction until they get the result they want. If a comparison from 2014 to 1965 isn't good then they will find some other year and say "see, Chicago's crime rate is lowest in 75 years". The only thing that matters is the initial headline. But dig a little deeper and you will find something smells fishy.
Also, a basic education on statistic and probability can help. But most don't have that training and education. So the politicians and bureaucrats will take advantage of that.
WOW! Now think what will happen when they clip on a body camera!! Tac better get them too!
Chicago had 3.5 million residents in the 1960's compared to 2.7 million in 2010. Not to mention the change in the white population.
http://chicagohealth77.org/characteristics/demographics/
"Michael Brown was killed on August 9 in Ferguson, Mo. From that day until Nov. 24, when it was announced the grand jury would not indict Officer Darren Wilson for the shooting, the network evening news programs covered the incident 92 times.
On the other hand, between Aug. 9 and Nov. 24, there were 855 reported shootings in Chicago, 130 of them fatal. Total Windy City homicides since Brown’s death are at least 155.
In all that time, analysis of broadcast transcripts shows, the network evening news programs mentioned Chicago violence just four times, and it was central to only two of those stories. That’s an incredible disparity in coverage – 23 times more for 129 fewer victims."
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-philbin/2014/12/03/nets-cover-mike-brown-death-23x-more-130-killed-chicago
to 12/03, 2:20 am....
retired now, never worked in OCD, but....you hit a home run in your post.....
Kudos to Sgt. you-know-who!
homicides down, but shootings up?....so, if some (or a few) of those shot actually died, then what?
meaning, if you get killed, it's a big deal; if you get shot but survive, then who cares.....
Does anybody take into account how EMS and hospitals have improved procedures to save shooting victims in the last 10-15 years? I'd love to see a story printed about that!!
Counting murders is a way of hiding the fact that no-gooders are still committing crimes, i.e. SHOOTINGS.
Medical advances has kept many shooting victims alive hence the decline.
Tell it like it is.
Hey SCC - Some count homicides and others count murders. If one counts homicides, where one person kills another, we're at 414 vs 2013's 415. We're on pace to match last year's total and will come in around the long term average (past 15 years) of 450 per year.
More important indicator of the level of violence is the total number of people shot, which is way up this year and we're pacing towards 2,500. That would be about 400 more than last year.
More Lead, Same Dead.
US Atty Gen will institute new racial profiling standards
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/12/01/Holder-Says-Robust-Anti-Racial-Profiling-Guidelines-Imminent-We-Must-Seize-This-Unique-Opportunity-Ferguson-Presents
Will we get another Crime Reduction Ribbon?????
Obama also acknowledged the difficult jobs police officers have. He quoted Holder, who once said that "police officers have the right to come home."
This is like Houdini math at work. Make the bad stuff disappear and make good stuff appear right before your very eyes. Houdini was a master of illusion. All crime is down. Even David Copperfield can’t hold a candle to 35th Street’s tricks. Copperfield can make jet planes disappear while 35th St. can make homicide bodies disappear off the books through re-classifications. Abra cadabra and poof, the statistics illustrate crime is down with bar graphs, pie charts and lots of fluff. Mathamagic at work I tell you.
OT: A New York City grand jury on Wednesday returned no indictment against a white police officer who used a chokehold on Eric Garner, an unarmed black man, while arresting him for illegally selling cigarettes, local media reported.
One Monday December 1st Chicago Police Superintendent McCarthy touted a drop in homicides as proof that his violence reducing strategies are working. Taking a closer look at the numbers suggests that he is selectively using statistics to portray a false picture.
The number of homicides through November are indeed down 13 from the same period in 2013 to 369 or about a 3.65% drop. The number of shooting over the same period has risen 172 to 1885, a 10% increase.
How do we reconcile the discrepancy between a rise in shootings yet a drop in homicides? It isn't classified as a homicide until the victim dies. What is really happening here is the Chicago Fire Department paramedics and trauma surgeons are getting much better at keeping shooting victims alive due to the vast amount of experience they are gaining.
Rather than tout selective statistics shouldn't Superintendent McCarthy be praising the paramedics and trauma surgeons?
Maybe what Chicago needs are more police officers to reduce violent crime as opposed to a statistician in charge of the police department.
Anonymous said...
Sorry guys but we all know the game.. It's not about shootings to the public and media it's about homicides. Doesn't matter if himicides are up four months in a row or not.. What we do know is for the year they are down all together. Final tally will be in the 390s making it the least amount of homicides in decades... Cry all you want but you guys here always say that numbers and stats are crap... Except it seems when you guys want to quote them... Or try to add more by speculating about death investigations... Face it, homicides are down. Accept it and move on. I know u all love chalky and want the city to self destruct but not this year... For those that still work congrats, you should be proud that homicides are this low. To the dogs here... Too bad. Go complain about anything/everything
12/03/2014 02:47:00 AM
LOL!
Who the fuck is THIS?
One of those too smart and too cute
New Yuck law enforcement gypsies or one of the
home grown suckasses?
Nice try...
You m/fers can shake, bake and cook the HOMICIDE
stats (Oh wait... You dishonorable m/fers changed the meanings and definitions of key words and phrases in Chicago Police lexicon.) but you fuckers are ass out and in the cold with a shit clearance rate because you destroyed Investigative Services and those "Lowest since 196?..." numbers you incompetents tout are full of shit.
Really?
"Lowest since 196?"
Soooo...
Chicago has roughly 750k fewer souls and you clowns want to claim similar raw numbers from some 50 years ago?
Sell that crazy shit somewhere else ya stooges.
Sorry guys but we all know the game.. It's not about shootings to the public and media it's about homicides. Doesn't matter if himicides are up four months in a row or not.. What we do know is for the year they are down all together. Final tally will be in the 390s making it the least amount of homicides in decades... Cry all you want but you guys here always say that numbers and stats are crap... Except it seems when you guys want to quote them... Or try to add more by speculating about death investigations... Face it, homicides are down. Accept it and move on. I know u all love chalky and want the city to self destruct but not this year... For those that still work congrats, you should be proud that homicides are this low. To the dogs here... Too bad. Go complain about anything/everything
OK boss you forgot about the polar vortex that kept everyone inside. Now go someone's ads you mush.
Ya got to love great writers. Call it like it is. https://medium.com/@TraceyHalvorsen/baltimore-city-youre-breaking-my-heart-1873a505ce2a
I’m tired of answering the question, “Is Baltimore really like The Wire?” Answer: “Yeah it’s a complete shit-hole war zone depending on what street you turn down”.
Demographics are destiny. Western man - tick, tock...it's time.
Please start a topic about the FOP and MLA nullifying parts of the ratified contract that was voted in to pass by a majority of the membership. The section about time due and baby furloughs not being by management descretion anymore but by seniority.
SCC, please post this............
To Commander Kevin Ryan....go shove your OCD Christmas Party tickets up your @ss. You treat every person below you like absolute trash and then you expect them to come up with $85 for a ticket during the holiday season. Screw you. I'd rather see my guys spend that money on an extra gift for the family, rather than buy a ticket to go watch all of your kiss-ass inside people bow at your feet and kiss the ring. You are the most arrogant, condescending jerk we've ever worked for on this job. Why don't you just have all of your inside people each buy a few extra tickets. And why the hell does your unit of 300 PO's have 40 or so inside people in the first place?? That list of your "inside" straight days / weekends off mutts seems to grow in numbers by the day, while the few remaining workers on the street get shit on and bitched at for everything under the sun. Actually none of this suprises me one bit, I've watched your phony ass rise through the ranks by crapping on everyone below you and ass-kissing each of your superiors up the ladder. Thank god I don't have much time left on this job and won't have to deal with you much longer. -Sgt. You Know Who
12/03/2014 02:20:00 AM
**************************
give me a break you cry baby. Gee, sounds like you got a real bone to pick with the commander. Nice try with your a "sgt" story who is almost done. Im sure you're some kid with 5 minutes on the job who is another one of the entitled chosen ones who is too cool for everything and anyone. You have the classic im cooler than the other side of the pillow attitude that comes with being assigned to a unit. Let me guess, you wouldn't even go to the Christmas party even if it was free.... why?? because you're too cool for it. You have the attitude that all other cops must bow before you because you are the coolest out there. get over yourself. Learn when to shut up JR and go the party, have a good time and move on.. well, im sure it wouldn't be too good of a time because you really seem like the type of guy who nobody would want to talk to and interact with.. hmmmmmm, maybe that's your problem. Nobody likes you? Are you the black sheep of the Organized Crime Division that people cant stand? Sounds like it. You call someone else arrogant and condescending???? Have you read your post yet superkid? give me a break. Im sure your commander is the way you say, hell which commanders aren't like that but get over yourself with the im not going to the Christmas party because its 85 dollars crap. face it, you're cheap.. nobody likes you and you are one of the new generation cool kids on this job who think that anything police related is beneath you... except for when its convenient for you to tell people how bad you are because your a cop.. fkn dildo!!!
To Sgt You Know Who,
Please please stop your bytching!
If you are in OCD than your an @ss kisser too or you would not have a team.
Whats wrong? Those 2 hr lunches are not lone enuff, please...you guys only work 2 hrs a day, so shut up and buy those damn xmas tickets before you and your whole team get sent back to patrol where you would not last a week!
To Sgt. You Know Who
Well you can suck up all the overtime and take time due anytime up you need. But when it comes time to buy a ticket to help celebrate Christmas and more importantly help honor the retirees, you cant seem to muster the class to function as a leader, instead you hide on the blog like the piece of shit you really are.
With everyone hating on the police at higher than normal levels, it's time to let the public fend for themselves.
Here's your report, have a nice day.
Boo fucking hoo you had to buy a ticket for your clout unit. clout person problems.
Mcballsniffer has got to be the most insignificant superintendent this department has ever had.
12/03/2014 07:01:00 AM
He'll be gone when one-term Rham closes the door of his 5th floor office
This article is a must read in the NY Post.
The author explains how race bating politicians continue to defend the scourge of society while blaming the cops for all of societies ills.
http://nypost.com/2014/12/03/best-of-times-lost-in-space/
Anonymous said...
Kudos to Sgt. you-know-who!
12/03/2014 10:27:00 AM
Hey I work at GED 40 Inside people?
Like to know where. I count 6 at Homan Sq? Area you counting the School Teams? When do you suggest they work, 1st Watch and weekends?
SCC, please post this............
To Commander Kevin Ryan....go shove your OCD Christmas Party tickets up your @ss. You treat every person below you like absolute trash and then you expect them to come up with $85 for a ticket during the holiday season. Screw you. I'd rather see my guys spend that money on an extra gift for the family, rather than buy a ticket to go watch all of your kiss-ass inside people bow at your feet and kiss the ring. You are the most arrogant, condescending jerk we've ever worked for on this job. Why don't you just have all of your inside people each buy a few extra tickets. And why the hell does your unit of 300 PO's have 40 or so inside people in the first place?? That list of your "inside" straight days / weekends off mutts seems to grow in numbers by the day, while the few remaining workers on the street get shit on and bitched at for everything under the sun. Actually none of this suprises me one bit, I've watched your phony ass rise through the ranks by crapping on everyone below you and ass-kissing each of your superiors up the ladder. Thank god I don't have much time left on this job and won't have to deal with you much longer. -Sgt. You Know Who
12/03/2014 02:20:00 AM
He was the biggest jag-off when he took over TRU. He is a big bullshitter. He talks like he was a big SOS guy when in reality he worked the SOS wagon and was called after everything was over to transport and paper jump. (I'm not taking about the thieving SOS I mean the real SOS)
In TRU he thought just because he was the highest ranking guy in the room them made him the funniest, toughest, best looking and smartest. He used to talk smack about a PO that was a UFC fighter saying he could take him by kicking him in the knee. Must have learned that from the movie Roadhouse.
He sold out TRU when the new Supe was looking to return 1000 officers back to the street for Rahm. He served up 200 hard working coppers to the Supe on a silver platter. He should have been demoted. Good to see Jim Rouselle back (or as he and Georgas called him "the general").
Kevin Ryan.....GFY
-former 253
Anonymous Lou said...
One Monday December 1st Chicago Police Superintendent McCarthy touted a drop in homicides as proof that his violence reducing strategies are working. Taking a closer look at the numbers suggests that he is selectively using statistics to portray a false picture.
Why do you blame the Supt. Blame the ass kissers that sold us out. The Exempts.
Sgt. You Know Who,
Please don't talk about the Fifth Floor Paper Queen like that. The unit can't run without her. at least that's what she tells everybody.
The "game" is over.
F-it. I/we win, the city loses. My city, not where I live though.
I have met the Crime Fighters. I know who you are.
It's okay Office, give in.
That is what 'they want', this is what they will get.
FOOLS!
Signed, a TRUE city kid and a TRUE Chicago copper.
Last year and this year 100 million in overtime to keep these gangbanging welfare abusers safe from themselves. They just keep sucking society dry of all it's resources and no one gives a fuck.
No one sees that they're animals and can't be tamed to blend in with the rest of society.
SCC, please post this............
To Commander Kevin Ryan....go shove your OCD Christmas Party tickets up your @ss. You treat every person below you like absolute trash and then you expect them to come up with $85 for a ticket during the holiday season. Screw you. I'd rather see my guys spend that money on an extra gift for the family, rather than buy a ticket to go watch all of your kiss-ass inside people bow at your feet and kiss the ring. You are the most arrogant, condescending jerk we've ever worked for on this job. Why don't you just have all of your inside people each buy a few extra tickets. And why the hell does your unit of 300 PO's have 40 or so inside people in the first place?? That list of your "inside" straight days / weekends off mutts seems to grow in numbers by the day, while the few remaining workers on the street get shit on and bitched at for everything under the sun. Actually none of this suprises me one bit, I've watched your phony ass rise through the ranks by crapping on everyone below you and ass-kissing each of your superiors up the ladder. Thank god I don't have much time left on this job and won't have to deal with you much longer. -Sgt. You Know Who
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I know exactly who you are.... You are a cancer to area central... All day, all night all you do is complain about the bosses, the commander and you've been crying about this Christmas party for weeks. You're right sarge we can't wait till you leave either. Real tough talk.. When the commander is around you stroke him then as soon as he's gone you mf him. We are tired of you. Just leave already... You've talked about it for years get it over with and get that better job your always bragging about
The recent verdict in NYC makes Obama's body camera plan meaningless and a flop with the people.
Hey Garry what about the consistent drop in homicides every year before you got here. Are you taking credit for that too.Look at the stats they are all on line.
The better question is what did you do that caused the rate to jump in your first year on the job? You disbanded units that patrolled those area in the city. Why because those officers "have no connections to the areas they work in". Now we have coppers working their day off at time and half to patrol areas that they "have no connection to"
This isn't about your right to work VRI it's about poor policy
Anonymous said...
"...Face it, homicides are down. Accept it and move on. I know u all love chalky and want the city to self destruct but not this year... For those that still work congrats, you should be proud that homicides are this low. To the dogs here... Too bad. Go complain about anything/everything"
12/03/2014 02:47:00 AM
Ok boss...
You brag and shit-talk about crime being down.
Funny...
You aren't bragging, shit-talking and tongue wagging about the number of offenders behind bars for this "low number" of vicious homicides.
Why not, boss?
Don't you have good news to share with us dumb-assed Blue Shirts and the wool pulled over their eyes public?
Or is this just another object illustration of you incompetents at 3510 S. Michigan Av. cherry-motherfucking-picking the stats?
Plausible constants (the un-fucked with real
and raw numbers) rubbed against bullshit variables = a bullshit product (the snatched out of your ass "lowest since Marquette & Jolliet paddled through nearly 350 years ago" numbers) that you keep touting.
Give it up.
People are on to you.
To Commander Kevin Ryan....go shove your OCD Christmas Party tickets up your @ss. You treat every person below you like absolute trash and then you expect them to come up with $85 for a ticket during the holiday season. Screw you. I'd rather see my guys spend that money on an extra gift for the family, rather than buy a ticket to go watch all of your kiss-ass inside people bow at your feet and kiss the ring. You are the most arrogant, condescending jerk we've ever worked for on this job. Why don't you just have all of your inside people each buy a few extra tickets. And why the hell does your unit of 300 PO's have 40 or so inside people in the first place?? That list of your "inside" straight days / weekends off mutts seems to grow in numbers by the day, while the few remaining workers on the street get shit on and bitched at for everything under the sun. Actually none of this suprises me one bit, I've watched your phony ass rise through the ranks by crapping on everyone below you and ass-kissing each of your superiors up the ladder. Thank god I don't have much time left on this job and won't have to deal with you much longer. -Sgt. You Know Who
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I know exactly who you are.... You are a cancer to area central... All day, all night all you do is complain about the bosses, the commander and you've been crying about this Christmas party for weeks. You're right sarge we can't wait till you leave either. Real tough talk.. When the commander is around you stroke him then as soon as he's gone you mf him. We are tired of you. Just leave already... You've talked about it for years get it over with and get that better job your always bragging about
**********************
hahahahahah to the second poster. I know EXACTLY who you are talking about! The male diva of unit 311. Grumpy, miserable and does nothing except complain about the commander, bosses etc but when the boss is around he acts like they are best friends. And yeah, he doesnt hide his hatred for the christmas party and will go off on a tangent about it for 20 minutes.. we would be lucky if that left/retired early
Post a Comment
<< Home