Welcome to the New World
- Before a new Republican governor can take office in the state, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel called a hastily-assembled "emergency session" and passed a city ordinance raising the minimum wage.
As Chicago sits on the edge of bankruptcy, Mayor Emanuel was desperate to beat the state legislature to a raise of the wage. His measure raised it from $8.25 an hour to $10 by next July and as high as $13 by 2019, a nearly five-dollar-per-hour hike.
A few lonely voices in the city council—the measure easily passed 44-5—are saying that in a state that is already losing population and businesses to other states, a minimum wage hike will drive out even more small businesses.
- A restaurant owner in China is opting to save on employee wages by foregoing traditional servers and using robots instead.
The eatery, located in a shopping mall in Ningbo, a city in China's northeastern Zhejiang province, has become a big tourist draw with its futuristic waitstaff.
Each robot costs over $9,400 but owner Lu Dike insists that he is still saving money over the long term, reports the Daily Mail.
No sick days, no calling off at the last moment, no wage demands at all and they don't need Obamacare. They're electric and don't produce carbon-dioxide, so the green crowd has to support them. Plus, you don't have to tip them. What's not to like?
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
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The people demand a living wage. Try and raise a family of four on $10.00 per hour. Let the multi millionaire CEOs take a pay cut, and let the wealthy corporations spend some of their ill gotten gain on their poorest employees. Workers raise and demand your just dues.
Not bad....a 20% increase for flipping burgers. How much of a raise did you guys get for putting your life on the line every day?
The cost will just be passed onto the consumer and business will decrease.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2841427/Robo-cops-patrol-Silicon-Valley-gets-five-foot-tall-robot-security-guards.
Just think of how much the city would save if we all worked for minimum wage, and paid for our own health insurance. If it's good enough for other people, it should be good enough for us.
Let's see, $13 an hour, take out taxes....HOLY SHIT, those minimum wage assholes will be rolling in the money!
I guess I will be buying my fast food out of the city also. The municipality and towns next to us don't pay such high wedges. Hamburgers, hot dogs and oil changes will be more affordable in Skokie or Oak Lawn.
Great job Mr Mayor and Alderman.
What do you think red light and speed cameras are to the police ?
I hear that the new cars are equipped with transponders for tax by the mile and by the conjestion zone. Car to car communication will allow government vehicles to remotely disable a fleeing or tax evading vehicle.
First they hired traffic aids to relieve us of traffic direction duties, then parking ticket writers. ....do you see where this is going ? The only part of our job that can't be handled by a clerk/social worker is the hands on stuff that they don't want us doing anymore.
Spend your retro wisely.
what makes you think that your job wont be the next "low hanging fruit" on the automation/job elimination scale?
It's already started with the cams.
Hmmmmm.... robot servers? What head tax would be put on them by the City in order to create some type of revenue stream? Or, more accurately - "revenue stream replacement" money.
That is the problem in this state. No matter what, the first thing from the politicians is - how do we tax this situation?
If robots get popular, I can just see Rahm or some other political hack saying:
You can buy the robot and replace a worker, but for each unit you need to pay a "minimum-wage worker displacement tax" for $1,000."
Make that $1,000 the first year and $1,000 a year after that -
that way we get some revenues out of your business since the payroll taxes would disappear.
The owner keeps on getting hammered by higher costs and makes less money. At a point, he or she realizes - HEY, I am not making any money, I might as well shut down here.
Great for the local economy!!
Can you say circling the drain?
I knew you could.
When the last middle class taxpayer leaves Chicago, who will pay for the police pensions?
They kinda look like Rosie from "The Jetsons".
The asshole politicians chose death for Chicago instead of losing their next election. We are The Roman Empire revisited.
Robots will never work in McDonald's the Chicago ghettos. They would easlily be vandalized or stolen.
I can see the GD's stealing the robots and using them to sling dope on the corner of 79th and Halsted. HA!
I like the robots. >Bleep.< Guess who's next?
More customers stay out of banks to put money in
"When it comes to making deposits, consumers have left bank tellers in droves, according to a recent report by Novantas Research.
"The percentage of consumers preferring to make deposits with a teller has fallen to 34 percent in 2014 from 54 percent in 2012, partly reflecting investments that banks have made in technology, including improved ATMs and the ability to deposit checks by taking photos of them with smartphones..."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-dwindling-tellers-notebook-1207-biz--2-20141205-story.html
...and quite possibly "partly reflecting" all the "Know Your Customer," "anti-money-laundering" bullshit that has some of them treating an old guy who needs a $50 money order like a criminal.
Considering the multi-billion-dollar fines levied against the "too big to fail" boys for collapsing the economy with "ninja mortgages," manipulation of foreign currencies, etc., the guy with the "I have a gun" note is small potatoes compared to what goes on in the corner office. FDIC nothing; you need RICO in there.
Now, if we could get pharmacy robots to quickly, accurately just fill the doctor's prescription and stop playing junior detective and STFU about "wellness..."
">kaching< Thank you sir. Come again. >bleep<."
The people demand a living wage. Try and raise a family of four on $10.00 per hour. Let the multi millionaire CEOs take a pay cut, and let the wealthy corporations spend some of their ill gotten gain on their poorest employees. Workers raise and demand your just dues.
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How about don't have kids you can't afford? If you want to have a family, better your situation so you can provide for them? Work hard, get an education, increase your value in the marketplace? Don't rely on the government and your meager skill set to give your kids everything they need to succeed.
"Car to car communication will allow government vehicles to remotely disable a fleeing or tax evading vehicle."
12/08/2014 01:51:00 AM
A retrofit to the OEMC vehicles with the funny antennas that are reportedly disrupting cell phone communications at the "protests."
Of course, it won't do a thing for the old beater doing 60 up the sidewalk on Irving Park Road with the gal in the backseat clawing at the driver's eyes and shrieking, "STOP, MIGUEL, OR THEY KEEL US!" God, don't you wish.
This country is becoming a living hell.
More "new world" --
Even a "licensed clinical social worker" can report a NY state gun owner as being a "clear and present danger."
...and zero accountability. "The new law specifically provides that if a mental health professional uses “reasonable professional judgment” and “good faith” when making a determination, this decision cannot be the basis for any civil or criminal liability on the part of that professional. "
They have over 37,000 people on the "confidential list" already...
http://programs.governor.ny.gov/nysafeact/mental-health-faq
It's not the job of government to intervene in private business. Employment is an at-will contract. Don't like it, go elsewhere. NEVER was minimum wage jobs ever intended to be the standard to raise a family. Ugh. If you or these fast food employees are that star-spangled banner awesome, then why don't you find employment that suits your incredible talent. You're just a bunch of entitlement babies demanding others provide for you. Want something? EARN IT. We are NOT all equal. Some people deserve more pay. It's called LIFE.
These jobs were never meant to support a family. They're starter jobs. Work hard and get promoted. Learn skills and move on. Democrats are lost.
That being said---nice hoots on those robots.
Thanks Dean....yloir antics just made our measly raise worth even less. All this to get junior promoted? Why couldn't you get us a 1.75 an hour raise.
Oh, oh --
Report: robots could eliminate need for most lawyers
December 06, 2014
"A new report looks at the state of the legal profession in 2030, and it doesn't look too pretty as far as employment is concerned, io9 reports.
"It is no longer unrealistic to consider that workplace robots and their AI processing systems could reach the point of general production by 2030," the report, by Jomati Consultants, says.
"And those robots could eventually "do the work of a dozen low-level associates. They would not get tired. They would not seek advancement (or) pay rises." A firm's upper echelons would still be populated by actual human lawyers, but the need for associates would shrink dramatically..."
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/12/06/report-robots-could-eliminate-need-for-most-lawyers/
Of course, savings would be pocketed as additional profit, not passed along to clients...
Make the government take care of you, The Democratic way! They will have a nice warm bed for you in the FEMA camp. If you think I am Joking, just wait. A few hundred protesters cause all this trouble and it is still growing. When the economy crashes Look Out!
Next they will be demanding a "living real good" wage
How about don't have kids you can't afford? If you want to have a family, better your situation so you can provide for them? Work hard, get an education, increase your value in the marketplace? Don't rely on the government and your meager skill set to give your kids everything they need to succeed.
Surely you jest!
My question is this. Will all these low paid employees who are receiving Link cards, section 8 and medical cards get to keep those entitlements and the tax credits for all their children. If they don't , then our taxes should go down. If they do , then in reality they'll be making more then a lot of middle class families.
Seems like a Socialist has discovered the blog? Mickey D's was a part time high school student's job, not a career.
This as only done so one of Rahms campaign commercials would be correct. Since he really had very little to do with the coal plant closings.
The commercial states that since Rahm came on board City Colleges have been the best in the world.
Further stating that its grads earn up to $35k a year. [$15hr is $30k].
They have to make one of his self promotions correct.
As long as the Archbishop of Chicago holds his hands up, my hands will stay out of my pocket when the collection basket comes around.
Get those robots to replace the aldermen and mayor - couldn't be any worse. And think of the $$$ savings!
2 more months and everyone can vote him out!
Living wage is socialist crap. My kid got minimum wage washing dishes. His comment about his job? "I want to get an education so I don't have to do this again."
Next thing you know they will demand a wage that the cops get without the risk. Who the hell would want to work?
You don't want a machine to be cheaper to run than your job takes to support you. Machines can grill a hamburger and get your order right and they don't sneeze on your meal.
A minimum wage job is meant for those entering the work force. Those who are putting themselves through school work minimum wage jobs. You do not raise a family or begin a family on a minimum wage job. Ask those in Seattle who I believe are getting $15hr for minimum wage. The hotel workers and restaurant workers are losing money, they used to get free meals and parking now they have to pay. Get their own uniforms and pay more taxes. You have to love the liberal mindset no foresight at all whatsoever.
No tips? VRI has invaded China.
"Before a new Republican governor can take office in the state, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel called a hastily-assembled "emergency session" and passed a city ordinance raising the minimum wage."
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VOTES from the guv'ment cheese crowd
Just A Citizen: FYI: Minimum wage jobs are NOT meant to raise a family on. They are starter jobs. Those of us who started working at 14 (babysitting, working at farm stands all summer, etc.) and then got a real job at 16 all worked these jobs. (McDonalds shake machine.) Then you worked and I repeat WORKED your way up the ladder to a better paying job. These mucks can't spell, read, write, do basic math, can't construct a sentence and they want high paying jobs? How about getting all the tats removed, nose rings out, wash your hair, put on clean clothes and maybe you'll get a better paying job. I disagree with this raising minimum wage. You don't appreciate ANYTHING in this world until you worked for it. This bullshit is another "first-world" problem. Boo-Hoo, I'm not getting paid $15.00 an hour to fill a cup with coke! As for insurance? Deal with it like all of us did way back when dinosaurs roamed the earth. My God, isn't anyone smart enough to realize that minimum wage jobs are minimum for a reason? Just more bullshit and feel sorry for me shit. Again, these are STARTER jobs people.
The people demand a living wage. Try and raise a family of four on $10.00 per hour. Let the multi millionaire CEOs take a pay cut, and let the wealthy corporations spend some of their ill gotten gain on their poorest employees. Workers raise and demand your just dues.
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How about don't have kids you can't afford? If you want to have a family, better your situation so you can provide for them? Work hard, get an education, increase your value in the marketplace? Don't rely on the government and your meager skill set to give your kids everything they need to succeed.
12/08/2014 04:47:00 AM
Exactly! Minimum wage jobs, and part-time jobs (like burger flipping) used to be done by high school and college kids, while they were still in school, educating themselves so they wouldn't be stuck flipping burgers as a "career". For each job, there is a maximum amount the job is worth. Even the best burger flipper in the world isn't worth $13/hr. But, because the government is going to artificially inflate the price, businesses that employ minimum wage workers are going to do whatever it takes to get the cost in line. This may mean cutting back hours (sure, you can make $13, for the 5 hours a week you are scheduled to work now), eliminating jobs completely, moving out of the city, etc, etc. I'm glad I don't own a small business in Chicago. If I did, I'd be looking at moving to the suburbs, or maybe even Wisconsin or Indiana.
An editorial in Sundays Trib, yes the Trib, actually showed exactly how the raise in minimum wage will leave many of those who you would think need it the most out of a job or with severely cut hours. Oh, and if they had any perks at all, those will will be gone in the snap of a finger.
And to the nitwit that thinks a CEO with cut his pay to supplement the higher minimum, you have got to be fucking joking.
Remember Snackville Junction on S. Western Ave. They had the right idea. A toy train delivered your food in red baskets!!!!Way ahead of their time.
As a PO and a business owner, the bottom line is that any costs get passed along to the consumer. So, if you agree or not, you'll pay for it. Crazy, but I used to know guys that worked for 15 dollars an hour as security. Now, hell you may be able to get a part time flippin double cheeseburgers for that.
From each according to his means, and to each according to his need. Our president said something like that back when he was first running in 2008 or so. It was profound then and and it has real meaning for our nation now.
The democrats know they've lost the middle class so the have to pander to the working poor. And while $15.00 an hour isn't enough to live on, that salary combined with government "benefits" everybody else pays for aimed at that demographic will keep hem on the democrat plantation for years.
Politically it's genius in an evil way.
Blame RAHM again!
it should all out war RAHM is going for minority votes.
The wage is low but what should someone who can't read be paid?
And i can't wait for "ROBOT" police i believe the movie was called the Terminator.
The fact that this needed to be approved so quickly and behind people's backs should say a great deal.
The people demand a living wage. Try and raise a family of four on $10.00 per hour. Let the multi millionaire CEOs take a pay cut, and let the wealthy corporations spend some of their ill gotten gain on their poorest employees. Workers raise and demand your just dues.
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My wife and I only have 1 kid. Before we started trying to have a second we determined if it was financially feasible. If we were only making $10 hour we wouldn't have tried.
But do the robots have a baby mama that shows up at work once a month to demand child support and embarrass the robot in front of his co-workers?
A lot of people have respectable jobs that pay $16 to $20 an hour. When they see burger flippers and oil change boys making a few dollars less after taxes, they will want to be paid a lot more than a pump boy or a dinette. They too, will make demands. When obama legalizes the aliens, they will take those minimum wage jobs, and bring a work ethic with it. Some of those aliens who understand and speak anglaise will surprise you where t hey end up. You will have to work for even a minimum wage job. Lastly, if you own a business near the county line, especially food, gas, or services, your business is officially dead on arrival. You would have better prospects opening a business in Ferguson.
They get free everything. Go to school and ditch the McJob idiot. Try n do good for your kids sake instead of whining for more burger money. Better yourself
Will the higher minimum wage correspond with a reduction in food stamps? Pay for your own phone? How will it affect other government "benefits"?
Ok first of not every officer puts there life on the line everyday..if u consider coming to work and take your daily nap times for a few hours putting your life on the line then you are an embarrassment to all the families out there that have lost loved ones to the evildoers of society. I realize if you don't work due to lack of support from the top i understand HOWEVER there are many cowards on this job that their daily work routines means comming in take care of a job or 2 if that and call it a night and I mean lights out good night!!! You all know who u are....stop putting yourselfs out there as if you are worthy on putting on that uniform with pride you lazy f*""$
The minimum wage increased in Chicago will lead to most small business fleeing the city, or businesses cutting there work forces. The taxes will ultimately increase on homeowners, and business will charge more for their product to make up for their overhead losses. By 2019 The mayor won't give a shit what the ripple effect is , that's if he is even still here, because he has millions. This city council is a rubber stamp, and if the people had any sense they would pay closer attention to what the crooks at city hall are doing than the media's ferguson propaganda. The only people that need to be wearing cameras is our elected officials.
Welcome this efficiency into the Chicago Police Department who has allowed more crimes that citizens can self-report using a computer. CPD doesn't need police officers taking these self-reports-savings no hit the medical abuse, salary and benefits, CR#s, SPARS, Comp Time Use, etc.! No crime scene, no immediate follow-up investigation!
The people demand a living wage. Try and raise a family of four on $10.00 per hour. Let the multi millionaire CEOs take a pay cut, and let the wealthy corporations spend some of their ill gotten gain on their poorest employees. Workers raise and demand your just dues.
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Did your mommy and daddy tell you to do well in school or one day you will be working at the MacDonald's shit-hamburger joint when you are 30 years old?
Well.. MINE DID.
These jobs ARE NOT to be careers.
They are second jobs, jobs for KIDS in college and for retirees.
The small business person will now GET SCREWED.
Many of these people who own SMALL businesses do not even take a paycheck themselves.
AND REMEMBER, the businesses will just pass the expenses along to the consumer.
I WILL NEVER buy anything ever again in the City of Chicago.
There is a Panera bread on 95th just east of Western that announced that it is closing it's doors on Dec 16th. They said the final straw was the increase in the minimum pay in Chicago. I will bet you a weeks salary that they will be opening in Evergreen park just blocks away real soon.
Rahm is a "Dumb Ass" for not letting the state do it.
Anonymous said...
The people demand a living wage. Try and raise a family of four on $10.00 per hour. Let the multi millionaire CEOs take a pay cut, and let the wealthy corporations spend some of their ill gotten gain on their poorest employees. Workers raise and demand your just dues.
12/08/2014 12:15:00 AM
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How about being more responsible and not having children you cannot afford? How about stop trying to blame everyone else and start being accountable for your own actions? Those CEOs worked hard to get where they are, just like most others except you.
I demand welfare and government assistance be temporary and not long term. If you are making more than minimum wage then you shouldn't be allowed the assistance just as I am denied it because I work. There is no incentive for the indigent to better them selves because the liberal government will just throw more money at them for votes.
Rahm's not broke he's flush with cash. He never has had any intention of fulfilling the city's pension obligation... so he's got all that cash at his disposal.
Everyone needs to remember that while he's pandering for votes he'd much rather raise the minimum wage than honor his pension obligation to the city's public servants.
I own a restaurant that employs 16 minimum wage workers & some who make more. Here's how this is going to work. I'll raise prices slightly, lay off 2 of the employees & cut the hours of the remaining people. We'll spread the pain around for everyone to feel.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The people demand a living wage. Try and raise a family of four on $10.00 per hour. Let the multi millionaire CEOs take a pay cut, and let the wealthy corporations spend some of their ill gotten gain on their poorest employees. Workers raise and demand your just dues.
12/08/2014 12:15:00 AM
Why not start EVERYBODY out at the CEO position? To hell with unskilled labor. To hell with entry level jobs and to hell with working your way up the ladder. CEO for EVERYBODY!!!
The “New World” is really a destruction of our world - Western Civilization. This is now the vision for the “new world”. http://www.america2050.org/megaregions.html
What is it? This is where all Americans (except for the a handful of chosen ones) will be living by 2050. You can run away to the "suburbs", for now. However, eventually their manipulative rules will force all people into living in these regions. Just a few examples of how they will herd the masses: ever increasing gas taxes and tolls, expanding toll roads, eliminating car lanes by turning them into bike lanes to make your commute totally miserable and expensive so eventually you'll cry uncle and decide to move into the city, zoning rules such as outlawing septic tanks, prohibiting drilling new wells, preventing building a single family home unless you have a certain number of acres, creating urban growth boundaries designed to restrict development, and on and on they go. By hook or crook they will herd the masses into areas where they will be more easily monitored. Think that can never happen? Think again. Look around. Notice all those multiuse buildings suddenly springing up where the first floor space is for shops, upper floors for offices and the highest floors for apartments? Have you seen those massive apartment buildings built almost on top of the sidewalk and ideally next to light rail? They are diverting billions of dollars into light rail instead of road repair because cars will eventually go bye, bye. Their ultimate goal, you will live, work and play within a four block radius of your "smart growth" apartment. Noticed lately how they seem to claim people don't want suburbia, they want city living? Think that's true? Think the American dream of cruising down the highway in your fast car, heading towards your big home with a nice, private backyard has now become riding a smelly train and living in a 400 sq. foot box stacked upon hundreds of others? C'mon. That's absurd, but Madison Avenue marketers can manipulate the public into willingly participating in their own demise. Just look at the success Edward Bernay's had in 1929 manipulating women into smoking by equating smoking with emancipation. Cigarettes became "torches of freedom" http://www.culturewars.com/CultureWars/1999/torches.html and “social justice”, which has absolutely nothing to do with justice reigns supreme, and the evil White racist is eventually erased.
OT: Did Dr. Dean Sr. PhD agree that this article should be written or did he damand that you call FOP first in order to get approval or heads up?
Dean your newsletter article for Dec clearly shows that you can't handle hot questions at FOP meetings. Please go back to disability. Ooops your still on it.
OT....... clueless now?
So totally not understanding some things here. I received the newsletter and it says that Working day furlo is by days not hours. I asked my watch rep he said days, my unit rep says hours, and FOP has no idea. So can someone please clear this up. With furlo picks coming in a few days it be nice to see exactly what is going on.
Also on that note, does anyone know if comp time is by seniority.
Thanks
Oh-oh again --
Just heard on radio news now -- McDonalds is going to begin installing touch-screen ordering technology in some areas to see how it goes.
I do remember predicting this here on SCC a few years ago...
Aside from what tech, coupled with big increases in the minimum wage, will do to low-skilled positions, here we are, deep already into the "Internet Of Things," with the Russians and Chinese and Iranians and North Koreans hacking at us like crazy.
Wait until some kid shuts off all 3,000,000 "smart meters" here at once.
Maybe not so smart, huh?
Had more redundancy, less vulnerability with the old analog gear -- if you wanted to mess with it you had to climb over the fence and beat it with a rock, not just sit in your room 10,000 miles away fiddling with a computer...
They need to put those in tilted quilt and hooters!!!
Oh-oh, more of it --
Banks are sliding -- loans less profitable when you're playing with interest rates like .01%. Aside from the future of tellers, some banks are telling small corporate customers to "move their cash elsewhere or look for fees of up to $500 per month per account."
What this will do to ordinary people trying to get by from month to month is anyone's guess...
If the government didn't force high paying manufacturing jobs overseas, they wouldn't have to attempt to make these entry level service industry jobs into living wage jobs.
All they are doing is destroying these businesses. I'm not going to pay more than I already am on a stinking hamburger served to me by a 30something year old loser with a bad attitude. I'll make my burger at home from now on.
Sounds good... As the world population continues to grow, robots to replace them in the work force. Good luck finding any employment.
"Work hard, get an education, increase your value in the marketplace?"
12/08/2014 04:47:00 AM
I realize that this is good and well-intended advice, but our new Shark Tank of an economy, shuddering from deindustrialization coupled with a deliberate flood of aliens -- the population doubling and redoubling to keep wages low and rents and prices high -- can keep folks running until they drop in their tracks.
Our fragmented society has no overall metaphysical basis. Moral compass was lost when the words "It's just business" were first pronounced.
Considering that, oh, J.P. Morgan Chase seems to be little more than an "ongoing criminal emterprise," judging by the billions of dollars in fines that have been levied against them, I must confess that I didn't get too excited when I saw film of some Berkeleyite smashing out one of their windows after another in the "protests" last night -- and I am a guy who saves a bit of paper until he spots a trash receptacle, and who screws loose caps back onto fire hydrants.
They have pushed so hard, so far, so fast that they're starting to lose even us...o terrore!
"The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money. In fact, the history of the recent financial crisis, which doubles as a history of the rapid decline and fall of the suddenly swindled dry American empire, reads like a Who's Who of Goldman Sachs graduates."
-- Matt Taibbi
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405
McD's -- 2,000 touch-screen ordering systems in its 14,000 U.S. outlets by next year.
For a start.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The people demand a living wage. Try and raise a family of four on $10.00 per hour. Let the multi millionaire CEOs take a pay cut, and let the wealthy corporations spend some of their ill gotten gain on their poorest employees. Workers raise and demand your just dues.
12/08/2014 12:15:00 AM
Dear asshat...flipping burgers at McDonald's is a starter job, most low skill low intelligence jobs are starter jobs. I lost my job years ago and pulled up my boot straps, cut unnecessary expenses, like cable, the taverns, my primeco phone service, eating out, and worked 3 low skill jobs to support my family. 6 sometimes 7 days a week. In today's society...we have to coddle and take care of everyone, taking from those that work hard to put everyone on an even keel and same level of wealth or lack thereof....didn't the Soviet Union try that one? Yes, it was called communism. I don't want to support you or your family, or anyone else's. I have enough on my plate now. Do it on your own as I did and many before me.
13 an hour? To fuck up a simple order? To do a half assed shelf stock job? To ignore me when I need a question answered? Screw you, I hope they automate everything.
How about its called minimum wage for a reason. Your not supposed to work at a minimum wage job your entire life. There are more jobs programs and scholarships out there for low income people then they m ow what to do with. How about you get off your lazy asses and learn a skill or educate yourselves instead of demanding a higher wage just to show up to work.
Its the democratic way. By giving a higher minimum wage it simply keeps people in poverty which is what they want. Wake up people.
since when have chicago democrats been about fixing a problem, instead of prolonging a problem or making the problem worse
So, Rahm is raising the minimum wage for unskilled labor. Well, isn't that special?
So nobody will be eating fast food for lunch anymore, because it costs too much. Oh, it means that Rahm single-handedly increased the rate of inflation. So the price of unskilled labor goes up, and sales tax is based on the increased costs everyone pays, so we pay more sales tax. Just why would anyone do business in The City?
Lake County is beautiful, DuPage isn't too bad either.
But the hands down winner for businesses to have events is Lake County, Indiana, where the price of gas is $2.46, cigarettes are much lower than The City, and they have a casino!
Rahm's inflation is going to cost The City all kinds of business, and especially hard the fast food restaurants when people cannot afford to eat out daily and start bringing their own lunch to their workplace.
12.50am has been drinking the leftist koolaid,,,,,like the other poster said----don't have kids unless you can support them,,,,,I had to wait for my kids---try keeping your legs together before your propagate
How long until robots replace police officers? Don't even think that it will not happen. It will happen. Right now advances in robotics and artificial intelligence dictate that it is not a matter of if but when this revolution takes place.
Anonymous said...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2841427/Robo-cops-patrol-Silicon-Valley-gets-five-foot-tall-robot-security-guards.
12/08/2014 12:44:00 AM
With advances in robots and artificial intelligence, I predict that in about ten years most of our jobs will be toast. Plus the public will love it when we are replaced with robots. Also drones can patrol the sky. This isn't science fiction folks, this is science reality.
City counsel should pass legislation banning choke holds by the police and security guards.
Maybe the city can purchase 50 robots with rubber stampers and replace the aldermen?
Get my order right for a change... Then let's think about more money for fast food types
"How about don't have kids you can't afford? If you want to have a family, better your situation so you can provide for them? Work hard, get an education, increase your value in the marketplace? Don't rely on the government and your meager skill set to give your kids everything they need to succeed."
12/08/2014 04:47:00 AM
Definite up vote on this response.
If you're a broke-ass and or on the taxpayer tit, don't have/don't have anymore kids.
Sick and tired of everything being "for the children" of a tax draining perpetual entitlement class.
"For the children" is nothing but weasel-speak to those of us who have to get up and take our old, tired, beat-up middle class asses to our jobs.
The working translation of "For the Children" means:
"Fuck you middle class tax paying suckers. We're gonna shit on your pay and benefits, roll back your purchasing power, bust the equity you have in your homes, cripple your pensions and strip-mine whatever earnings on monies you invested for your future and give it all away as corporate welfare and to a rapidly breeding entitlement class that we will further use as a lever against YOU and to pry even more of your money from your grasp."
To the Progressives, "equality" means busting the earners backwards to parity with the non-contributors.
That is much easier than having the non-contributors expending the energy to rise ABOVE their circumstances... Too much like hard work.
"A rising tide lifts all boats."
Progressives fan the flames of resentment on behalf of the catered to constituents in begrudging a man who has worked to build a boat so as not to get wet along with the non-contributing catered to mutts.
Having a boat in times of high water is racist, right?
Prog-tards espouse this rotten shit.
We see Progressivism as a cancer and the embodying antithesis of "to every man according to his talent."
Sparkle-Farts said, "You didn't build that."
Meanwhile, the high cards in the Rolodex of Evil laugh up their sleeves at everyone who isn't them...
"For the Children" is nothing but a cynical, politically crafted word salad.
Where the fuck is my fop book?
Miminum wage is for unskilled workers. To live in this society, you go to school, learn a trade or get a degree and then you earn a livable wage. Salaries and wages are decided on the workers' skill level, if oyu have no skills expect to make litle.
The people demand a living wage. Try and raise a family of four on $10.00 per hour. Let the multi millionaire CEOs take a pay cut, and let the wealthy corporations spend some of their ill gotten gain on their poorest employees. Workers raise and demand your just dues
Let some of these life long welfare leeches take a cut in their welfare handouts.
what makes you think that your job wont be the next "low hanging fruit" on the automation/job elimination scale?
It's already started with the cams.
It started with the lowering of standards for this job.
Soon we'll be punching in our fast food orders at kiosks instead of telling a min wage worker.
This is not a comment on the wage story, it is a link that I think you'll be interested in:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/31407405-418/cop-in-botched-koschman-case-found-soft-landing-on-ag-staff.html#.VIZBVcxAK8Q
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You don't want a machine to be cheaper to run than your job takes to support you. Machines can grill a hamburger and get your order right and they don't sneeze on your meal.
12/08/2014 07:10:00 AM
Machines don't say "Huh?"
When I worked at McDonalds the cash registers had numbers on them, we had to add up the order in our head and add the tax and just punch in the total. Quickly. That is the way that owner wanted it, that's the way it was. It was faster and you had to concentrate to add the bill properly while bagging everything. To this day I can add a string of figures in my head before someone can get their iPhone out and start the calculator app. Then they say, "How'd you do that?"
What do the chinese need robots for? They pay $1 an hour
Maybe the city can purchase 50 robots with rubber stampers and replace the aldermen?
12/08/2014 03:33:00 PM
NOW THAT IS GOOOD!!!!
minum wage is for unskilled workers. To live in this society, you go to school, learn a trade or get a degree and then you earn a livable wage. Salaries and wages are decided on the workers' skill level, if oyu have no skills expect to make litle.
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This sounds alot like Mitt Romney telling poor people to barrow money from their parents for college. To all you who say don't have kids if you can't afford them...too late. Not the kids fault mom can't feed them and dads a shit head. You go house to house and take food out of kids mouths. Link or not cannot sufficiently supplement minimum wage. How many of you make over 90k a year with or without overtime and still struggle to get by. I guess people talking about "get an education or skills" are all those "privileged" people the libs talk about. You all work in the neighborhoods in Chicago and know dam well most people (regardless of race) don't have the means.
Ever get the feeling its always the same few, that always fuck it up for everyone else?
Dear Cool Tac Guy blasting Sweet Home Alabama,
Have fun at call back, but you do have a cool story to tell to the barfly's.
"Work hard, get an education, increase your value in the marketplace?"
12/08/2014 04:47:00 AM
I realize that this is good and well-intended advice, but our new Shark Tank of an economy, shuddering from deindustrialization coupled with a deliberate flood of aliens -- the population doubling and redoubling to keep wages low and rents and prices high -- can keep folks running until they drop in their tracks.
Our fragmented society has no overall metaphysical basis. Moral compass was lost when the words "It's just business" were first pronounced.
Considering that, oh, J.P. Morgan Chase seems to be little more than an "ongoing criminal emterprise," judging by the billions of dollars in fines that have been levied against them, I must confess that I didn't get too excited when I saw film of some Berkeleyite smashing out one of their windows after another in the "protests" last night -- and I am a guy who saves a bit of paper until he spots a trash receptacle, and who screws loose caps back onto fire hydrants.
They have pushed so hard, so far, so fast that they're starting to lose even us...o terrore!
"The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money. In fact, the history of the recent financial crisis, which doubles as a history of the rapid decline and fall of the suddenly swindled dry American empire, reads like a Who's Who of Goldman Sachs graduates."
-- Matt Taibbi
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405
You're getting your "insight" from Rolling Stone. The rag that completely fabricated the UVA rape story. Wow, simpletons like you continue to be the problem.
I dont blame Derrick Rose and I don't blame all the people in the ghetto for taking whatever they can. I blame the ignorant liberal yuppies that support thru buying tickets, voting democrat or marching with these parasites. Derrick rose like most from his neighborhood are pieces of shit, he just has more money. its the educated liberals you should be upset and worried about. what you have to remember is the only difference between Rose and a dealer on the westside is he's a little faster and can jump a little higher, and for some reason thats important in our society.
What districts are getting the 10 hour days?
Anonymous said...
From each according to his means, and to each according to his need. Our president said something like that back when he was first running in 2008 or so. It was profound then and and it has real meaning for our nation now.
12/08/2014 08:41:00 AM
It was profound because it's the mantra of communist systems. It's too bad that was lost on you before you voted.
I bet that the robots are made in China.
I'm sure they would look good with duty rigs, tasers, radios and body cams, and they could be programmed not to apply chokeholds!
SERIOUS QUESTION:
If wages are going up what should an off duty P.O. be charging for security?
I know Sheriffs charge less so i'm talking about Chicago Police officers.
I've seen post for 20$ and that seems extremely low now.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The fact that this needed to be approved so quickly and behind people's backs should say a great deal.
12/08/2014 08:48:00 AM
What it says, no, SCREAMS, is Rahm was desperate to use this 'win' in his campaign commercials. "See how I look out for you little peasants? See? That was ME, Rahm, who did that for you peons. Vote for ME! me, me, me!"
There is a Panera bread on 95th just east of Western that announced that it is closing it's doors on Dec 16th. They said the final straw was the increase in the minimum pay in Chicago. I will bet you a weeks salary that they will be opening in Evergreen park just blocks away real soon.
They aren't closing because they will have to pay their workers higher wages. Panera is closing because they tried to charge people a lot more for what they can obtain at a Subway or Potbelly's for far cheaper. Have you ever seen either of those establishments announcing a closing? Yeah, me neither!
Dear Cool Tac Guy blasting Sweet Home Alabama,
Have fun at call back, but you do have a cool story to tell to the barfly's.
12/08/2014 08:16:00 PM
They should have been playing "I fought the law"
Panera closing because of costs? Doubt it. Just think that the chain has run its course.
$5 for soup in a bread bowl that has shrunk markedly. And the selection of soups is that same all the time.
McD's is dying because it is crummy expensive food. Can go to a deli counter and have a sandwich made fresh any way I want it for the same money.
"The people demand a living wage. Try and raise a family of four on $10.00 per hour. Let the multi millionaire CEOs take a pay cut, and let the wealthy corporations spend some of their ill gotten gain on their poorest employees. Workers raise and demand your just dues."
Those jobs were NEVER meant to be the sole source of income for the primary breadwinner. High school and college kids held these jobs until the pool of jobs requiring unskilled labor moved out of state for lower taxes, etc.
As far as the "wealthy corporations" and "CEOs" just sucking up these costs, you're delusional. They'll simply pass these costs onto the consumer, effectively making this just another socialist-driven tax.
rb
. Link or not cannot sufficiently supplement minimum wage. How many of you make over 90k a year with or without overtime and still struggle to get by. I guess people talking about "get an education or skills" are all those "privileged" people the libs talk about. You all work in the neighborhoods in Chicago and know dam well most people (regardless of race) don't have the means.
12/08/2014 07:51:00 PM
My dad was digging ditches when he met my mom, literally. He worked hard and did better. I worked hard and did better too. My kids work hard and they will do better still. That's how this world works.
We never asked for anything and never took anything we didn't work for. Are you seeing the pattern here? Most successful people figure that out. The rest coast and think it's OK to ask for a handout. They are always at the bottom.
"You're getting your "insight" from Rolling Stone. The rag that completely fabricated the UVA rape story. Wow, simpletons like you continue to be the problem."
12/08/2014 08:27:00 PM
Oh, bullshit.
I quoted one paragraph from one completely different story of theirs by a different writer -- years before the UVA incident -- to illustrate a point about things I see myself every day.
You've pulled this before. Hack one source, one quote while leaving the whole huge problem standing there unaddressed by you. Meaningless cheap shot.
Among everything I am, everything I've experienced, everything I own, there can be found one coffee mug with some advertising printed on it. So point at that and accuse me of "learning everything I know from Ed's Lawn Service."
Idiot.
"Just a few examples of how they will herd the masses...outlawing septic tanks, prohibiting drilling new wells, preventing building a single family home unless you have a certain number of acres, creating urban growth boundaries designed to restrict development..."
12/08/2014 11:13:00 AM
...not to mention the snatching up and "land banking" of small family farms as they are killed off, to declare them "nature refuges," "conservation areas," etc., so that they can never be used for productive purposes again.
Open the borders and let the flood in -- and pile everyone on top of each other in the cities, while the super-rich who contribute to destructive causes like explosive Third World population growth and concomitant unrestricted immigration to the West "fight sprawl" because it would spoil the view from the top of their private mountain...
We get it.
"...poor kids don't have the means..."
Horseshit. The means are there. The programs are there. You have to have the balls to tell the neighbor kid that you're not going out to smoke blunts and case shit tonight because you have to study. No one said it was going to be easy, but it can be done.
No keeses for you you fucking typical Democrat apologist.
Anonymous said...
A minimum wage job is meant for those entering the work force. Those who are putting themselves through school work minimum wage jobs. You do not raise a family or begin a family on a minimum wage job. Ask those in Seattle who I believe are getting $15hr for minimum wage. The hotel workers and restaurant workers are losing money, they used to get free meals and parking now they have to pay. Get their own uniforms and pay more taxes. You have to love the liberal mindset no foresight at all whatsoever.
12/08/2014 07:38:00 AM Open your eyes the next time you go to a fast food restaurant drive-thru and notice that alot of the workers are not teenagers they are adults whom need a job.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
McD's -- 2,000 touch-screen ordering systems in its 14,000 U.S. outlets by next year.
For a start.
12/08/2014 12:06:00 PM
EXACTLY....who needs robots? this is 2014, cmon son, there is an app for that, or there will be...
Let me get this straight, minimum wage goes up, significantly, in Chicago. The taxes taken out of the check before the employee gets paid are larger (with or without increasing the percentage). All products in the city go up to compensate and as such the taxes paid per item go up. Then at the end of the year, taxes paid on income are larger as the employee gets "more" money during the year.
Anyone see a pattern here? It looks to me as a way for the politicians to get an increase while looking like they care about the working poor.
My question is that if someone worked hard and pulled themselves up to almost $13 and someone who just started suddenly makes the same amount as them with less effort and experience, won't that make the valued employee care less and become a crap employee?
Just human nature.
Anonymous said...
There is a Panera bread on 95th just east of Western that announced that it is closing it's doors on Dec 16th. They said the final straw was the increase in the minimum pay in Chicago. I will bet you a weeks salary that they will be opening in Evergreen park just blocks away real soon.
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The business is probably in the wrong neighborhood for that type of product, expensive take out food ($1.00 for a bag of three chips).
Yah, but when wil us robots get our freedom.
Anybody see the classical movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still?"
That's the kind of law enforcement we need. The resisters did't really get a chance to resist.
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