Camera Time
- Starting in the next two weeks, some Chicago police officers will begin wearing body cameras, police announced today.
As part of a 45- to 60-day pilot program, officers working afternoon shifts in the Northwest Side's Shakespeare District can wear body cameras on their headgear and clothing. The Shakespeare District covers parts of Logan Square, West Town and Humboldt Park.
"[T]his new program ... will ensure more transparency from CPD and a new view of the work performed by our officers," Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said in a statement. "While they are not the be-all-end-all, I believe body cameras will strengthen police and community relations."
The department is being provided 30 cameras that attach to officers' glasses, headgear or clothing. Officers will turn the cameras on during routine stops as well as "high-risk situations," according to the statement. They will be required to inform anyone they contact that they are being recorded.
Rumor has it that this is purely voluntary. Rumor also has it that volunteers are rather scarce at the moment. Which means of course, that in short order, "voluntary" will become "mandatory" for certain people with certain spots they want to keep.
Keep us updated 014.
Keep us updated 014.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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They will be ordered to do it if no volunteers. If refuse then cr will be initiated per fop meeting today
I think this is awesome. Now the public can see how some of these animals really act.
Watch what you say to members at fop meetings....
People are informing supt office and internal affairs. Fyi
The terrible issue with this plan is there is no protection for officers on camera and the FOIA law, that poor officer in Flagstaff Arizona had his murder posted on YouTUBE and several other outlets after the news media filed their version of FOIA demanding the video, where is our protections???? Our lives matter!!!!!
What a wonderful idea. I wonder how long before they become "out of order"?
Will these cameras have the same level of reliability as the PDT's and in-car cameras? Will these cameras be built to the high level of craftsmanship that the district stations have achieved over the past 15 years?
Yeah, I think we all know what to expect from these cameras.
Anyone know if there have been studies on all this electronic shit on our bodies? I mean we have dept radio, body cameras and cell phones now all emitting radiation. Whats next? Cameras on our guns? Might as well put us in a microwave and hit start.
14?
cmon why not the officers at City hall.
How about those 1st district foot guy on that weird watch?
How about Da mayor security detail?
Oh well good luck guys downloading those lovely pieces of evidence every time you make a traffic stop.
You can "Burn" a CD and then bag it.
Word is 25th District Commander Mario Pena is ruining what was a great place to work. I would rather work wearing a camera then work for Mario.
Rahm needs to wear a body camera at all times in order to repair the public trust in him.
Good citywide March 1 including narcotics,vice,airports they are trying to eliminate overtime no more VRI effective 15march also it was good while it lasted,maybe rahm wants the 100 million from VRI to go into the pension that's and idea "we can believe in"!
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2015 or 2016? What year March are you talking about? Thanks
Did they even get training on how and when to use these? What if an officer forgets or doesn't have time to inform someone they are recording? What are the legalities and liabilities involved in the various scenarios? Who has access to the recordings? Does an order exist on this subject? It's just more nonsense with too many unanswered questions. An over exaggeration to recent and justified incidents involving police outside of Chicago
Well whoever wears one of these, don't expect too many friends or even people who make small talk with you. I'll be sure to stay far away from these rats. Funny thing, I'm all by the book, and one of the motivated ones, but this is a slap in every policeman's face. The savage animals in society can't be controlled,so let's blame the big bad cop for all societal problems.
How about starting those cameras on cops at 35th St.
SCC, how about a post about Commander Don O'neill retiring from his six figure job on the police department to collect his six figure pension from the broke ass pension fund. Then, the minute he retires, the Department hires him back to a six-figure "civilian" job in the Department. Does he really get a six figure pension and a six figure salary? At the same time? Is this possible? And we wonder why everyone seems to be in favor of pension reform. Rahm and the gold stars!
foot guys etc
Why don't they just stream everything we do online?? Citizens know too much as it is.
I wonder why 005,003,007,004,006 were not prime candidates for this. the game is changing fella's
001 District PO's (some of them) have been for a few weeks now already.
I volunteer! I volunteer!
Wait until you see what part of the body I wear that camera on.
Now, Kees me you fool!!!!
They will be ordered to do it if no volunteers. If refuse then cr will be initiated per fop meeting today
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If no volunteers, then they have to go by reverse seniority.
Why don't they have Sgts wear them since it sounds like these are incidents that a Sgt should respond to anyway. It's like when the tasers were first introduced. Oh yeah Sgts are never at incidents anymore too busy doing fantasy sports on cell phones.
Video tape that
I think this is a great idea, and I will be the. 1st to volunteer as long as all the alderman and exempts join in with me let's be real transparent might as well give rahm one too
How about our politicians wearing these same body cameras 24/7. This way we can actually see and hear them making their corrupt deals as they happen. They would rather put this new burden on cops to make everything seem legit.
As a non-cop, I can't wait to see some leaked video of how the residents of areas that get all the police presence act on a daily basis. I'm sure the powers that be will write them off as anomalous.
Watch what you say at FOP meetings?! These bafoons are recording and streaming the meetings so anyone with a psssword can watch and listen. The Supt's office also knows who is identifying themselves at the microphone. I can't believe these guys support cameras. And if you think these cameras are "going to show how citizens really act", think again. Anything recording will not be released unless under judges orders. Or do you think there will be another way to leak video footage? When was the last time cpd car footage was released? Never!!
And do you notice that under Shields, the stage at the meetings would have 8 or 9 people sitting up there? Now it has whittled down to four plus the brain-dead "parlimentarian" who slept the whole meeting. Does this guy get paid?
I'm going to cancel my netflix and stop attending meetings, I can watch on my computer with a container of popcorn.
Per the Chicago Tribune.
The equipment is being provided by Taser International Inc., at no cost to the police department, according to a news release.
We all know who is the go to guy at Taser International.
It's always amusing to see how clout works. No shame!
do they come with flashing blue strobe lights you'll wear on your heads?
The cameras don't make police less likely to use physical force on people. They make people less likely to use physical force on police.
Police respond to the way people behave. Compliance results in compliance. Force results in force.
the people are always filming us and posting on u tube,why do we have to inform them they don't inform us.why we are distracted telling them who knows what the will do as we are not giving them our full attention. no warning needed post all we want. they want this let them live with it.just waiting to be entertain by the u tube post.please don't tell me the can post us and we can't post them what is fair for one is fair for all
I hope we use the GoPro4, then I can use it when I go skydiving or when I get in a chase. Instant YouTube success.
Anyone know if there have been studies on all this electronic shit on our bodies? I mean we have dept radio, body cameras and cell phones now all emitting radiation. Whats next? Cameras on our guns? Might as well put us in a microwave and hit start.
1/21/2015 12:41:00 AM
Get a grip
If CPD volunteers on cameras, let's ask the mayor to do so too. Cpd don't just give cameras to the cops that are nice and sweet to make you look good! Why don't you put 300 names in a bingo wheel and see what names you get?
Anyone know if there have been studies on all this electronic shit on our bodies? I mean we have dept radio, body cameras and cell phones now all emitting radiation. Whats next? Cameras on our guns? Might as well put us in a microwave and hit start.
1/21/2015 12:41:00 AM
You spend more time at home than at work. Get rid of your microwave,your cell phones,TV's,etc
Might point is worry about something that is worth worrying about, not this crap
So wear it and never turn it on, problem solved.
A little baby oil on the lens does wonders.
Have the issues been resolved such as cost, storage, and police privacy? I think this falls under FOP duties.....
Tools
O.T. 12th District 2nd watch rep took a poll of officer's who were in favor of 10 hr. days. NO one raised their hand. Shove your 10 hour days FLOP
Watch what you say to members at fop meetings....
People are informing supt office and internal affairs. Fyi
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Yeah, it's called Dean Angelo. The reason it's filmed is for the mayor. It's called "new world order." We've been infiltrated.
I haven't worn head gear since I was 13. I'm pretty now. I won't go back!
Which means of course, that in short order, "voluntary" will become "mandatory" for certain people with certain spots they want to keep.
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Don't Worry.
Plenty of "suck-holes" in 014 to go around here.
Anonymous said...
The terrible issue with this plan is there is no protection for officers on camera and the FOIA law, that poor officer in Flagstaff Arizona had his murder posted on YouTUBE and several other outlets after the news media filed their version of FOIA demanding the video, where is our protections???? Our lives matter!!!!!
1/21/2015 12:29:00 AM
The Arizona cop is not the only one. A sheriff's deputy in Georgia had his last traffic stop recorded on his dash camera in 1998. It also turned out to be his murder, with sound. The deputy waited way too long to open fire on his attacker and died a horrible death as a result. His screams were terrible as he lie waiting to be executed. Asked why he killed the deputy, the combat vet murderer answered, "Because he let me."
That murderer was himself executed this very month, Jan 13, in a Georgia State Prison. Here in Illinois the corrupt governors commute their sentences.
regardless what the company people say, these cameras are not going to last, they wont hold up, just like in car cameras and computers, and will be obsolete when the city don't pay. BUT, that being said, these cameras are for hanging the PO and not some goof citizen. So, when you wear one, the smart thing to do is very little.
Just put that baby in the microwave for 30 seconds.
It will turn on but will be fried.
The department is giving the sun times a list of all POs stripped and reliieved of police powers from May 2011 until now. Interesting times coming.
Just another start to say Chicago is doing it to win over the peeps. Time will pass and they will be forgotten and broken. .Hell the brand new cams in the Explorers all fail after about a month. Where I am at 75% of vehicle cams are non functioning. With camera tickets going over 1yr.
They've tried cameras on tasers and these will fade just like those did. Once we start showing how bad the individuals we deal with daily act, the $$$$ attached to defense atty's will go down. they are not here for the long run. It's just the knee jerk now. Departments won't be able to keep up with the storage and maintanence and they will fizzle out
I think that the court sergeants and officers should be the first ones to be issued cameras. That would be life changing and very interesting.
I'm ready for my close-up now.
Lights! Cameras! Action!
The only ones who'd volunteer for this are suck asses willing to do anything to please their bosses.
The only ones who'd volunteer for this are suck asses willing to do anything to please their bosses.
when a detective is requesting felony charges the interview with the Assistant States Attorney should be video taped as well. The public will get a birds eye view of criminal justice when they see how the states attorneys blow off cases and trample the rights of the poor drug induced jackass that Sharpton, Jackson and other democrates are so worried about.
""""""Anyone know if there have been studies on all this electronic shit on our bodies? I mean we have dept radio, body cameras and cell phones now all emitting radiation. Whats next? Cameras on our guns? Might as well put us in a microwave and hit start."""""
Ya see! Ya see! And all these years the guys have been laughing at me for wearing my tin foil hat.
The first time the camera shows a officer was justified in his actions, all the preachers will be crying the video was edited!
Will the stuff caught on camera be used against the public with the same amount of prejudice, malice and institutional/media bias that is reserved for Policemen?
We want the joyful haters and false accusers in the public and the media to have the same kind of crisis in confidence that Policemen are having on this issue.
The powers that be want this issue to been seen as a punitive action wholly contingent on reining in the wild and out of control cops.
If Policemen are expected to gladly hang from the gallows of public opinion and ginned up outrage as the price for "doing their jobs," they would be overjoyed to see the professional false accusers, greivance mongers and habitual folklore-ists along with their aiders, abettors and prog-tard agenda keepers getting their dirty necks jerked on the same gallows...
The imposition of body cameras should contain "toxic" provisions for EVERYONE, not just The Policeman.
No safeguards or protections for Policemen?
Absolutely none for anybody else...
What's the problem?
We're "doing our jobs" just as the shit-talkers and joyful haters demand, right?
"No free lunch" kinda resonates right now...
This is the bitter stuff a propaganda war against Policemen is made of.
The Police are the enemy...
Viva Hate.
"That's why you guys are being made to wear cameras... You're so mean, full of hatred and you're so out of control."
Hiram grau will get a second full pension and leo smitz will also get a second pension too
Why warn the mutts on the street that they're being recorded?
Why warn anybody?
Do they warn Policemen that they're being watched and listened to?
Fuck no.
So why should anybody be given a heads up if the cops aren't given the same courtesy?
Just another indication of our de facto second class citizenship?
Policemen have no rights that anyone else is compelled by force or by law to recognize.
Great I got to try and tell a bunch of nuts on a domestic that they are being recorded - that should go over well
Ohhh this is going to be GREAT!!!! I'm call a sgt to EVERY job! hahahaahahha
totally going to sit in the watch commanders office all day!
if a citizen is stopped, and says, I don't want to be recorded (by the government/police)........then what?
Why 014? Is it that the powers that be don't want the true ways of the hood captured on video and released prior to the election?
Test them where they will do what's intended, to defend police against the endless stream of lies spewed forth.
OT: At least the guys and gals in 003 figured out the kid was an imposter the same day.
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Teen-Posed-as-Doctor-at-West-Palm-Beach-Hospital-Police-288810831.html
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well whoever wears one of these, don't expect too many friends or even people who make small talk with you. I'll be sure to stay far away from these rats. Funny thing, I'm all by the book, and one of the motivated ones, but this is a slap in every policeman's face. The savage animals in society can't be controlled,so let's blame the big bad cop for all societal problems.
1/21/2015 01:48:00 AM
Lighten up Francis!
All 18th District 5th Watch Michigan Avenue Day Officers should be required to wear these. They can add it to their Resume.
Buy a pesonal body cam and double record.
Anonymous said...I wonder why 005,003,007,004,006 were not prime candidates for this. the game is changing fella's1/21/2015 05:18:00 AM
So you want 005 to be a pilot for the body camera and the 10 hour days???? Really dude!!! Like we don't have enough to deal with in that dist. Share the wealth
"All right Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close up". Norma Desmond Sunset Boulevard
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I think that the court sergeants and officers should be the first ones to be issued cameras. That would be life changing and very interesting.
1/21/2015 08:58:00 AM
referring to the ones who come in late for work, or.....head for the golf course, or.....refuse to work weekends?
Good citywide March 1 including narcotics,vice,airports they are trying to eliminate overtime no more VRI effective 15march also it was good while it lasted,maybe rahm wants the 100 million from VRI to go into the pension that's and idea "we can believe in"!
Good get rid of VRI. Its only screwing us in the long run. The cities not hiring officers because of it and that's less officers contributing into our pension, safety issue, and also getting time denied is a lot worse since VRI.
They've tried cameras on tasers and these will fade just like those did. Once we start showing how bad the individuals we deal with daily act, the $$$$ attached to defense atty's will go down. they are not here for the long run. It's just the knee jerk now. Departments won't be able to keep up with the storage and maintanence and they will fizzle out
These cameras are to watch our actions. People don't really care what we have to deal with on a daily basis. Putting people behind bars is about money. It cost money to keep people in prison that's why so many people get out of doing any time.
They will be ordered to do it if no volunteers. If refuse then cr will be initiated per fop meeting today
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If no volunteers, then they have to go by reverse seniority.
1/21/2015 06:55:00 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
100 percent wrong about reverse seniority. Attend meetings and learn something and stop guessing. 95 percent of our dept is know it alls. When I attend meetings everyone who asks a question usually references the blog as their information.. The ask the question or make a statement then are usually told that the info the got is wrong, false or flat out never happened. The blog is filled with garbage info. Info that is put out in the comments section is usually posted by some know it all bitter scab who doesn't have a clue. There is no general order on this, there is no rule in place making it automatic to go by seniority. I can tell you that a supervisor worth his salt won't put a camera on a kid who works, locks people up and sometimes gets beefs so that guy can continue to work but also protect him from stepping on his yahoo on camera. Instead they will put it on the wagon guys, the traffic guy, the park cars or the guys who do nothing and never stop people or put hands on anyone. It's smart that way. Those guys don't get in trouble to begin with so no harm no foul. They wear it for 45 days and it's done nobody gets jammed up. My opinion of course
If I wear a body camera, I may be charged with video piracy for unlawfully recording movies all night and be subject to a $200,000 fine and or up to 5 years in prison.
"headgear"..... Really?
What desk hero came up with that?
I would like to see a camera on the City council, The State Legislators and The Senate & Congress to catch all of their closed door deals, but God knows that will never happen as they decide who they wanna watch and judge.
Anonymous 014 said...
Which means of course, that in short order, "voluntary" will become "mandatory" for certain people with certain spots they want to keep.
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Don't Worry.
Plenty of "suck-holes" in 014 to go around here
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014 3rd watch which is the only ones accountable to this program are accustomed to bouncing car to car. Their morale was shot 15 years ago with Maria Maher and continued to this day. They won't crack now, because they've been shown than they are political pawns in this hate the police chess game.
There's not one working sink in the locker room bathroom in the 006th district, I'm not too worried about these bullshit toys lasting too long.
Can't wait till they download all that footage of me taking a lengthy dump!
So,this is discretionary? Only when the call dictates if you turn the camera on or not? Thats like saying "wear your vest,if you think this call could lead to a shootout" One would think that a training class would be required or at least set some standards of use, that is not so vague. But, I;m sure trial and error will take care of that.Many times I wished I had a camera...careful what ya wish for.
If you read the order it starts off saying its to protect the officer.... but of course!
The content goes to a website evidence.com. Only supervisors and above can access the footage on evidence.com
If this is for our "protection" then why can't we view the footage? I can understand us not being able to edit or erase the footage but we certainly should have access to view it.
The 007th District is rumored to get one body camera which will be permanently attached to Captain Bubblehead.
This way everyone can see what a standup guy he really is. LOL
Hey Bubblehead, where is the xmas gift you took collections for the LT's from 011 back in the late 90's????
One day you will get yours.
The real money is going to be in storing and cataloging all that video.
How long will it be stored for?
What's the size of the daily shift file?
What's the resolution?
What's the format?
Where's it going to be stored?
How's it get there?
Who's responsible for uploading it?
What's the process? Verifying the chain of custody and all that evidentiary stuff.
Is it subject to FOIA? What's the method of fulfilling those requests? Email? DVD? Something else? What's the cost?
How much bandwidth will the Dept/City require to handle all this video transmission to/from storage?
Who gets to review it, when, under what circumstances?
For what purposes can it be utilized?
Can it be edited? What assurances do you have that the video hasn't been tampered with? Is it encrypted? Is it watermarked with a temporal code?
Can the officer make an immediate copy of the shift video as a backup to guard against tampering and manipulation?
What if the camera is damaged or otherwise fails w/o the Officer's knowledge? Who has the burden of proof? What's the process for dealing with those situations?
How is this thing powered? Some kind of battery I suppose.
What's the battery weigh?
What's the lifespan? How do you know when the battery is at end-of-life?
How does it have to be charged?
How many charges can it hold?
How do you know it needs to be charged? Does it beep or flash a light at a potentially inappropriate or dangerous time?
What do the batteries cost?
What do the cameras cost?
How do they attach to the Officer?
What's the lifespan of the attachment point and method? (say it's velcro - that wears out eventually).
What's the cost of the attachment point and method? What's it weigh?
How do the cameras hold up in weather extremes? Cold? Hot? From one to the other rapidly? Does the lens fog up? What about rain?
What's the shock resistance rating? How many G's can it take?
How do you clean the lens if it becomes dirty from sweat, spit, or something else?
Is it a fixed focus or variable focus lens? How does one control that?
Lots and lots of questions here... I wouldn't volunteer for a damn thing...
You think those cameras can take selfies i can put them up on my tinder page.
Dugan and Patterson did well are they hiring CPD coppers?
http://www.amtrak.com/ccurl/962/895/Amtrak-New-APD-Command-Staff-in-CHI-ATK-13-055.pdf
The radio room guy/gal will be tearing their hair out trying to keep track of those things. Left in squad cars, taken home, given to partner while leaving a few hours early, one man car going home early and leaving it at desk that is about to change crews, prior radio room guy/gal fucking it up and so on and so on. And that is just at the District level of the whole complicated mess that will be part of the programs failure. I can see it working in some small department but good luck in Shitcago.
Don o'neill has sent many minorities down to call back with no reason. Rumor is the mayor does not care about personnel issues, they can sue. Lots of full duty and officers restored by police board are down there. So much for cops on the street..
Lights, camera, action!
Been hearing a lot of rumors that the 10.5 hr work day, will go citywide next year. It is terrible, if anyone has read the order for the "pilot program" it sucks. The hours are terrible, there is only going to be 2 watches. To top it all off, we work FIVE days in a row.... Yes 5 days on, 3 off. Everyone needs to start calling the union about this, unless they feel like working 52.5 hr weeks.
how about this. zero tolerance. all those people that we come in contact with that have no dl, a revoked or suspended dl, a bag a weed, residue and a straw or crack pipe, that open bottle of beer, all those people walking in the street. zero tolerance. sorry folks. my entire tour will be in the station writing tickets and processing arrests. everybody goes. you want to slap a camera on me then no more officer discretion.
Anonymous said...
I think this is awesome. Now the public can see how some of these animals really act.
1/21/2015 12:17:00 AM
Yes, this is your wish. But I would be willing to bet that the d epartment will not release this video for general consumption unless very serious and public allegations are made. The department will not even release 911 calls when just about every department in the country does so.
Anonymous said...
How about our politicians wearing these same body cameras 24/7. This way we can actually see and hear them making their corrupt deals as they happen. They would rather put this new burden on cops to make everything seem legit.
1/21/2015 07:05:00 AM
LOL. Why do you think the eavesdropping laws in Illinois are so strict? Not to protect the public but to protect the political class.
Is it true that there is no money in the 2015 budget for the hiring of new police officers?
Be careful out there with these cameras. The body cameras we have at crook county keep footage 30 seconds before and after you hit the start/stop button.
Put a camera in 005, 006, 007 where they be acting a fool out there show the real hood and gangsters and their families how crazy they act!
When a camera saves your butt during a lawsuit you'll realize it was a good idea. You should already remember to always act as of you're being recorded. If you have the camera, you'll know you always are...
No breaks every one is going to jail if one camera.
"Plenty of "suck-holes" in 014 to go around here."
From what I heard, not one person in 14 volunteered for this. So nobody is wearing them yet. Order has to be re-written, I am assuming to remove the word "volunteer".
Buy a pesonal body cam and double record.
1/21/2015 10:05:00 AM
Funny you mention that. Even though the order says these cameras are for our "protection" it strictly prohibits us from using our own body cams along with dept. cams.
WTF??
If it's for our "protection" I don't trust the city's equipment and I want extra "protection" by also using my own equipment.
(OT) all they put the innocent copper through in ferguson,obama last night mentioning that nonsense in the state of the union speech no charges guess holder could not get anyone to lie on that innocent copper who just did his job when attacked by a thug!
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/us/justice-department-ferguson-civil-rights-darren-wilson.html?_r=0
I retired less than a year ago. I hope this film will be available through Netflix. I need something new to watch.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
No breaks every one is going to jail if one camera.
1/21/2015 03:30:00 PM
Next time, try saying it in English.
I think everyone should view this article & video of a police shooting in New Jersey.
The camera does not lie, but the image can be blurry.
The offender served time, 13 years for att murder of the police, so the officer had a right to be in fear of his life.
http://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-man-shot-jersey-police-raising-hands-150049422.html?soc_src=copy
Will the W/C wear one at roll call or when I request a day off? Will I be able to record a roll call and an irate WC denying days off if there are no contact cards? Hmmm?
Oak Street Beach! Babe, here i come! roll that camera!
Night Club scenes!
OT:
Archbishop "Pooch" Cupich has decided to withhold subsidies from 6 NW side Catholic schools unless they consolidate.
We haven't heard a peep out of him criticizing Emanuel's blatantly discriminatory plan to give CPS students free city college tuition, while denying the same benefit to parochial school kids.
He's had a lot to say about illegal aliens and (mostly) non-Catholics slaughtering each other on the south and west sides.
Yet, he turns his back on the people who built Catholic Chicago.
Cupich, you are a true pooch for the corporate agenda and a lap dog for the evil Rahm Emanuel.
so do we get overtime for the hours we work past 40 hours a week? I will take 10.2 hours a week in overtime. Otherwise fuck the 10.5 hour days.
Been hearing a lot of rumors that the 10.5 hr work day, will go citywide next year. It is terrible, if anyone has read the order for the "pilot program" it sucks. The hours are terrible, there is only going to be 2 watches. To top it all off, we work FIVE days in a row.... Yes 5 days on, 3 off. Everyone needs to start calling the union about this, unless they feel like working 52.5 hr weeks.
Old 6 & 2'er said...Quit your bitching
Camera or no camera, I will continue to work. That is why guys on my watch call me "da working police". I do my job according to the book and so I have nothing to worry about. I am not scared of putting my hands on someone if I need to.
Anonymous said...
I think this is awesome. Now the public can see how some of these animals really act.
This type of video will never be released. The only video that will be released is the video in which YOU fuck up and can be disciplined, sued, or charged with a crime. These cameras will not be used for your benefit unless it's to stave off a lawsuit against the city.
The "public" doesn't want to see how the animals really act. They want to see how YOU act. They want to see YOU screw up. Have you not figured out yet that the public, politicians, and media hate us? I'm just glad I'm 2/3rds of the way done with my career. I'd hate to be coming on this shit as a young person now. This job is finished.
Anonymous said...
Word is 25th District Commander Mario Pena is ruining what was a great place to work. I would rather work wearing a camera then work for Mario.
You are wrong. The workers love her because she takers care of the workers. The dogs hate her because she calls them out and makes them accountable.
(OT) Meeks want 10.7% spending increase in education! Where does this idiot come up with 10.7%? Odd . 7? But then again an idiot cannot count great job Bruce! How about you fund the police pensions first you know money already owed instead of new spending! Meeks wants the family and friends plan us our money to hire more lazy thugs! 1 more year retired and moving from thus the most corrupt city/state/county in the country! Take my pension? Better make sure you keep your PROMISE Bruce to fund first responders pensions at 100%!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/chi-meeksled-education-board-wants-107-percent-spending-increase-20150121-story.html
Anonymous said...
how about this. zero tolerance. all those people that we come in contact with that have no dl, a revoked or suspended dl, a bag a weed, residue and a straw or crack pipe, that open bottle of beer, all those people walking in the street. zero tolerance. sorry folks. my entire tour will be in the station writing tickets and processing arrests. everybody goes. you want to slap a camera on me then no more officer discretion.
1/21/2015 02:06:00 PM
I like how you think. The only issue is most of our fellow coworkers won't be on board. But boy they will always be the first to complain.
O.T. - I was embarrassed for K.B at the FOP meeting. K.B. was irrational. K.B. forgot to tell Dean, at the meeting K.B. was one step away from a 501. Check the Chicago Police Board website in Dec. for K.B.'s case. It is the last case listed. 15 days is a kiss!
Take it, and run K.B. You are very lucky to have your job, considering past issues you have had.
Further, the FOP does not cover POs on off duty beefs, unless they are duty related.
P.S. - K.B. at the FOP meeting you forgot to tell the other members in the audience about the potential 501, and that you had your lady friend park the car.
PAY YOUR OWN LEGAL BILLS K.B.
Not to defend this goof but one should also take a look at this goof Po RY in 016. He will laugh in coppers face and write you a ticket. Beefs on coppers all the time! 016 lifer. Ask Po CW in 011. He kicked him off too in 016. Made a 10-1! Po RY a real stroke.
You have to inform that their being recorded.... nothing like warning some asshole that this moment is now for the record and he needs to practice for an Academy Award shot....
10 hour days are great!
Learn it! Live it! Love it!
OT:
U.S. Not Expected to Fault Officer in Ferguson Case
WASHINGTON — Justice Department lawyers will recommend that no civil rights charges be brought against the police officer who fatally shot an unarmed teenager in Ferguson, Mo., after an F.B.I. investigation found no evidence to support charges, law enforcement officials said Wednesday.
Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. and his civil rights chief, Vanita Gupta, will have the final say on whether the Justice Department will close the case against the officer, Darren Wilson. But it would be unusual for them to overrule the prosecutors on the case, who are still working on a legal memo explaining their recommendation.
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This was in the NY Times but certainly not the headlines of last summer. Not a peep yet fro Sharpton et al. Fucking hate mongering tax cheating wife cheating charlatans.
I don't know if it will matter. If people can lie about what they see with their eyes, they can lie about what a camera sees through its lens. The "Rodney King beating" was caught on camera but they edited it and willed it into what they wanted it to be. People who think like primitive children will have no trouble believing the Man has manufactured or doctored a video. To the O.J. Simpson jury, a video would have meant the same as DNA evidence - absolutely nothing.
If you read the order it starts off saying its to protect the officer.... but of course!
The content goes to a website evidence.com. Only supervisors and above can access the footage on evidence.com
If this is for our "protection" then why can't we view the footage? I can understand us not being able to edit or erase the footage but we certainly should have access to view it.
1/21/2015 12:25:00 PM
I agree. I know we are public servants and held to the higher standard and all that stuff... BUT- do we have any rights with regards to having access to at least view footage? If you are recorded you should have the right to view it. I know we aren't allowed during work hours to "privacy" yet if there is a recording should we not at least have opportunity to view it in a setting where it can't be altered or fucked with? Lawsuit if so?
since about 4pm today the city has blown up. 3 homicides and a 4th pending in 002 with a gsw to head. couple shootings in 011, 008, 009, 007, 004 and a few in 002. murders tonight so far in 002, 009 and 008. south side definitely representing tonight.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
how about this. zero tolerance. all those people that we come in contact with that have no dl, a revoked or suspended dl, a bag a weed, residue and a straw or crack pipe, that open bottle of beer, all those people walking in the street. zero tolerance. sorry folks. my entire tour will be in the station writing tickets and processing arrests. everybody goes. you want to slap a camera on me then no more officer discretion.
1/21/2015 02:06:00 PM
Couldn't agree any more. Let the city and the department see a slow down in operations when we do things "by the book" or by the "G.O's/ S.O's", etc... The days of tossing the nickel bag down the drain are done. When the same shit head you gave a break too makes a false beef, the recorded footage will exonerate to bullshit complaint, but the investigators WILL gig you on G.O/S.O. technicalities for failing to inventory the weed or generating a case report. When you strap a camera on me expect one of two things: 1. nothing or 2. no discretion in every encounter.
Fuk Rham Save Our Parks
Archbishop "Pooch" Cupich has decided to withhold subsidies from 6 NW side Catholic schools unless they consolidate.
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Sad and correct. The Ctholic Church has changed 1000 percent from the 50' and 60'.
Keep your faith like you were brought up but I feel the church' changes were not for the good.
Let not start on the priests and the alleged dark history, most of the claims were shake downs.
All CPD body worn cameras will transmit real time video and audio to the Project Shield network as soon as the FBI locates the missing Project Shield equipment.
They will be ordered to do it if no volunteers. If refuse then cr will be initiated per fop meeting today
GIVE RhamBo the Policing He wants
Do the minimum
event and vin sheet no traffic unless a crash no on view
And Smile all the way to the bank
how about this. zero tolerance. all those people that we come in contact with that have no dl, a revoked or suspended dl, a bag a weed, residue and a straw or crack pipe, that open bottle of beer, all those people walking in the street. zero tolerance. sorry folks.
Happily retired. Agree almost totally. Not with "Sorry folks" part.
The reaswon the police now have to wear cameras is because the media has whipped the public up to a point where the police are no longer trusted to use their discretion in a rational manner.
When I came on in the early 80's there was debate in the academy classes about whether there should be more rule making and less police discretion.
With the cameras, that debate is over.
4-6PM Rush hour parking: No soft times on that anymore. From 1601 hrs to 1759.
Stop at stop sign means TOTAL STOP. No rolling thru.
Since the cameras sees all, there is no crime too small to enforce. The smallest break you give to a citizen may get you jammed up.
Oh well, too bad folks. Got what you wanted.
Anonymous said...
Word is 25th District Commander Mario Pena is ruining what was a great place to work. I would rather work wearing a camera then work for Mario.
You are wrong. The workers love her because she takers care of the workers. The dogs hate her because she calls them out and makes them accountable.
No, you are wrong... Don't let her spout her nonsense about taking care of the workers. You'll see, everyone will eventually get screwed by her and her pursuit to move up the ranks.
For the people saying that finally the public will see how the animals behave, are you that naive thinking the public cares or will not see the edited version that the copper was in the wrong and the aggressor. Anyone who has watched in the news or read CNN's site in the last decade or two, and double especially since Ferguson, the only wrong evil doer is the police in the public's eye, and will get worse. Remember, no one takes blame anymore and the police will always be blamed for every little thing and anything that goes wrong in society, if you don't know this you are not the real police or never worked as a uniformed cop. Zero personal responsibility is the new fashionable thing. Instead of people berating comments of expressing reality, why don't the same people who are so pro-camera (like our FOP Dean) on the police wear one themselves, not for a day or a week, but the next 10-20 years of their career. The only supporters of the people who want us to wear them or feel indifferent are the ones who actually don't or can't wear them cause they retired, desk dollies, or command staff behind a desk. How about the Tact teams wear them, how about all those secretive squirrel squads out there wear them, the Gold stars? After all, they are the ones with zero accountability, right? But no, the department wants to force them on actual uniformed patrol officers in marked squad cars, the ones that actually are the least able to perform misconduct on duty since we have "police" insignia everywhere on us, with fancy name tags, star #s, and vehicle #s printed everywhere. And for the people talking trash about the post about wearing electronics all over, are you also naive that PDT signals, cell phones in vest pocket next to their heart, hand held radios, GPS, In-car camera microphones, and now these satan cameras, have any effect on your internals and health, and their concerns should be minimized? Get off Grandpa, I'm surprised you can get on this website with your Texas Instruments computer, because in your day 50 years ago, you beat people with immunity with a stick and a gun, with nothing else on your tool belt. Ask anyone who has it worse, the cops of the yesteryear or todays? The cops today actually are being crucified all over the country, and are being sent to prison for mistakes when they were rewarded for the same things a half a decade ago. Everyone hates cops, and anything to give the public more ammunition is far from a good thing.
How can the dept get away with making you work 50+ hours a week???????
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The 007th District is rumored to get one body camera which will be permanently attached to Captain Bubblehead.
This way everyone can see what a standup guy he really is. LOL
Hey Bubblehead, where is the xmas gift you took collections for the LT's from 011 back in the late 90's????
One day you will get yours.
1/21/2015 12:26:00 PM
It's in the same place that the 011 District tact Flower fund, pop fund and sweatshirt fund are, in some bookies pocket.
Not a cop.They want you to wear cameras.Then all public officials should have to wear one.
So wear it and never turn it on, problem solved.
ull be fired
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Anyone know if there have been studies on all this electronic shit on our bodies? I mean we have dept radio, body cameras and cell phones now all emitting radiation. Whats next? Cameras on our guns? Might as well put us in a microwave and hit start.
1/21/2015 12:41:00 AM
You spend more time at home than at work. Get rid of your microwave,your cell phones,TV's,etc
Might point is worry about something that is worth worrying about, not this crap
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No, he has a legitimate concern. You probably don't understand it since you work inside and don't have to wear none of this shit.
1/21/2015 06:39:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Word is 25th District Commander Mario Pena is ruining what was a great place to work. I would rather work wearing a camera then work for Mario.
You are wrong. The workers love her because she takers care of the workers. The dogs hate her because she calls them out and makes them accountable.
1/21/2015 06:42:00 PM
Signed, Mario Pena
As a supervisor I telling all mynguys if they want to meet to ask any questions they have to meet inthe batchroom, this way the camera can be turned off without any problems. The supervisors officer is being relocated into the batchroom which is fitting since this dept is inthe toilet........
Remember people these camera record at all times, just like the in car camera whe you hit the button it just indexes the recording 30 seconds prior to activation but it records constantly ........
Watch what you say to members at fop meetings....
People are informing supt office and internal affairs. Fyi
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Yeah, it's called Dean Angelo. The reason it's filmed is for the mayor. It's called "new world order." We've been infiltrated
DeaNo and *Jr gots to Go!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Archbishop "Pooch" Cupich has decided to withhold subsidies from 6 NW side Catholic schools unless they consolidate.
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Sad and correct. The Ctholic Church has changed 1000 percent from the 50' and 60'.
Keep your faith like you were brought up but I feel the church' changes were not for the good.
Let not start on the priests and the alleged dark history, most of the claims were shake downs.
1/21/2015 10:30:00 PM
Many people hoped for a Catholic Pope this time; instead we got a Jesuit.
And for Archbishop of Chicago we got a nitwit who likes to tell jokes from the pulpit. He is a joke.
Take 3 deep breaths and say -
It's SHOW TIME...............
(remember the cop flick with Eddie Murphy & Robert DiNiro?)
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...I wonder why 005,003,007,004,006 were not prime candidates for this. the game is changing fella's1/21/2015 05:18:00 AM
So you want 005 to be a pilot for the body camera and the 10 hour days???? Really dude!!! Like we don't have enough to deal with in that dist. Share the wealth
1/21/2015 10:21:00 AM
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005 is really fucked...
1. 10 hours days
2. Piggot is gonna be porking his snout into business and oinking around.
3. body cams are a coming
sound like a fucked up 1980s Cop show
Everyone beefing on Commander Pena needs a reality check. How can you get mad at someone who calls you out on being a dog? How can you drive around all day and not do one bit of police work? You show up and do nothing all day then you're no better than a shameless welfare recipient. Have some pride in your job!! We make a lot of $$ compared to the rest of our neighbors.
You are wrong. The workers love her because she takers care of the workers. The dogs hate her because she calls them out and makes them accountable
You need to remove your head from her ass! How does she take care of you? She lets you burn your time? She gave you a beat car? Oh, your on management, a real kiss ass! I hope she "takes care of you" when you screw up AND YOU WILL. Shortly after she won't know your name! Enjoy your pending 10-1 party! I won't buy a ticket!
Anonymous said...
Archbishop "Pooch" Cupich has decided to withhold subsidies from 6 NW side Catholic schools unless they consolidate.
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Sad and correct. The Ctholic Church has changed 1000 percent from the 50' and 60'.
Keep your faith like you were brought up but I feel the church' changes were not for the good.
Let not start on the priests and the alleged dark history, most of the claims were shake downs.
1/21/2015 10:30:00 PM
The Catholic church has a dark history throughout the ages...put down your rosary beads and do just a little bit of historical research and you won't have very much 'faith' left in it.
Anonymous said...
Good citywide March 1 including narcotics,vice,airports they are trying to eliminate overtime no more VRI effective 15march also it was good while it lasted,maybe rahm wants the 100 million from VRI to go into the pension that's and idea "we can believe in"!
Also, they are cutting our pay, body cameras must be worn 24/7 (on and off duty)... it's from a great source and its on a blog so it must be true!!!!
The city and evidence.com are asking PO's to sign a contract with evidence.com. Is that kosher??????
As a supervisor I telling all mynguys if they want to meet to ask any questions they have to meet inthe batchroom, this way the camera can be turned off without any problems. The supervisors officer is being relocated into the batchroom which is fitting since this dept is inthe toilet........
1/22/2015 01:00:00 AM
I think the problem your guys have is you as their supervisor..
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The city and evidence.com are asking PO's to sign a contract with evidence.com. Is that kosher??????
1/22/2015 10:59:00 AM
Sign it and you're an idiot.
So let's say that these officers start wearing these cameras. They wear them day in, day out. We see white people, black people, latino people, all interacting with the police. Which interactions will be publicized the ones where white people go ape shit on the police or the ones where blacks and latinos go ape shit. Just wondering.
Why don't they put the cams in fast districts on a hot firday night in the summer when its also the 1st of the month? Then release some footage to the press so people can really see how the animals act out there.
The city already has a matrix out for tact and sat teams canceling their days off through March so I don't think your VRI cancellations are true bud
Anonymous said...
The city and evidence.com are asking PO's to sign a contract with evidence.com. Is that kosher??????
1/22/2015 10:59:00 AM
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Why don't you read the contract and understand what it says before you ask if the contract is valid. The best and the brightest are on the job!
The cameras don't make police less likely to use physical force on people. They make people less likely to use physical force on police.
Police respond to the way people behave. Compliance results in compliance. Force results in force
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Tell that to the officer who was recently MURDERED while wearing his body camera. Oh yeah, I guess he nor the offender got the memo!
016 dist. section 8: You are absolutely 100% correct. What is it with that guy, those two situations were almost identical. We don't need d-bags like that to worry about off duty too.
" body cameras on their headgear "
Wait, this won't work for me. I have my hair gelled up - no way am I wearing a headgear
The Catholic church has a dark history throughout the ages...put down your rosary beads and do just a little bit of historical research and you won't have very much 'faith' left in it.
1/22/2015 07:50:00 AM
I left that cult 20+ years ago. Never looked back
Shut up Pena!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Watch what you say to members at fop meetings....
People are informing supt office and internal affairs. Fyi
1/21/2015 12:24:00 AM
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This is nothing new. It's a shortcut to meritorious.
Rahm Wants Cameras Dean Say YES
Dean Wanst you to Vote for Rham
Who's getting screwed
The cameras don't make police less likely to use physical force on people. They make people less likely to use physical force on police.
Police respond to the way people behave. Compliance results in compliance. Force results in force
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Tell that to the officer who was recently MURDERED while wearing his body camera. Oh yeah, I guess he nor the offender got the memo!
******ELECTION PLOY by Rahm*******
Vote for any one but Rham
Cameras donated by Hillard's friend Taser INC
All BS
Silver lining: hopefully wearing the cameras will make it harder for the state's attorneys to blow off agg batt to PO charges.
The city and evidence.com are asking PO's to sign a contract with evidence.com. Is that kosher??????
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Hi People, Missy back here again and ready to help out on this. It' you people who will be wearing to make our citizens feel more confortable with you patrol people.
Must of you know I am not the parking guru anymore and Gia took my spot helping our mayor get out of debt. She is still trying to do 150 a day and I had to leave headquarters to show her how to get those great numbers in. My uncle Tom got me moved to help the dept start up these great helping hands in filming your close encounters -stops.
I will be at all the districts using these high tec- helpers and you can freely sign away after your sgt tells you where to sign. It all for protection of you people, sgt' like me and all bosses know a lot more then patrol people and just sign the sheet, we are your leaders. We will keep a copy for you because the company does not allow making a copy.Respect me and I will answer all your questions.
I bet you people missed me but I beeen busy being a good Sgt and helping with these cameras to help you people.
For those who visited me at
ST-ROgers hospital when I got hit writing parkers two years ago I have not sent the thank you cards out yet. I was happy to come back to be a merit sgt to carry on all the good work I did.
Well got to study for being a Lt by spring and then I will be someoes commander. Uncle Tom said I will make workers out of patrol peole like I am.
Missy - Camera guru !!
C'mon people relax and lets all learn from the red light camera quagmire where the citizens armed themselves with programs like trapster for defense and the city didn't make as much money as they thought they were going to. Soon they will be arming themselves with anti-camera technology(i.e. strobes)and you can flush this whole stinkin' topic down the toilet! Think positive!
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