Airbag....for a Bullet
This is about the dumbest thing we've ever seen:
- The maker of a gun attachment called The Alternative has just wrapped up his company’s first-ever police training for the device, with the police department in Ferguson, Missouri, which is considering buying it, six months after a police officer shot and killed unarmed 18-year-old Michael Brown.
Christian Ellis told Here & Now’s Robin Young that The Alternative makes a bullet less lethal by slowing it down and trapping it. He says more than 400 agencies and police departments have expressed an interest in it.
Former New York City police officer and prosecutor Eugene O’Donnell says police have been searching for a reliably non-lethal weapon to prevent lethal encounters with suspects. But he isn’t convinced that The Alternative gun attachment is the answer.
This is going to get some copper severely injured...or worse. How many police shootings only use one bullet? And if you've got your gun out pointed at someone, it's often past the point that "less than lethal" applies.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
70 Comments:
Why the shortened and edited video? The real video is about a min or two longer. If there is a less than lethal situation it's not bad. If you ask me better than the taser. Shot the less than lethal round and your gun is already out and ready with a live round chambered if a weapon is produced.. No need to reholster a taser and then redraw your pistol which can take valuable seconds. Is it rediculous what policing has come? Yes. Is this a decent idea? Yeah it could be used effectively In CERTAIN situations
Oooo! WOW!! You can mount a damn flashlight on it!! Great! But can it eliminate a threat? Good grief! What world am I living in where the bad guys have the weapons and the cops have bean bag guns?
Fucking insane...
Which hair-on-fire progressive libtard collective is funding/fronting this nonsense?
"Less Lethal" except to the poor slob of a copper forced to carry this silly-assed thing.
This is the big step toward the progressive libtard wet dream of saddling The Police with a legally and administratively mandated "Duty To Retreat" in the face of shithead opposition...
"Awwww HELLLL NAWWWW!
Git dey badge numbah an' shit!
Dey wuz s'posed to back up an'
leave us alone! We finna got a
cee-arrah numbah on y'all ass
then we gon' sue!"
Yet another sad, sorry, useless assed dee-vice that infers that it is the Police themselves who are the problem.
Excuse me sir do you mind standing still while I load another dildo onto my firearm so I don't kill you?
Future authorized weapon for police, Nerf guns.
But after someone gets poked in the eye with a nerf bullet, they will just pop out part way with a loud bang sound
When the department pays for my weapon then I'll attach a turd of shit if they want. Until that day I'm blowing a hole the size of a fifty cent piece in their chest.
The Ferguson City Council and PD are running scared. They are desperate for anything-ANYTHING to prevent the police from killing the next thug. The thugs already burnt out too many businesses.
The city learned their lessons. Anything to show "We got our minds right Cap'n." They already threw Darren Wilson under the bus, and ran him and his wife out.
I wanna fancy new holster issued to me and a potato. I will throw the potato at the bad guy since it's less lethal because it seems like this is what it's coming to nowadays. Making a gun less lethal is such an oxymoron. It's a fucking gun. It's supposed to be lethal. A potato is less lethal though. And if I cook it for a few minutes it will be a soft potato and even less lethal and less likely to leave bruises cause I'm sure I'll get sued for leaving you bruises now instead of bullet holes. Who thinks this shit up. Unreal!!!
We're not a bunch of no brain trigger pumping morons shooting for no reason! This is BULLSHIT and will get officers killed!
The most ridiculous thing about this nerfball, this rubber Bozo-nose for your pistol, is that it was rolled out in the context of Ferguson, MO. As I understand it, the 300-pound, 6' 8" "Gentle Giant" there dived into the squad and grappled with the officer for his service weapon in a desperate struggle. Finally got some holes put in him, backed off a bit and realized, "Motherf__er SHOT me!" -- then put his head down in rage and charged AGAIN, positioning himself nicely for the final round to the vertex, the one that dropped him.
"One seldom needs a pistol, but when one needs it, one needs it very badly indeed."
So here it is, the obvious product of someone messing with CAD/CAM software and a 3-D plastic printer. See, you can rotate it on the screen, and it looks really cool from this angle, that angle...
The ghetto ideal of "Din hafta shoot him so hard," made real and popping busily out of a molding machine in China, headed straight for The Museum Of Bad Ideas. The files of the U.S. Patent Office are full of gimcracks like this.
Materials like this can split -- a little nick or cut will create a "stress concentration," and the tear will start from that point. The stuff can change over time, too. What if that slug goes right on through there on impact? Li-a-bil-i-ty. One failure and there goes this little enterprise.
What next -- a toilet plunger accessory? "Unbreakable engineering polymer cup fits Glock, SIG, S&W..."
"Stand back, Honey. I'll fix it good."
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"Over 400 departments have expressed interest." That's undoubtedly from up in the office, not coming from anyone who works the street...
I disagree, say you get on of those mentally unstable persons or just a punk that begins walking towards you unarmed, and says, "well shoot me than mother fucker". In this case you say, "OK and hit him with the big orange ball". You can take a real followup shot very quickly. The key to this is weapons proficiency and training. Not shooting your gun once a year at qualification. It is just another tool, but watch out, Anita may prosecute you just like the officer with the bean bag.
THEY are carrying, or looking to carry more lethal rounds. WE are looking to diminish the effectiveness of our rounds.
Does anyone see a problem with this?
The people of this country can suck my balls.
I thought that was what the tazer was for.
Wow. I was always just joking when I said in a few years they'll give us squirt guns and take away our real guns. Looks like we may be on our way to that scenario. Criminal lives matter more than police lives in today's society.
Looks like the "warning shot" to me. Immediately followed by the double tap.
Exactly how does one install this device while an oversized thug is trying to wrestle your weapon away?
I think all police should use this alternative just as soon as the criminals use this alternative.
So ignore all the verbal judo or the control tactics as the precursor to lethal force. This turns your weapon into a bean bag gun, which can still kill ( RIP Mr Wrana). Plus, it's going to take how long to put that contraption on your weapon, during the few milliseconds that you need it?
How about they spend the insane amount of money to buy and train their officers on holding parenting classes or, if your a secular liberal progressive, abortions to really institute some hope for the future by changing the THuG mentality.
Any police officer that takes part or agrees to this attachment needs to seek mental therapy.
They should just give us a rape whistle and a wooden gun like in the "Other Guys".
poopourri was the best!
More pandering to the liberal low information Starbuvks drinking element of our society.
and we start putting scumbags up in four star hotels instead of unpleasant correctional facilities when?..........
And this fits in a gun holster how?
That is the most asinine thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Only from the deranged mind of a liberal could such a concept even see the light of day.
Liberalism truly, truly is a mental disorder. If they walk around thinking as they do, they are insane. No concept of reality, only of the way things should be in a utopian fantasy world, and they are not institutionalized? It's pure madness that we allow them to walk among us and even elect them to office. How much longer will they be allowed to poison the minds of our children? Shame.
I didn't know there was a time out to change weapons for you guys. What a joke
Useless! Just show the offender a job application. Offender's eyes will immediately scroll upwards into head and he will become catatonic, falling over like a mighty redwood in the forest. Gently roll over, Handcuff, search and process for best flavor. That's the microwave directions anyway! For 2 offenders, repeat the above directions. Just pay separate processing and handling.
You have to admit, it would be fun to shoot them with it.
i don't carry a taser and your not touching my gun!i draw a weapon it is a gun.A GUN FOR US HAS TWO PURPOSES TO KILL OR TO QUALIFY! ENUFF SAID!!
Follow up shots are always necessary!
This is the p/c p/c--politically correct pistol condom.
The range guys have lots of stories about gun with cracks or they have blow up.
What kind of added pressure will this put on the gun?
A semi-auto pistol already has three potential risks for failure: Bad ammo, Bad magazine, or a problem with the weapon itself. Strapping a device to the barrel of a gun that wasn't designed for it is just adding another chance of failure.
What a complete moron Christian Ellis is from Alternative Ballistics. He and that spineless Ferguson Police Chief Al Eickhoff, and all moron bosses and idiot coppers who want to use this have their head up their ass. The reason an officer draws his weapon and fires at a dangerous offender is to save his OWN LIFE,or another OFFICER'S LIFE or LAW ABIDING CITIZEN'S LIFE! We officers want to go home our families. Oh, by the way, we don't shoot our weapon at dangerous offenders to kill, we shoot until the threat is over! If the offender dies in the process, OH WELL! he should have thought about that before breaking the law or trying to do the officer harm. I am not staking my life on some piece of mechanical shit when some dangerous felon is trying to harm or kill me. I owe it to my family and loved ones not to use this moronic device.
In Missouri, you get licensed to be the police and then you shop your resume around to different department throughout the state.
If this is implemented, I foresee most of the Ferguson PD moving on to a better, more sane, police department.
Didn't it take 6 shots of REAL bullets to bring down "the gentle giant"? Take 1 shot with this and RUN the other way. Idiots.
So lemme get this right. I'm Ina high stress situation, I draw and point my weapon at this shithead, reach down to my belt with my weak hand and PLACE MY HAND IN FRONT OF THE BARREL OF MY LOADED HANDGUN TO ATTACH THIS BOZO BALL AT TBE SAME TIME THIS SHITHEAD IS SCREAMING AT ME AND COMING AT ME??
What could possibly go wrong?
I've got a better idea. Why don't they just issue us one bullet to be carried in our shirt pocket.... just like Barney Fife and Mayberry RFD.
You didn't hear?
The flop agreed to this in the contract!
You get one when you pick up your body camera and new car!
Just remember " we ain't gonna get any better"
What a fuckin joke!!!!! Try to install on your weapon under stress, you will shoot yourself in the hand!
Sign me up when they come out with the exploding, fragmentation round.
Didn't police have a non lethal weapon, but the libtards took them away? They were called BATONS!
I wanna fancy new holster issued to me and a potato.
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Just use the potato as a silencer.
Don't these idiots know what happened to that guy who was shot with the bean bags?? He died. This thing could do the same so why bother putting that thing on your gun and cut to the friggen chase
I really believe we will all be disarmed by the time I retire with 29 and a day. 5 more till 20 though not close on the age. when the guns are gone, I'm gone.
I just watched demolition man and sadly we are on the road to that silly bullshit. I'd be fined for this post.
Hold on sir while I call a timeout so I can put this device on my gun to hurt you instead of killing you. Would you like me to buy you a vanilla latte while you wait?
Forget the tasers I want Mr Happy to come with me on my jobs just like in the movie Casino.
Look what they did to my hand man!!!
All right, I'm gonna give you a choice. You can either have the money and the hammer or you can walk out of here. You can't have both. What do you want?
818am...my thoughts precisely. I already don't care for the size of my light bearing holster....nothing on the market is gonna hold that contraption. Even of it did it won't be in mu go bag. Who trains to take single shots anyway?
Yea take more weapons out of our hands. If our dept even thinks of doing this, I'm suing for unsafe work environment. This whole country is going to shit.
what if you drop it in the snow? then what? hang on sir, let me re holster this and un holster my taser, stand still.........
Oh, so while some geeked up 300lb thug is leaning into the squad car for a sucker punch to the head with intent to disarm, let's attach this gizmo so not to cause a fatal injury to a poor defenseless assailant.
#StickitUpYourAssMatters.
Reminds me of those cork pop-guns we used to play with as kids.
(Yeah I'm that old, like Roy Rogers, The Lone Ranger, Hopalong Cassidy and Sky King old.)
This is a bad idea.
This will go away the first time this gadget fails and it kills someone and the "victim's" estate sues the manufacturer.
Lets issue everyone wrist rockets and marbles...
So the idiot that came up with "snitch boxes" has another brainstorm.
And it has an orange tip so people know it's not a 'real gun'.
OK....
We had a similar system back in Englewood in the early 80's. Herb Murphy (god rest his soul) was very proficient with it and 99% of the jagoffs gave up shortly after he deployed it! It was called a warning shot!
Just arm us with paint ball guns. The pain of a welt will stop crime in its tracks!
Silliest thing I've ever seen in over 30 years of police service!
I can hear the ghetto cry now " they didn't have to airbag shot him they coulda just tazed him or pepper sprayed him"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We had a similar system back in Englewood in the early 80's. Herb Murphy (god rest his soul) was very proficient with it and 99% of the jagoffs gave up shortly after he deployed it! It was called a warning shot!
2/09/2015 10:35:00 PM
Was there with Herb, that system worked wonders, RIP Herb!
A slingshot and a cue ball sized piece of deeply funky, half frozen shit tied off in some plastic wrap...
Twang!
WHAP!
"@$#%! m/fer shot me with SHIT? OWW! That hurts!
I surrender!"
Anonymous said...
We had a similar system back in Englewood in the early 80's. Herb Murphy (god rest his soul) was very proficient with it and 99% of the jagoffs gave up shortly after he deployed it! It was called a warning shot!
2/09/2015 10:35:00 PM
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And Herb had that cut down carbine (think it was a Mini-14). When he got out of that wagon with that, it also chilled them out. And he always had his hat on..And if those didn't work, he had one of the bat-shit craziest partners on the face of the Earth.
RIP Herb.
An Old Englewood Ranger
OK...everybody think about every time you went to the range from Day One in the Academy.
Think about every shooting drill we ever did. I am a Revolver Cop and I don't think that one important thing every changed in all those years since we stopped using the Harpers Ferry Flintlock Pistol.*
Revolver or Semi-auto, I was always trained to do a triple tap...
POP! POP! > TWO TO CENTER MASS...
POP! > ONE TO THE HEAD...
Now would they try to undo all those years of training and the natural instinct of trying to stop charging assailant with multiple shots.
* The crest of crossed Harpers Ferry Pistols is the symbol of the Military Police.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We had a similar system back in Englewood in the early 80's. Herb Murphy (god rest his soul) was very proficient with it and 99% of the jagoffs gave up shortly after he deployed it! It was called a warning shot!
2/09/2015 10:35:00 PM
Was there with Herb, that system worked wonders, RIP Herb!
2/10/2015 07:42:00 AM
Herb was a great guy."Murphy"....and black as coal.RIP Herb.
Bt 720(The white 720)
>>>Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We had a similar system back in Englewood in the early 80's. Herb Murphy (god rest his soul) was very proficient with it and 99% of the jagoffs gave up shortly after he deployed it! It was called a warning shot!
2/09/2015 10:35:00 PM
Was there with Herb, that system worked wonders, RIP Herb!
2/10/2015 07:42:00 AM<<<
OK RIP Herb...
But I always found that a warning shot just made them run faster.
Feets don't fail me now!!
Another thing, would this AIRBAG gadget require that we use a special round, sub-sonic round like we used to carry years ago when we were first allowed to carry semi-autos. That was lousy ammo.
I prefer the shotgun taser. Shitheads fear the taser, imagine how they would like a shotgun propelled taser cartridge. Oh that's right we can't carry shotguns in cars.
Meanwhile.......Soft-on-crime policies leading to more crime? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/10/soft-on-crime-policies-leading-to-more-crime/
Can we have real batons instead of those garbage-wood things with a thin coat of cheap shellac?
What?
Those are going to have airbags too?
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