Whoa? Another Study??
Does no one ever ask street coppers their opinion? We could save the tax payers billions:
- As overcrowding and budget shortfalls plague U.S. jails, the response increasingly has been to go softer on sentencing.
But that trend is raising concerns that the jails are only feeding the problem, releasing criminals who in turn go on to commit more crimes.
Washington state's King County is the latest to consider a softer approach to crime. County Executive Dow Constantine recently announced that if judges, prosecutors and public defenders can't figure out a way to speed up the time it takes criminal defendants to go from arrest to trial, he'll institute a "book-and-release" policy.
"That would be an absolute last resort," Constantine said. "But the fact is we have a capacity challenge and a financial challenge."
Washington state leads the nation in property crime, yet car thieves, package pilferers and home burglars rarely do any real time. Book-and-release would keep even more of the suspected criminals on the streets. People arrested for most property and drug crimes would simply be booked, given a court date to appear for arraignment and released. Even after their initial appearance, few would see a jail cell until they're convicted, if at all.
This sounds almost exactly like Cook County and IDOC problems with parolees and persons supposedly on "house arrest" going out, dealing dope, banging on the corners, getting they-selves shot and in more than a few cases, committing burglaries, robberies, rapes, aggravated batteries and :::gasp!!::: murders.
As you reduce (or eliminate) the time spent behind bars, the criminal realizes they pay no real penalty for their misbehavior. And if you reward bad behavior, you get more of it. Current sentences are like a temporary time-out for these scumbags -they get three hots and a cot, medical check ups, hours a day with TV or weights, and a learning environment on improving their criminal behavior. Plus, they won't usually get shot in the joint, so it's a relaxing trip all in all.
As you reduce (or eliminate) the time spent behind bars, the criminal realizes they pay no real penalty for their misbehavior. And if you reward bad behavior, you get more of it. Current sentences are like a temporary time-out for these scumbags -they get three hots and a cot, medical check ups, hours a day with TV or weights, and a learning environment on improving their criminal behavior. Plus, they won't usually get shot in the joint, so it's a relaxing trip all in all.
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posted by SCC at 1:04 AM
59 Comments:
It is the liberal/progressive thing to do. After all, criminals are merely the victims of society, and conservatives.
I wish they would get rid of the weightlifting. There is no way in hell a family man has the time to fucking spend hours in a gym and lift to compete with them when they get out. If the prisoners want to improvise, so be it. You can't stop them from doing push ups and sit ups, etc. but to reward them with weights?.? . We get hurt trying to arrest these mofo's , let alone a female trying not to be a victim. She doesn't stand a chance. Unless she's carrying.
Liberals love rewarding bad behavior. Just look at Ferguson, Mo where you have people rioting and barely anyone was arrested.
Liberalism is a mental disease where common sense is non existent, and ideas are all emotionally driven.
We need a Russian model of prison. The penitentiary is meant to be a deterrent, not a nice place to go.
Off Topic: 7th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of 5 coppers against Chicago Sun Times in a case involving Koschman death / Daley's nephew Vanecko. Ruled Sun Times violated a driver's records privacy policy law when it published personal info on 5 cops who served as "fillers" in the Vanecko line up. Cops should each get minimum $2,500 each, plus all attorney fees, etc. Glad to see that. Case is Dahlstrom vs. Sun times, #14-2295, can read it on 7th Circuit web site.
Why not a three strikes you're put to death for career criminals? They serve no useful or productive purpose.
Just put more body cameras on 14/3rd. That will solve the entire social decay problem. Oh, almost forgot, then deny more time due.
You can see all the Starbucks Coffee in Seattle has turned their minds into mush.
(OT) Jackie Robinson little league stripped of title they cheated will there be baseballs in the streets? Will jackson and sharpton tell them they cheated shame on this disgrace to the city! Will the adults be held responsible?
Will father flaky be labeling this racist?
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/02/11/report-jackie-robinson-west-stripped-of-national-title/
Liberal attitudes atrophy brain cells. Why do you think the Seahawks passed on the goal line?
Way off track- I just heard the Jackie Robinson little league team was stripped of their championship. It was by crooked ways that this team was put together, and the adults who were in charge knew it. Whats really sad is the legit teams eliminated due to this bullshit team. Every adult, including Parents, involved with this team are responsible for this hoax on the nation. Now, instead of showing society that inner city black kids can rise above and become winners, their own people( coaches,parents,managers)decided not to follow the rules and cheat. That's a great lesson taught to these kids by adults they respect. We do as we want, and fuck the rules. The city and the black community is again the laughing stock of the nation. And if I can quote a word from a mayoral candidate, Its not "whiteys" fault.
They allow contractors to run prisons, right? How about letting China , or some other no nonsense place in on the bidding? That or hire sheriff Arpaio to design some tent facilities?
instead of building DePaul basketball arenas, build more prisons....where does it seem like a good idea to release these animals...because to many of them like being locked up....
Great, now even the little league in Chicago is corrupt.
Well said SCC. Id like to start another petition to bring back the death penalty in illinois. That can help a tad with overcrowding. The answer for all this crime is never go soft but more strict on punishments. Shitheads will think twice. all shitheads i talk to on the street know crook county is easy on them and they know better than to fuck around outside of crook county.
OT: Is Garry still not working? Haven't seen or heard him in the media since his wedding. 6 weeks for a honeymoon is a bit long . Who is running the department? Is he out?
The soviet gulag system looks like the answer.
One would think that it would be in everyone's best interest to get trials moving along a lot faster than they do. That way the county would not have to pay to house potential felons in the county jail when they could be in the state pen, or at least the state would be paying to incarcerate then.
For minor offenses, it makes a lot of sense not to clog up the works if you can come up with some way of dealing with them that keeps them out of the courts.
(OT) Jackie Robinson little league stripped of title they cheated will there be baseballs in the streets? Will jackson and sharpton tell them they cheated shame on this disgrace to the city! Will the adults be held responsible?
Will father flaky be labeling this racist?
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/02/11/report-jackie-robinson-west-stripped-of-national-title/
2/11/2015 07:39:00 AM
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If memory holds true......The story was that 2 CPD members had children on the team. Was it them, and did they know? This story goes all the way to the white house. Remember the context of the win when placed as a backdrop to the alleged racism in Fergeson. The evil side (Democrats) played this up while berating Rebublican (also the enemy)conservative policing styles
New revised deadly force order stating if a moving vehicle is the only use of force used against a department member that they are not allowed to use deadly force.so being caught between a 3 ton weapon and a wall doesn't allow you to shoot.this department has now thrown you under the bus or car for that matter.Thank God papi seiser has shown me the way of the ninja so this need not apply to me as papa has had me dodging trains since I've been able to crawl.But knowing Seiser he'd go into leaning rest and perform a push up rather than jump out of the way of a vehicle,for remember when seiser does a push up he is merely pushing the earth down instead !
(OT) jackie robinson team gets caught and stripped of title as they recruited "ringers" from out of the area but now look what this aldersitter says
But Austin said "tarnishing the achievement" is a terrible idea.
"Here's something that united us as a city, as a nation, and you want to strip that on a technicality?" said Austin, who is running for re-election Feb. 24 against three challengers.
a technicality? err plain and simple cheated and were caught! what about all that large cash raised will it be returned? this is like a fake wedding we thought they married but they didnt!
hope there is a better investigation, what a farce! the kids that were out of the area the ringers did not know they were cheating the system? or were they so used to it that they did not notice? "parenting what a concept"!
Anonymous said...
Off Topic: 7th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of 5 coppers against Chicago Sun Times in a case involving Koschman death / Daley's nephew Vanecko. Ruled Sun Times violated a driver's records privacy policy law when it published personal info on 5 cops who served as "fillers" in the Vanecko line up. Cops should each get minimum $2,500 each, plus all attorney fees, etc. Glad to see that. Case is Dahlstrom vs. Sun times, #14-2295, can read it on 7th Circuit web site.
2/11/2015 06:28:00 AM
they also get a free sun-times lifetime subscription!
It's all the po-leece fault!
>Snicker!<
It's the way things are in Chicago...
Every failure and short-coming MUST have an easily identifiable boogey-man as the causative instead of the finger being pointed at the funky ass(es) that moved in furtherance to do the funky deed/commit the funky crime.
...Even the stripping of the Jackie Robinson West little league team (which was trotted hither/yon and exploited for cynical photo-ops by Rahm & Mistuh Brutha's Keeper) of their national title, will be blamed on myriad other things than the adults who ruined this experience for the kids.
This is so symptomatic of the top down, doing funky shit behind the scenes to affect outcomes that has percolated through every strata of life in Chicago.
Fuckery in the name of getting things "done" regardless of the cost and with a fools hope that
the funky deed goes undetected but with an ass pocket full of "so muthafuckin' what?" to tender when fuckery is revealed...
Suffer the little children?
"We can't compete, (AND WIN!) unless we cheat..."
How about leaving the cheating to the OTHER guys and y'all keep it on the square so these kids learn USEFUL lessons in life?
Watch for this thing to metastasize into something really ugly now that local media have taken their shoes off, blackened their faces and are now creeping through the house and pawing through everybody's (even the kids) panty drawers for some kind of "connection" to link this shit show to.
The targeted sub-demographic?
See how it plays out...
Off topic. I am curious. Is this citywide or just in the 009 District? Overtime is handed out almost nightly to an elite few ass kissers. They get to work an extra three hours on the end or an extra two on the front. This is not done on seniority basis. Do other Districts do this and is this legal per the contract?
The Jackie Robinson West team was strip of its championship status based on their coach’s decision to circumvent the established rules that everyone else is playing by. The narrative was a neighborhood of champions in a community with a daily backdrop of violent criminal lawlessness. Politicians such as Gov. Quinn, Mayor Emanuel , Prez O’Bama all put themselves in champion’s limelight and somehow associated themselves with their competitive ball playing successes.
The players and their families should receive accolades for a job well done. And deservedly so. The coach’s personal decision to ignore the guidelines which everyone must adhere to will be a dark cloud to the personal athletic accomplishments of the players. The lesson learned is failed leadership and the lack of ethical behavior of those in charge. I’m sure some responsible adults were aware of these infractions and failed to correct these wrongs. Inaction has led to tarnishing the good work of the players.
The kiss of death for the JRW baseball team was all the praise and association of ethically challenged leaders such as quinn, emanual and o’bama. They all love athletic competition, but when it comes to making policy through legislation and associated administrative law, they level the playing field citing preferences and set asides based on skin pigmentation, historical inequities, gender, orientation and the same strategies of the old, tired feel good divide and conquer playbook. Competition is only permissible in athletic endeavors but not permitted and subject to rigid government controls in all other avenues of everyday life.
The problem in the far south communities is that so many make the personal decision not to follow the rules, namely criminal laws putting them at risk of incarceration. These politicians won’t take credit for the eternal unemployment, crimes, murders, drug abuse, failed public school systems,etc., but are all in on taking credit for other’s successes which fits their narrative template and further promotes their personal image and credibility.
Lets outsource the criminal to Mexico , bet they could do a better job cheaper .
Cheaters should be stripped of all awards and recognition .
If Edison Park or Oakbrook cheated and beat jrll they would all agree
rules are rules
no little league is above the law
Anonymous said...
I wish they would get rid of the weightlifting. There is no way in hell a family man has the time to fucking spend hours in a gym and lift to compete with them when they get out. If the prisoners want to improvise, so be it. You can't stop them from doing push ups and sit ups, etc. but to reward them with weights?.? . We get hurt trying to arrest these mofo's , let alone a female trying not to be a victim. She doesn't stand a chance. Unless she's carrying.
2/11/2015 03:31:00 AM
I wonder, why give these assholes weights to workout while in prison? They have nothing but time and they get bigger and stronger while in jail. Only to come out with a bad attitude.
Three homicides in three days in 025. Shit is about to get real in 025. Let's do more aggressive patrolling and police work and we can curb the violence on the streets.
2/11/2015 08:44:00 AM
These racist race baiters will stop at nothing. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Father Fleger, etc. have no shame. None. Zippo. They can make a racial issue out of anything. As long as it advances their personal agenda.
One thing that has been eliminated in every correctional program in the country is mandatory work. Inmates just have nothing to do. Very few jobs exist behind the walls. I understand that the unions are responsible for this as they felt union jobs were lost.
Maybe it is time to investigate every little league team that made it to national play offs. If this is happening in Chicago it might be going on in other towns or countries. I watched every game and I was amazed at the size of some of these kids in other teams, especially the Korean team. Most of them looked like 18year olds.
I can't wait to watch Emanuel pander to JRW on the news tonight....
Gonna be a tough spin to pull off without looking like a completely shamelass asshole.
Liberals Suck!
To reinforce the time out comment posted earlier, I had an arrestee tell me he needed a "vacation" after being arrested for UUW while on parole.
They should stop having people sit in jail waiting to go to trial and the jails will not get overcrowded.
Burglars get early release,Since its a non violent crime,Ask the Parents of the 14 year old girl in Indian Head Park if that's a good idea.
off topic..............................
Commander Pena Update 025th District
2 weeks in and 025 is now probably the worst place to work. Her ludicrous ideas and hair brained schemes are going to turn 025 into one of the most difficult places to work.
Hey Sup, what were you thinking when you sent this merit heavy know nothing to a working district.
one of her early ideas because there is a spike in auto thefts, write the victim a ticket for unattended motor vehicle if their car is stolen while warming up in front of the house.
really ? add insult to injury.....and she said that applied to cars running with remote starts on them. apparently she has never had a car with remote start because if she did she would know its impossible to steal a car that's running on remote start.
I have been on the job less than 10 years but I have never not wanted to come to work since I have been in 025, well not until now....
she is in over her head but for some reason the super thinks she knows whats going on
time for a transfer, but I cant
anywhere but working for this know nothing misfit of a boss
010 I am sure you are glad she is gone
How about a study regarding if 50 aldermen are really necessary?
SCC, can we pull out the Herbie remix for the JRW team?
It's unfortunate that the boys on the JRW team have to endure the shame of being labeled as cheaters.
It's not their fault.
If only the Moms of these young boys had left their wedding dresses in the basements of homes within the JRW boundaries, then this whole residency issue would be a mute point! After all, it worked for Rahm.
So off topic here. JRW was stripped of their little league title. Ok. So Rahm basically says they are still winners but this was basically over a residency violation. Hmmmmmmmmm. So is Rahm saying residency is not important? SCC? Am I reading our mayor right?
Toni P, what say you?
Never mind, we know...
---No Cop Here
OT: I had to laugh; after finding out about the JRW Little League team being stripped of their championship for cheating, Emanuel phoned the league head to give him a piece of his mind. After all, Emanuel got into office despite HIS residency.
rb
They allow contractors to run prisons, right? How about letting China , or some other no nonsense place in on the bidding? That or hire sheriff Arpaio to design some tent facilities?
2/11/2015 08:49:00 AM
I think we should contract our prisons out to Mexico.
rb
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: I had to laugh; after finding out about the JRW Little League team being stripped of their championship for cheating, Emanuel phoned the league head to give him a piece of his mind. After all, Emanuel got into office despite HIS residency.
rb
2/11/2015 10:19:00 PM
How true, guess rahm can teach them a thing or more about how to cheat and get away with it! Let's hope rahm is not able to cheat himself back into office that would be a travesty, go fioretti!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
One thing that has been eliminated in every correctional program in the country is mandatory work. Inmates just have nothing to do. Very few jobs exist behind the walls. I understand that the unions are responsible for this as they felt union jobs were lost.
2/11/2015 03:14:00 PM
Why not like in other states chain gangs, they could of been out during this past snow shoveling out bus stops,mail boxes, etc!! Would make them tired and they would forced to be productive, to tired to fight that's a great idea how about it dart? Any puppy dogs to save today?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic. I am curious. Is this citywide or just in the 009 District? Overtime is handed out almost nightly to an elite few ass kissers. They get to work an extra three hours on the end or an extra two on the front. This is not done on seniority basis. Do other Districts do this and is this legal per the contract?
2/11/2015 01:14:00 PM
312-733-7776 call FOP that is what they are there for,then report back to the SCC newsroom thank you!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: I had to laugh; after finding out about the JRW Little League team being stripped of their championship for cheating, Emanuel phoned the league head to give him a piece of his mind. After all, Emanuel got into office despite HIS residency.
rb
2/11/2015 10:19:00 PM
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I heard one of the ringer kids on JRW actually had a wedding gown in a basement in a house in Morgan Park. That means he intended to live there for those that don't remember ,...
Here is more help to keep our prisons empty!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-macarthur-foundation-pledge-jails-20150211-story.html
off topic..............................
Commander Pena Update 025th District
2 weeks in and 025 is now probably the worst place to work. Her ludicrous ideas and hair brained schemes are going to turn 025 into one of the most difficult places to work.
Hey Sup, what were you thinking when you sent this merit heavy know nothing to a working district.
one of her early ideas because there is a spike in auto thefts, write the victim a ticket for unattended motor vehicle if their car is stolen while warming up in front of the house.
really ? add insult to injury.....and she said that applied to cars running with remote starts on them. apparently she has never had a car with remote start because if she did she would know its impossible to steal a car that's running on remote start.
I have been on the job less than 10 years but I have never not wanted to come to work since I have been in 025, well not until now....
she is in over her head but for some reason the super thinks she knows whats going on
time for a transfer, but I cant
anywhere but working for this know nothing misfit of a boss
010 I am sure you are glad she is gone
025 working dist? Please mo way is 025 are working dist
Anonymous said...
Off topic. I am curious. Is this citywide or just in the 009 District? Overtime is handed out almost nightly to an elite few ass kissers. They get to work an extra three hours on the end or an extra two on the front. This is not done on seniority basis. Do other Districts do this and is this legal per the contract?
2/11/2015 01:14:00 PM
Come to 019 where a Sgt friend of the Cmdr and his couple of minions are practically making Chief's pay due to the O.T. they are handed.
I see.
We've lost the "War on ALL Crime"
So let's just legalize all crime and tax it.
Off topic. I am curious. Is this citywide or just in the 009 District? Overtime is handed out almost nightly to an elite few ass kissers. They get to work an extra three hours on the end or an extra two on the front. This is not done on seniority basis. Do other Districts do this and is this legal per the contract?
I too am curious....are you always a little cowardly tattle tail??? Wah, wah, wah. Way too many of these people on the job nowadays.
Wait! I know. Get the Parolees some Pit Bulls, the kind that shows no mercy or allegiance to anyone. Might even be a tv show in there somewhere.
Anonymous said...
OT: Is Garry still not working? Haven't seen or heard him in the media since his wedding. 6 weeks for a honeymoon is a bit long . Who is running the department? Is he out?
2/11/2015 09:27:00 AM
If you miss him so much, google "Garry McCarty 2015'. He's made more than one appearance.
If he's not at work, count your lucky stars; maybe he's job-shopping in New York.
Isn't catch and release is when you catch a fish and let it go for the sake of the sport?
So book and release is a new sport?
Just axin
I too am curious....are you always a little cowardly tattle tail??? Wah, wah, wah. Way too many of these people on the job nowadays. Sounds like you are among the suckholes. We have unions for just that reason. To keep things fair even around shitheels like you.
Wait, what? Ask a BLUEshirt his/her opinion?
Surely you jest. Not since we were supposed to have a Blue Angels designation (CPD who had had EMT/nursing training) has anyone asked a BLUEshirt's opinion, nor do they care!
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