Good Point (And Another)
Building on the ACLU nonsense article from yesterday, this was brought up in the comments:
- All of the politicians and reverends want more police service in their districts. Guess what, you got it. This means more stops by police. Not so fast, now the ACLU says there are too many stops by police. Seriously. So lets get this straight you want more police In minority districts because that's where the violent crime is happening, but you dont want the police to conduct any police work? So what do you want? Why don't you think about that for a while and when you figure out what the f*ck you want you let us know.
Seems pretty simple. Ties into that, you have other blogs like "Crime In Boystown and Wrigleyville" pointing out the shortages in their communities and the subsequent rise in strong armed robberies, thefts and burglaries.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul and then Paul bitches he's getting too much of what he demanded while Peter foots the bill for services he isn't getting. Makes perfect sense.
UPDATE: And another good point by a commentator:
Robbing Peter to pay Paul and then Paul bitches he's getting too much of what he demanded while Peter foots the bill for services he isn't getting. Makes perfect sense.
UPDATE: And another good point by a commentator:
- So in 2011 the ACLU complained that there were not enough police in minority communities:
Now when police are disproportionately assigned to minority communities, they complain that the police are doing what they were sent there (at the request of the ACLU) to do. Typical lawyer logic.
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posted by SCC at 12:17 AM
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SunTimes Mary Mitchell actually had a good article, telling her people to stop complaining you got what you wanted. Won't help but interesting read.
They want the Police to make omelets Without breaking eggs
Well if makes sense in you live in a liberal run corrupt hellhole.
SCC, the reader/commentator who provided that link to the ACLU lawsuit about police services in minority neighborhoods deserves some kind of commendation for that link.
It was awesome.
Nice job.
Milwaukee Officer fired after being involved in legit shooting of a homeless man. Police answered the call of a homeless man and when conducting a protective pat down for their safety the homeless guy grabbed the officers impact weapon and started beating the shit out of the officer. Deadly/justified force was used which the city and police chief agreed. So why did they fire him? He was fired by the police chief because he wasn't authorized to search the individual on the initial contact. This is the final death of police work, answering a call and ensuring you are safe can now get you fired. Time to do what Clark Grizwald did in Vacation when he looks at the Grand Canyon, a quick nod acknowledging it's there and move on. "Yup squad, homeless guy in the park and I'm looking right at him, 19 Paul."
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/25/us/wisconsin-panel-upholds-firing-of-officer-who-killed-homeless-man.html?_r=0
Anonymous said...
Off topic- Anyone know if it's true former Ohare Tact BS now ruining the 22nd District tried returning 12 custom tailored Sgt uniforms to VCG but they wouldn't give a refund!! His money! He started screaming and 25 th District cops had to respond. Could someone tell him Daddy Dugan has no juice , he's not getting promoted!
3/24/2015 03:32:00 PM
He claims his number is in the 100's off this new test. So if true he wont need merit.
They want the police there to cast a magic spell on the area that will stop crime but not hurt the feelings of the residents....
The aclu is all about stirring up shit, especially around election time. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. More often than not, assholes are impossible to please.............
The media, who's bought and paid for by Rahm, fails to grasp this nor point it out.
Some want to police the police. Some want help only on their terms. How s that working out? Same people Will never address the real problems. Instead, will point somewhere else.
That's why... until someone grows a set of balls and stands up for themselves as a boss, I will continue to drive around, smile and wave!
Ive said it my ENTIRE career, lawyers are the scum of the earth, worse than the common criminsl...
Many of these stops are not justified. You never hear of these types of stops in 01
They all want their cake and eat it too.
I have an alternative for them.
EAT ME!
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
OT:
Where is POTUS and his water boy AG... do old white guys lives not matter????
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pa-charged-homicide-killing-unarmed-man-article-1.2161001
I do wonder though, is the cpd going to face a lawsuit over the contact cards issue? Just look at most of the contact cards. They are a joke. A bunch of officers in my district stop people and write up contact cards without even having any stated reason/reasonable suspicion. Some of these people are going to shoot themselves with their own foot.
Kind of reminds me of a situation where a large man died from resisting arrest on a measly loose cigarette law attempting to be enforced. Let's blame the guys enforcing it, not the guys and gals writing the law.
Moreover, there's state reps and aldermen calling for National Guard occupation on the South and West sides. What makes you think their presence will be any different than that of the guys in blue?
If you raised your children rather than just birthed them, they wouldn't be robbing and killing each other and your neighborhood would be crime free.
cant wait till the weather gets better
This is similar to the powder v. crack claim by leftists and blacks.
Send the crack dealers that target the black community away for longer sentences, and what do you get? Complaints from leftists and blacks that too many of their drug dealers are being sent to prison.
the problem is that they cant police them self. lemmings.
if your on welfare you should be on mandatory birth control.
The latest example of "damned if you do/damned if you don't" in our society. Cops and teachers get it the worst in my opinion. But God help us all if those professions start to disappear. And the lawyers just keep chiseling away...
I'll never forget when I worked in PHS 715. We saw one article in the Trib then another in the Sun Times. One talked about how the police were harassing the citizens of housing and cops were all over the place and were targeting minorities. I laughed as most of the cops in PHS were black and I was the minority. Then a few days later I saw an article in the other paper saying just the opposite. Cops are never in PHS because they don't care about us in PHS because we are minorities. I clipped the articles and had them side by side in PHS. Wish I still had them.
He got what he wanted (more police in minority neighborhoods) and now he doesn't want it. Well maybe Mr. Grossman you can see that you are a hypocrite. You, sir are the same as a dog chasing his tail, you go around and around in a circle but can never catch your own tail. You keep offering solutions and perceived injustices that do not have any common sense or intelligence used in arriving at these statements. Your organization should focus more on the real problems that perpetually manifest themselves. Lack of a family structure, lack of education, lack of moral, ethical, law abiding values and the biggest one, lack of the working for a living value that would enable your constituents to provide for themselves and their family. Parents don't raise their children they produce them and send them to the streets to be raised. By the way your disparity in stops is because of the cultural and self-reliant differences between Non-working class, non-school attending blacks compared to working class school attending whites. In the white residential neighborhoods there is nobody on the street, it’s like a ghost town on any given day or night because their time is occupied by going to school, participating in sports, doing homework or working to provide for their families or all of the above.. In the black residential neighborhoods there are always loads of people on the streets day or night because their only job or education is to hang on the streets. Idle time is the devils workshop. Failing to ingrain the proper parenting skills and work ethic into those you represent will provide your organization job security for an eternity as you keep ignoring these real problems, which seems to be your real goal. I think it’s high time Mr. Grossman that you take a page from our late great Mayor Jane Byrne and get an apartment in Austin District and experience the injustice first hand.
ACLU = Another Coif Likely Unemployable.
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Anonymous said...
Off topic- Anyone know if it's true former Ohare Tact BS now ruining the 22nd District tried returning 12 custom tailored Sgt uniforms to VCG but they wouldn't give a refund!! His money! He started screaming and 25 th District cops had to respond. Could someone tell him Daddy Dugan has no juice , he's not getting promoted!
3/24/2015 03:32:00 PM
He claims his number is in the 100's off this new test. So if true he wont need merit.
3/25/2015 02:50:00 AM
VCG is in 016.
There is absolutely no room for logic and reason in this discussion.
I thought contact cards were like warnings?
Off topic- Anyone know if it's true former Ohare Tact BS now ruining the 22nd District tried returning 12 custom tailored Sgt uniforms to VCG but they wouldn't give a refund!! His money! He started screaming and 25 th District cops had to respond. Could someone tell him Daddy Dugan has no juice , he's not getting promoted!
The guy ordered his sgt uniforms because he is 100 on the list? Without being called to start sgt training?
Anonymous said...
Many of these stops are not justified. You never hear of these types of stops in 01
3/25/2015 07:50:00 AM
Let guess, you are not a police officer? Well, you are somewhat correct. Some of these stops are not justified but are the result of youthful exuberance. I know I was guilty of the same thing. But, in very high crime areas the only thing that is keeping crime from being even higher are these constant stops. I have often said that we should give the ACLU and other complainers what they want. Take a high crime district, such as 6,7,10,11 and prohibit all Terry stops in that district. Run the program for a few months and lets see what we have? And, I don't mean do this in the dead of winter. Try it in July.
No, No, No!
Look over HERE!
Don't look over there.
The Obama/Holder/Sharpton police rule book has now become the bible for all police in the nation. Don't mess with Afro AMERICANS or lose your job. Blacks have become a Protected Class of citizens in America. Hands off or else. This case proves my point. Sad but true.
Any clues on who is going to be the new commander in 009?
Anonymous said...
Off topic- Anyone know if it's true former Ohare Tact BS now ruining the 22nd District tried returning 12 custom tailored Sgt uniforms to VCG but they wouldn't give a refund!! His money! He started screaming and 25 th District cops had to respond. Could someone tell him Daddy Dugan has no juice , he's not getting promoted!
3/24/2015 03:32:00 PM
He claims his number is in the 100's off this new test. So if true he wont need merit.
3/25/2015 02:50:00 AM
Why don't you just ask him? Seems you worry about him so much.
Let's do it have white only police white areas and double the amount of black to black areas and I'm sure that will work.
Murderers,Gangbangers, and drug dealers life's matter. Oh and child molesters.
Good, now take the vri people and reallocate them to tax paying areas of the city. They will be appreciated more in the tax paying areas of the city.
3/25/2015 01:52:00 AM
Despite all of the facts and knowledge of what is going on, some people will continue to be proactive.
They are so use to getting everything they want for free they also expect to have all the police resources in their communities but they don't want them doing anything I guess. If they think they can get $$$$$ by crying foul they will. By the way...Plenty of white people are stopped on the west side buying dope from the wonderful residents of that community.
Stop stopping dummies.
With the upcoming district re-allocations for the Summer in the Ghetto Program, the KompfStät meetings must sound like the Abbott & Costello routine "Who's On First".
Do the DC's know where their po's are going and who's coming, no comment from 41st Ward...ever.
– Dump Rahm & O'Connor.
VCG in 016, ass.........
A once proud department dying at the hands of the AMerican liberal.
Ah .. alas ... we realize the true threat to this nation is not the black, they are simply struggling - fair enough - just don't blame everybody else - and we are on your side brothers - the true threat to the American experiment, is, and always has been, the liberal white male. Yes, we shall overcome my friends.
Signed,
A white male detective
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Anonymous said...
Off topic- Anyone know if it's true former Ohare Tact BS now ruining the 22nd District tried returning 12 custom tailored Sgt uniforms to VCG but they wouldn't give a refund!! His money! He started screaming and 25 th District cops had to respond. Could someone tell him Daddy Dugan has no juice , he's not getting promoted!
3/24/2015 03:32:00 PM
He claims his number is in the 100's off this new test. So if true he wont need merit.
3/25/2015 02:50:00 AM<<<
I'm retired but isn't VCG on the 5000 Block of W. Irving Park Road and in the 16th District. Someone southsider is shooting his mouth off...
Off topic:
Did you read that Rahm wants to name either Midway or O'hare airports after Obama?!!!!
His exact quote was "We have have two airports named after battleships."
This guy is so out of touch, loyal only to money and Israel. What educated American of his age, doesn't know about the Battle of Midway.
A brief history lesson
Butch O'HARE was a real Chicagoan and an American hero. He was the first ace in WW2 and was awarded the Medal of Honor. He is credited with single- handedly attacking 9 Jap. bombers and shooting down five, thus saving his own aircraft carrier. A carrier that we desperately needed for the upcoming battle of Coral Sea.
MIDWAY ISLAND was the turning point in the Pacific. It was a time when America had lost all battles against the Japanese. At Midway "we" stopped the Japanese advance cold, and we never lost a battle to them again.
America desperately needed good news in the Pacific, and those brave men made a stand all Chicagoans/ Americans should always be proud of. (Pacific fighter jocks trained in Chicago on Lake Michigan)
what a disrespectful jerk.
And Another Good Point...
Officer Safety is never OFF TOPIC.
I have often said, NEVER put down the rural, back country, back water cops. My family was enjoying wine tasting in the old town of Cottonwood Arizona just the other day. Not the limp wristed kind, this area is the last shades if the wild west. Later that night at the local 24hour Walmart there was melee in the store with a family of nine from Idaho. Police ere called and they were attacked on arrival. One offender shot and kill, one wounded, one officer wounded and the whole mob locked-up.
Look at the story below but if you get any such incident, look beyond the obvious.
These people may have been some sort of Sovereign Nation types and could be heavily armed. They were all locked-up under "John Does" and refused to cooperate.
There have been numerous incidents of groups and individuals at Walmarts, and other such places camping out and using them to cook methamphetamine. The chemicals for this process are highly toxic and volatile and require a Haz-Mat response.
Stat Safe, check it out...
http://www.policemag.com/videos/channel/patrol/2015/03/arizona-officer-shot-and-wounded-suspect-killed-in-walmart-gun-battle.aspx
Rhama Policing that Every COP should Vote for
So in 2011 the ACLU complained that there were not enough police in minority communities:
Now when police are disproportionately assigned to minority communities, they complain that the police are doing what they were sent there (at the request of the ACLU) to do. Typical lawyer logic.
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In 2011, when there was allegedly more police in non-minority neighborhoods, what were the "stop and frisk" numbers? We're non-minorities stopped and held up from going on about their business 100s of thousands more times than minorities in minority neighborhoods? Or were minorities still stopped at an unbelievably enormous rate compared to non-minorities? (I say "unbelievably" because there is proof that an enormous amount of stops result in nothing more than wasted time).
Stopped a man in one of these high crime neighborhoods - was professional and polite - even as he gave me attitude about how it's a shame a black man can't walk down the street in his own neighborhood. I said - you're right - it is a shame - but that's not because of me - it's because of the young black men who live in your neighborhood who are terrorizing and shooting up the community- and who's families don't seem to want to clean up and police their own houses - I politely sent him on his way a few minutes later - but he walk away still blaming the police
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is similar to the powder v. crack claim by leftists and blacks.
Send the crack dealers that target the black community away for longer sentences, and what do you get? Complaints from leftists and blacks that too many of their drug dealers are being sent to prison.
3/25/2015 08:47:00 AM
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and the LIAR LIBERALS who call this racist fail to tell you who initiated it: black congressman (trying to clean up their community), that's who
Off topic- Anyone know if it's true former Ohare Tact BS now ruining the 22nd District tried returning 12 custom tailored Sgt uniforms to VCG but they wouldn't give a refund!! His money! He started screaming and 25 th District cops had to respond. Could someone tell him Daddy Dugan has no juice , he's not getting promoted!
The guy ordered his sgt uniforms because he is 100 on the list? Without being called to start sgt training?
3/25/2015 12:17:00 PM
If you believe this drivel you're a moron
what a disrespectful jerk.
3/25/2015 10:22:00 PM
I recall in the 70's that some alderman wanted to rename South Park ( now MLK Drive), " Pony Soldier Drive" after one of the El Rukin leaders. Nothing surprises me. That is why we have schools names after Mexican leaders, which I believe should not be. Let Mexico name their schools after their own leaders.
Anonymous said...
Off topic- Anyone know if it's true former Ohare Tact BS now ruining the 22nd District tried returning 12 custom tailored Sgt uniforms to VCG but they wouldn't give a refund!! His money! He started screaming and 25 th District cops had to respond. Could someone tell him Daddy Dugan has no juice , he's not getting promoted!
The guy ordered his sgt uniforms because he is 100 on the list? Without being called to start sgt training?
3/25/2015 12:17:00 PM
If you believe this drivel you're a moron
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I have my doubts about this story.
VCG is in 016.
But many years ago an aspiring Sergeant bought a whole slew of new Sergeant's uniform shirts. He even had short sleeve shirts made by cutting down long sleeve shirts so they would fit just right. He had them all lined up I his closet perfectly. A week before he was promoted the Department mandated that all Sergeants will now wear WHITE shirts. Aaaugghhh!
RIP George.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic:
Did you read that Rahm wants to name either Midway or O'hare airports after Obama?!!!!
His exact quote was "We have have two airports named after battleships."..."
Rahm thinks that the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor.
Democrats as a whole have a very poor memory of history and thus are doomed to repeat much of it..
I just can't imaging a dinghy, much less a battleship, aircraft carrier or nuclear submarine named after Obama. It should be a rule that no capital ship be named after any president unless that president was a veteran or led the country in time of a declared war.
When the Obamas move to NYC their library plans will almost certainy go with them. Rahm will probably spend millions of our money buying their home here to turn it into some kind of shrine.
I it wasn't Sgt uniforms BS was returning , Lt uniforms, he already has Sgt uniforms at his Daddy's basement before he went thru academy
Anyone know if this is the same BS in 22 that was involved in that carbine rifle incident?
Is the ACLU now opposed to the "reasonable suspicion" standard established by the Supreme Court in Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968)?
Obviously, if a person is in a high-crime Chicago neighborhood, and too stupid to avoid being in the presence of police officers, there is a reasonable suspicion that they are, have been, or will be involved in criminal activities.
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