How About a List?
- The white University of Cincinnati police officer who shot unarmed black man Samuel Dubose during a traffic stop has been indicted on a murder charge, a prosecutor announced Wednesday, saying the cop "purposely" killed the motorist and "should never have been a police officer."
In announcing the charge against officer Ray Tensing, Hamilton County prosecutor Joe Deters lambasted the cop over the July 19 death of Dubose, 43, saying the fatal shooting was "the most asinine act I've ever seen a police officer make."
Pardon us, but that sounds a bit prejudicial to the "fair trial" rule of law. We assume that Joe Deters has proof of the hiring process, the standards of Ohio for qualifying officers, and a list of "asinine act(s)" to compare this one to?
- "He wasn't dealing with someone who was wanted for murder, OK? He was dealing with someone who didn't have a front license plate," Deters said of Tensing, who joined the university force in April 2014. "I mean, this is, in the vernacular, a pretty chicken-crap stop, all right? And — I could use harsher words."
He added that even if Dubose was starting to "roll away," the officer should have just let him go.
If this is such a.....how did he put it? "chicken-crap stop," then why did the legislature pass the law in the first place? Police are pretty much obligated to stop people who are breaking the law and maintain the standards set by the elected representatives. The words "Law" and "Enforcement" pretty much appear in the job description, unless they've been removed recently? And we imagine the prosecutor is going to regret uttering the thought that if someone starts to "roll away," officers should just let them go.
How about the states attorneys, prosecuting attorneys, or district attorneys in every one of the 50 states provide police a list of offenses that certain people don't have to obey or comply with? That would make everything simpler for everyone, wouldn't it? We wouldn't have these incident popping up with the potential for so much misunderstanding and violence when everyone is supposed to be equal before the law, right?
We'll even help start a list:
How about the states attorneys, prosecuting attorneys, or district attorneys in every one of the 50 states provide police a list of offenses that certain people don't have to obey or comply with? That would make everything simpler for everyone, wouldn't it? We wouldn't have these incident popping up with the potential for so much misunderstanding and violence when everyone is supposed to be equal before the law, right?
We'll even help start a list:
- strong armed robbery in Ferguson and not be stopped
- sell loose cigarettes in New York and not be stopped
- drive without a front license plate in Cincinnati
- loiter on street corners, flag down cars and sell dope or sex
- resist arrests, lawful or not, based on street lawyer experience or rap lyrics
- pretty much any gun offense on the streets of Chiraq
That being said and the unedited video not being shown by the media, an intelligent person cannot even make an educated guess as to what fully transpired. Yet the prosecutor has already condemned the accused to "purposefully" killing a motorist, claimed the entire hiring and training regimen suspect (thereby attacking all police officers of this department), and cemented this as the "most asinine act" in the history of policing, tainting any jury within a few hundred miles of Cincinnati.
"Railroading" doesn't even come close to describing this.
"Railroading" doesn't even come close to describing this.
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posted by SCC at 1:01 AM
135 Comments:
nuff said
Video Shows Cop Shoot Sam Dubose in the Head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=207&v=J6IhRABEG5A
Watch the video press conference of this jag off. You'll want to throw up in your mouth. Policing is finished. Add to the list carrying a pellet/bb gun that looks real as hell in Ohio, we should just lignite those calls too. Have the callers/victims check for us if its a real gun or fake and get back to the dispatcher.
Our President, You Know Who, has a whole host of laws that he ignores and has instructed those agencies under him to ignore. Also,certain portions of U.S. Constitution are ignored or disregarded whenever it is convenient to do so. Orders from federal judges, just ignore them. Maybe POTUS is setting the tone and an example for the rest of the population regarding obeying the law.
Over the past 20 years, Dubose has been charged more than 75 times in Hamilton County. Most of the charges were indeed non-violent: driving without a license, joyriding, having windows tinted too dark, misdemeanor drug possession. An assault charge in 2013 was dismissed. He’s faced eviction seven times, and he had his license suspended indefinitely in January by the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles. DuBose has been charged with driving without a license more than 13 times between 1995 and 2009, according to court records obtained by Cincinnati’s Fox 19. He has also been charged with driving while suspended eight times from 2005 and 2011 and with failure to display a proper a proper license plate on his vehicle four times between 1995 and 2009. Dubose had more than 75 offenses charged to him over his lifetime.
Thanks!
Someone finally giving a police perspective. Why enforcement of any laws if we are going to get thrown under the bus for enforcing the laws. This is leading to a State of Lawlessness.
Need to cut the Ohio prosecutor some slack. He has a certain powerful minority to placate, and he is probably trying to avoid full scale rioting, looting, burning and raping in the streets over this incident. Black Lives Matter in modern society much more than some minor traffic law. This officer's judgement, and sense of proportion is so lacking that he should not even be in law enforcement. Unfortunately, the officer is probably going to pay for his lack of judgement with a long prison sentence.
Black Lifes Matter!!!
As a non-LEO, if you all decide to say Fuck It!, I will not like it, but I will understand.
Don't Worry, You can still enforce the laws if the suspects are white.
More assholes folding under the liberal pressure
Finally, a list is coming out? I've been waiting for this list a long time. Just make sure it also lets us know when and if we can defend ourselves from an armed assailant and how we're suppose to defend ourselves. Like is there a balancing act we need to do. You know, like if I shoot first it's going to cost me and my family this amount. But if I wait till I'm shot dead it will only cost the city this amount.
Probably his tirade was five minutes after he heard that the George Soros paid Al Sharpton coached professional rioters were on the bus caravan headed for Cincinnati.
Time to do just your VRI activity, answer your calls, hand the good citizen their report and just back each other up. Not worth all this nonsense of getting fired, charges brought up against you and or sued. Police work has changed along with society.
Check out the video SCC. The officer was lacking self control.
I've seen the unedited version,it doesn't look good but you are innocent until proven guilty right?
That fucking prosecutor threw the po under the bus,then ran him over with it
How about this as an idea for the city and its' inhabitants. Like taverns and alcohol sales; let the registered eligible voters decide whether their precinct will be "wet or dry" (police service or not). By doing this we let the people have their voice. Specific details could be worked out if such a plan caught on and then resources could be redistributed to those areas who desire police service.
I am only being half sarcastic and would like to see some response to this idea. Anyone?
So I'm reading this press release regarding the indictment of and showboating Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters said that the cop SHOULD NOT HAVE STOPPED the black driver for not having a front license plate on his car, because it was "only" a minor infraction....
Ironically a traffic stop-- Oklahoma Highway Patrol Officer Trooper Charles J. Hanger conducted a traffic stop FOR a car without a license plate-- which lead to the arrest and capture of America's largest mass murderer -- Oklahoma City Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building bombing suspect Timothy J. McVeigh ... 168 were murdered in the bombing
Spot on SCC. If Officer Wilson, after almost being disarmed by the unarmed Gentle Giant, was allowed to put the car in drive and go grab a cup of coffee, he'd still have his job, Ferguson wouldn't be burned to the ground, and the Gentle Giant would still be "enrolled" in College this fall.
But according to the rules of his job he couldn't.
Since lawmakers make the laws and don't like it when white cops interact with certain segments of the population, simply pass a law that allows a cop to just walk away. Pulled over for speeding/weaving//talking on the phone and officer X didn't realize you were of a protected class until he walked up to the car? Sorry Sir/Ma'am, I was unaware of your race until just now, no need to show me your license or proof of insurance and despite the smell of alcohol on your breath, you are free to continue on your way.
It is my hope that one day, people will be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
Can I get an event number for a park check? Thanks...
Keep up that proactive policing everybody! You could be next!
Throw more gas on the tension that exists.....what an asx. Explain the findings and conclusion ....your personal opinion on the case need and has no bearing.When the shxt hits the fan in your city and you call on the police to do the job think about the fuel you just spilled onto the streets...Wow..any other incidents where this idiot held a press conference ? Not....cements this guy's opinion on the police...!
This is exactly why I put my papers in. 13 more months to go. I love this job. I wish the best for all my brothers and sisters all over the world. But I'm sorry. This city and department make me sick. But as I always say. This is what we get for not sticking together.
Well, if this does come back to bite him in the ass,(which it probably will ), he'll always be welcome by the Cook County States Attorney Office.
Just another example of the rules society are establishing for the police. If someone is running away or attempting to flee in a vehicle, they are not a threat and the police should just let them go. Do not fire unless fired upon, after all it may only be a toy gun with the orange tip removed. All police that violate these rules and end up killing someone, who will than be called a victim, will be prosecuted. These rules are being pushed from media outlets such as CNN to radio personalities such as Mancow. They Monday morning quarterback every high profile police citizen incident often calling the police criminals. The result of this is the depolicing of America. The ground rules are being established. How are you going to respond as a police officer? The way you do may put your families lives and your own freedom in jeopardy. Remember dogs seldom get cr numbers, or are named in law suits, and they retire with the same pension as you. Who is the dummy?
That prosecutor is a complete jagoff and should remove himself from this case
taking my front plate off ......right......now
Black people have decided that if they do not want to obey a certain law or a Police Officer they don't have to. And society, the newsmedia and now the politicians are aiding and abetting them in that. Set the actual shooting in this matter aside and you will see that this once again begins when another black person decided that he didn't have to obey a traffic law or Police Officer. When a Police Officer tells you to exit your car, you exit your car. If the law says you must have a front plate on your car, then exhibit a front plate.
In civilized society we have levels of government. We have those that write the laws, those that enforce those laws and those that must obey those laws. The enforcement of those laws is not negotiable on the street. That is what the courts are for. And until black people learn that, these types of incidents will continue. If we are going to boast that we are a nation of laws, then we all must follow the law. To do otherwise makes us no different than Somalia, Yemen or any other shithole you can think of.
The "Fuck the Police" mindset, aided by the newsmedia, politicians and certain segments of society are just as responsible for this incident as is the Officer that pulled the trigger.
Welcome to being under the bus.
Garry sent me an email today i read it and it said GIBBERISH.
gib·ber·ish
ˈjib(ə)riSH/
noun
noun: gibberish
unintelligible or meaningless speech or writing; nonsense.
"he talks gibberish"
synonyms: nonsense, garbage, balderdash, blather, rubbish; More
informaldrivel, gobbledygook, mumbo jumbo, tripe, hogwash, baloney, bilge, bull, bunk, guff, eyewash, piffle, twaddle, poppycock;
vulgar slangverbal diarrhea
"am I going deaf, or is she speaking gibberish?"
Look Garry you can fire whoever you like and in the near future officers will be fired for pretty much anything. Just let the public know that Police officers adapt quickly and that may put this whole lovely sanctuary city in a giant steaming pile of crap.
Squad Cars Chasing murderers?
Transporting Mentals?
Firing weapons at shooters?
Asking victims to sign refusal to prosecutes?
video taping every misdemeanor?
Exempts with police experience?
Don't worry i got your email and in the most corrupt town in the most corrupt state and old rugby player "aint"telling me shit!
My mantra from now on is: "I ain't doing nuffins!"....
SCC
You also left out something that is relevant. The guy who was stopped (and eventually shot) had a LONG arrest record. Funny, how that doesn't make it into the conversation.
OK - I am sure some Liberal will jump on this and write that doesn't mean the guy should have been executed, but come on, his whole demeanor was evasive and being non-cooperative.
Would YOU trust him if you pulled him over? A huge judgement call that most people would fail. Let him go as he hit the accelerator? As long as you were not in the way - yes. BUT, those second-guessing the cop were not there.
Plus, the media talks about this story every news broadcast, but few have even talked about Planned Parenthood selling baby body parts as if they are the Victory Auto Wreckers for abortion clinics - need some parts, we got 'em.
Not a LEO, JAFO
As a retired po, I feel your frustration and pain. That being said, the left (and their relentless media machine) have finally gotten their way with this conservative. I am totally numb to the daily cop-bashing stories, videos, and commentaries offered daily as a sign of a totally broken society, and will not watch, listen to, or read them. And a copper will be offered up for the masses every once in a while, justifiably or not, to satisfy the masses and allegedly keep the peace. Officers, don't be that copper. Please treat every citizen interaction as if it could be "the big one" that changes your life forever (not for the good). Good luck and God bless.
federal police here we come...america of your youth is gone,lord help us all!
What higher office is this asshole running for?
It's what the public wants, so just make reports and cease pro-active police work.
Thank you SCC. I was so ticked off yesterday afterI read the prosecutor's comments. I love how prosecutors think that they are the legislature. How about prosecutors just doing their job and prosecuting violations of the law!
Look how far the parked car is in front of the offender's vehicle during the traffic stop, then where it is when the officer falls down.
The officer was dragged, which is deadly force, thereby making it a justifiable shooting. This state's attorney should be fired & sued.
Thought their was something called due process....this idiot prosecutor is pretty much convicting this kid by interjecting his opinion at the press conference..... I don't think the copper did anything wrong, the idiot driver was not complying and did attempt to flee with his dam car.....come on
That's exactly why I set my climate control at 68 degrees with the windows rolled up and front sun visors down in my cruiser for eight hours. I see nor hear nothing! You will receive less punishment for doing nothing than doing something. No jail time for being non motivated.
i had to watch it a couple of times to figure out that dude was starting up the car
This goof is just as bad as the DA in Baltimore. Facts be damned there's pandering to be done and by God they're going to do it.
This guys an asshole .
Do as I say... Not as I do. PUNK !
The driver who was shot refused to give the officer his drivers license or insurance card, refused to exist the vehicle and blocked attempts by the police officer to open the car door, then started to drive away.
Society is about to realize that it is cheaper for a police officer to get killed or injured, than it is to defend themselves. For example, officer shoots someone, cost a few million dollars. Officer gets killed, funeral cost what 10 grand. Society is about to realize this, and will disarm a portion of the police. In the country I was born in... Only specialized units and the ranks above corporal are allowed to carry weapons... Everyone else has a baton.
Timothy McVeigh was only stopped for a missing tag. Subsequently arrested for a UUW and his detention led to cracking the case of the most horrific act of domestic terrorism. I use only sarcastically.
We need to designate one day each month for no enforcement (contact cards, movers, parkers, CTA checks, curfews & school absents) The 16th works for me but I'm open to suggestions
Deters must have an election coming up. Usually it's the bottom-feeder defense "team" that tries the case in the media.
I stopped writing moving violations years ago after the judge in traffic court let the motorist off on some weak ass excuse knowing he was lying through his teeth. So I figured, what the heck is the point and I have not written a single mover since, and I still get paid every 1st and 16th.
Another prosecutor by the name of Nifong tried a case in the media. Remember the Duke Lacrosse rape case? This guy just talked himself out of a job. Ignorant jackass.
Does Deters now have some mystical power to determine what constitutes a "chicken-crap stop"? Timothy Mc Veigh was initially stopped for a missing license plate as was Ted Bundy. Were those "chicken-crap"?
how about Sharon Bland incident the motorist who changed traffic lanes without using turn signal for making a lane change
I think the prosecutor forgot to mention how many generations of the police there are in his/her family ... and their criminal records.
Reminds me of that bozo Baltimore Mayor. Even worse, head prosecutors need to be even handed and can talk about how bad someone is AFTER a conviction. Before a conviction, just lay out the basic facts and the charges and STFU.
Remember Boys and Girls, A photo or video speaks a thousand words.
Just look at the CPD crew that did the drug traffic stop in Glenview while being taped by Glenview Police in car camera.
I wish we can get video of the Judges, prosecutors and lawyers in court.
Even better how about the video of the Teachers and staff while in schools
or the Doctors and nurses in medical offices and hospitals.
No one will have a job if all is video taped!
Nice memo Garry now he wants to terminate any CPD member for the key word here ALLEGEDLY lying to Department investigators during any shooting investigation. Wait till he finds out how many exempt staff have been allowed to Lie during interviews and they were allowed to keep job and still be promoted. Remember Billy Joel Concert at Wrigley Field and the Airport incursion.
So do not lie during shooting investigation, but its OK to lie during all other investigations right Garry?
In IAD its called PAST PRACTICE or better COMMAND AUTHORITY.
Why have the videos of past shootings here not been released? They know it will burn this city down.
Something that could also happen here if Prickwrinkle is able to foist her chief of staff as the next State's Attorney. Fits right in with her "too many people of color" are incarcerated strategy. Hey Toni, why not channel your efforts towards solving the county's financial woes?
"Semi-Sheriff" Dart has already caved in to your strategy - so you still need to sandbag Alvarez?
Have you noticed that we let Anita know when we disagree with her? She's not perfect but your "person of color" strategy won't be accepted by the law abiding voters. You are turning into the same misguided, raise taxes, cry racism routine that Todd Stroger tried when he was President.
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150729/downtown/stop-frisk-ordinance-would-require-more-chicago-police-records
The civil war is here. If you can't see it, you are a moron.
Obama and his handlers have destroyed America.
This guy has over 50 arrests and 8+ illegitimate kids that taxpayers pay for.
DA should be run out of town on a rail.
Feel so bad for these kids. The climate of the job just doesn't warrant any aggressive work these days. To me it looked like there was a struggle for the gun, but you can't tell when the gun came out. Or why. Just like 99% of the other cop-now-arrested incidents, when all the facts come out, the cop will be justified. Officers just don't wake up and say they're gonna kill some jackass today. As much as the left wants to think so, that just does NOT happen.
Very sad.
"Officer Survival in Current Times -- How to Effectively Manage Your Shift While Avoiding Personal Injury, Litigation and Media Scrutiny "
-No street stops
-No traffic stops
-No traffic pursuits
-No foot chases
The end result of an officer initiated chase never has justification in the eyes of the public and/or media. Even If someone is shot in front of you, give a description of the fleeing offender, direction of flight, and attend to the victim until EMS arrives.
-Respond to calls in a timely manner, but without the use of emergency equipment. That means obeying all traffic control devices, posted speed limits, and rules of the road. Exception is when assisting a fellow P/O
-Write reports whenever possible, for whatever reason. Many are satisfied with a report over an arrest. If a supervisor compains, you're following general orders. Consider each report an additional lunch period.
-Personal and lunch, every day.
-Gas up your vehicle, every day.
-Only arrest upon signed complaints. Exception is Domestic Violence.
Congratulations! You've effectively limited your negative reaction with the public and have made it through another shift withoug being injured, sued, or lambested within the media.
I saw what appeared to be the unedited version of the video and, because of the angle of the camera, you can't really tell what happened. But I'm sure everyone will hallucinate whatever they need to in order to match the narrative they want to push.
(The site I saw it on was theync.com but be forewarned that the site is very, very NSFW)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
That's exactly why I set my climate control at 68 degrees with the windows rolled up and front sun visors down in my cruiser for eight hours. I see nor hear nothing! You will receive less punishment for doing nothing than doing something. No jail time for being non motivated.
7/30/2015 08:17:00 AM
And it helps not to work in Chicago, which you, in your cruiser, don't.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does Deters now have some mystical power to determine what constitutes a "chicken-crap stop"? Timothy Mc Veigh was initially stopped for a missing license plate as was Ted Bundy. Were those "chicken-crap"?
7/30/2015 09:56:00 AM
Precisely.
" chicken crap stop" is in the eye of the beholder. If you live in a big city, then maybe yes because you see so many violations and have so many hot calls that you might not bother. But, move to the burbs and you will see the police will stop you for just about anything.But, the way things are going, if I was a police officer today I would only answer calls and not stop people for minor traffic violation and as a writer stated, arrest only when someone else signs complaints.Being pro active is great and shows concern and dedication, but you must realize that if something goes wrong the media will make you name a household word in short order and an ambitious prosecutor will make their reputation on you. it seems that mayors think that when cops are indicted they can avoid riots in their towns. All they are doing is prolonging the inevitable.
Anonymous The ghost of Orlando Wilson said...
How about this as an idea for the city and its' inhabitants. Like taverns and alcohol sales; let the registered eligible voters decide whether their precinct will be "wet or dry" (police service or not). By doing this we let the people have their voice. Specific details could be worked out if such a plan caught on and then resources could be redistributed to those areas who desire police service.
I am only being half sarcastic and would like to see some response to this idea. Anyone?
7/30/2015 04:04:00 AM
You're not aware of Chicago's liquor laws, are you? You should read up before posting.
When will we all understand what is going on the overall picture of society. Do not enforce laws the community will not stand behind you on. Do not use force that the community terms unnecessary in hind sight. We have enough examples by now...don't you think? Do not endanger yourself or your family unnecessarily. If someone is resisting arrest, let them go. Tell the complainant that there are at least two other ways to have their day in court. They can summons the individual or ask the State's Attorney to indict them. Then give them the number to the State's Attorney's office. Remember, State's Attorney's are indemnified...we no longer are. Do your job, take the report...be kind...be helpful...be the administrator they want us to be...push the paper and let them do the work and take the risks. Yes we took an oath but the oath is a two way street. Even though the slogan is "To serve and Protect", the community has misinterpreted the term SERVE in my opinion and PROTECT is no longer allowed.
Speaking of jam ups. I hear call back got some new talent from 012 caught nibbleing at the edges a little to close to center.
012 is throwing a cake and coffee, give the $5 to him. He'll supply the cake and coffee and maybe some free Goose Island Beer too.
Was there a dashboard camera? Or what about a body camera on the other officer backing him?
More than just the camera on his own body, you'd think having several others would help corroborate the story either to prove or dissprove that the vehicle was moving. .
Swim deep, swim in the dark and swim silent by yourself.
The Cincinnati states attorney, much like Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn in another high profile case involving a savage is another pandering coward. Meet the next Darren Wilson. Work smart and don't be afraid to put these mutts in the ground. Your failure to do your job puts your family in line to be the next ME case.
Seriously we have to get the Alderman Joe Moreno 1st ward out of office. Commie bastard.
I don't even stop 1's anymore. Too much trouble. I have three kids to support.
Anonymous said...
Keep up that proactive policing everybody! You could be next!
7/30/2015 05:04:00 AM
My partner and I are proactive every single night. Been doing it for years.
Swim deep, swim in the dark and swim silent by yourself.
Timothy McViegh was caught on a chicken-crap traffic stop too...
Sandra Bland's sister Sharon Cooper said:
“I think we have to start doing better,” she says. “Part of it is accepting our privilege and not demanding subservience simply because someone is wearing a uniform.”
http://www.thetakeaway.org/story/roxane-gay-sandra-bland-fear-black-body/
The bottom line is even "chicken shit" traffic stops ( to quote this asshole DA) sometimes result in very big things.
I believe Ted Bundy was arrested after being pulled over for a "chicken shit" violation.
The Oklahoma City bomber was also arrested after a "chicken shit" traffic stop.
So Mr. Asshole DA what exactly are you saying??
Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City Federal Building bomber, was stopped and arrested for a license plate violation.
Thank you for all you do CPD! I/We completely support you, thank you for putting your lives on the line for us every day. You are true hero's. I'm in Lakeview and tied a blue ribbon around our tree on the parkway several months ago in support of CPD! Stay Safe.
Just detail everyone to a fixed post at 69th and Ashland and only take reports via 311.
The DA didn't do anything that BO didn't do in the Boston professor case ("the police acted stupidly") and Trayvon Martin ("if I had a son...") or that Holder didn't do in Ferguson.
Simply followed their examples, as I see it.
Certain segments of society have been held to a lesser standard due to white guilt. We now see the result: reckless disregard for authority in any form. Where will it end?
If certain people can refuse to abide by such 'chicken crap laws', why not all?
Perhaps we need to segregate our law enforcers: only black officers for black, white for white, hispanic for hispanic, etc.
If this case goes to trial against this Officer anyone should be able to dodge jury duty simple by saying, "I am afraid that if I voted to acquit I'd receive death threats and my home might be burned down."
Good Luck Officer.
Re: We need to designate one day each month for no enforcement (contact cards, movers, parkers, CTA checks, curfews & school absents) The 16th works for me but I'm open to suggestions
How about every day? Wake the F--k up!!!!!
Ray getting railroaded, c'mon let's start a PAC to fight these relentless attacks.
Did this incident occur on Campus? Save the bullcrap he's certified by the state.
In that case, carry your mover book on your way to Jewel might have to right some movers.
We are truly in an era that Tackleberry would be considered a well rounded level headed Lawman.
I guess drunky fell down on Simons boat 2 ribs broken. I guess the Simon posts weren't too far off!
Anonymous said...
"Officer Survival in Current Times -- How to Effectively Manage Your Shift While Avoiding Personal Injury, Litigation and Media Scrutiny "
-No street stops
-No traffic stops
-No traffic pursuits
-No foot chases
The end result of an officer initiated chase never has justification in the eyes of the public and/or media. Even If someone is shot in front of you, give a description of the fleeing offender, direction of flight, and attend to the victim until EMS arrives.
-Respond to calls in a timely manner, but without the use of emergency equipment. That means obeying all traffic control devices, posted speed limits, and rules of the road. Exception is when assisting a fellow P/O
-Write reports whenever possible, for whatever reason. Many are satisfied with a report over an arrest. If a supervisor compains, you're following general orders. Consider each report an additional lunch period.
-Personal and lunch, every day.
-Gas up your vehicle, every day.
-Only arrest upon signed complaints. Exception is Domestic Violence.
Congratulations! You've effectively limited your negative reaction with the public and have made it through another shift withoug being injured, sued, or lambested within the media.
7/30/2015 11:18:00 AM
Now that is excellent advice officer! My brother was putting out a fire the other day 5400 block of south halsted and he noticed 4 young coppers standing outside he asked them "wheres your car its hot out'" 1 copper told him "we are dropped off walk the complete tour from 51-55 and halsted, maybe the super could put some of these young officers on the west end of 008 you know where they are respected and could go into a store and get a cool drink. Already called the alderman's office hope others call also, its ridiculous all the resources given to the non-taxpaying areas that don't want to be policed,and the total lack of coppers allocated to where they should be at! 4 coppers no car to cool off in (I know if the air works), really a pathetic thing to do!
Brother & Sisters who serve as Campus Police @ private/non-state funded colleges/universities:
While most states give you Peace Officer status, your institution of higher learning will state that they can terminate you w/o any rights that are given to municipal/county/state officers.
We hope that you keep this mind so you're not fired like this Officer at the Univ. of Cincinnati before the trial even started. The Lynch Mob Rules now applicable to an OIS.
Stay Safe.
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150729/downtown/stop-frisk-ordinance-would-require-more-chicago-police-records
"Where I'm from, we say we need less policing in our communities," said Malcolm London, an activist with the group We Charge Genocide. He called for "a serious conversation about what policing looks like."
Minority youths are being "harassed," Moreno charged, "and that's wrong."
Moreno urged city residents to pressure their aldermen to support the ordinance."
I could not agree more. We need less policing in Malcolm Londons community. Send the police from the east end of 008 to the west end of 008. Talke all police from 007, 005, 006, 011 & 015 and send them where they are needed and appreciated.
How many tickets/arrest does one have to have to justify open season on ya?
Where it's justified that you get blasted in the head?
If that's how Broken Windows works get busy and write those anovs and lock and load.
"...We assume that Joe Deters has proof of the hiring process, the standards of Ohio for qualifying officers,..."
You don't think Ohio has a clout hire program like Chicago to qualify officers and promotions? WTH?
There are 2 simple messages here.
First: Do not become a police officer. If you're looking for a job do something else. Be a parole officer, firefighter, etc. Whatever you do, do not become a police officer in america. There are other jobs that have pensions.
Second: If you're already a police officer get out as soon as you can. If there was a fire in your house you would run out quickly right to save yourself? Same thing here. The roof is on fire. If you stick around, you'll get burned.
Well, by the prosecutors statements alone, he just gave the ofcrs defense attorney some solide arguments for not getting a fair trial in that venue.
Is it going to be the same as stupid Chiraq?
Do we forget that Chicago had a cop that shot someone cold hearted and the prosecuter said because the cop was charged with murder and not manslaughter cop was f*cken acquitted.
My point this cop may walk cause is the same senerio!
All this and yet the traffic nazi's in certain suburbs will continue their enforcement.Not of dude, but soccer moms,high school kids, and people trying to get to work in the morning.
Black people have decided that if they do not want to obey a certain law or a Police Officer they don't have to. And society, the newsmedia and now the politicians are aiding and abetting them in that. Set the actual shooting in this matter aside and you will see that this once again begins when another black person decided that he didn't have to obey a traffic law or Police Officer. When a Police Officer tells you to exit your car, you exit your car. If the law says you must have a front plate on your car, then exhibit a front plate.
In civilized society we have levels of government. We have those that write the laws, those that enforce those laws and those that must obey those laws. The enforcement of those laws is not negotiable on the street. That is what the courts are for. And until black people learn that, these types of incidents will continue. If we are going to boast that we are a nation of laws, then we all must follow the law. To do otherwise makes us no different than Somalia, Yemen or any other shithole you can think of.
The "Fuck the Police" mindset, aided by the newsmedia, politicians and certain segments of society are just as responsible for this incident as is the Officer that pulled the trigger.
7/30/2015 06:36:00 AM
At no point during the stop did the officer order him to step out the vehicle. He did order him to take off his seat belt, but he never ordered him to get out the car. The officer simply just attempted to open his door.
Off topic but interesting
Tom Dart giving good trade jobs to inmates, not in any local outlets yet, far as I know this kind of thing is illegal
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/30/chicago-sheriff-puts-inmates-to-work-demolishing-abandoned-buildings/
"Black people have decided that if they do not want to obey a certain law or a Police Officer they don't have to. And society, the newsmedia and now the politicians are aiding and abetting them in that."
That might not be so bad in and of itself, but it seems to be making them bolder, and they seem to be hurting more people as a result.
No one ever got in trouble for just answering their calls. Despite all of the writing on the wall though most officers still don't get it. Their ego is too huge. Their inflated ego is more important than their family's well being. I don't have one iota of sympathy for this officer or anyone else who is proactive. Call me an asshole. But also you would have to admit I am 1000% right on the money.
I checked this out. It is real. I found an article about this in the New York Times from 2009 in addition to other sources. I couldn't believe this shit!
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Sec of State John Kerry reveals daughter married Iranian-American with extensive ties to Iran
Here we have an example that demonstrates this reality further and it comes via Kenneth Timmerman, who has picked up on the fact that the new Secretary of State – John Kerry – has a son-in-law with family still living in Iran. This reality could conceivably affect how Kerry deals with the Iranians.
Via the Daily Caller:
In a greeting to the Iranian people on the occasion of the traditional New Year (Nowruz) holiday last week, Secretary of State John Kerry exposed a secret that journalists and academics have been agonizing over for the past six weeks: the fact that his daughter has married an Iranian-American who has extensive family ties to Iran.
“I am proud of the Iranian-Americans in my own family, and grateful for how they have enriched my life,” Kerry said in the official statement. Kerry also said he was “strongly committed to resolving” the differences between the United States and the Islamic Republic of Iran, “to the mutual benefit of both of our people.”
Politicians like to keep their families off-limits to the press, a decorum enforced vigorously when it comes to politicians who are in favor with the national media but ruthlessly discarded for others. But in Kerry’s case, there could be larger ramifications.
Since its inception, the FBI has vetted U.S. government officials involved in national security issues, and it generally won’t grant clearances to individuals who are married to nationals of an enemy nation or have family members living in that country, for fear of divided loyalties or, more simply, blackmail.
There it is. Certainly, even leftists can comprehend this concept without inserting race into their thought processes (oh, wait). Imagine a scenario in which a representative of Iran’s mullahs approaches the State Department with a list of demands that, if not met, could have serious consequences for Kerry’s in-laws living in Iran.
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Actually, this was first reported in 2009 as far as I can tell, and in the NY Times, when Kerry was still a Senator. So by time Kerry was named Secretary of State his daughter was married to this guy and I heard nothing about it when Kerry was being vetted. Wonder why.
Kerry's In-Laws are Iranian!
Mission Objective:
1st, 16th, 22nd, the 7th of each quarter, 1st of every Feb/Aug/Dec, 200hrs in between, sporadic 8.5's, 13 DOH's, 4 P's, 6 V's.
Let Rahm have his ghetto.
Don't be a chump. They're looking for a scapegoat to show the Tribune, the reverends, the hands up don't shoot crowd that they are out to prosecute a police officer regardless of the evidence. Let those traffic offenders go, don't chase anyone, don't go looking for trouble. Give them what they want and let this city succumb to the lawlessness that overwhelms Baltimore. Your life, your family and your loved ones are worth more than the scumbags in the media, in city hall and the states attorney's office.
OT: from the Tribune:
A West Chicago man who is accused of sexually assaulting two young daughters of an acquaintance was ordered held in lieu of $1 million bail, DuPage County prosecutors said Thursday.
Obdulio Lopez-Gomez, 39, of Burr Oaks Drive, appeared in bond court Thursday following his arrest on four counts of predatory criminal sexual assault.
Lopez-Gomez is in the United States illegally, according to the DuPage County state's attorney's office.
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I am shocked.
Does Deters now have some mystical power to determine what constitutes a "chicken-crap stop"? Timothy Mc Veigh was initially stopped for a missing license plate as was Ted Bundy. Were those "chicken-crap"?
7/30/2015 09:56:00 AM
Sounds like Mr. Deters, Esq. wishes to be considered for an appointed office at the Federal level.
Anyways, con't compare white chicken crap to black chicken crap. Different viscosities.
Learn how to navigate the choppy waters
Funny , As I grew up there certain places we just didn't drive thru at night . Do to the fact that they enforced the traffic laws and vehicle codes with a vengeance. Imagine that and they all had a low crime rate as well.......... Didn't matter what color your skin was , you didn't measure up you got a ticket or towed. And there was no loitering no "hanging out" on the corner no wandering down the middle of the street and not moving for cars......... Instant enforcement. Guess the fuck what......... No worries no tore up or stolen shit either...........
The arrest of Timothy McVeigh was based on a stop for no license plate.
Was that a chicken shit stop too?
We need to reach out to Fox News for this years Bud Billiken Day. They need to have crews embedded and show uncut and unfiltered the absolute chaos the MSM won't show. If our Depts don't aggresively start defending and explaining the open warfare in the Black Communities and fighting back against the all out media war against Law and Order and what we face, we are condemning future generations of innocent Blacks to a life of violence and poverty only known in 3rd World Nations. If I was an uninformed Black I'd hate the Police also and get sucked into the life,they don't know anything else and it's truly a slow motion genocide in our own backyard.
Like I said, hands off the rats. Let it burn. Now let me enjoy my combo sandwich.
This line unfortunately is what the public will latch onto from one of the articles...
"Reading the initial police report after having watched the video is a frightful lesson on the lengths to which officers will go to protect one another."
The paranoid cop screwed up but this guy would still be alive if he just shown his license.
True News USA Says:
In a black pandering and politically enhancing speech, Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters said, “Officer Ray Tensing ‘purposely killed’ Samuel DuBose after pulling him over for a ‘chicken crap’ infraction” of a missing license plate.
Ironically OKLAHOMA STATE TROOPER CHARLES “Charlie” J. HANGER captured and arrested America’s largest mass murder for conducting a traffic stop for the exact same reason, MISSING LICENSE PLATE.
OKLAHOMA STATE TROOPER CHARLES “Charlie” J. HANGER stopped Timothy James McVeigh for A MISSING LICENSE PLATE which lead to his arrest for the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City which killed 168 people. A matter of fact, had this traffic stop NOT OCCURRED, the identity of the bombing suspect may have never been known.
Just received this via text. About an hour ago, a Chicago cop stopped in the jewel wabash and Roosevelt in uniform. A guy assaulted him took his gun and fled. Cop taken away in ambulance
Withdrawal in disgust is not the same as apthay
Fuck these people.
I'm not stopping anybody anymore.
No one ever got in trouble for just answering their calls. Despite all of the writing on the wall though most officers still don't get it. Their ego is too huge. Their inflated ego is more important than their family's well being. I don't have one iota of sympathy for this officer or anyone else who is proactive. Call me an asshole. But also you would have to admit I am 1000% right on the money.
You're exactly right but there's too many naive meatheads out here stopping people trying to get an arrest for the day. For what?
Your boss? Bosses come and go. You could end up in a deposition getting grilled by some parasite attorney even after doing nothing wrong. Court system laughs at you. ASAs don't give a fuck bout your work.
to: 8:51 p.m. you forgot da couple, tree medical stints in between.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Black Lifes Matter!!!
7/30/2015 02:19:00 AM
Now that's funny
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The arrest of Timothy McVeigh was based on a stop for no license plate.
Was that a chicken shit stop too?
7/30/2015 10:53:00 PM
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The entire NYC 'broken window theory' is based on locking them up for 'chicken shit' so as to thwart the 'big' shit.
This prosecutor has some balls man. Wonder if he ever prosecuted a 'chicken shit' crime. Maybe someone should look that up.
Thank you to all you union sheep who voted for Obama...great job
These dumbfucks. Chicken shit huh? The Olympic Bomber was caught by a beat guy who saw someone digging through a dumpster.
You never know who you are stopping.
Or not shoot a guy in the head....Not ok with murder charge but to say he is not at all responsible for this is just flat out ridiculous. We are so quick to pull that trigger sometimes....and sometimes we are wrong and will be charged all be it overcharged sometimes.
Time to do just your VRI activity, answer your calls, hand the good citizen their report and just back each other up. Not worth all this nonsense of getting fired, charges brought up against you and or sued. Police work has changed along with society.
Anonymous said...
The arrest of Timothy McVeigh was based on a stop for no license plate.
Was that a chicken shit stop too?
7/30/2015 10:53:00 PM
Son of Sam killer in New York, David Berkowitz, was caught (1977) because of a parking ticket written near one of the scenes. Detectives went through every parking ticket issued in the vicinity of every killing. Bingo, they got him. Anyone ever says parking tickets don't mean shit is wrong. Now that was good old fashioned police work.
William W Ware, Elgin, IL said...
True News USA Says:
In a black pandering and politically enhancing speech, Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters said, “Officer Ray Tensing ‘purposely killed’ Samuel DuBose after pulling him over for a ‘chicken crap’ infraction” of a missing license plate.
Ironically OKLAHOMA STATE TROOPER CHARLES “Charlie” J. HANGER captured and arrested America’s largest mass murder for conducting a traffic stop for the exact same reason, MISSING LICENSE PLATE.
OKLAHOMA STATE TROOPER CHARLES “Charlie” J. HANGER stopped Timothy James McVeigh for A MISSING LICENSE PLATE which lead to his arrest for the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City which killed 168 people. A matter of fact, had this traffic stop NOT OCCURRED, the identity of the bombing suspect may have never been known.
7/31/2015 12:29:00 AM
The account I read had the Trooper, a by the book guy, did everything according to Hoyle. The car McVeigh was driving supposedly had no plates. The Trooper stayed back, behind his squad car door and ordered McVeigh out of the car. McVeigh had a pistol in a holster. The trooper disarmed him and put him in the back of his squad car. McVeigh was charged with traffic offense and a weapons offense. McVeigh was still in the lockup three days later, near to being bonded out, when the FBI identified the guy who was wanted as McVeigh and saw on the FBI computers that he was in custody. The FBI put a hold on him.
He was ID'd by a clerk from a motel in the OK City area. He used an alias. Great police work.
There's a reckoning coming, fellas. And the revolution will be televised on social media. Get with the new way or get out.
I am more inclined toward manslaughter then murder in this case.
The more inflammatory comments from the prosecutor seem inappropriate.
Anonymous said...
Black Lifes Matter!!!
7/30/2015 02:19:00 AM
Black lies seem to matter more nowadays.
Son of Sam killer in New York, David Berkowitz, was caught (1977) because of a parking ticket written near one of the scenes. Detectives went through every parking ticket issued in the vicinity of every killing. Bingo, they got him. Anyone ever says parking tickets don't mean shit is wrong. Now that was good old fashioned police work.
That's also what did in Andrew Cunanan. A parking ticket written by a cop on Division street, I believe just west of State.
I think she got promoted for that.
Anonymous said...
Swim deep, swim in the dark and swim silent by yourself.
7/30/2015 01:14:00 PM
My retirement speech at the Christmas party was, "Run silent, run deep". I then handed the microphone back to the emcee.
The prosecutor for this chicken-crap Ohio case must be related to the chicken-crap states attorney (Moosebeak or something like that)in Baltimore.
?This prosecutor has some balls man. Wonder if he ever prosecuted a 'chicken shit' crime. Maybe someone should look that up."
Sorry, but I have to disagree with your statement. This prosecutor has no balls. Never did. Never will. This is another political handjob to get himself off, a wet dream gone awry.
'Sorry, but I have to disagree with your statement. This prosecutor has no balls. Never did. Never will. This is another political handjob to get himself off, a wet dream gone awry.
7/31/2015 10:53:00 PM"
Just to clarify, That's D.A. Bob McCulloch He's referring to.
What about the idea that a suspect fleeing in a 2 ton vehicle is using deadly force against the public.
There are enough innocents that have died due to fleeing suspects to support this theory.
So is deadly force unjustified to stop a suspect from using deadly force against the public?
If the fleeing suspect is stopped before any harm comes to the community, isn't the public safer?
In that case, we don't even have to consider the question of was the officers life in danger, the public is in danger.
Yes, this is a very politically-incorrect thought, but what would the families of those who have been killed or maimed by fleeing suspects think about the use of deadly force against the suspect, before the suspect used deadly force against their family?
Sincerely,
Tired of innocents getting killed by criminals.
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