More Anti Gun Posturing
- Hernandez, a 44-year-old mother of four, also was a clerk at a Loop loan store. She was working Friday when her ex-boyfriend walked in around 2:30 p.m. and shot her twice before turning the gun on himself, Chicago police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said at AmeriCash Loans in the 100 block of West Van Buren Street.
“This does not look like a robbery but a domestic murder-suicide,” McCarthy told reporters.
- McCarthy said the shooter had a concealed carry permit, but it was not known if he was registered to carry the gun he used in the shooting.
Really? And this was important why? Because the I-Team just had a report about how Concealed Carry license holders are a surprisingly law abiding bunch:
- Crimes committed by concealed-carry gun owners are rare in Illinois, which has been issuing concealed weapons permits for less than two years.
When the first concealed-carry permit was issued in the state on December 18, 2013, there were predictions that Illinois would turn into the Wild West.
That, of course, hasn't happened. Friday's apparent murder-suicide involving a licensed concealed weapon owner is unusual.
There are now more than 120,000 concealed-carry licensees in Illinois and it is extremely rare to hear about a permit holder being involved in any violent crime, much less a murder. Friday's was the first of 2015 according to police officials, if not the first at all here since Illinois passed concealed carry.
Whoa whoa whoa - we can't have citizens thinking that Concealed Carry is a good thing. Better get McStreetlights out there telling everyone how bad guns are, especially concealed guns and the people who carry them. This was a pointless bit of information released solely to smear citizens who choose to exercise their Rights. Unless we're going to see McRahm'sTool start releasing information on all the west side and south side shooters of late? That'd be interesting.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:31 AM
33 Comments:
McCarthy said the shooter had a concealed carry permit, but it was not known if he was registered to carry the gun he used in the shooting.
??????Register gun? Since when???
The Big Guy is an expert on the badness of guns and the extreme badness of concealed guns. He is from NYC.
What a joke he is saying something irrelevant like that. Typical political pawn. Embarrassment!
"When the first concealed-carry permit was issued in the state on December 18, 2013, there were predictions that Illinois would turn into the Wild West."
Are people in Illinois dumber and more violent then those in the other 49 states and DC?
Because none of them became the Wild West with CCW.
Since when do you have to register the gun you are going to carry?
Only CPD is required to register their firearms, concealed carriers do not have to register theirs. It is a little thing in the law called preemption Garry, you should really learn the law.
Why would they register a gun?
The only people registering guns are police officers?
Maybe dump that unit and stick them on sex weirdo registration! Garry cmon you can say thing like pedophiles are scary and should be watched.
Sadly Garry only worries about what RAHM tells him to worry about. A tough guy taking orders from a ballerina.
"McCarthy said the shooter had a concealed carry permit, but it was not known if he was registered to carry the gun he used in the shooting."
??? What does that even mean? No one needs to be "registered" to carry a particular gun if they have a carry permit, is it the reporter who's confused or does Garry not even know what the law says?
McDtreetlights should know that firearms no not have to be "registered" in Illinois. What an asshat.
Drivers License? FOID? CCL permit? Thanks SCC Now lets see if the Chicago media can take your hint. I'm sure your read daily by the editors of each media outlet.
What exactly do they mean by '...but it was not known if he was registered to carry the gun he used in the shooting.'?
Imagine if you will and yes this is fantasy , If EVERY GUN CRIME story listed the information as to if the involved had a FOID card or CCW . And if the involved was on probation or had previous gun crime convictions. Imagine if you will if someone collected that data and then drilled it down to show exactly what the cause and effects were of the Demorat gun law crusade. That my friends would be an interesting read. And in this day an age how hard would it be really to do it ?
"McCarthy said the shooter had a concealed carry permit, but it was not known if he was registered to carry the gun he used in the shooting."
Brain fart, McCarthy? Unlike New York, there is no handgun registration in Illinois, and a Firearms Concealed Carry License is NOT restricted to particular handguns.
+++++ 'McCarthy said the shooter had a concealed carry permit, but it was not known if he was registered to carry the gun he used in the shooting.' +++++
Gee, thanks Supt McClueless. That info is pertinent exactly how? After all you NEVER give that info out after all the gangbanger shootings. So what's the point here, huh, McJersey? A person would have to conclude that you're just trying to vilify all Conceal Carry people by the actions of this guy; 'SEE! He broke the conceal carry law!'.
But unless I'm wrong he violated the law against committing murder, and gun or no gun he would have killed this woman. The fact is, there isn't a law that's been invented that can stop someone whose intent on killing someone else.
Lastly Supt McGunsAreBad, unless I'm wrong --but I'm not-- this jackass is the first CCW permit holder to commit any type of violent crime in the state. And I know you're keeping score!
my only beef with CCW permits is that the holder doesn't have to ID himself as one upon first contact with the police
Question ? Gun registered to who ? I thought Chicago no longer is registering guns.
What's the story ?
You looked very impressive on the news in full uniform at the scene supe.Are we to assume you will be going to all the shootings now or was this one special?Oh,be advised that Illinois law doesn't say anything about a handgun being registered to a C.C.L.,but why would you know that?The law does state if you (or the wife)display your gun in a reckless manner at your daughters traffic stop,shoot at street lights etc. you will go to jail and bye-bye permit.If you would care to spend 16 hours with me I will be happy to run you through the class. All of the above plus many other interesting and fun local,state and federal laws are covered.You will also learn how to "act" when having contact with Police (listen carefully as many Officers have not been trained in C.C.L.laws and a person has no right to resist the Police even if they "think" it is an unlawful arrest...imagine that )why it is a good idea not to carry when you plan to drink booze and also have to pass the same live fire exercise that Officers in the state of Illinois do (paper target only No street lights).I will need you to not have a bad cowboy attitude, not be H.B.D. and no domesticating with the wife in the parking lot if you bring her (or does she already have her permit?) or I will eject you and advise I.S.P. why I did (never had to do this,but there's a first time..)I think this will be a good thing because the media and politicians say that all the bad things that happen are because of the Police and their lack of training. P.S.I often have Police wives/daughters/mothers and other females in the class and you will be expected to render full respect at all times.
McCarthy needs to read general orders: how to apply the CCL law.
Rham has tons of guns with all his security But Yet the Average Citizen is thrown to the wolves
"my only beef with CCW permits is that the holder doesn't have to ID himself as one upon first contact with the police "
And that makes a difference exactly how?
Gun registration is no longer required for citizens Gerry.
Guess you don't get paid enough to know these things.
Clueless leader.
I'm a CCW holder, and it's true - I technically don't have to identify myself to the police if we're having a brief chat. But if we're having more than a few words, I'll identify myself as having one. Same with a traffic stop. I think you're going to find that 99.9% of CCW holders will flat out tell you after more than 10 seconds.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Question ? Gun registered to who ? I thought Chicago no longer is registering guns.
What's the story ?
8/16/2015 11:57:00 AM
McFigurehead has no idea what the law is or the municipal code or the requirements for FOI. He, like Rahm, should never speak off-the-cuff. Both sound unutterably stupid when they ad-lib.
McCarthy just wants to demonize legitimate ccw holders. This guy had a ccw permit. So what? Chances are even if he didn't have a ccw permit, he would have gotten his hands on a gun and killed this woman. What a sad piece of shit. He killed this innocent woman and then turned the gun on him because he didn't feel like facing justice. A true coward.
Hey leave Mcdrinky alone that news was like 3 hangovers ago
Uhhh, permits were not issued Dec 18, 2013. That's about the time they started accepting applications. Instructors were first wave issued, and that wasn't until early March, 2014.
And I *still* haven't committed any crimes with my permit. Mine must be broken.
Unfortunately CCW only protects against criminal threats and not media threats. Thank you once again SCC for highlighting some built-in bulls#!t media bias here.
Just A Civilian
@ 11:39am so ask if they are carrying as your first contact...
Didnt Garry also say that CPD would be gunning down CCW by the bushel... mistaking them for gang bangers? That did not happen. For 11:39. When you run a 28 if the 27 is attached, it tells you that the person is a permit holder. The NRA did not want the police to know that ahead of time, as they were concerned that the police would profile CCW holders... which does not happen...
I do wish that former potatoe head quinn would comment about this .. Father Flager? Rham? you guys want to chime in oin what did not happen?
asshats
Hey Garry - Quite a few comments have been directed at your lack of knowledge of firearm related legislation. Your ignorance is similar to Baltimore City Attorney Mosby who was unaware of the difference regarding State & City laws concerning knifes. Since you are a crack shot at streetlights - perhaps you should brush up on firearms laws before you open your mouth. If you want to vilify CCW holders you should at least know that Chicago no longer requires gun registration-unless you are the police.
As usual, every time Garry opens his mouth the bullshit flows. You would think that by now he would have some understanding of Illinois law, but no...he's more concerned who is buying the next beer.
I would like to know how the majority of Chicago police feel about conceal carry? I as a permit holder, if stopped by an officer, will immediately inform the officer I am carrying out of courtesy. It isn't mandated that we do this but the majority of us, knowing the stresses of the job you guys have, will inform. Other than that, do you think its a good thing?
Post a Comment
<< Home