And There it Is
- A new Illinois law sets standards on how police departments use body cameras and when the public can see those recordings.
Deadly confrontations involving police officers have spurred calls for police body cameras across the country. On Wednesday, Illinois Governor Bruce Rauner signed into law wide-ranging law enforcement rules for police body cameras, bias-free policing and more data collection on arrests. The new law doesn't mandate body cameras, but does specify how they should be worn, when they have to be turned on and how long recorded videos should be kept.
And the proactive policing killer:
- The new law goes beyond cameras in an effort to address concerns about police conduct. It requires departments to collect data on people who police "stop and frisk" and give those people a detailed receipt explaining why the encounter happened.
Apparently this will include your name and star number. Goodbye street stops, hello report writers. And thanks for chiming in on this one FOP and PBPA. We can see this issue was covered so well and thoroughly on your websites.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:35 AM
162 Comments:
Chicago will get the police department it deserves.
We need a complete slow down...all the way across the board. Not a job action, but answer the radio, give the report if necessary, make the arrest when you have to, and back eachother up. No movers, no parkers, no anov's, NO CONTACT CARDS, no vri. Stick together like NYPD did after those two p.o.'s were murdered. No one cares about us, except us. Let them see. Boss wants numbers, let them put it in writing. None of them will. We have to do something.
Bureaucracy and paperwork and incremental f##kery will be the end of us all. Watch society regulate itself right back to the Frontier Days.
Signed
Not A Cop
Understand that witnesses/victims can request to "shut it off."
Some shred of decency somehow remaining here -- never could understand why 911 tapes of people in extremis were ever released to the slavering MSM except as sheer titillation.
Here --
NYC hospitals ban filming of ER reality TV
August 12, 2015
"New York City hospitals will no longer allow the filming of reality TV in their wards without prior written consent.
"According to the New York Post (http://bit.ly/1JTHjpN ), the Greater New York Hospital Association said in a statement that the ban "effectively puts an end to 'reality TV' in New York's emergency rooms."
"The ban was sparked by an April 2011 accident that claimed the life of an 83-year-old man struck by a garbage truck in Manhattan.
"ABC "NY Med" filmed the efforts to save the victim and the exchanges between the doctors and his relatives. Although the family's faces were obscured, the family said they recognized themselves when the show aired in August 2012.
"Manhattan City Councilman Dan Garodnick says "reality TV has no place in our emergency rooms."
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2015/08/12/nyc-hospitals-ban-filming-er-reality-tv/
Our resident Troll will naturally insist that world satellite coverage with detailed HD video of its next enema is important to the maintenance of public order and a democratic way of life, but that doesn't count.
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As someone said, "Just because you can do something does not mean that you should."
I am doing that Napoleon dynamite "yeeeeeeeesssssssssssss"
Now get your wild, out of control, racist asses out there and interact.
Or else...
And stop making those awful faces when citizens walk up to
you and demand that you smile and look friendly like mere "Public
Servants ought to.
Or else...
Po-leece REALLY gonna have alligator arms now...
Retiring may 2016 thank god. Good luck young officers ur gonna need it. No comment from fop here's one for you get fucked useless
We are so fucked with PC social engineering.
Boy, I would hate to be on a tact/gang/sat team these days.
The police are always the problem. If there were no police we would be able to live in utopia! Let's have no police for one week in all of the big cities and see what utopia looks like. Problem solved!
If a community believes the police are so bad, the police should just pull out and redeploy to the neighborhoods that appreciate them. Then everybody is happy.
You know who does not get blindsided by bills that affect them?
The NRA and Illinois State Rifle Association. They have effective lobbyists and friends in the legislature that keep them informed. Why doesn't Law Enforcement?
I think the politicians should have to wear body cams so we can see what they do all day. The criminals should be forced to wear them as well.
Why do cops pay union dues? So the union can donate to the same politicians that make these stupid laws?
When the exempts actually do this job as most never have, I will consider street stops, but after 26 years of police service to those who don't want it ( you know the districts to which I refer) GFY handle it yourself, I'll give you your magical VIN.
How about schools teaching citizens how to comply with the police?
Well good luck getting anymore street stops out of me.
Looks like parkers & CTA checks it is ...
The new law is just trying to keep police, and the State, out of trouble and/or lawsuits.
No Street stops for me! KMA
The war on police has continued! Any fools out there that do street stops, ought to have their head examined and drug tested! Police work is finished as we know it! I'm not stopping anyone! Just answer the radio! Reactive policing at it's finest!
You Coppers have again been sold down the drain. Just sit on your hands for a while until Trump takes over the White House, and the Domino Effect takes over, and the RINOS and Communist Democrats topple one by one.
You good people better get vocal. I am not going to take my eyes off a group of thugs I just stopped so I can write MY name and star down for them. I stopped them because I believe they were doing something wrong. I stopped them because I believe they are a danger to YOU. I wear a nametag. My car is GPS'd. More than likely I am on the radio on that stop.
I have a family who depends on me and that is just plain dumb.
As someone who is charged with defending LEOs and has done so for many years, I believe this legislation sounds the death knell for any pro active policing. This legislation will create another category of tortious conduct to be exploited by the plaintiffs' lawyers. If an officer makes a stop and does not comply with this statute to the letter, the officer opens him/herself to tort liability and administrative discipline. So, if you see someone suspicious on the street, it would be highly unlikely to stop and inquire given the mandates of the statute and the possible consequences to you as an individual police officer. No officer will want to risk becoming entangled in a lawsuit or disciplinary action because they were acting on their experience to draw a reasonable suspicion about the actions of the suspect. Every move made by the officer will be subject to scrutiny and second guessing by plaintiffs' attorneys and police administration. There is no other profession in this country which is subjected to such oversight. The results of this legislation will become readily apparent and will mirror what has taken place in Baltimore. The police haters and the apathetic majority will get the police service they dictated and demanded. They will be shocked by what they have created.
Fund my pension.
It seems that since Dean Angelo took over at FOP7, that there has been no support for those that pay his salary. That lodge 7 has just completely rolled over and ignores everything and anything that is in the best interest of Lodge 7 members.
It's over.
Bye bye.
Take care.
I'm done.
Haven't read the bill but does it cover what the punishment is if you do not hand out receipts or is that left up to each department?
Ah hell, what I'm I worried about. The department will not provide enough receipt books to go around and you will end up using scrap paper.
The state has just put the template of sterile suburban policing over every one. I've been giving all such encounters a receipt of traffic stop data sheets (has boxes to check to make it a citizen contact sheet)for a decade now. There is no informal way of knowing your area. We are rigid, we are nice, we are generous with report numbers. Life would go on without us reasonably well. But the latter can't be said for every community. Good luck.
I am still going to be a pro-active police officer. All this law states is that we are to document the reason for the stop. No big deal. Body cameras- no big deal. Dogs will be dogs and the workers will work.
does this mean supervisory approval is no longer required/...why would pbpa allow members to approve something which has already been distributed to a member of the public?
Hey look at the bright side. We are the highest paid social workers in the state.
More reason to stay in your climate controlled vehicle where you are safe from law suits.
The mayor & aldermen should also wear a body camera as well as restaurant workers making your food!
Sorry squad, we can't take that job. We are writing out our receipts for the 8 people on this street stop, be clear in 30 min.
If its what the general public wants, so be it. Just follow the guidelines, nothing more. Everything must be reactive now.
We have this nonsense over here urban terrorism is stirring up thugs population innocent citizens will get hurt concealed carry now!
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/08/12/armed-black-panthers-march-in-waller-count-texas-oink-oink-bang-bang/
Where are black leaders speaking out? Obama anything to stop this?
The only 1 person that really speaks out for police everywhere is sheriff David Clarke from Milwaukee an extremely intelligent black man who knows what is happening!
Its no different then what one is suppose to be doing, however maybe people could open there eyes and see those who claim are innocent are the ones putting complaints against police which they turn out to be violent encounters with the police.
http://www.policeone.com/patrol-issues/articles/8701994-Brutal-attack-on-Ala-cop-celebrated-on-social-media/?utm_source=8701885&utm_medium=email&utm_content=TopNewsLeft2Title&utm_campaign=P1Member&nlid=8701885
Brutal attack on Ala. cop celebrated on social media
Wait until one of the "privileged" gets killed. Things will change.
It will be interesting to see how many more people(folks) will be carrying their guns on them, knowing that the police will more than likely not even be getting out of their vehicles. I know that ACLU stop and frisk policy has already had an adverse affect on proactive police work. I am predicting a tremendous increase in all types of crimes , but specifically shootings and robberies. Good ole' Gerry's numbers based CompStat is about to take a huge shit. Hey Rahm, if you thought the "element" was bold as hell now , just wait for things to come. Your tourism is also going to take a shit when people(folks) start getting shot and robbed on the Mag Mile. To all the liberals and police haters who know absolutely nothing NOTHING about being a proactive police officer, you just got the police force that you have always wanted. Just remember this when you or your family become a victim of a crime and you ask yourself ," why weren't the police out there preventing this type of stuff ?" You can thank yourselves for these pussy policies that will only protect criminals.
I've slowly started to tail off on the number of stops I do. The climate has gotten worse and worse and has given the shit heads more and more encouragement to beef or sue just to try and get oaid. I for one, unless given a direct order will no longer give these fools a reason to do so. So sad how this dept has gone down the tube with the union not doing A DAMN THING ABOUT IT.
Hello Mr. Thug life Shithead sir. Here is your receipt. Thank you for your time sir.
The end of proactive police work. The thugs will all be armed now knowing that there is little chance of being stopped. What is wrong with our leaders for they know not what they do. Chaos, crime & thuggery is the new norm. United States of Buffoons.
I got through the first 21 pages and thought my head was going to explode. I love the part that dictates that "officer involved deaths" will be investigated by a lead homicide investigator NOT employees by the agency employing the officer involved in the death. Does that mean that the State Police will now be investigating all of our police shootings where the bad guy dies?
Also the part about Brady cameras sounds like it is geared toward a 10 man suburban police department not one as big as CPD. The reports that need to be generated to the State Police quarterly will call for the creation of an entire unit.
Why bother working and get yourself thrown under the bus?
How simple, Police were the "Problem" all along! "G"
Remember, FOP is a part of the New World Order. Just take a look at the eye on the flag.
Patriots...."follow me".
This is your warning order...Sell you house NOW. Sell your fancy ride NOW. Be ready to move out.
They better triple the report-takers at the 311 Center because there will be a lot more case reports to be completed.
so if the individual stopped/frisked does not get a receipt, do they get a free cup of coffee?
no wonder why their telling us to get event numbers for a community interaction. Their trying to get guys in the habit of doing it so when the cameras finally arrive guys will be in the habit of interacting with the public.
Honestly I don't think their a bad idea every ghetto domestic I go on I will make sure both parties see me adjusting the camera so they see their being recorded .... Should eliminate all ghetto behavior immediately once they see their being recorded!
As for street stops..... Forget about it I'll sit in my marked police vehicle and listen to the savage nation and read the paper!
The Republican party put this closet Democrat in office he is a POS.
Retired a few years ago and I'm one of does that worked a beat car on the last day. Being a working police officer in 2,4,7,10, and back to 4th dist was what I did. Watching what has occured to the street copper is shameful. I think if I were on still on the job, I'd go on the medical, look for sometihing inside or something to get off the street. Just like the shitheads that use the medical system on the department, so would I without hesitation. Don't do a fucken thing and be safe.
Best thing ever!!! No more work!!!
JUST A citizen says: Until we get a President who isn't an America-hating, white-hating, muslim-loving commie, then we are going to have to live with the fact that in addition to all the other above mentioned titles, he also wants to tie the hands of all LE since he loves a good race war.
It used to be fun catching the bad guy for a living. Now, it sucks. Ride this out and retire.
Rainer is joining the anti police band wagon to further his political career. Further selling out this country to benefit himself. Obama the 2nd.
other than being not subject to the FOI act and being far more complex than necessary, it does not seem all that far off.
a lot of police agencies are already creating some kind of record when they interact with people. that does not seem all that outlandish.
it is just different. people don't like change, but eventually get used to it.
That is the absolute end of street stops. No need for receipts while waving at 30mph.
Citizens: Protect thy self. We'll come by and write the report when you get bopped in the kisser. Keep your insurance up to date. This PO won't be violating any one's rights. Not while BLM is the prevailing attitude. You have to be absolutely insane to try to put hands on someone or stop someone these days. Get robbed? Call Flint Taylor, People's Law Office or Loevy & Loevy
What I find interesting is that years ago, politicians were pro law and order. Now, even Republicans are not for law and order. Scott Walker was asked about the black lives matter bullshit in the first GOP debate. Walker is very conservative and even he didn't say it like it is. Rather, he said police need better training. What a cop out. Not a single GOP candidate has said that minorities account for most violent crime and we should throw them in jail. If this is what the politicians and society want then fine. Any officer with half a brain will react and change accordingly.
They effectively just neutered the police.
Fuck this place and these ungrateful politicians.
Municipalities can choose whether to follow this or or not. It won't be applicable in Chicago until the city decides to use it.
Great another silly stat that the bosses will be screaming about regardless of the consequences to the POs. They know they will never be accountable.
I wonder which political donor will get the contract to print all the silly receipts?
It's the end of policing. Good thing Illinois has conceal carry for the good people.
This is nothing but a feel good "check" against the mythological
"Power" that everybody is crying about The Police having too much of.
Dude Inc. is STILL going to run amok.
Dude Inc. is STILL an unchecked, catered-to,
liberal progressive (Trotskyite) democratic voting
solely to keep the entitlements goodies coming-
constituent who serves as a counterweight against
working middle class taxpayers ever being able to
take this city back.
They're laughing at you tax-paying chumps.
They've turned your Police into harmless public safety
customer service associates.
Apparently the problem with The Police was that they
took it upon themselves to aggressively and proactively
go after, hunt down, cage and/or destroy the meanest
and baddest of Bee-Ay-Dee m/fers in the name of
The Law.
What you're witnessing is the changing of The Law
to legislatively re-purpose The Police and the very
idea and ideals of Policing and Public Safety.
Attacking and diminishing The Police and changing
The Law without honestly addressing unchecked,
prolific and wanton criminality - especially on the streets
of America's democrat controlled urban centers, can be
cynically taken as the "Fundamental Change" that was
promised for America in November of 2008.
With more, bigger and no doubt "better" changes to come.
Funny...
The Police have been caged and permanently
separated from the public good will while the
perpetual criminal underclass is welcomed
with cheers, back-slaps and fist-bumps.
Natural progression...
You make war on your Police,
you gotta come to terms and
accommodations with the
criminal underclass.
PWhat next?
Criminals getting taxpayer subsidized
health care and other benefits?
We'd love to live long enough to see society turn on
it's currently beloved criminals in the same fashion
they turned on their Police.
Police like you have no friends.
Survive.
Escape.
WTF, Hey Gov, why don't you make a remote effort to educate folks on conduct on street stops. What about hands on police? There's a law on the books about resisting, if you want to repeal it then do it.
Politics....anything for a vote
You want less police involvement, well enjoy....better get a lot of chalk, its on sale for the back to school crowd.
I have two arrest for the last three years. Those were shoplifting. You can save all the shame on me or dog catcalls. I say shame on YOU!
Remember this, no street stops = no problems.....
I am still going to be a pro-active police officer. All this law states is that we are to document the reason for the stop. No big deal. Body cameras- no big deal. Dogs will be dogs and the workers will work.
8/13/2015 06:47:00 AM
Enjoy being fired or federal prison when you're made the example.
Dean is pro camera. He said so at a past FOP meeting.
If I have to give some piece of excrement a receipt when I stop him to justify to him why he was stopped, then I will never stop anyone again.
To all the officers that say its no big deal dogs will be dogs anyway. I will NOT buy a ticket to your benefit. Idiots
Been following the plummet in the NYPD's proactive policing activity in the wake of their new "stop-and-frisk" guidelines and increased scrutiny (NY Daily News 6/5 "stop-and-frisk encounters are on pace to plunge by 42% this year, with 20,000 fewer street stops"). Chicagoans could be in for a rude awakening soon as crime is concerned (NY Daily News "murders spiked 19.5% during the first five months of the year, the number of people shot is up 9.2% and the number of shooting incidents jumped 9%"). Good luck.
Combine this receipt bullshit with the wearing of a body camera and that's the end of proactive policing. Last one out please turn off the lights.
We live in an age of No Privacy. These receipts will lead to criminals appearing at your door because in this age of the internet; anyone's home address is available. Photos of your home are available to anyone. Something terrible is going to happen to a police officer or his family. Sure we signed arrest reports in the past, but this is different. Anyone who makes a proactive stop under these rules is a fool. Apparently the Politicians and the Media want to believe that the Police Are The Problem. The quality of life in Illinois, was just flushed down the toilet. "G"
"so if the individual stopped/frisked does not get a receipt, do they get a free cup of coffee?"
8/13/2015 08:40:00 AM
Individual serving of Flamin Red Hots, pickle-in-a-bag, and choice of purple drank or sweet tea will be issued out.
Cost of receipts will be partially offset by advertising printed on them. "A&B Micro Hair Weave," "A.R. Leak Funeral Homes," etc.
I'm predicting a mass exodus on tact teams and sat teams. Who wants to give these people more ammo to sue us with. Fuck this job.
8/13/2015 06:46:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am still going to be a pro-active police officer. All this law states is that we are to document the reason for the stop. No big deal. Body cameras- no big deal. Dogs will be dogs and the workers will work.
8/13/2015 06:47:00 AM
Said SCC's resident troll...
so if the individual stopped/frisked does not get a receipt, do they get a free cup of coffee?
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Outstanding brother. Maybe a free $50.00 gift card from the city to buy grape pop and chips for a week. Got to love this blog...
What will 1020/1070 do when he tells those under his command and control that he is conducting a contact card mission and his troops tell him to stfu and do it yourself? Officers remember if there is no lawful reason to stop a person don't violate someone's constitutional rights to satisfy any supervisor.
Stay safe.
Col Hanibal Smith.
I told my team. Just get a bunch of new pens, And respond with the goal of just writing a report. No one has ever been fired for doing normal Responding and following the traffic laws getting to a call. Just look out for each other. Entitlement Community policing each other shows every day and weekend. Let the Community serve street justice to each other.
Hey Man, When I get me 10 receipts, Do I put em ina book like the ol green stamp program? Where do I bring em for my valuable prizes? Do I git a catalog at the district community office? I am so really confussed. If a homie gets some receipts can they be combined with my follks receipts for even bigger stuff, maybe like a ride?
OT. I just saw the picture in the Slum-Times of Commander Bubble-Head throwing out the first pitch at the White Sox game. I hears after throwing out the pitch he immediately stole home.
Here are the 50 with badges you can contact
http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/about/wards.html
Like the goofy alderwannabepolice who got punched by a tranny "youse gotta pay bro" ask alderman for personal cell phone number to call when you need response "don't call police call your courageous alderman!"
Let's see since Dean took office he has complained about the tatoo order and CR lists. Everything else pension, cameras and contract issues the city violates he does nothing. This is the worst leadership i have seen in close to thirty years. Dean is no better or worse then Obama, Holder, Rauner and Emmanuel
Lots of arrest get tossed out in branch court, judges aren't following the law and are under sentencing people, and those that get time are not even doing half of it. Combine that with receipts for stops, body cameras and no support from the bosses, politicians etc. You have to ask yourself, is it worth it? And What's the point?
8/13/2015 09:30:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
JUST A citizen says: Until we get a President who isn't an America-hating, white-hating, muslim-loving commie, then we are going to have to live with the fact that in addition to all the other above mentioned titles, he also wants to tie the hands of all LE since he loves a good race war.
8/13/2015 09:30:00 AM
But only 1 man with different ideas Trump! The more liberals and democratic morons hate him the more he is liked!
Street stop? What's a street stop. Haven't done one in years. Today you can only stop white folk, the minority is forbidden..
What happens at a domestic when both victim and offender are on scene. Do I stop play when listening to the victim? Do I start play with the offender? These roles change during the fact finding sequence at a domestic call or most disturbance calls.
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Understand that witnesses/victims can request to "shut it off."
OT --
Everyone's looking for the Fireball in the Ghetto Lottery --
On eve of embassy opening, Fidel Castro says U.S. owes Cuba 'millions'
August 13, 2015
"Havana, Cuba – Former Cuban president Fidel Castro is turning 89 today, incidentally on the eve of the historic reopening of the U.S. embassy in Havana, and he is not short on present requests — he is asking the United States to pay “many, many millions of dollars” to the island nation for its hostile policies since the 1959 communist revolution.
"In his “Reflections” column published Thursday in the official newspaper, Granma, Castro writes “Cuba is owed compensation, the equivalent of damages, amounting to many, many millions of dollars, as our country has reported and irrefutably documented at the United Nations."
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2015/08/13/fidel-castro-turns-8-and-has-just-one-wish-millions-dollars-in-us-reparations/#
Reparations? Just be happy you weren't vaporized for what you were doing down there.
http://darkroom.baltimoresun.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/KRT-US-NEWS-CUBANCRISIS-50YEARS-2-MCT.jpg
Now somebody wheel this old fool back to his room.
This is a horrible policy for the police & the people who support and depend on the police for protection. Seems these new BS laws have been created to protect and coddle the thug class. Let me tell you, MOST people in the city of Chicago appreciate everything that you do and WANT you to do proactive policing.
The other day, while walking my dog, I saw this insane-looking thug walking down the street. Needless to say, I quickly got myself out of his path, and observed as he aimlessly ambled down the street, swinging his arms all over the place, shouting at no one in particular...looked like he tried a doorknob on the side door of a condo building across the street.
This guy was clearly on something and/or mentally ill. He was filthy, wearing clothes that were too warm for a hot August day. He clearly DID NOT live or belong in this neighborhood.
But thanks to these ridiculous new laws, he and others like him will be free to roam - and terrorize - any neighborhood they choose.
Why is it that law-abiding folks have to put up with criminals and thugs, and fear for are safety. Something is clearly wrong here, when the thugs and criminals have more rights and get more protection under the law than we do.
why should we read the 174 page monstrosity when not 1 single legislator who votes on it will read it ?
So let Gang Bangers keep their guns no Stops,Let the Homicides go thru the roof.
so if the individual stopped/frisked does not get a receipt, do they get a free cup of coffee?
8/13/2015 08:40:00 AM
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No, but you get 30 days off from work.
This might actually have an interesting affect on policing here in Chicago. This will more than likely be the end to at least 50-90% of street stops. However, I can see them creating a larger traffic unit and putting them in the hood. Only traffic stops. Everyone gets a ticket. More DUIs/DWIs, impounds, suspended, revoked, etc etc. Can also see them eventually beefing up narcotics even more. More long term investigation teams. I dunno... It's just a thought.
I am still going to be a pro-active police officer. All this law states is that we are to document the reason for the stop. No big deal. Body cameras- no big deal. Dogs will be dogs and the workers will work.
8/13/2015 06:47:00 AM
Signed 1 year on the job
Anonymous said...
Chicago will get the police department it deserves.
8/13/2015 12:47:00 AM
Well, then they will have to hire 2000 more police officers....
Currently there are officers working VRI overtime just to CONTAIN the violence.
The body camera will not reduce violence, just capture some wild video.
Bye Bye just 1.5 yrs left
It used to be fun catching the bad guy for a living. Now, it sucks. Ride this out and retire.
8/13/2015 09:32:00 AM
Well said, brother.
I would like to see Mike Madigan wear a body camera. Can you imagine all the insider deals and broken laws that would be seen? I SUPPORT BODY CAMERAS FOR POLITICIANS. They are public servants after all.
Donald Trump and ted Cruz are the only ones that won't pander to the liberal masses. They have balls. The rest are pussies.
California bans grand juries in fatal shootings by police
By Tracey Kaplan tkaplan@mercurynews.com
Wednesday, Aug. 12, 2015 - 7:20 a.m.
retired judge and former San Jose independent police auditor LaDoris Cordell, the first African-American appointed as a judge in Northern California and a key supporter of the bill. "We're not trying to get more officers indicted. We're saying, 'Whatever you decide, do it in the open.'"
http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_28621966/gov-brown-oks-nations-1st-ban-grand-juries
I was against Quinn, but Rauner was all talked up that he was so much better, but now he vowed to reduce prison population by 25% and now this, with cameras, Republican OR Democrat, they ALL against cops. Lets get our head out of butts, and realize that Republicans (or Democrats) are not the savior.
Give the politicians a taste of their own stupidity. This is what they want. Do nothing and watch crime spike. protect yourself and your family. It will all go to shit
We need a complete slow down...all the way across the board. Not a job action, but answer the radio, give the report if necessary, make the arrest when you have to, and back eachother up. No movers, no parkers, no anov's, NO CONTACT CARDS, no vri. Stick together like NYPD did after those two p.o.'s were murdered. No one cares about us, except us. Let them see. Boss wants numbers, let them put it in writing. None of them will. We have to do something.
8/13/2015 12:47:00 AM
That's sounds like an excellent idea. However I don't know if that kind of soliderity could ever happen within the CPD. We've got to many fools who've drank the kool aide and believe it. Thirsty for those arrests and contact cards... Not to mention the butt kissers looking to make merit someday. Old school policing is dying. And so are the bosses who knew how to manage.
Why do cops pay union dues? So the union can donate to the same politicians that make these stupid laws?
8/13/2015 01:45:00 AM
So they can eat at Ruth's Chris steak house on our dollar!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Boy, I would hate to be on a tact/gang/sat team these days.
8/13/2015 01:06:00 AM
Are you kidding?. Tact has never been so easy. No arrests, no stops, write 1 anov every day and respond to the shootings and get info for the bosses report. Piece of cake.
Wtf!!
011 is blowing up! Shootings and murders everyday!!!
Whatever. You want me to give a receipt for frisking people just so they can sue me? Guess what, they aren't getting frisked. If they end up walking away and killing someone with something I would have caught had I frisked them, guess what, not my fault. I was just respecting their rights. In fact, it's not my neighborhood either. I'll do my time and then go back home, a whole world away. Will someone keep track of the crime stats now and then when this law kicks in?
Automate the court system. Replace the judges with computers. Let's get rid of the judges and make the judicial system a system we can all trust. The laws are already written. How hard could it be? And think of all the money savings in pensions and health care Cook County tax payers would save.
They can NOT fire you for NOT doing street stops. If that's how they want it, then fine.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It used to be fun catching the bad guy for a living. Now, it sucks. Ride this out and retire.
8/13/2015 09:32:00 AM
Yes, it was!! Grateful I retired, because the job is no longer about truth, justice and the American way.
How about schools teaching citizens how to comply with the police?
8/13/2015 01:50:00 AM
Because nobody wants to go there.... it's much easier to vilify the police.
Ex PO here due to off duty injury. A little bit of me died each day since i was forced to turn in my star. Now I glad im glad im off the job. I wouldn't be able to work in this climate. This new law is beyond ridiculous. This city, state and country is going to hell in a hand basket. 13 percent of the population has been emboldened by this liberal mentality.Encourage your children to move far away and seek out a different career path. For those still working-take a report. Do nothing else.
"I am predicting a tremendous increase in all types of crimes , but specifically shootings and robberies. Good ole' Gerry's numbers based CompStat is about to take a huge shit."
Probably not since the "official numbers" that they report now are not a realistic representation of the crime that is taking place. No victim, no crime. Make them wait long enough and they will go away. If Chicago Magazine thought that the city was hiding crime before, they haven't seen anything yet. Too bad the Tribune, Sun Times and BGA haven't received permission from Rahm to report it.
Every street stop should be conducted as a Frank Mathey style "man on the street" interview with large hand held microphone you can shove right in the face of the individual stopped. And halfway through the stop, you can pause and address the crowd/audience like Phil Donahue used to with a hearty "Now let me ask the group a question" followed up with a "your thoughts?" to the stupidest looking onlooker at the scene. And concluded with a "We'll be right back with more after this short time out" That would be entertaining.
Anonymous said...
I am still going to be a pro-active police officer. All this law states is that we are to document the reason for the stop. No big deal. Body cameras- no big deal. Dogs will be dogs and the workers will work.
8/13/2015 06:47:00 AM
Atta boy!Go get 'em!!Let me know when they have a fundraiser for you so I can miss it.Dogs will be dogs with a pension....
I am still going to be a pro-active police officer. All this law states is that we are to document the reason for the stop. No big deal. Body cameras- no big deal. Dogs will be dogs and the workers will work.
8/13/2015 06:47:00 AM
Hey stupid!
I'll remember this comment when your friends throw a benefit for you, after you step in shit!
I will NOT by a raffle ticket for your dumb ass!
KMA 20+
Why do we even pay union dues?
Lol the dope boys will have hundreds of receipts and collect an aclu christmas class action bonus.sad truth
Re: I am still going to be a pro-active police officer. All this law states is that we are to document the reason for the stop. No big deal. Body cameras- no big deal. Dogs will be dogs and the workers will work.
8/13/2015 06:47:00
It's not about being a dog or a worker you simpleton. It's about not risking your own family's welfare. Either you don't have loved ones or you're an idiot. Are you deaf & blind to what is happening. Wake the hell up!!
The State of Illinois sucks. Gotta be one of the worst places to live.
Who fucking cares anymore..American policing ended when the media created the hands up don't shoot narrative..it's over..if you wanna work more power to you..I respect you..but the war on the police,whites,and Christians will roll along forever until we are all dead..or civil war actually breaks out. Even if Obama doesn't get a third term by executive order he will never go away.. 1776-2008 rip
Politicians are the most dangerous thing to a strong society. They cause so much damage just to stay in power. From financial problems, pension problems, budgetary, and now the safety of the honest public. Criminals are smiling ear to ear. They see the doors open wider for business. First lack of hiring/manpower then a pro criminal court system, pro criminal legislature and executive office, continued demoralization of police, continuous beatdown by the media spewing half truths, and now more sillyness and restrictions. It's over Johnny!
Well good luck getting anymore street stops out of me.
Looks like parkers & CTA checks it is ...
8/13/2015 02:57:00 AM
Well then, you've just played into Rham's hands. Your afraid to interact with the public so Rahm don't have to worry about citizen complaints and bad press. Instead, you will go out and write tickets and bring revenue to the Mayor. How does it feel to get played by that politician?
10 Hour Days Coming ... in November
By DeaNo's Executive Decision to Void our Contract
*Just like Furlough by Watch
Armed Black Panther thugs marching on sheriff's office great ending to kill police and nobody goes to jail..........Wow!!
OT --
Union: Pistol-whipped detective didn't shoot attacker because of headlines
9:09 PM ET, Thu August 13, 2015
"(CNN)Basically, the policeman didn't want to be the next Darren Wilson or Ray Tensing.
"A Birmingham, Alabama, police detective who was pistol-whipped unconscious last week didn't shoot a motorist later accused of attacking him because of the headlines and outcry surrounding the recent spate of police shootings, the head of the local police union said Thursday.
"He hesitated simply because of what's going on in society right now," said Heath Boackle, a sergeant with the Birmingham Police Department and president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police. "We have officers walking on eggshells because of how they're scrutinized in the media."
"We should be thanking the good Lord because he could be dead right now."
"Police Chief A.C. Roper sees the episode -- as well as the reaction, including celebratory and vitriolic comments posted online alongside images of the wounded officer -- as symptomatic of a larger problem, in which some don't respect law enforcement.
"The nobility and integrity of policing has been challenged," Roper said. "As a profession, we have allowed popular culture to draft a narrative which is contrary to the amazing work that so many officers are doing everyday across this nation."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/us/alabama-birmingham-police-detective-pistol-whipped/index.html
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A report in 020 for locker broken into in the police locker room! Does anyone have details ????
OT: SCC, feel free to post this as a separate blog entry:
Today, we say goodbye to Father John Sullivan. He is apparently leaving the Chicago Archdiocese, and going West to Oklahoma if I was told correctly.
Given the way the Chicago Archdiocese is going, methinks Father John is trading up. Still though, it is a loss for us and especially me. He was there when my Mother died. He counseled me about my rocky relationship with my wife, and I took communion from him, humbly.
I only found out about this by accident as I called Rabbi Wolfe to inform him of a severely injured CCSPD Sergeant resulting from a 10-50-PI 2 nights ago. He is pretty banged up, but G-- Willing he will make a full recovery. I thought it appropriate to tell Father Sullivan and the Rabbi since they serve G-- in many ways including ministering to sick and injured County Policemen and Deputies, and RP certainly needed this.
What bothers the heck out of me is the total lack of concern about Pastoral Care for our Policemen.
Our brothers in CPD seem to have this well in hand with Father Brandt, Rabbi Wolfe, and the cadre of men and women that minister to the CPD. And you should thank your lucky stars for this!
There was enough gold stars at Christ Hospital to fill a goldmine! Nary a Police Chaplin though.
The Sheriff seems that he couldn't care less. The department needs a system in place where POLICE CHAPLINS are summoned when the department/radio room learn of this. When Deputy Timo Estrada was killed just before Christmas 2 years ago. Same deal. No show. We had a Detective stricken with Cancer. Same deal, no notification. Our Detectives called them and asked what the heck happened. They replied that neither of them got notified. Later, They stripped the Rabbi and Father Sullivan of their credentials!?!? Really Sheriff? With CCW out there and umpteen thousands of people carrying weapons now, this was a big show stopper for you? And by the way both of them especially the Rabbi can out shoot most of us from the word go. He repeatedly wins the Shomrim shoot. And don't get me started on all the non-police, rich folks, liberal activists, puppy and hooker huggers all sporting badges. It is worse now than under Elrod or O'Grady. Bet on that.
Father Sullivan (who I met while I was a parishioner at St. Father Thomas More) told me that they the department wanted them to minister to the inmates as well as our Officers. Stop right there. There is a difference between a prison ministry and a Police Chaplin. Apples and Oranges. And no disrespect to credible prison chaplins either. But, Since the Father and the Rabbi did not want to change their M.O (and ironically answer to some storefront reverend with a bigger phone call to the 7th floor).
Sorry for the long post. This really bothers me and since we can't seem to raise a blog of our own without it going into the sewer I came over. Like I said, thank your lucky stars for Father Brandt and Rabbi Wolfe. They ought to raise a statue for these men, Father Nangle and Father John.
Thanks for your time.
The only reason that people still apply for police jobs in this anti police climate, is that jobs are getting harder to find for the average middle class person. People are becoming obsolete in the 21st century. Computers and robots now do the jobs that people did a decade or two ago.
Police starting pay of 55k and up is still decent, and still competitive with what college grads get, plus overtime always seems available. Just learn to adapt with the current climate. If they don't want proactive policing, give them what they want. Be like the firemen and sit around waiting for the calls.
Quite!Dean Angelo will file a grievance its all an unfair labor practice! Right Dean! Wake up! you handicapped union president! What did you have expect membership the majority of you voted this disabled union member into office! Hello Dean, wake up!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am still going to be a pro-active police officer. All this law states is that we are to document the reason for the stop. No big deal. Body cameras- no big deal. Dogs will be dogs and the workers will work.
8/13/2015 06:47:00 AM
Don't strain your shoulder reaching around to pat yourself on the back.
Hello BaltiCago. As if recording everything on the dashcams with microphones, POD cameras, GPS on the squad, GPS on radios and everyone on the street pointing their camera phones at you isn't enough.
Every man for himself. Protect yourself, your family and your house.
DBEL
Retired here, Guys the most important thing is to protect yourself and your partner. That being said its time to give them the police department that they want, They cater to the feral beast, they mourn with them over the death of Brown and Gardner, they ignore evidence testimony, and fact in favor of a slogan "Hands up" which was and is still a lie as is "I cant breath" The so called good people are laying down and letting the left have its say with no challenges to "Hands up" they hold no newspaper no television news accountable for printing and promoting lies. You have no choice but to give them what they want. Sad but true.
TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT!!! End this political correctness BS
I retired 7 mos ago - got out in the nick of time - wouldn't consider this job if I was 22 again . Here's a thought though : say you see a group of democrats in need of attention . Instead of getting out of ur car , just follow em around for a while . When the bold one walks up and asks why ur harassing them , just act astonished , tell em u like architecture and that ur admiring the buildings . You initiated nothing and u get to skip the BS paperwork .
I recently acquired a set of horse blinders from the Mounted Unit. I'm going to strap those to my face before I go out on patrol. Bangers getting heated over a dice game? Didn't see it. I'll come back later and do paper for a "person shot" like a two-fingered keyboard jockey. Thanks ACLU for making my job so much easier! And remember..."black lives matter" (wink wink).
To 9:30 AM, you are so right. Oboma is a commie/socialist/marxist and wants to cause chaos in this country so he can call Marshall Law and lock down the the people and take over this country completely. That's why Oboma told police depts. in Ferguson and Baltimore to stand down and let the rioters have their way. Obama wants to nationalize the police in this country, and that is why he is making it impossible for the police to do their jobs..he is siding with the rioters, who, by the way, are being funded and organized by numerous commnunist organizations..Google who is funding and organizing the riots in Ferguson and Baltimore to get the list of names of these Leftist organization. Oboma, being a commie/socialist/marxist, is behind all of this. This POS traitor who hates this country must be stopped. Remember the 2016 elections, and the name of Ted Cruz, a Conservative who is running for President. He will stop this insanity and return our country to the land of the free and home of the brave. Check out Conservative Review.com to check on how each Conservative stands on all of the horrific issues we are facing in this country.
I am still going to be a pro-active police officer. All this law states is that we are to document the reason for the stop. No big deal. Body cameras- no big deal. Dogs will be dogs and the workers will work.
Are you not paying attention? Do you want to be on the wrong side of history? Cops are being crucified nowadays for doing their job and you could soon be on the slab. All for what? An arrest? I don't care what kind of arrest it is, its not worth it. This isn't about doing your job or doing the right thing. This is about covering your ass. If you're stopping these assholes, you're only sticking your head out to get it cut off. Lawyers are the only ones who benefit from your proactive work. Stop feeding them. I made over 1700 arrests, most of them during my first 8 years when I was brainwashed into thinking it was the right thing to do. Now you won't catch me putting handcuffs on somebody unless its completely necessary(signed complaints or domestic with visible injuries). All you're doing is kicking yourself in the teeth. Have fun working while some fool who never did 8 hours of work gets promoted over you because of their clout, race or gender.
Well then, you've just played into Rham's hands. Your afraid to interact with the public so Rahm don't have to worry about citizen complaints and bad press. Instead, you will go out and write tickets and bring revenue to the Mayor. How does it feel to get played by that politician?
Are you fucking serious? What about the fraudulent lawsuits Rahm's friends file against the city due to coppers making stops and locking people up just so their asses end up in corporation counsel over a bullshit cr#. This is what you call getting played by a politician.
To the tough guy proactive copper...There is a guy in 005 who by the federal juries own admission stated he followed every local, state, and federal law ..plus all department rules and regulations, yet they believed the offender should not have been tased. The copper has had his wages garnished and is paying off the offenders lawyer to the tune of $700 a month..until he pays off 190,000...keep being proactive stroke,,, corporation counsel fucked him big time!
8/13/2015 09:25:00 PM
Thank you for your time also...
Be sure to check out www.copblock.org if you want to see what America is thinking.
Oh quit your bitching you pansies. Get out there and work.
Supreme commander Tigera.
It will be like being on cops now only instead of the usual audience it will be some shit face's lawyer and rahm. The lawyer tapping his foot with his hand out and rahm writing a check! And YOU being fucked in the background! How many of ya's have watched that show and spotted shit that these animals could sue for/things that could end up getting the copper in shit nowadays? Most of the one's I've spotted are street stops but then again I don't watch much. Gone are the days of saps and a hickory stick carried by a motherfucker that demanded order and stopped a lot of shit before it could happen. All these changes based on a bunch of bs and lies that keep being brought up and protested about. Say what ya want about the daley's, fuck them. But at least the old man had balls and would handle these days with them.
Well good luck getting anymore street stops out of me.
Looks like parkers & CTA checks it is ...
8/13/2015 02:57:00 AM
Well then, you've just played into Rham's hands. Your afraid to interact with the public so Rahm don't have to worry about citizen complaints and bad press. Instead, you will go out and write tickets and bring revenue to the Mayor. How does it feel to get played by that politician?
It will feel a lot better than a Federal Law suit - that's for sure. Interacting with the public - and dealing with Thugs are two different things my friend. Either you're not the police or never worked in a ghetto district.
TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT!!! End this political correctness BS
8/13/2015 11:36:00 PM
Yes! The FOP needs new leadership!!!
Wtf!!
011 is blowing up! Shootings and murders everyday!!!
8/13/2015 03:34:00 PM
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It's called Lt DHM on days!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am still going to be a pro-active police officer. All this law states is that we are to document the reason for the stop. No big deal. Body cameras- no big deal. Dogs will be dogs and the workers will work.
8/13/2015 06:47:00 AM
Ok hero, do us one favor don't pull your bullshit if you're working with a PPO. Dummy.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dean is pro camera. He said so at a past FOP meeting.
8/13/2015 10:49:00 AM
$$$$$$$
Well unless he addressed it somewhere other than general meeting your comment is bullshit. What he said was we may not be able to stop it but if it goes in to effect we should get something in return. What that was is to be able to review your footage before you have to write paper. Otherwise the city could use the tapes at anytime to get you on a rule 14 violation.
Boys and girls believe with your own eyes and ears come to meetings and do not depend on your info from someone an axe to grind.
Well good luck getting anymore street stops out of me.
Looks like parkers & CTA checks it is ...
8/13/2015 02:57:00 AM
Well then, you've just played into Rham's hands. Your afraid to interact with the public so Rahm don't have to worry about citizen complaints and bad press. Instead, you will go out and write tickets and bring revenue to the Mayor. How does it feel to get played by that politician?
It will feel a lot better than a Federal Law suit - that's for sure. Interacting with the public - and dealing with Thugs are two different things my friend. Either you're not the police or never worked in a ghetto district.
Well actually I was the ghetto Police for over 30 years and I experienced the CR's, the lawsuits and all of the nonsense that goes along with it. I survived it all and so can you, it is not that hard to justify what your doing!
A report in 020 for locker broken into in the police locker room! Does anyone have details ????
8/13/2015 09:21:00 PM
Yes! In summary,a locker was broken into in 020.
OT. I just saw the picture in the Slum-Times of Commander Bubble-Head throwing out the first pitch at the White Sox game. I hears after throwing out the pitch he immediately stole home.
8/13/2015 12:14:00 PM
Pretty funny...probably true tho
Does anyone know who was the author of this law...which politicians had their hand in writing this. We need to understand where this comes from.
It will definitely lower the arrest rates for the 13%. Then they can all say, see we told all along that crime was committed equally.
14 Aug 11:43 am - "my own eyes & ears" see Deano & FLOP with a website that is seldom updated, a newsletter with no substantial news and events which have already transpired, utter silence in Springfield & Council Chambers when bills such as Stop & Frisk, reparations to the Burge "victims" and the decimation of the pensions are being debated. The entire "endorsement" process/mailed ballots/decision not to endorse for the mayoral election was pitiful. This supposed PhD has the leadership acumen of an 8th grade student council president. A former FLOP Pres. with an executive position at the Park District. This is what i see & hear with my own eyes & ears.
My heart tells me NOT TO PAY MY RETIRED DUES.
To the tough guy proactive copper...There is a guy in 005 who by the federal juries own admission stated he followed every local, state, and federal law ..plus all department rules and regulations, yet they believed the offender should not have been tased. The copper has had his wages garnished and is paying off the offenders lawyer to the tune of $700 a month..until he pays off 190,000...keep being proactive stroke,,, corporation counsel fucked him big time!
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The lawyer doesn't believe there are consequences for his actions. You can only push someone so far before he has nothing else to loose. Our forefathers fought and died for a lot less.
To the tough guy proactive copper...There is a guy in 005 who by the federal juries own admission stated he followed every local, state, and federal law ..plus all department rules and regulations, yet they believed the offender should not have been tased. The copper has had his wages garnished and is paying off the offenders lawyer to the tune of $700 a month..until he pays off 190,000...keep being proactive stroke,,, corporation counsel fucked him big time!
8/14/2015 03:56:00 AM
Parkers , Cta checks and the occasional report that's good enough for me. Thanks for putting the above story out there!!!! There are a lot of officers out there who think if I play by the rules nothing can go wrong.... I disagree. It's a different day. They will always find something wrong with what you did. An officer's word use to be worth something. TODAY THE OFFENDER IS ALWAYS RIGHT, EVEN WHEN HE IS WRONG!!!!!
Interested in the guy from 005 that is paying off $190,00. Anywhere to get more info?
People this is happening all across America, in towns and cities from 100k and more the STOPPING of proactive policing is occuring and rightfully so. This will not end, continue for min of five years. It has profound effects, to include "flight" from these areas. The good people who can afford will move, regardless of race. The elderly rates of victimization will double in 10 years and triple after 15 years, as the savages pick of the weak and those financially stick in these areas, due to the baby boomers getting older. (Look at England).
The issue with the body camera is this: your camera will never catch what your eyes see! So u jump out of a car and do a stop, in the end u articulate what you saw, but the camera got your dashboard or your partners shoulder, it never showed the guy 45 yards out on the side of the street waving the GUN.....TRUST ME ON THIS ...YOUR GONNA GET BURNED!
Interested in the guy from 005 that is paying off $190,00. Anywhere to get more info
Call corp counsel true story,,,
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