Typical - No Backup Plan
- If Springfield fails to deliver $500 million in pension reform that Chicago Public Schools is counting on to balance its books, new CEO Forrest Claypool said he doesn’t have a Plan B.
Class sizes could go up during the second semester and more staff could be laid off, Claypool told the Chicago Sun-Times on Tuesday. But pressed for details of any contingency plan, given the lack of support so far from the governor or the powerful House speaker on the bill that passed the Senate Tuesday, he said, “No comment.”
Scare tactics and blackmail to get blood from a stone.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:10 AM
34 Comments:
Plan B is easy - CUT SPENDING.
No compassion here for the CPS or for Chicago for that matter. There have been YEARS of total waste and corruption and as the Southside Reverend put it, "the chickens have come back home to roost."
They should cap ALL pensions at $80,000. If you make MORE than that, you get cut. The teachers, who have ALWAYS found ways to "game the system", need to be cut as well.
No Gold-Braid BS add-ons for CPD or double-dipping two pensions either.
The other alternative is to throw it all up in the air and declare bankruptcy. Would the HOGS take a little less to make the Pension Fund right OR is it "GIVE ME MINE" and screw everyone else?
Unfortunately, that is what it's going to come down to and someone making $100,000-$130,000 as a retired teacher is going to say, "Fuck it, I am not taking any less." so they will fuck it up for everyone else.
No one is denying someone a pension, but pensions the size of lottery jackpot pay outs are unsustainable.
ALL government pensions should have a cap on them at $80,000 a year and no one should be collecting two or three of them.
Problem solved.
The Democrats should stop trying to get illegal aliens to come to Chicago, Cook County, and Illinois. The citizens of this state are losing out due to the billions spent on illegals.
Rahm just doesn't want to touch his slush fund:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2015/07/24/looking-for-rahms-hidden-tif-stash
An honest administrator would resign in digrace for his demonstrated incompetence, but this is Fail-cago, the city that used to work!
Cut all those BS contracts and cut half the bloated Administrative employees. That'll save a ton o' bucks.
Their only backup plan is more taxes.
Rumor has it that the ctu will be gone within a couple years. The teachers will then be a part of the state teachers union along with whatever monies they have in their pension fund. Thereby taking Chicago tax payers off the hook from funding two different teachers unions pension funds.
what plan B could there be?
most of the spending cuts that could be made would be in staff if some kind of relief on pension costs can't be acquired and staff cuts just are not going to be politically popular.
there is no way a serious tax increase is happening.
No big loss. By all accounts most Chicago schools don't do a very good job anyway.
Let it burn baby they are not learning anything anyway graduates are not getting any jobs so just take a year off students, teachers, administrators and rebuild the whole system. Everyone can go to school a year longer in the rebuilt modern learning system. Think of the money that will be saved!
Yes, the teachers pay practically nothing for health care and only 2% for their pension. A good place to start is for them to pay what other government and private employees pay. But, wait, they are special and anything that they get is " for the children".
Speaking as a teacher, I'd be more open to a higher contribution if I had any trust in the city to manage the funds. Claypool did have the Park District budget balanced, iirc, but politicians here are parasites, and Emmanuel was out to bust the union from day 1. School board should be elected and have their salaries and perks drastically reduced.
Wait. How can this be?
Rahm's camp repeatedly criticized Chuy as having no plan and now Rahm and his yes men have repeatedly stated they have no plan B for any of these extremely important matters.
During the campaign the lapdog media blindly covered the Rahm message of Chuy "having no plan" without ever pinning Rahm down on a plan B. Of course the Sheeple took what Rahm's camp and the media said as gospel and we're stuck with this ego maniacal asshole again.
Sell the vacant schools to developers mediately, cal teacher pay, kick out the illegal immigrants and their kids.
Just doing those things could go a long way.
whoa, Whoa, WHOA SCC!
You see... Your pointy observations, clearly drawn illustrations and
bright illumination are the main reasons why local elected officialdom
are vigorously flapping their dick-beaters about bestowing a whole host
of "above and beyond" investigatory and subpoena powers (thereby
Intentionally/illegally side-stepping & overreaching those processes already
in place ;^) to the nasty alphabet soup of politically driven entities tasked
with keeping wild-assed, Blue Suited free-thinkers like YOU (SCC & the
collective "Spirits of The Air") closely in check.
You need to stop all that truth tellin' an' light shinin' up ovah dere!
Snarly sarcasm and droll derision aside...
(Well... Maybe not...)
Where are all those people who were talking smug and
self-satisfied shit during the last mayoral election about
Rahm al-Ghoul being the smartest m/fer in any room he
chooses to stand? (B.A. Performing Arts/Dance -
Sarah Lawrence College. "Ivy League" school without peer.)
Rahm is also quite the financial guru (Master's in Prevarication/
Agitation-Propaganda err... Communication - Northwestern University.)
Therefore...
"Rahm has a plan and he's gonna take action!
That other guy just wants to stick his nose
in the municipal books and formulate his plan
as he goes along."
Guess which one looks like the more sensible
sensible strategy as Chicago does a naked-assed
skid down the splintery spiral bannister of fiscal
Fuckery orchestrated by that feverish little hobgoblin
trying to hit the ultimate municipal finance lick for his
friends in banking, finance and investments?
It's a veritable parade of muthafuckahs on floats festooned
with hundred dollar bills...
Specifically targeting and rolling through the neighborhoods of survivors of the ongoing
Great Middle-Class Contraction of the last quarter century.
"Rahm's Plan" has so far yielded the sum total of dick-all
(for the people paying the freight) as the m/fers on the floats
laugh and fist their junk at you people still playing by the rules
and your children.
Y'all ain't mean and mad enough yet...
Rahm consistantly finds more money for his pet projects but nothing for police pensions or tag line "for the children" projects!
Maybe they do have a plan B - as in Bankruptcy.
It has been well reported that Illinois municipalities can not file for bankruptcy without legislative authorization from Springfield...which currently does not exist.
However, I read (I believe here) that CPS is not subject to such a requirement, and thus a traditional corporate bankruptcy would be available as an option to them.
I only know enough about bankruptcy to be dangerous.
Anyone else care to weigh in?
Call the next case. Not a cop.
Is the sky falling yet? Typical governmental response instead of a responsible plan say doomsday is around the corner.
For some odd reason every time I read of the failed Chicago Publik-Skuul System this Classic Rock song runs through my mind: ..........
>>>
Pink Flyod --- Another Brick In The Wall (part 2) (Official Video) <<<
We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey teacher leave them kids alone
All in all it's just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall
Thanks to decades of democrat control, and subsequently the far left-wing Chicago Teachers Union (They think Stalin was too moderate), NO EDUCATION, is what they get.
The fact is the kids may as well be 'Bricks In The Wall.' The teachers can't get any worse and the kids can't get any dumber.
Why isn't the lapdog media screaming about Rahm having no plan??
They went along with Rahm and tried crucifying Chuy for allegedly having no plan.
I would've gladly taken my chances with Chuy's plan.
I went to a pubic school. I learned good.
Chicago is broke, but it can now afford to fund costly sex change operations for city employees.
Clayfool did a bang up Job decimating the Park District. It's just the same carousel of incompetent fools running things right into the ground. No worries they'll make Tommy The Thumb Bryne CPS chief he has the Midas Touch
Anonymous said...
Speaking as a teacher, I'd be more open to a higher contribution if I had any trust in the city to manage the funds. Claypool did have the Park District budget balanced, iirc, but politicians here are parasites, and Emmanuel was out to bust the union from day 1. School board should be elected and have their salaries and perks drastically reduced.
8/05/2015 08:10:00 AM
An elected school board is just what the teacher's union wants. I can just imagine the city wide campaign and how it would shape up. The teacher's union would not only control their end of the bargaining table but the other side as well. In other words, they would collectively bargain with themselves. The Chicago Public Schools are a mess and they turn out a product, if you can call it that, that is not prepared for higher education or for a job. When a high school graduate cannot subtract 7 from 100 with ease, that is bad. I taught at the community college level and at Chicago State and I was shocked at the level of basic knowledge of the cities high school graduates. I hear teachers, over and over again, blame the kids and their parents for what is going on and the poor performance on standard tests.I have never heard Karen Lewis say this for she claims the reason for poor performance is too many white teachers !!Is Karen Lewis going to say that the system has too many black and Hispanic kids ? I don't think so. Dr. Bell, a noted Black psychiatrist in Chicago blames fetal alcohol syndrome for poor black performance and violent crime. The union is the greatest roadblock to the kids education. End their right to strike and tenure.
ANON. said...
I only know enough about bankruptcy to be dangerous.
Anyone else care to weigh in?
Call the next case. Not a cop.
8/05/2015 10:24:00 AM
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Been to bankruptcy court several times as both an expert witness and a creditor owed money.
You DON'T want to go there. Those who claim their pension is protected by the state Constitution are SO wrong they are clueless. Go to Bankruptcy Court and settle for a dime on the dollar. As for CPD, with the schlubs you call the FOP, you'll be lucky to get a NICKEL on the dollar because FOP will be looking to take care of themselves first - and sell you out in order to get their cush merit jobs after the "deal".
That is your option.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
No big loss. By all accounts most Chicago schools don't do a very good job anyway.
8/05/2015 07:18:00 AM
Painting all schools with that brush is like painting all cops with the "all cops beat bartenders (or insert whatever other actions the bad apples in blue do)" brush. There *are* good CPS schools, where the teachers and administration and parents work together to educate the students. You just don't know about them because they're getting the job done, and that's not newsworthy.
(OT) just watched channel 9 wgn news strangely over 2 minute story about woman Caucasian robbed at gun point with a pistol news said 2 pre teen boys but no other description wonder if the darn Amish are at it again! This black criminal nonsense no description really out of hand! Great reporting channel "chicagos very own" clueless newscast!
Why not charge all the illegals who had their anchor babies who are filling up all the public schools. The kicker is most parents aren't even contributing to the tax system that support their kids in school. With those cash paying jobs, lots of the money made gets sent back to Mexico. Kids are born in America and are now eligible for all sorts of government freebies, Link, WIC, SS disability for asthma or ADD, the list goes on. You, the American working taxpayer gets fucked....
http://windycityteachers.blogspot.com/2015/07/cps-engineers-beware.html
Thanks to decades of democrat control, and subsequently the far left-wing Chicago Teachers Union (They think Stalin was too moderate), NO EDUCATION, is what they get.
The fact is the kids may as well be 'Bricks In The Wall.' The teachers can't get any worse and the kids can't get any dumber.
8/05/2015 11:04:00 AM
All they need to know is "How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?"
Unfortunately, that is what it's going to come down to and someone making $100,000-$130,000 as a retired teacher is going to say, "Fuck it, I am not taking any less." so they will fuck it up for everyone else.
You Sir are a low grade moron if you think thats even remotely correct and you must have gone to one of those schools to believe Rahm and Mike's bullshit were broke, GFYS
==== 8/05/2015 10:54:00 PM "All they need to know is "How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?" ====
LOL. Good one.
Perhaps if you only allowed politicians to collect only "one" pension instead of one per office held, the funds would be there....
(OT) just watched channel 9 wgn news strangely over 2 minute story about woman Caucasian robbed at gun point with a pistol news said 2 pre teen boys but no other description wonder if the darn Amish are at it again! This black criminal nonsense no description really out of hand! Great reporting channel "chicagos very own" clueless newscast!
8/05/2015 09:13:00 PM
They don't want to "offend" any groups or show any signs of "prejudice "
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