Fetal? (UPDATE)
Really?
- fetal - adjective - denoting a posture characteristic of a fetus, with the back curved forward and the limbs folded in front of the body.
- Chicago’s police union is taking exception to Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s description of Chicago cops as being “fetal” and not proactively policing because they’re afraid of getting in trouble when citizens post YouTube videos of their interactions with the public.
Emanuel’s comments came as he urged support for police during a private meeting Wednesday with big-city police chiefs, the U.S. attorney general, the head of the FBI and other law-enforcement and elected officials, according to a Washington Post reporter who was there.
“We have allowed our police department to get fetal and it is having a direct consequence,” Emanuel told U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch. “They have pulled back from the ability to interdict . . . they don’t want to be a news story themselves, they don’t want their career ended early, and it’s having an impact.”
Well, gee, let's see:
- Ferguson - cop does nothing wrong killing an assailant - riots, blame, loses his job and can never work in the field again;
- Cleveland - cops does nothing wrong as found by two experts - riots, possible indictment, may never work int he field again;
- Baltimore - six cops indicted over a career criminal who broke his own neck by standing up in a moving van after fighting his arrest - riots permitted by politicians who gave criminals "room to destroy" and told the police to stand down - then blamed the police;
- New York - loosie seller weighs in at 400 pounds, decides to resist arrest by 3 NYPD, has a heart attack after a submission hold (not a choke hold as defined by law) - marches, near riots, police blamed again for the actions of a career criminal;
And those are just the ones we recall off the top of our heads. Let's not forget the copper taking a week suspension for expressing the completely truthful fact that assailant Brown got exactly what he deserved in Ferguson.
De-policing is a completely rational and logical reaction to what is going on across the country. Sorry.
UPDATE: Oh yeah, and the multiple-day suspensions currently in the works for coppers merely reading - READING! - a case report involving the mayor's son that relates a fairy tale of an 11:00 PM college counselor phone call rather than the truth of what happened. And we're supposed to be the "fetal" ones.
De-policing is a completely rational and logical reaction to what is going on across the country. Sorry.
UPDATE: Oh yeah, and the multiple-day suspensions currently in the works for coppers merely reading - READING! - a case report involving the mayor's son that relates a fairy tale of an 11:00 PM college counselor phone call rather than the truth of what happened. And we're supposed to be the "fetal" ones.
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Woman Shoots Gun on Busy Stretch of Halsted in Lincoln Park
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151011/lincoln-park/woman-shoots-gun-on-busy-stretch-of-halsted-lincoln-park---video
Liberal politicians want to have their cake and eat it too. Proactive police and whipping boys in the same uniform.
If he thinks im a fetal officer now, wait till i have a body camera and have to give aclu receipts, comatose might be a better description.
This coming from the guy who uses G-A-R-R-Y as a mouth piece to do his bidding. This coming from the guy who we've seen as a young man in a park protesting the police. This coming from the guy who had a shit fit and is suspending 200+ police officers for reading the case report of his son's altercation.
Sorry buddy you can't persecute us and then expect us to jeopardize our families to protect your job prospect. Just like your two previous employers you better start planning for life outside the lime light.
"...And those are just the ones we recall off the top of our heads. Let's not forget the copper taking a week suspension for expressing the completely truthful fact that assailant Brown got exactly what he deserved in Ferguson.
De-policing is a completely rational and logical reaction to what is going on across the country. Sorry...."
Throw in the possibility of handing out receipts for a street stop, body cameras, and a department that clearly does not have your back too. SCC, you nailed it.
What does Rahm care?
He drove the "fetalization"
of the Police via his local
media minions keeping the
anti-Police agit-prop hotted up
in order to separate the Police
from the public good will.
A useful crisis not going to waste?
And now they wanna bitch that we're too soft. Damned if ya do, Damned if ya dont. That's being a copper these days for ya. I don't give a shit, any citizen with an ounce of common sense knows why things are the way they are now. Had a guy out today to fix a leaky crack in my basement wall referred to me by an old partner. I was told he was the cpd's "go to guy" for brick and concrete repairs. Good work and notarized lifetime warranty. Cpd discount (extremely reasonable price) and went up and sealed up the top of the chimney free. I told him thanks a lot and the kid shook my hand and said 'no pal, thank you for all you've done for 27 years. Let them March and complain while the politician's point their fingers at ya. The taxpayers with brains know the truth'. It made me wonder just how many other citizens in this city actually see through the bullshit they get fed. I hope more than it seems. On another note, we should start a page or something for businesses or contractors that are "friends of ours". The guys name was Mike (owner) second city restoration (708) 745-8359. Estimate was free
We are giving the people what they want until they dont want it anymore. Plain and simple. Just remember that when the police stop proactively policing the citizens in the high crime areas are going to suffer the brunt of the beating. It wont be citizens in nice neighborhoods that suffer. Be careful what you wish for geniuses.
This is exactly what happens when the left is listened to regarding enforcing the laws. Now granted, we might screw up on occasion, but the charge is led by the president and his justice department and this is what you get. Rahm, you can get on your knees and beg, it ain't happening, it's a new day and the likes of you caused it, so deal with it, dumb-ass.
The charge is on to let criminals out of prison because of course, it's all brown and black men and it must be racist. I can't wait for the liberals to announce that they don't want felons unable to vote. They're usually democrat and that's quite a few voters they want, not to mention the illegals that flood our country and damn near 80% of the legal immigrants vote democrat. Can you imagine what the percentage would be of illegals that might be allowed to one day? I bet that number would approach 95% democrat. The liberals are attempting to change our society and don't care if they kill our country in the process.
Question for SCC or group discussion: should the copper who was suspended for making the remark have fought his suspension based on the fact that the statement is taken out of context? The bad guy got what he deserved as the law permits. A whole big hassle to fight, but right is right. Is it not?
Yo tiny dancer, this is the freaking police department that the stupid liberal commie idiots wanted, now you got it. You can shift the blame to the police working the streets, but you got what you asked for you dumb ass.
Here is your RD number, have a nice day.
Can't sue judges or prosecutors, but you can sue the police. How do you think cases get to the judges and prosecutors?
Not an LEO. And the way things are today, I do not want any of mine to be one.
Damned if you do! Damned if you don't!
Your organization is a political punching bag and too big a municipal expense. Spending all that money on police gets in the way of spending that money bribing politician's constituents and paying off campaign contributors. How can politicians get elected if they don't bribe their constituents?
The Chitcago community organizers are just waiting for their moment in the sun. Something will happen, some "poor, innocent" properly colored thug will get shot "executed by a racist cop," and things will get sporty.
Facts won't matter, only the Narrative, just like Ferguson, Baltimore, and Cleveland.
If that happens, those 3000 missing Chicago Cops will be sorely missed.
Now getting the police departments liberals have always wanted and suddenly it ain't working out like they thought it would. Reap what you sow.
Quit bitching Rahm. It's what your former boss wants.
If your old boss gave a fuck about Law and Order instead of "keep up the dialogue", he would have visited the Officer, not the Offender in the crime.
How many Chicago Cops were thrown under the bus?
Cozi? Who was the cop in 018 that got fired for following the DUI offender that hit his car? The Sgt in 006 that was charged criminaly for an administrative discrepancy? How many other officers & detectives were hit with punitive dammages?
You want us to go out and "kick ass, take names" after watching our fellow officers being thrown to the wolves? Go find some other sucker.
I myself, prefer Police officers to take the fire department approach to society... IE.. don't do anything unless legitimately called to the scene..
Also, you are looking at this police business getting worse in the near future... cause today, you got some of the best cops, who know police business... saying fuck this job, I got 29 (or 20) and a day, I am out. and you will have dick head jam up johnny recruit, saying, I will work this job for free, where is my badge and gun, foot patrol? I am there... or that scumbag cop whos got juice and 3 years on the job saying where is my SGT stripes.
Lets face it, the smart guys see what this job is about and are getting out... the guys who you don't want on this job are coming on. Very sad prospects if you ask me.
Great Word Choice!!!
Rahm says:
The Police Department is Fetal
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People hear:
The police are just a bunch of Crybabies!
And when the FOP responds: You just proved Rahm is correct, you are whiny little children. Wahh! Waahh!
“We have allowed our police department to get fetal and it is having a direct consequence,” Emanuel told U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch. “They have pulled back from the ability to interdict . . . they don’t want to be a news story themselves, they don’t want their career ended early, and it’s having an impact.”
You bunch haven't "allowed" the situation, you've FORCED it.
If police take note of an on-view public activity, it's "spying." If they take any action, it's "racism" and "overmilitarization" and "brutality."
You were expecting police work, maybe?
No soup for you!
Fund my pension.
"Chicago’s police union is taking exception to Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s description of Chicago cops as being “fetal” and not proactively policing because they’re afraid of getting in trouble when citizens post YouTube videos of their interactions with the public."
What bulls__t, ass-backwards writing. Darren Wilson didn't have his life destroyed by a YouTube video. He was cast out for defending himself against some huge monster stuck halfway in the squad car window, wrestling him for his service weapon. YouTube didn't charge six Baltimore coppers with "depraved-heart murder." Grandstanding, four-months-on-the-job fashion model, stage musician, and prosecutor Marilyn Mosby did that.
Etc.
Blue lives matter!!!
Fetal...
Well after all this time, isn't that what Daley, Rahm, Weis, Garry, ACLU, et al wanted. And they got it, just keep telling them crime is down. So people die, blame the police, blame bad guns. But never blame bad Democommunists and their historic Hope and Change policies.
Now I hear that Jesse Jackson Senior is coming to town to kick us while we are down and want more tax money for social programs and never mind the pensions for those greedy cops.
You clowns wanted hands off police and you're getting it so wallow in the pain.
Not only will I never proactively police again, but anyone who does is a complete idiot. The media and politicians will get what they deserve. Empower the criminals? Good luck to you. I will not lift a finger. I'm all about self preservation. Fetal position??? Ha. It's called a defensive position Mr. Sawed off Mayor. Don't worry. I'll show up after the fact, and take the paper. But that's about all.
This is the department they wanted!! Now they own it!!
Memphis officer killed on way to work in uniform RIP brother rahms you and your elected friends have caused this support thugs we are done protect each other and police families!
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/11/us/tennessee-officer-killed/index.html
Hey Rahm. You and the other liberals got the police department you wanted. And now you want to blame the police. Go to hell prick.
Its called SELF PRESERVATION and its instinctual!
Well you can thank Garry for making a deal with the ACLU and the hatred of the police by the big brass in CPD, most of them from NY. This is your bed 9.5 now sleep in it asshole.
My sentiments expressed exactly! Plus, this asshole Rahm has done nothing but steal our pension and talk shit about police but could the little weasel could never do our job!
Ya'll muthafuckas be layin down!
No alligator arms now!
Bunch of fuckin' pussies.
If ya'll were out givin' wood shampoos, the kids would in school learnin an shit.
I like getting paid in excess of 80,000 for being fetal. Thank John Q. Public.
Don't forget the pension mess too. The daily threat of possibly not having a pension or social security upon retirement and being blamed for the mess that politicians caused.
I say leave all the policing to the commanders new drinking and travel companions. Hell maybe they can all drink from the Stanley Cup.
transparency at city hall former President BBB head of CPS let the details come out as in the Koschman case!
Police like you have no friends
99% right is 100% wrong
ect, ect,
These attitudes developed as a logical reaction to the
bashing police have received from all corners of the very
society we have sworn to protect. We have not given up
on our commitment to provide a service for the community,
but rather "reprioritized" and "re-created" our operational
methodologies as a direct response to the communities desire
for a less stringent, less agressive, less "law enforcement-centric" product.
The fact that the Beta testing of this new product is revealing
serious flaws in the design is evidenced in the above referenced
meeting with the AG. Policing 2.0 is a failure. As long as the customer
demands a product that is intentionally and deliberately designed
to provide an easy ability to profit from exploiting flaws in
this new version they will continue to experience the policing
they asked for.
We have given citizens, the community, the police departments and
police officers they said they wanted.
At the micro or street level of law enforcement it is up to the individual
police officer to decide how to proceed on a daily basis.
Speaking only for myself let me note here that "customer satisfaction is
not guaranteed" and any complaints should be addressed to Go Fuck Yourself.
Propassive policing is the order of the day and will not/ can not be modified.
How about adding to that hiring practice. Hiring people who just want a job and really don't want to do Police work. I can't tell you how many people I've worked with who wanted to do nothing even before cameras....
The media has a place in this cop hating rhetoric. The next time a reporter wants an interview at a scene or calls for information he should be told to call Gary or Rahm.
the liberals and lefties are reaping what they sowed,,,,,,,you can only push people so far
Maybe if first responder unions contributed a whole lot more money to the DNC, libs would look more favorably on them.
The police are like Toyota! You asked for it you got it!
Pro-active, reactive, "de-policing"...does it really matter?
Yes, if certain criteria are met. I.e. a nice suburb where one, ONE, mope is selling out of his house and pissing off neighbors. Dealing with him has an immediate and measurable affect. That's something the police can get their hands around.
Swaths of blighted geography where everyone is basically fucked up? Think about how basic we're talking about. Maternal stress, substance abuse and "nutrition" has bearing on the brain of the fetus. The fucking fetus.
Then when it's born, the direct stress, neglect, abuse, and "nutrition" from the age of birth til....forever.
And that's pretty much everyone in certain areas. Thousands and thousands.
The mush-mouth "know wha'm sayin?" bullshit isn't an act. It's not an affectation. That's a swiss-cheese brain, courtesy of Democratic social engineering.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz !!!!!!
Signed 012 district 1st Watch
If Rahm is so tough I would like to see him forgo his 25+ officers guarding him 24/7.
His opinion? Opinions are like assholes everyone has one. RAHM hires thieves so if any one thinks he is an expert in anything remember this:
RAHMS salary: 320,000 for a 14-month stint at Freddie Mac that required little effort.
If you really think about this from this old headline:
MR. EMANUEL RETURNS FROM WASHINGTON
DURATIONAL RESIDENCE REQUIREMENTS
AND ELECTION LITIGATION.
he was not even legally able to run for mayor but the Chicago Way came into affect.
yet again?
Rahm Emanuel's brother Ari gets sweet deal regarding Lollapalooza tax exemption.
The feds, anita alvarez, lisa madigan??? NOT a PEEP. So if i am fetal what is every other unit of government that pretends to do policing?
How about 100 or so of Englewood's finest plant themselves in front of Rahm's house for a few hours (with weapons and cameras). See what Rahm and his bodyguards do.
Scc you confuse me. Ok for police not to do their job and get paid good money?
Yep. Can't unring the bell! Sorry. I'm done..check please!!! Be careful what you ask for, ghetto, you may (and have) get it! #PoliceAreNotTheProblem!
The fetal position is better than the bent over position.
I think it should be further clarified that the "submission" hold in NY wasn't even that! If you watch that video in real speed his arm only briefly goes around the neck area of the colossal resister. That movement wasn't enough to submit, choke, or otherwise kill that rhino.
It's called... "Looking out for #1"
aka 'Self-Preservation'
Rahm, translated: "You cops quit reacting logically to cheeseweasel politicians like me throwing you to the wolves every chance we get! Get out there and sacrifice yourselves for Team Me!"
I'm surprised Swan Lake knows what the term "fetal" means...
OT- the Clark/Division Red Line stop reopened 7-10 days ago and the brand new escalator hasn't worked since - fuck you CTA! Where's the $?
--No Cop Here
Crime will touch everyone. Only at that time will things change. The civil war is upon us. Just listen to the last 10 minutes of Luis Farrikans speech at the US capital on Saturday. Our country is infected with scum.
Oh thanks Laughfffy for out pension funding at 27%. A vote for him is the same as someone who voted for Obama the second time.
If I'm not mistaken, didn't Rahm himself hint that the Chicago copper ,who stated on film that Mike Brown got what he deserved was going to be fired ? So, Rahm ,GFY in regards to de policing in big cities. You and your fellow liberals are the ones to blame in this matter. Not to mention , Rahm you refuse to hire any new blood for this thankless and meaningless job.
"not proactively policing because they’re afraid of getting in trouble when citizens post YouTube videos of their interactions with the public."
Yeah, sure. Words from "Macho-Man" TINY DANCER....
Oh man..yeah selling those loosies is serious Broken Windows shit that should not be tolerated. After all the perp is cheating the parasitic politburo out of a few cents tax!! OMG!!
It was always said 10-20% are the working police, making arrests, investigating crimes, and involved in the prosecution process. The other 90-80% just do enough not to get fired and pick-up their checks on the 1st and 16th. Adjusting the numbers presently, you would have to say 1-3% and 99-97% is probably a lot closer to the truth.
De-policing is the ONLY sensible course of action. Anyone who thinks they need to go out there and be the so called real police is a complete moron. You can only police the people as much as they want to be policed. The socialist masses have spoken and they don't want our work in their lives. This started to appear in the nineties and now it's here full blown. Work like you're on camera or you will suffer.
Wait til 1 January 2016.
The new Contact Card system will bring things to a screeching halt.
All the cops taking days off for looking at a police report.
Is 9.5 real?
This is what he has ordered Mc Jersey and the command staff to do..
After each of these incidents outside of Illinois you could see the way CPD staff, members and fellow
officersresponded to incidents......
They do not want a news story so stop proactive police work.
And the current officers that are nieve that this will not touch them.
Well just ask where the officers are that were involved in Furgeson and Cleveland
Look at Park Ridge? Just fired officer for not calling in pursuit.
That's right, they got the department the black politicians, reverends, suburban liberals and the criminals themselves wanted. 90% of all the shootings in Chicago occurred in the black neighborhood ( I didn't see any casting agents for Ciracq in Garfield Ridge). 85% of the people that live in the black areas are good people being held hostage by 15% of the ghetto rats that give blacks a very bad reputation.
How many witnesses are there for the 400 + shootings/ homicides this year in Chicago?
How many witness are there when 1 police officer looses his cool and violates a rule?
But then they want to do post shooting missions and give you a humper for your activity. Which sounds like a quota to me. Good thing I heard that a few people always record roll call.
This is nothing new. Politicians always talk out of both sides of their mouths when it comes down to it. They want enforcement to show that they are "tough" on crime, but retreat when the necessary job is performed and they have to field complaints. The real solution is direct, competent supervision on the street which supports/ legitimizes/ documents action by the street cop.
Lets not forget letting the ACLU and other left wing organizations write the ground rules for Terry Stops. Street stops will become almost non-existent . Criminals will be emboldened to carry concealed weapons. It is happening in NY and will not happen in Chicago. The liberals and white people with guilt are getting exactly what they wanted in a police culture and they do not like the results. So what do they do? Blame the police again. I have heard and read comments such as " we will make them work or fire them". Lets see how that strategy works for them. I feel sorry for the good citizens in minority neighborhoods who have to hide behind their doors. Yes, this will do a lot for integration and race relations in this country. The liberal media tries its best to hide the true face of crime in this country from the population. This will work until there is spillover into decent areas.
The "sorry" at the end should be comming from the politians and should be directed at the law abiding society.
Fuck you tiny dancer
POTUS is completely anti-police. He is to the far left of a very left wing Democratic party.
60 Minutes interview with him is comical. His foreign policy equates ignoring the bullies of the world because he is better than that. Meanwhile the danger for western civilization continues to grow. And of course the ego of the century believes he would win a third term. I can't even imagine a world with him as president for an additional term.
As for Rahm, I wonder if he's even pick a political party to be part of if he didn't have to.
I don't think Rahm is pro-police or anti-police, I think Rahm is pro-Rahm.
In order to be pro-Rahm he needs everything to go his way. Crime down, employment and revenue up, scandals down, unions in tow, money coming in to the political coffers for election to bigger and better things. He is breaking from the Democratic line by his recent comments. Standing with his guy against the black caucus, stating that the communities need to do their part, telling Eric Holder II (Loretta Lynch) that CPD is in the fetal position. He isn't very popular in this city, he doesn't know how to read the people in the neighborhoods.
I'm not pro-Rahm and I'm not so sure that I like to be referred to as being in the fetal position but I'm glad he spoke up. I don't think it'll have much effect. The beatings from the liberal left and their media sidekicks will continue. I don't think we've hit rock bottom yet, and when we do I don't see much if anything improving after that. Society is a frog swimming across the river with a scorpion on it's back.
All the Cases get tossed any way,I don't give a Shit.
Rahm is a rotten liar and has a real hard time coming off as sincere.
Very poor choice of words using the word fetal.... but I'm sure Rahm intentionally used that word.
Then Rahm has the balls to say the police need the public and politicians backing. Really Rahm?
Didn't Rahm recently call for the firing of the officer baited on you tube into saying Mike Brown got what he deserved? You mean backing like that Rahm??
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on..... now fund our pensions.
The mayor has taken a 'fecal position' when it comes to his appreciation (pension & salary) for the police.
His agenda follows that of the weak POTUS.
There is no need to be a pro-active police dept when the liberals, the progressive politicians and ultra liberal judiciary continue to allow rampant crime to run rampant. The moment your big arrest is completed, the litigation commences and likely, your dedication to duty fades to a long drawn apprehension of punitive reprisal.
So Rahm can assume his bovine fecal posture...and I'll continue to simply step aside.
GMac can't clean up the mess with his commentary, he should just shut up.
De-policing is not rational. The same coppers who rant and rave about welfare cheats, disability cheats, etc. have no trouble going through a tour and coming in with zeros across the board. How the fuck do you go through an entire tour and you don't even bring in any activity?
On another note I am sick of older veteran officers scaring the shit out of the newbies on this job. They keep telling them "don't do shit", "just answer your calls for service" and "write reports".
No you won't get into trouble if you do your job properly!
Don't forget Tamir - 12 yr old who looked older, running around in a playground with a BB gun that had all the colored tips/indicators removed, who got shot and killed (as he should have).
Trayvon - the thug thief who was killed when he was smashing the head of the neighborhood watch guy into the sidewalk...
Libtards got what they wanted.... now they don't? huh?
They sided with criminals - what'd they figure was going to happen? That the criminals would calm down and stop being criminals? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA morons.
Cops are doing what is the natural reaction to this idiocy - taking reports, standing down. Time to get the libtards out of office, and return to Old Skool Policing - "they bring a knife, you bring a gun", wood shampoos, and running assholes out of neighborhoods they don't belong in because you know they're up to no good.
And for good measure - stop feeding the criminals!
This is the world you helped create Rahm. Enjoy it.
I give Rahm credit for seeing it and saying it.
OT where are the unions bashing the city for providing the Illegals with education , housing , food , health care for free and raising the health insurance on retirees of Chicago . What did it cost citizens of Chicago to build all the brand new schools ?
The only thing fetal is your brain. Useless dickhead mayor !!!
Only, Put your Life on the line for those who care about you.
Hey Rahm, welcome to the NEW CPD created by you and the DNC liberal elite. You have shown you didn't let a crisis go to waste. You win, you win. Bravo!!! Now we all have to reap what you have sown........from " we serve and protect" to " survive and escape". The new CPD policy that WE take is this, don't get out of the car unless absolutely necessary. Enjoy Rahm, enjoy.....
Like I said, it's hands off with these rats. Now give me my personal.
When I first started, the was the Old Guy in the back of the briefing room who loved to say "Do nothing, do nothing wrong." Us young bucks puffed out our chests, went about our business being super cops, and he retired. Twenty years on the job and now I have perfect clarity and insight to what he meant. I do not envy the young people coming into the field.
Protect the good citizens in your home districts. Answer calls in the other districts. That's it.
Yes, Mr. Mayor, you hit the nail right on the head. We are taking it from all sides, even from you - trying to avoid your pension debt to us. And as far as the pendulum swinging back to proactive police work, this won't happen until their is full anarchy by the natives. Then policing will happen only out of necessity to protect our family and property. Sad but true.
I know you don't like Emanuel, but I hope you can realize that he was defending all of you to the Attorney General and to the public. And what he said is exactly right.
Wait until the new contact card agreement takes effect. McCarthy is going to lose it and wind up quitting because he will be labeled a failure. I for one told the guys that work for me that they should only stop people involved in a crime that they know took place, not one that they suspect will take place. To much liability otherwise. Proactive Police work is dead and it is a shame that it has come to this. This is what the ACLU and the liberals wanted, well now you got it. Enjoy the spike in crime that is continually climbing.
Signed,
Fed up Sgt.
I remain in the fetal position until I retire in two more years...and I am also sucking my thumb. Though I blame my parents as well as the Department for this.
I see nothing out there, Nothing! 20 and Out. 20 is the new 29 and a day.
For once rahm isn't wrong. I've been in the fetal position for about 10 years. I've been retaliated by bosses and white shirts for it all the time. I just tell them I'm not doing anything and there isn't a thing they can do
Garry's answer is belittle lieutenants and sergeants at Compstat. libs like Rahm are getting the CPD they created. they just weren't smart enough to envision the result. you reap what you sow.
Choke hold is Deadly Force . Remember that when an unarmed gentle giant attempts to,put you in a choke hold , you are in fear of death or receiving great bodily harm . Use force necessary to overcome the threat , go home safe to your Family .
Person shot in 005th district about an hour ago.
That means, another fixed post in addition to the 5 that we already have.
Which means that the box gets larger.
Which means that the district still in a backlog
Which means that the tact team can't leave the box
Which means that no time due
Which means that the commander will eat more wings
Which means that piglet will get more nervous
Which means that the watch is still lazy
Which means that 45 min to get offender n lock up
Which means that my weekend is coming up
Which means that the Aldercreatures are right
Which means that McFarty is right
Which means that the State is poor
Which means that crime is everywhere
Which means that I don't give a Damn
Which means that the 1st & the 15th will still come
Awww, 9.5 is upset with us and blaming us on the uptick in crime.
Oh well to freaking bad. You asked for it you got it buddy!
Sure, we are deterred from working, possibly causing the uptick in certain types of crimes. I've been sued for an asinine allegation in the past, and guess what? Yep, the city paid to shut 'em up... So, he's partially correct: I don't want to get sued again!
Fetal? Hmm! How many coppers have been civilly sued and lost punitively? How many have taken suspensions and lost jobs? How many have lost freedom,pensions, homes,families? Rahms you and Obama have directly caused this! Why do you think Trump is so high in the polls and will take Presidential office in 2017January? Hopefully Trump untied the hands of FBI and let's hundreds of extra agencies look into this city/state/county #undothecorruption #lockthemallup!
The proactive police fetus was aborted a long time ago.
Rahm knows about the fetal position firsthand it's the position he assumes whenever it's time for him to make the required contributions to our pension fund.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/1022304/emanuel-stands-behind-claim-youtube-effect-policing
Rahm's follow up
Our city, county and sate politicians are FECAL. There all full of shit. There are synonymous with assholes-they all stink.
Since Obama and Emanuel celebrate aborting fetuses, comparing the police to fetuses is perfectly appropriate. Keep supporting more Democratic misrule in Chicago! Corrupt Republicans were to blame for Prohibition ninety years ago, so the Democrats must rule over us all forever!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And now they wanna bitch that we're too soft. Damned if ya do, Damned if ya dont. That's being a copper these days for ya. I don't give a shit, any citizen with an ounce of common sense knows why things are the way they are now. Had a guy out today to fix a leaky crack in my basement wall referred to me by an old partner. I was told he was the cpd's "go to guy" for brick and concrete repairs. Good work and notarized lifetime warranty. Cpd discount (extremely reasonable price) and went up and sealed up the top of the chimney free. I told him thanks a lot and the kid shook my hand and said 'no pal, thank you for all you've done for 27 years. Let them March and complain while the politician's point their fingers at ya. The taxpayers with brains know the truth'. It made me wonder just how many other citizens in this city actually see through the bullshit they get fed. I hope more than it seems. On another note, we should start a page or something for businesses or contractors that are "friends of ours". The guys name was Mike (owner) second city restoration (708) 745-8359. Estimate was free
10/12/2015 01:43:00 AM
There's a facebook page for that and you have to be verified cpd to read and post there. Much safer for everyone to promote business contacts that way than to do it here.
You can't protect others if you don't first protect yourself. Elementary, my dear Rahm.
Scc you confuse me. Ok for police not to do their job and get paid good money?
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?
Cops haven't stopped with writing reports or documenting crimes. Some cops even write ticket for parking violations and the occasional mover at a traffic crash scene. That's part of the job, right?
But driving by a corner were four or five of the chronically unemployed are hanging out and up to who knows what, well, cops wouldn't want to be accused of violating their right to congregate, would they? Besides if cops just park on the corner for 2 minutes, they wander off on their own and no one got hassled, which is what the liberals want.
If those four or five end up selling some dope or mugging some pedestrian or being the target of someone else's gunfire, that's hardly "not doing the job" seeing as how the cops are off parking on another problem corner, one of fifty in the district and they can only be one place at one time. Cops did their job back at the first corner.
And the salary thing, well, that was negotiated with the city and their lawyers and eventually, granted by an arbitrator, so it's what government figures we deserve.
How about you come join the Department and show us how you'd do it? Or is the salary too low for you?
He tries to use words that describe persons he's taller than
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I know you don't like Emanuel, but I hope you can realize that he was defending all of you to the Attorney General and to the public. And what he said is exactly right.
10/12/2015 11:17:00 AM
With friends like him, who needs enemies?
Rahm refuses to release to Tribune e-mails of his scum bag city hall operatives discussing SUPES academy, and yet the Dept sent an e-mail blast out on Friday that Dept is releasing 4 years worth of complaints against CPD officers to Tribune, our manling Mayor is truly a treacherous weasel.
Rahm is a POS - I was a hard charger and very proactive -- not anymore. I am going to ride out the last few years, retire and leave this shit hole of a city. If he wants proactive policing tell him to do it himself. He and his democrat buddies have distorted a once great city and police department.
Someone posted "Rahm is for Rahm." Damn that sums it all up doesn't it?
Both he and his racist asshole friend in the white house can go fuck themselves sideways.
For once rahm isn't wrong. I've been in the fetal position for about 10 years. I've been retaliated by bosses and white shirts for it all the time. I just tell them I'm not doing anything and there isn't a thing they can do
10/12/2015 11:39:00 AM
I am pretty sure a guy like you doesn't "tell" anybody anything. A guy like you just doesn't do a thing because you are lazy, entitled little boy and you do it quietly so no one notices you. You are just scared, afraid to do the job you are paid to do. Maybe that's why you've "been retaliated by bosses and white shirts". That literary masterpiece made me laugh out loud.
De-policing is not rational. The same coppers who rant and rave about welfare cheats, disability cheats, etc. have no trouble going through a tour and coming in with zeros across the board. How the fuck do you go through an entire tour and you don't even bring in any activity?
On another note I am sick of older veteran officers scaring the shit out of the newbies on this job. They keep telling them "don't do shit", "just answer your calls for service" and "write reports".
No you won't get into trouble if you do your job properly!
Darren Wilson did his job properly. Where is he at today? How about the guy who pulled over, and then arrested the black woman in Texas, who then killed herself at the county jail? He's being sued, and all he did was his job (which had nothing to do with the jail where she was being held).
You've, obviously, never been sued, had to list your assets, sent to callback, or taken time for doing your job (properly). Hell, even the CR# for the general nonsense of some shithead lying about what happened is enough to cause you serious stress (and you know you were 100% in the right). Have you ever had to go to IPRA (or OPS) or IAD with a Union lawyer? It's not laziness or being a dog, it's about self-preservation. It's not about scaring the "newbies" (don't use the word "newbie", you sound like a child). It's about letting them know that if you want to stay on this job and collect a steady paycheck, you can't go out there in this political climate and act like some super-cop. The Dept. and the City will not back you. The media will bury you. The politicians will use you as an example. Wake up. Look at the big picture. Otherwise, have fun and hope a lot of people show up for your benifit.
Do nothing
do nothing wrong..
wise words.
Again a little advice to hair gels . Respond to all in progress with lights on and sirens , drive careful , you must arrive safe to help the victim and other officers . Request medical attention for victim , protect crime scene , interview victim , get all the facts , send a flash message with description of offender . Hopefully news media will be listening and get race of offenders ? Write a report , make all notification , then tour the area for offender . Go home safe to your loved ones . No on view street stops .
Hey you know the traffic survey on the back of every IVC? Who sponsored that? Oh yeah..
BHO
Rahm should be happy the police are laying down. No more ghetto lottery payouts!
Anonymous said...
And now they wanna bitch that we're too soft. Damned if ya do, Damned if ya dont. That's being a copper these days for ya. I don't give a shit, any citizen with an ounce of common sense knows why things are the way they are now. Had a guy out today to fix a leaky crack in my basement wall referred to me by an old partner. I was told he was the cpd's "go to guy" for brick and concrete repairs. Good work and notarized lifetime warranty. Cpd discount (extremely reasonable price) and went up and sealed up the top of the chimney free. I told him thanks a lot and the kid shook my hand and said 'no pal, thank you for all you've done for 27 years. Let them March and complain while the politician's point their fingers at ya. The taxpayers with brains know the truth'. It made me wonder just how many other citizens in this city actually see through the bullshit they get fed. I hope more than it seems. On another note, we should start a page or something for businesses or contractors that are "friends of ours". The guys name was Mike (owner) second city restoration (708) 745-8359. Estimate was free
10/12/2015 01:43:00
He'll yea I know Mike McMahon, he fixed my chimney and resurfaced my porch couple years ago and is definitely "a friend of ours". Great work for great price and cpd discount. And once again fuck rahm! One watch in 007 and he'd be 20 pounds lighter from shitting his pants over and over!
Anonymous said...
I know you don't like Emanuel, but I hope you can realize that he was
defending all of you to the Attorney General and to the public. And what he
said is exactly right.
10/12/2015 11:17:00 AM
"Broken Clock" theory applied to Rahm's little speech.
He was defending no one and was setting up for
deflection if someone actually asked him a hard
and pointy question.
Rahm excels in weasel-speak, code words, slippery syntax,
prevarication, lies of omission, difficult to discern facts etc...
All written communication from his office is artfully crafted,
finely minced word-salad designed first and foremost to
mislead, misinform and misdirect.
If anything, he should have taken a Mea Culpa and accepted
his very real responsibility for Policing having decayed to the
extent that it has in Chicago.
Tell Emanuel to quit his fucking around
and political posturing and fund our pension
and stop hurting our retirees with ruinous
medical insurance premiums in an attempt
to profiteer in front of more pending litigation
the city is going to lose.
Your post seems to infer some innocent miscommunication/misunderstanding
behind the poor relationship between dank and file Policemen and the
malignant manling who did steal the mayoralty of this city with considerable
media and corporate capital which did exploit, undermine and influence
the weaker pillars of our state judiciary which is firmly ensconced and
insulated from the rightful ire of The People.
The baleful eye of recrimination
fixates elsewhere...
Rahm Emanuel arrived in Chicago fully determined
to "take on" the fine men and women of CPD (and CFD) and
to co-opt/destroy/implode from within, their representative
collective bargaining units.
What does it say to a man's character when he visits a
working Fire House and gleefully tells the men who work
there that they're "gonna have to learn to bleed?
What does it say to a man's character when during a
Police contract negotiation, he is attributed as saying,
"We're gonna stick it in the cops ear?"
You see a man who is "smart and business savvy...
We see an ever grasping, patently dishonest, over-compensating,
undersized wanna-be Chicago tuff-guy who excels in hiding behind
layers of insulation and buffers because he fears being exposed for
the vindictive, soft-handed weakling who desperately wants to shape
narrative by being the one to FINALLY "Take Down" those wild and
unruly Chicago Cops (and Chicago Firemen AND Chicago Teachers).
His brain-trust did the logistics.
That narrative could have been ridden to the very steps of
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Pre-ordained coronation that's being held up
by the churls in Chicago...
Let's just say the disdain is mutual.
Anonymous said...
De-policing is not rational. The same coppers who rant and rave about welfare cheats, disability cheats, etc. have no trouble going through a tour and coming in with zeros across the board. How the fuck do you go through an entire tour and you don't even bring in any activity?
On another note I am sick of older veteran officers scaring the shit out of the newbies on this job. They keep telling them "don't do shit", "just answer your calls for service" and "write reports".
No you won't get into trouble if you do your job properly!
10/12/2015 10:01:00 AM
My God, you are an idiot. How did you ever pass the test to get on? Mind boggling, the stupidity....
In his circle of friends fetal means he can abort us at any time.
Rahm is making a movie again this time its about: black lives matter not the police!
fetal, interesting choice of words. fetal is what scared, defeated people do. Is that what you are calling the coppers Rahmbo? tough guy. How about smart?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Scc you confuse me. Ok for police not to do their job and get paid good money?
10/12/2015 07:45:00 AM
The boundaries of policing (the job description) are set by the courts (search, seizure, arrests, lawsuits against the police, etc) and management (politicians set policy and procedure). Today the boundaries are don't chase, don't stop and question, and don't arrest and send "people of color" to jail. The police are responding to the message of doing what their job as the bosses want them to do. No more no less.
Anonymous said...
De-policing is not rational. The same coppers who rant and rave about welfare cheats, disability cheats, etc. have no trouble going through a tour and coming in with zeros across the board. How the fuck do you go through an entire tour and you don't even bring in any activity?
On another note I am sick of older veteran officers scaring the shit out of the newbies on this job. They keep telling them "don't do shit", "just answer your calls for service" and "write reports".
No you won't get into trouble if you do your job properly!
10/12/2015 10:01:00 AM
First please post the GO that states an officer must have activity. Far as old veteran officers go, sounds like something you will never become! You see Daren Wilson, the NYC officers & the officer in Cleveland all did the right thing and still have no career! Fuck activity & fuck you! Do what is required, & go home! Actually you and all 4 of your years should just quit now!
Best of all, there is NOTHING he can do about it!! He can force the alderman to do as he says, but he can't do a thing to us. How great is this!!
Anonymous said...
De-policing is not rational. The same coppers who rant and rave about welfare cheats, disability cheats, etc. have no trouble going through a tour and coming in with zeros across the board. How the fuck do you go through an entire tour and you don't even bring in any activity?
On another note I am sick of older veteran officers scaring the shit out of the newbies on this job. They keep telling them "don't do shit", "just answer your calls for service" and "write reports".
No you won't get into trouble if you do your job properly!
10/12/2015 10:01:00 AM
Atta boy,go get them!!Just make sure your post is printed on the flyer for your fundraiser!I swear I'm good for a Hundo if you do.
Maybe we are in the fetal position reflecting on the prospect of a retirement eating dog food due to an unfunded pension.
They don't have you back
So they can have your ass!
lorretta lynch is a racist n hater
Hey I was born in the fetal position!
It is not that police are not doing their job. They are choosing to stop doing the things that yielded positive policing results that are now frowned upon by the public
Wait until the contact card bs starts! For me Ferguson took the cake and made me really put things in perspective. Risk losing my job and see my family suffer? NO THANKS! 5 years to go, answering radio calls and that's it! On a side note, I too had Mike from second city restoration fix my foundation. Good irishman and charged a quarter of what Perma seal quoted me. Hasn't leaked in 5 years and lifetime warranty. A coppers friend there for sure.
Did Dean "Vanecko" Andrews write the case report for the incident involving the mayor's son? It's no wonder the truth and that report have never met!
Ya'll muthafuckas be layin down!
No alligator arms now!
Bunch of fuckin' pussies.
If ya'll were out givin' wood shampoos, the kids would in school learnin an shit.
Uh....what??? Wood shampoos aye? It's been a while since anyone got one of those. Want one? Buy an old baton and have at it chauncee
Anonymous Anonymous said...
De-policing is not rational. The same coppers who rant and rave about welfare cheats, disability cheats, etc. have no trouble going through a tour and coming in with zeros across the board. How the fuck do you go through an entire tour and you don't even bring in any activity?
On another note I am sick of older veteran officers scaring the shit out of the newbies on this job. They keep telling them "don't do shit", "just answer your calls for service" and "write reports".
No you won't get into trouble if you do your job properly!
It's very easy you should try it sometime. Why in the hell would I want to do anything when all our actions are put under a microscope? It's an art really to de-police, you should see the way I juke and jive from one 19P to another. Since you want to go out and save the world, have at youngster just don't ask me to buy a ticket for your benefit even when you did everything correct. You see I have sat in federal court listing all my assests because some thug wanted what I have and guess what I did my job properly and still took it in the rear. So save your nonsense because you are not lawsuit proof even when your 1000% correct.
765B
I like the video of Rahm's detail running red lights and the story being played a second time January 15th in the Tribune. Apparently he doesn't care about the consequences of being recorded because twice is a pattern. This guy understands as much about police being recorded as much as i do meat slicers. Rahm is a condescending demagogue with robotic precision when beating the talking points dead horse. Nothing about this city's future is reassuring accept when the thought of leaving it comes to mind.
This coming from a guy that went to Sarah Lawrence College and studied ballet. Tough guy from the North Shore. Get rid of your bodyguards tough guy. ♠️
Apparently Rahm's enlightened approach to governing the urban environment is not working. Perhaps Rahm could could enlist a governmental think tank to commence an environmental impact study.
This is what the leaders of the city wanted. Now they want the police to right their wrong.
Warning
Commander KJ was seen sneaking around the 5th district checking to see if people were in the box and on their fixed post
Warning
Warning
He's sneaky and very shady
Don't trust him, he will back stab you
Okay, so it's okay when Rahm gets up in another congressman's face in a shower and starts dropping the f-bomb and threatening him, it's okay for Rahm to send dead fish to rivals - it's okay for Rahm to drop the f-bomb on Karen Lewis, etc etc, etc. and he gets rewarded with a being on the president's staff, $20 million for a do nothing job and now mayor of Chicago ----- but a Chicago cop says the gentle giant from Ferguson got what he deserved and Rahm trashes the cop and gets him suspended and now we're suppose to be pro-active,,,
We need more fixed posts and mission teams damn it!
10:01 am..... Are you really saying that uve never heard of officers being hung out to dry by the department even when they were acting "properly"? If the City catches heat from the public, you better believe its gonna flow down hill. You must have just gotten off of probation.......
OMG , all these years da poleece been doing it wrong
Thank you fake reruns , community activists turned politicians
We got the message and will follow the rules you made , no probable cause , no stops , pAt downs , call of drug sales , men with guns drive by , check it out , drive slow , see a weapon bulging out of waist band , make a stop , don't. See bulge or any narco sales keep on patrol .
Unfounded 19-p White paper on all domestic battery , show the violence , request ET for photographs of victim , make an arrest if offender on the scene .. If threatened or physically assaulted , make the report . Be safe , back each other up .
He got what he asked for and now he is complaining ????????
Did I miss something but Rahm was having our backs. Let's relax and not knock on the guy so quick. He said what we all are saying and that's because of recent events coppers are being less proactive. Stop with this victim mentality with all these comments. It sounded to me like he was standing up for us.
I don't see it as the police in the "fetal" position, I see it as the police are in the ferguson position. Obama, you, and all the other liberal leaders failing this nation sought this and here it is.
"Tough guy from the North Shore. Get rid of your bodyguards tough guy."
How many police officers had to be detailed to escort Rahm to Wrigley Field tonight, so the preening egotist could be televised seated behind home plate? Since this was not an official function, why do the taxpayers have to pay for Emanuel to attend a ballgame?
I once observed McFartFace in a fetal position just after closing time.
"To do nothing,
is to do nothing wrong."
"In Policing,
99% right is
100% wrong."
Viva Hate...
Police like you have no friends.
Wear those crown hats that will solve it.
I will continue to stand down... No jail time for doing nothing.
To all you "It sounded like Rahm was standing up for you guys."
No...
No he wasn't.
He was insinuating that the Police
themselves are the primary cause
for the increase in crime.
If only they would buy into the Compstat
"Crime is Down" strategy and stop fighting their
betters at City Hall and HQ.
>>>Anonymous said...
Wait until the new contact card agreement takes effect. McCarthy is going to lose it and wind up quitting because he will be labeled a failure. I for one told the guys that work for me that they should only stop people involved in a crime that they know took place, not one that they suspect will take place. To much liability otherwise. Proactive Police work is dead and it is a shame that it has come to this. This is what the ACLU and the liberals wanted, well now you got it. Enjoy the spike in crime that is continually climbing.
Signed,
Fed up Sgt.
10/12/2015 11:27:00 AM<<<
No he won't just quit here is why....
From the webpage www.cityofcicago.org
https://data.cityofchicago.org/Administration-Finance/Current-Employee-Names-Salaries-and-Position-Title/xzkq-xp2w
Line 7606 MC CARTHY F. SUPERINTENDENT OF POLICE POLICE $260,004
Highest paid employee on the City payroll and who knows what he has on the side.
Quit, I don't think so. He hasn't failed as a hatchetman for Rahm.
Rahm STFU and fund my damn pension!!!
This is the Police Department Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Toni Prepwincle and other Liberal Democratic stalwarts wanted, Now they Have It. They have persecuted and blamed the Police for years,now when the Police finally say they have had enough they cry foul. Well I got news for them, it's going to get a lot worse. Oh I will be OK in my neighborhood, with eleven coppers on my one block alone we will be all right, will even comply with Our inept Cook County Board President and won't send more criminals of color to jail, if the crime they commit on my block or in my neighborhood is serious enough I will even save her county the cost of a trial. As for the rest of the City in "neighborhoods of color", you are going to wish "more criminals if color were in jail. Yet even as Rahm speaks of the Police being in a Fetal position, his former boss, the absolute worst President in American History is freeing 6,000 black and Hispanic drug offenders and plans to free 80,000 total.Does the worst President in history not understand that most of the shootings are over Drug Turf ?
By the way does anyone remember "Obama care will lower the average American family's healthcare cost by $2,500"? How could the American Public be so stupid as to Elect a Chicago Politician to the highest office in the land?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Did I miss something but Rahm was having our backs. Let's relax and not knock on the guy so quick. He said what we all are saying and that's because of recent events coppers are being less proactive. Stop with this victim mentality with all these comments. It sounded to me like he was standing up for us.
10/12/2015 10:17:00 PM
Yea, you did.
As a Sergeant in a south side district, and having worked all over the city as well.
I do not agree with Rham. the men and women of this department handle their calls, help people all over the city , and do a great job! The real problem is the severe shortage of manpower and the brain dead policies of the current administration, a thing I like to call departmental disconnect. the brass is ball less and has bought into the bullshit of compstat. they cook the numbers in order to make them look good to cover up the manpower shortage. no sos no strike force, no tru, no summer mobile , short detectives , sergeants, police officers etc. etc. Then the wonder why the lakefront and other neighborhoods are fucked up???? don't even get me started on operation no impact! lets hamstring a lot of kids who don't know anything usually with a sergeant that knows less. Oh don't make any arrests and walk around a war zone while your at it. yes this department isn't fetal its been destroyed by mismanagement, and the mayor is too stubborn or stupid to fix it.
no he wants it reduced in size so he can earmark funding away from the police budget for his cronies and for political purposes.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Warning
Commander KJ was seen sneaking around the 5th district checking to see if people were in the box and on their fixed post
Warning
Warning
He's sneaky and very shady
Don't trust him, he will back stab you
10/12/2015 08:50:00 PM
WARNING ALL THE COMMANDERS ARE THAT WAY!
Anonymous said...
Did I miss something but Rahm was having our backs. Let's relax and not knock on the guy so quick. He said what we all are saying and that's because of recent events coppers are being less proactive. Stop with this victim mentality with all these comments. It sounded to me like he was standing up for us.
10/12/2015 10:17:00 PM
Love and Kisses Rham
Did I miss something but Rahm was having our backs. Let's relax and not knock on the guy so quick. He said what we all are saying and that's because of recent events coppers are being less proactive. Stop with this victim mentality with all these comments. It sounded to me like he was standing up for us.
10/12/2015 10:17:00 PM
Yeah, like the way he was standing up for the cop that only repeated what the ferguson grand jury said.
If he thinks im a fetal officer now, wait till i have a body camera and have to give aclu receipts, comatose might be a better description.
10/12/2015 01:07:00 AM
Exactly!
"The Police acted stupidly..."
Just once, the man says something that has some validity to it and speaks not just for cpd but for all LE and still, we find something to bitch and moan about. Yes he said fetal. Quit crying about it. It's an expression. I don't think he meant it to be literal. If you don't think the current issues have made officers second guess their actions, you're crazy. Second guessing ourselves will not only cause crime to go up but will get us hurt.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Did I miss something but Rahm was having our backs. Let's relax and not knock on the guy so quick. He said what we all are saying and that's because of recent events coppers are being less proactive. Stop with this victim mentality with all these comments. It sounded to me like he was standing up for us.
10/12/2015 10:17:00 PM
Well, today Emanuel elaborated on his earlier statement, to 'clarify' it. And, no he was blaming us for the rise in crime; he wasn't defending us.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Again a little advice to hair gels...
As a guy somewhere between the mustache and hair gel police I would say that most of the "hair gel" coppers have ten to fifteen years on now. You're talking to the back pack police. Of course, judging by your condescending tone, you're probably one of those guys who has always declared people with 1 minute less than you has no time on the job. Good message, bad delivery, horrible messenger.
We have sgts and up who are out only to cover their own behind now.. Not all of them but everyone is about them and how they survive. They don't want to have to answer to anyone or get called out by anyone. Some bosses in the past had some balls and would actually stand behind their guys... And I mean really stand up for them. Now we have bosses who are terrified of what GMAC might say or do. You realize this is just a job right?? If you screw up non criminally you face talkng a suspension... It's not the end of the world. So many people are terrified to take a day. Gimme a few days.. I'll happily take them. It's so common now these days for white shirts to get numbers on coppers now at the drop of a hate... Like the new LT scumbag who is gettin a number on VRI guys because he got a parking ticket.. Gimme a break kap u putz
I'm a detective and I can tell you that there's still too many officers out there that are not "fetal" enough and way too proactive in this anti-police climate.
Hate to break the news to 9.5 but, I have 8 years left and I consider myself Retired already. I only do what is required of me, and arrest are only upon signed complaints by a victim. You and the rest of the democRATs in this country made it perfectly clear what you want the police to do from now on.
Cant wait for the feds to grab you in the Barbara byrd scandal
Stay safe.
Col Hanibal Smith
10:01 AM poster What did Darren Wilson do wrong, he was vilified and will never work in law enforcement again, get your head out of your ass its a new day and even if you do your job "properly" you might have a steep price to pay for doing your job. And before you call me a do nothing dog I had 36 years on the job and worked in the old task force and tact teams in 4 different districts, was in patrol for 16 years before I made Sergeant and was a sergeant over 20 years so I know a little bit about this job, and how it should be done. And pro active policing is finished.
You can't control how the treat you!!!! But you can control how you treat them!!!! Cooter said
All policeman should remember Ferguson each and every day for the rest of their careers. We got sold out by half the population of the U.S. PERIOD.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Again a little advice to hair gels . Respond to all in progress with lights on and sirens , drive careful , you must arrive safe to help the victim and other officers . Request medical attention for victim , protect crime scene , interview victim , get all the facts , send a flash message with description of offender . Hopefully news media will be listening and get race of offenders ? Write a report , make all notification , then tour the area for offender . Go home safe to your loved ones . No on view street stops .
10/12/2015 03:44:00 PM
Excellent, excellent advice.
Retired training officer says , no fetal position , police are now operating within the rules . Police will always respond to calls , assist victims , make arrests when necessary . Now addressing gang loitering , drug sales, no reason to stop and search 4-10 kids on a corner , keep on patrol . Disturbance calls at 2-3 in the morning , no noise when I drive by . No complainant 5-p .
Write the Parkingviolations , let everyone know we were on patrol .
Be safe .
I am no fan of Rham, but I agree w/ 10:17 PM. Rham ,I think , finally gets it!
It will take a generation to turn things around in the policing world. Nothing can be done for some time to come. The liberals have beaten the police into the ground and now they want to blame the police. One of the new candidates for Cook County States' attorney is opposed to jail time for carrying a gun on the street as it adversely effects blacks. All I can say is , "No shit".
No you won't get into trouble if you do your job properly!
10/12/2015 10:01:00 AM
Well, I can tell you after a lifetime on this job that your statement is just not accurate. It can and does happen. The trouble lies in the definition of what is " proper".
Let's see aggressive officers what do you get?
1) No backing from gold star club!
2) Sued losing your home,pension,freedom,family, your honor!
Non aggressive who follow the rules!
1) Normal blood pressure
2) relaxed retire and get your pension and keep what you earned a no brainer rahm!
All you liberal cowards have nobody to blame but yourselves. You put very cop under the microscope anytime he has to do something aggressive. We are the protectors, the glue of society, but at every turn you have taken every opportunity to destroy us. Well, now you have made your bed and must lay in it. TBH, I've never given a damn about anything on this job except for the first and the 16th. However, with the new anti-police sentiment put in place, not to mention every measure being put in place to jam me up, including body cameras, street stop tickets, in-car cameras yadayadayada, expect my dogassery to reach unprecedented heights
Anonymous said...
"De-policing is not rational. The same coppers who rant and rave about welfare cheats, disability cheats, etc. have no trouble going through a tour and coming in with zeros across the board. How the fuck do you go through an entire tour and you don't even bring in any activity?
On another note I am sick of older veteran officers scaring the shit out of the newbies on this job. They keep telling them "don't do shit", "just answer your calls for service" and "write reports".
No you won't get into trouble if you do your job properly!"
10/12/2015 10:01:00 AM
.....you must be one of those hard chargers hiding behind the desk in the academy and "Legitimacy Training" is your masterpiece.
So Rahm realizes there is a problem which
exists in the Chicago Police Department,
will do absolutely nothing about it, even though
he is the only one in the position to fix it.
A sad scenario.
Dr, Cina will sign the death certificate of the once
great and proud Chicago Police Department.
>>>Agree with Sgt GoCUBS
"...The real problem is the severe shortage of manpower and the brain dead policies of the current administration, a thing I like to call departmental disconnect. the brass is ball less and has bought into the bullshit of compstat. they cook the numbers in order to make them look good to cover up the manpower shortage. no sos no strike force, no tru, no summer mobile , short detectives , sergeants, police officers etc. etc. Then the wonder why the lakefront and other neighborhoods are fucked up???? don't even get me started on operation no impact! lets hamstring a lot of kids who don't know anything usually with a sergeant that knows less. ..."
A large part of the problem is the MERITAZATION of SUPERVISION. All levels of supervision on the district level have been cut down and now a sergeant, sometime a new sergeant is now doing the job that was once done by n old gray haired Captain. Just to save money and divert it. Where do they go to ask for advice. Now there are few people who have really spent time hitting the books studying all the orders and could advise their troops at roll calls how to avoid trouble and still get the job done and write paper to save their careers when things go wrong.
We all know this. It is the public who pays the price in taxes, blood in losses to their homes and incomes who do not and accepts this as the new normal. Somehow we have to teach them that Rahm and Garry are their enemy and are cheating them through corruption. Talk to your friends and neighbors. Get this information out in other places than this blog, Deano isn't going to do it.
And most importantly, get everyone you can to REGESTER and VOTE!
"Since this was not an official function, why do the taxpayers have to pay for Emanuel to attend a ballgame?"
10/12/2015 11:09:00 PM
You'd think that he could get a crew of heavies from "GOLAN MOVERS."
They got all that s__t into his basement, they could help him out in a tight.
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When another copper gets reamed for doing his job, this will only make the coppers who are willing to work slow down a little bit more. Until the culture of this current generation wises up a little, we are on standby...
P.S. I mentioned on a post on this thread about MERITIZATION of SUPERVISION and how new Sergeants were doing the job of gray hired old Captains. We needed supervisors who had spent time studying the orders and passed tests. I forgot to add that they should also study the CONTRACTS, and the PSYCHOLOGY of dealing with people under stress.
I agree with Sgt. Go Cubs that's it in a nut shell.
10/12/2015 04:40:00 PM Excellent! and many others are simply spit my coffee hilarious.
From schoolmate of Rahm's "He was an asshole then he is an asshole, now!"
Been on almost 7 years and have a long way to go. 3rd generation cpd and my old man says my grandfather would turn in his grave if he saw what this job has become. My dad warned me over and over that he didn't think it was a good idea after taking the written because the dept. seemed to be going in a direction he wasn't fond of. That was 9 years ago. Now he just shakes his head in disbelief and tells me to get out while I'm young enough to try something different and get the fuck out of the city. It's hard to think about doing anything else but being on the job here. It's fucked up. Btw, had second city restoration do work for me too, nice cpd discount. Found them on Facebook though.
Desk Sergeant always did the work of old gray haired captains . It's about time we have complete control .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Desk Sergeant always did the work of old gray haired captains . It's about time we have complete control .
10/14/2015 09:52:00 AM
You just don't get it.
You got control, responsibility, culpability, but what you don't get is the OUT OF GRADE PAY.
"No you won't get into trouble if you do your job properly!"
10/12/2015 10:01:00 AM
Dude I know you have the Internet as you're on SCC. Google this: Ferguson Mo. OR Police shooting in Ferguson. There was cop there who shot a guy. Did his job. Named Darren Wilson.
Taking guns off the streets was always easy. Just grab a few collections from working jagoffs who's wives turned on them and the city has its numbers for the month. You can even do it while fetal, and then show all the inside cops, while wearing your tight blue jeans, the pictures of the great gun pinch you made.
'course the poor schmuck you stole them from never committed a crime with them.
Its taking the jagoffs off the streets while fetal thats hard.
>>>Anonymous said...
Desk Sergeant always did the work of old gray haired captains . It's about time we have complete control .
10/14/2015 09:52:00 AM<<<
Why should Rahm promote you to Captain or even Lieutenant when you will do the work at a paltry Sergeant's pay and pension. Might as well farm this job out to the Daley-Vanecko firm in Mumbai India.
Reasonable suspicion is out the window. Any officer taking action on that standard of proof is opening himself up to a lawsuit as our actions are no longer judged by reasonable people.
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