Mixed Message
- The top cops in America's four biggest cities said on Wednesday that the war on drugs has failed to keep America safe and that it's time to reform the country's criminal justice system, a view now officially shared by more than 125 other prosecutors, sheriffs, attorneys general, and law enforcement leaders from across the US.
The police chiefs of Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston appeared together in Washington, DC to explain a new initiative called Law Enforcement Leaders to Reduce Crime and Incarceration ahead of a meeting with President Barack Obama on Thursday afternoon. The chiefs and other law enforcement officials said their goals include reducing incarceration and protecting public safety.
Okay, so the War on Drugs is a failure. Hooray for drugs! Is there going to be a parade?
But then this paragraph pops up later in the article:
But then this paragraph pops up later in the article:
- Gerry [sic] McCarthy, Chicago's top cop, said the use of data by police departments to evaluate success has made cities safer, but there are still problems that need to be addressed. He noted that the Windy City has experienced more gun violence this year despite arrests for gun crimes going up 25 percent. He argued that Chicago needs to focus more on strict sentences for gun crimes and less on drug arrests.
"It's really clear we can reduce violence and crime, and at the same time reduce incarceration rates," McCarthy said. "I really think that what we have to do in this country, and maybe this is a little bit radical, is rethink what constitutes crime."
Aside form the complete disconnect that longer and harsher prison sentences reduce crime by the segment of individuals committing most of the crime, what the hell is this statistic about "arrests for gun crimes going up 25 percent."??? We thought Rahm said we were candy-asses? That YouTube had removed any sort of impetus toward proactive policing? That a post-Ferguson world and Sparklefarts war on the police had provoked a de-policing backlash unseen in history.
We're confused.
We're confused.
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Dopers and slingers actively making the area hell all day and night get an easy ride. Don't get caught with an old .22 under a half-inch of dust in the basement on a side street that hasn't seen a shooting since 1932, though.
We hear you.
"The city you see is the city they want."
Don't be confused. It is all politics and you should not believe anything a politician tells you. Large City top cops are all politicians themselves. Generally speaking putting violent criminals in jail and keeping them there is a deterrent to crime. Executions also help.
The International Association of Chiefs of Police will be coming to Chicago for a convention this weekend. I have several out of town friends visiting and up until
a couple of hours ago they all wanted Cubs T-shirts.
But they all want CHICAGO MURDER CAPITAL OF THE WORLD T-Shirts. The black ones with the four red skulls on the Chicago flag.
Of course we will get them for our friends. We will get a size too small for the gals and if McCarthy shows up they will mob him for a photo op.
http://www.theiacpconference.org/iacp2015/public/enter.aspx
FREE Exposition Pass for Public Safety Personnel
Sworn officers, first responders, and civilian employees of public safety and government agencies and the armed forces can register for complimentary access to the Exposition Hall. Public Safety includes offices of police, sheriffs, EMS, fire service, hazmat and park rangers from federal, state, city, county, campus, and tribal agencies, and the armed forces. To qualify for this three-day exhibit hall-only pass, the recipient must work for the government or a public safety agency and will be required to show their credentials upon arrival. The IACP reserves the right to refuse ineligible registrations. Exposition Hall registrants cannot purchase Chief's Night tickets.
On-line registration for this free Pass will close on October 16, 2015. On-site Registration will open October 23 at 1:00pm.
Aside from that.... remember to get lots of contact cards. That's all that counts
So if you can't curb crime then just give up enforcing laws. But wait, there would be no crime if there were no laws articulating the crime. Solution, eliminate laws.
Pretending there is no crime by either looking the other way, ignoring crime, or by writing crime out of the statutes by eliminating the law does not make everyone safer. It is a false illusion. One that ultimately endangers everyone.
If gov is willing to do this for drug offenses, which the LEFT considers to be a non-violent crime, then why not do this for theft, shoplifting, burglary, auto theft, etc?
Only have crimes that involve the harming of people? Yeah that is the answer.
Time to invest in more raw material for the coming storm.
Brilliant Idea! Just let them sell drugs on the street corners.
It's not like the thugs have ever shot up a neighborhood fighting over who sells on that corner.
Stop arresting the dealers and the addicts for selling, buying and possessing drugs.
Instead you can arrest the dealers for assault and murder because because they are fighting over turf and the best sale spot.
You can arrest the junkies for ripping off people, and busting up old ladies that don't let go of the purse fast enough.
What constitutes a crime? How about all of the laws on the books, it's not our fault that a certain segment of society refuses to obey them. He's really drinking the cool aid. Next he'll be talking about non violent drug offenders. He truely is a sell out, how does he sleep at night, I wonder what else they will tell him to say.
Don't lock up the addicts, because they never commit any other crimes besides possessing drugs. They never think of stealing anything not nailed down to pay for their next fix.
If you are not going to lock up the dealers slinging the shit on the corner, can you at least give them some shooting lessons? I'd rather they actually shoot their gang banging rivals than the 3 year old kid and the 64 year old woman in the house behind the thug they were blazing away at.
From now on there is no more crime...everybody can go home now and play with puppies and kitties and watch rainbows.
OY...can anyone confirm or deny that IAD took a sergeant and 2 PO's out of Homan Square recently, in handcuffs?
But wait drugs kill people and guns kill people aren't both illegal. How could this happen G Mac?
Drugs are the downfall of our country and it keeps getting worse.....
McCarthy also supports sanctuary cities. When top cop in Newark he said 'irrelevant' when a reporter reminded him that a few
illegal alien gangbangers who killed four black kids should have been deported. He just parrots the liberal bullshit to be soft on criminals.
So, tac teams are no more?
probably don't need Detectives anymore, since their primary role IS to put people in jail.
when mcstreetlights and others reduce crime to zero. he can trade in his pretty checkered hat for one patton wore on the battlefield.
I really want police chiefs making laws!
Not one original idea. Garry is stealing stuff that was in criminal justice classes in the 90's.
Kinda like the garbage man talking being green.
We live in a world were overdosing on crack and ecstasy in a bordello is grounds to reconcile a divorce. The Left spins this like they are pushing to release Black Men caught with a joint, which is ridiculous. Our already out of control neighborhoods are about to become unbearable and thrown into anarchy.
It doesn't matter what they say, the fools will believe them.
Gerry McCarthys' word salad.
word sal·ad
noun
noun: word salad
a confused or unintelligible mixture of seemingly random words and phrases, specifically (in psychiatry) as a form of speech indicative of advanced schizophrenia.
Garry McHatchetman will be lecturing the International Association of Chiefs of Police on HOW TO RUIN A MAJOR CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FUN AND PROFIT.
Workshops and focus groups include:
"If there is No Police, No Problem." Getting the public to accept the New Normal of lack of service in their neighborhoods.
"Crime is Down" The Mantra of you must keep repeating.
"How to Control the Talking Heads News Reporters" The importance of enforcing ignorance and political correctness.
"How to Reward Police Union Leaders." Contracts, are what we say they mean.
Funny how Rahm recognizes it's about the money.
Rahm tries to cut off the money to legal gun manufacturers by going to the banks, demanding pension funds to not invest in companies involved with firearms, etc.
On the other hand funny that Rahm refuses to go after the illicit drug business that finances the purchase of illegal guns tho eh?
Isn't it obvious that Rahm doesn't want to win the drug war as that is a tool to build his empire.
Instead taxpayers get the same tired solutions that are not solutions at all.
Here we are again with the gun buy back program, a failure.
Soon I suspect millions will be blown on Cease Fire again another failure.
The call for bans, a failure. Declaration of war. War on poverty. War on drugs. failures.
How's that city ban on spray paint working out eh?
How's that ban on illicit drugs working out? Failures.
Sure you can count the number of gun turn-ins and tout the figures however where's the correlation to the reduction of people being shot and violence? There is none.
It's all just a Syllogistic fallacy?
1.) They want to de-criminalize black males.
2.) They want to take guns away from law abiding people, esp. conservative, Christian , whites.
They have to push for more gun control. The Joyce Foundation is paying the mayor's office $150k per year to do so.
Hmmmm.
Drug addicts commit crime.
They drive under the influence of drugs.
They commit more domestic related crime under the influence of drugs, beat their spouses and kids, take drugs while pregnant, steal from their families, spend all the money for the household on their drugs.
They steal, rob and burglarize to get money for their drugs.
These are all more serious crimes than just merely being in possession of a bag of drugs.
However, arresting people for possession of drugs makes the rates of all of the above go down. You can't commit these crimes on the streets of Chicago if you are incarcerated. AND you don't have to rely on witness cooperation, identification, etc etc etc.
Legalize possession and delivery of drugs and the real nightmare begins. Maybe there should be an experiment with a drug legal zone (Hamsterdam) and have 24 hour video surveillance, but with no interference. Let the public watch. See what a great idea this ISN'T.
Are we winning the war on drugs? No, we have small victories here and there. Giving up is enabling people with their bad behavior. You want to make a zone for them where they eventually purge themselves from this world without taking anyone new with them, fine. You want to make it possible to continue to spread the infection of their ways? Sorry, not me, not ever, not for my kids.
Shame on you police chiefs for bowing to the wishes of the only president who has openly hated the police.
I am shocked that a career law enforcement official would be surrendering and taking such a stand. But then again, I shouldn't be. Let's face it, McCarthy is a political animal and a survivor. He is trying to hold onto his job by deflecting blame and spinning Rahm's comments that the cops are laying down. The inference here is that the police profession should "morph" into being caretakers of the community and not law enforcers, thus decriminalizing everything short of getting a gun stuck in your face.
I don't think they are talking about violent criminals, but drug users and the crimes that they commit to support their habit, mostly property crimes. We need more residential drug treatment and drug courts. This is a medical problem, not a law enforcement problem. Anyone who has had a dysfunctional drug user in their family will understand. No enabling, but tough love and treatment. There is just not enough beds out there in residential treatment.
Just get rid of the war on some drugs already. It's an abject failure that hasn't done a thing except to violate our Civil Liberties and everyone knows it. The whole thing is farcical at best.
That "War" has led to an arms race by the dealers. Corruption by politicians and police, etc. and an ever growing desire for people who want to get stoned to try something else because they can't get their drug of choice.
Who really gives a shit what someone wants to ingest? The only rule should be: "No driving, no operating heavy machinery, no carrying a firearm while baked out of your mind."
Smoke all the weed you want. I don't give a shit - tax it reasonably (regular sales tax), and people will go to the liquor/weed store to get it. Taxes get collected, State gets some revenue. Set aside 10% of the taxes collected for "addiction and abuse" treatment - if someone's an addict, they get ONE shot to get clean. If they don't get clean, fuck 'em - they made the choice, they get to live with it.
If you can't afford your drugs, and you commit crimes you go to jail. You get clean in jail, and you get the bill for that "cleaning" service - it's a fine to be paid back to the State. When you're out, you have to work for the State cleaning up trash on highways, etc. to pay back your bill.
But a large majority of this black market shit goes away because you can get whatever you want without talking to Pookie & Co. down on da corner in the hood...
Issue import/export licenses for this stuff - no reason why Hawaii's Maui Wowwwwwwie! can't be exported to those who want it...
We tried, we failed, we need to take a different tactic on that War.
The criminals using firearms in furtherance of their criminal acts need to go to prison for 10 years minimum. No bullshit plea bargains, early release, parole, time off for good behavior, concurrent sentencing, etc. CONSECUTIVE SENTENCES baby! 10 years for each of the crimes, and you're gone for 10 years minimum on each, so you're looking at 50 years - is it really worth it to do a drive by shooting on Pookie's Crib when you're going away for 50 years? And you're 20 now? Spend your whole adult life in a fucking box? Even the most dense of the rock creatures can understand that it's not worth it.
Put and keep the nasty mutherfuckers in prison for long stretches. I was surprised by what McStreetlights said on TV the other night, and was amazed - he's pretty much on the money with this one...
Portugal has completely decriminalized recreational drug use including heroin. By all accounts it is mostly a positive experience.
It is not a perfect answer but is likely the least bad answer. It is very clear that the war on drugs has been an abject failure to do anything other than lead to a massive loss of personal liberty and huge shifts of power from citizens to governments at all levels.
The Dirty little secret is..."Americans Like their Drugs" We spend more money per capita than any other modern civilization out there. Not all, but a vast number will do anything to get them, or worse sell them. It was said long ago, that the use of drugs will become common place and normal society will begin to accept it's existence. More social change is on the way...Legal Marijuana, lighter sentencing guidelines, early release for non violent offenders, social programs for addicts. Can anybody see the swirling over the drain here...? The writing is on the wall.
McCarthy is a first class asshole. People are in jail because they were caught after committing crimes and received the punishment they deserve. If it costs so much to house these criminals, why not make them or their families pay for their incarceration. After payment then and only then can they be released. The laws of early days were made to punish and rehabilitate. It no longer works. Todays criminals are more violent that in days gone by. That's why we need to go back to public executions. Once gone they will no longer prey on the innocent.
The war on drugs is, and has always been a farce. While our gov't cannot openly condone the influx of addictive drugs as a form of oppressing certain classes.
The gov't CAN and does allow certain traffickers to excel.
If TRUMP is elected; he will covertly work to have Chapo Guzman pay for the border fence with narco-trafficking proceedings.
Put a gun to someone's face and say "Give me your money or Wanna buy 10 bags of heron'. Nice example of bullshit, because joe needs the gun to protect his assets and his ass. Joe 10 bags gets to sell all day and nite, so he eventually hopes to have his own empire ... HUH-WUH ... does that really happen, is it possible? Can joe only be just a seller and not a shooter?
- What seems to be most severe form of punishment is the tax increase on homeowners property (valued over $250.000), increase in fines for not shoveling snow on that property and of course continual tax increases on a public education system that produces the gun toting population of the City. There won't be any benefit to payers by clearing jails & releasing inmates, only more crime by those trying re establish there old territories. Another Democrat Fail.
Chicago needs a friggin' Tea Party.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke.
CPD is down coppers drastically, now even the secret service is overworking agents as evidenced here!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/10/22/inspector-to-issue-formal-alert-to-secret-service-about-overworking-staff-after-two-officers-were-found-asleep-at-their-posts/
Build the wall, stop illegal invaders we could easily fund police, pensions, health care for seniors simple answer, do what the people want, wonder why people like what Trump is saying? Trump may be wealthy a 1% but he gets it, he understands how to make money and not throw taxpayers money down a long sewer system with no bottom!
Drug Facts...90% or more of Drugs Smuggled into America are controlled by Mexican Drug Cartels,Money is laundered mostly thru Restaurants Jewelery Store's and Grocery Stores,Im talking Billions of dollars,The Vice Unit's and DEA are dumb as Shit or don't want to. bust these Businesses
McCarthy was on the PBS News Hour last nite spouting this drivel. It's like they believe they can convince people that we are locking up simple possession cases, not the criminal strata in the levels above -- the hard crime cases that really prey on honest citizens.
The whirlwind is coming. Stay safe out there.
The SUPT is actually very clever. He realizes the direction of the prevailing winds and he's getting ahead of them. He's laying the ground work for future employment. Remember almost all large cities in th USA are liberal and controlled by democrats. He will easily work as a Chief executive in another city after Chicago.
With an epidemic of heroin overdoses and overdose deaths, our fearless leaders is a costumed advocate seeking to lessen the crime. If you cannot stop these fools consuming the south of the border drug cartel products of poison, encourage further use by decriminalizing the consumption and the possession of controlled substances.
McCarthy, you are a tool of the democratic far left wing progressives who seek to destroy the fabric of our western society. If you haven't yet noticed, many of your city's homicides are directly a result of drug turfs and the off the books revenue it's generates. Illegal narcotics and the money area primary contributor of violence in the inner city.
Play nice with the democrats and the highest office holder advancing their agenda to destroy our civilized society and you will be rewarded with another highest ranking position in a big city department which you can destroy.
Better yet, tell the families of overdose victims you encourage more criminal behavior by lessening the crime and its consequences. Switzerland lost a whole generation in their needle park and legalized heroin epidemic. Unaware America is next.
Maybe McCarthy you should call out the established political apparatus to create employment opportunities and middle class jobs. This is far more important than legalizing the feel good poison and the expense in so many ways which it literally destroys America.
Drug dealing has nothing to do with violence? Reason for high Federal mandatory minimums on crack cocaine due to what? Possibly the homicide rate? Nah
OT --
The terrors of the "Sanctuary City..."
...or Rahm's variant, "Welcoming City."
‘Obvious flight risk’: Toddler's brutal beating prompts call to withhold bail from illegal immigrants
October 22, 2015
"When Francisco Javier Chavez posted bail on charges of beating a California toddler within an inch of her life in late July, there was little reason to expect the illegal immigrant, who has spent much of his adult life hopping back and forth across the Mexican border, would return to face justice.
"Two weeks later, at his scheduled arraignment on Aug. 13, Chavez was a no-show. The 27-year-old career criminal had put up $10,000, or 10 percent...
"While Chavez is in the wind...the 2-year-old daughter of his live-in girlfriend is now in foster care, paralyzed from the beating that also left her with both arms and a femur broken. Well before he was arrested...for attacking the child, Chavez had compiled a lengthy criminal record that includes assault and drug convictions and arrests for violent acts such as kidnapping, car-jacking and cruelty to a child. He was deported in February 2014, but as in previous instances, found it easy to sneak back across the border and into the U.S.
"Weeks after Chavez slipped out of custody, on Sept. 1, another 2-year-old toddler named Jonathan Montez was run down and killed in San Bernardino County. Illegal immigrant Jose Enrique Vasquez, 53, an unlicensed driver who...was speeding down the child’s residential street, fled the scene. He was arrested two weeks later, and, like Chavez, was granted bail.
"Vasquez also has compiled a lengthy criminal record under various aliases, including charges of spousal abuse, battery of a peace officer, driving without a license, driving under the influence and armed robbery. Other charges...[include] failure to appear in court, possession of false citizenship documents and eight deportations for illegally entering the country."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/22/obvious-flight-risk-near-fatal-beating-california-toddler-prompts-call-to/
...and San Francisco just "reaffirmed" its "sanctuary" status, even after the senseless murder of a woman out for a walk after SFPD ignored a deportation hold and let the killer -- just released from prison -- walk out the door.
Those bills denying federal funding to cities that do not cooperate should definitely be passed. Now.
We need a "Devil's Island" style of prison. We just dump the hardened criminals there and they fend for themselves. Why I'd even say use that one Hawaiian island that used to house leapers.
From the IACP --
Assault Weapons Ban -- "The IACP has been a strong supporter of the assault weapons ban [and ban on magazines holding more than ten rounds] since 1992..."
Body Armor -- "The IACP supports legislation to prohibit the mail order sale of bulletproof vests and body armor to all individuals except sworn or certified law enforcement officers."
Concealed Weapons -- "The IACP continues to oppose any federal legislative proposals that would either pre‐empt and/or mandate the liberalization of individual states’ CCW laws pertaining to the carrying of concealed weapons in other states...This applies to private citizens as well as law enforcement personnel.
Firearm Purchase Waiting Period -- "The IACP supports legislation to create a mandatory five‐day waiting period prior to the completion of a handgun purchase."
&c.
Marijuana study: Number of Americans toking up doubles in 10 years
October 22, 2015
(CNN)A heck of a lot more Americans were toking up in 2012-13 than 10 years before -- and not for medical reasons, either -- according to a new study.
"The percentage of American adults who had used marijuana within the last year was 9.5%, the study found. That compared to 4.1% in 2001-02.
"With the increase in use has come an increase in the total number of what the study called "marijuana use disorders"...about one in three [users] showing signs of dependence or abuse."
Driving while drugged now just as deadly as drunk driving
October 1, 2015
CNN -- "An estimated 38% of people who die in car crashes have detectable levels of drugs such as marijuana and amphetamines in their system...That is nearly the same percentage as tested positive for alcohol. Driving while under the influence of marijuana and other drugs is on the rise in the United States, and could be involved in a large number of fatal accidents...The most common drug [was] marijuana (34.7%)..."
...and then they are watching music videos or texting in there...
Not good.
NYC police officer shot and killed a couple of days ago by a "nonviolent" drug offender who was released early. If offender was still in prison that officer is still alive.
Interesting article in the New York Times which covers the Line of Duty death of NYPD Officer Holder. His assailant shot him once point blank in the head during a street stop looking for an armed assailant who had stolen a bicycle at gunpoint. The murderer had a sealed juvie record & his prior adult activity was probation for street dealing. When he stopped attending his diversion classes a warrant was issued.
So instead of appearing at this police leadership conference in Washington, Cmnsr. Bill Bratton was burying another officer - 4 LODDs this year for NYPD. RIP PO HOLDER.
Anonymous said...
OY...can anyone confirm or deny that IAD took a sergeant and 2 PO's out of Homan Square recently, in handcuffs?
10/22/2015 06:28:00 AM
I heard it was the FBI
one idea....since Black Lives Matter is such an important organization, and seems to garner much of the headlines recently....maybe American law enforcement should stand down....then, when citizens need police service, they should be directed to Black Lives Matter, and maybe they can dispatch their people to assist the callers.....hey, liberals, it's what you wanted....no?
As long as the DEMAND for drugs is there the SUPPLY of drugs is there. We have been literally killing ourselves over a crime that can some day be made legal. Will robbery,burglary,rape,shooting somebody,beatings,kidnappings and so on of forcible felonies ever be made legal?
Stop playing the mans game, go after the criminals that commit crimes against person. If it happens to be a drug dealer, drug user, oh well.
Laws will never and have never stopped people from getting high or drunk
Fentanyl, think of all the good its done........
Japan has harsh short prison sentences. Prisoners don't want to come back.
It's cheaper to keep "non-violent offenders" (leftist/media code for drug dealers) in prison actually. Crunch the real numbers and see. These aren't people who would hold down any kind of job even if you handed it to them on a plate. They destroy our society and bleed us dry of money when they're on the street.
Anyone who says prisons are full of felons who merely consumed drugs are idiots or simply repeating propaganda from the Drug Policy Alliance, aka the doper lobby.
10/22/2015 07:12:00 AM and 10/22/2015 09:53:00 AM are 100% correct.
Maybe the HQ building should fly a white flag along the other flags.
This is DISGUSTING!!!!!!
Pension Board Election Results
The ballots for Pension Board Trustee for Active Officers and Pension Board Trustee for Retired Officer were counted today and the results are in.
Active Trustee - 11,018 ballots mailed and 2,468 ballots returned = 22.4%
Michael Lappe received votes 1,671 = 67.7%
Michael Koszola received 547 votes = 22.2%
Wilson Factauzzi received 250 votes = 10.1%
Retiree Trustee - 12,629 ballots mailed and 5,845 ballots returned = 21.6%
Kenneth Hauser received 4,619 votes - 79%
Edward A. Richards received 1,226 votes - 21%
We expect our Mayor to be a simpering, pandering, lying politician. It is a disappointment that our Superintendent is just as bad. We are used to it by now. he has been a disappointment since he checked in. Nothing will change as long as he's here.
It's nothing more than lowering of standards, again, to a level so low, that the behavior of one demographic appears to fit into society.
I suppose removing all standards of behavior, police only being there to give lost tourists directions, would make everyone happy.
Except for the people that have to live there.
For generation after generation, standards of living, socially acceptable behavior, everything went up, until sometime after the 1960's. What happened then?
Fifty years later more Americans have a higher opinion of Putin, than their own president.
The tail is shaking the dog.
We need to redefine crime, what a lot of crap.
J.J.
Anonymous said...
probably don't need Detectives anymore, since their primary role IS to put people in jail.
10/22/2015 07:59:00 AM
Now it's done by computer but their main job used to be using big fat rubber stamps...
>UNFOUNDED<
>CLEARED EXCEPTIONAL<
>VICTIM REFUSES TO PROSECUTE<
Well the court doesn't do anything to drug offenses anyway so there's not much of a reason to make the arrests. The court is the only deterrent to crime. Otherwise the police are just a brief inconvenience.
Feds(FBI)report indicates Rahm is a liar?
Fetal cops running rampant in their liberal use of violence?
New FBI Report Debunks Mythical "War On Police"
Throughout the United States, Americans believe there is a “war on police.” A recent survey found 58% of Americans agree with this sentiment. A new, privately-funded billboard campaign hijacks the “Black Lives Matter” moniker to read “Blue Lives Matter,” highlighting powerful pushback from law enforcement sympathizers against activists. A deeper examination of the FBI's 2014 data, however, reveals that police are not only safe, but still running rampant in their liberal use of violence against the citizens they allegedly serve.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-22/new-fbi-report-debunks-mythical-war-police
Of mice or men?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OY...can anyone confirm or deny that IAD took a sergeant and 2 PO's out of Homan Square recently, in handcuffs?
10/22/2015 06:28:00 AM
CONFIRMED! They are charging them with theft for "ducking" early! 022 coming next!
We have some very soft bosses at CPD. McCarthy is a joke!
Drugs are what fuels all of this violence. We need a President that supports law enforcement. Democrats are nothing but communists. Time to get rid of all them.
Anonymous said...
We need a "Devil's Island" style of prison. We just dump the hardened criminals there and they fend for themselves. Why I'd even say use that one Hawaiian island that used to house leapers.
Like bogey land from Loral and hardy!
Let's go after the numbers rather then the criminals,change the rules of the game and it will look good for everyone.
"Soft Judges make Hard Criminals!"
"...For generation after generation, standards of living, socially acceptable behavior, everything went up, until sometime after the 1960's. What happened then?
Fifty years later more Americans have a higher opinion of Putin, than their own president.
The tail is shaking the dog. .."
LBJ's "Great Society" happened and all that followed it. The sense of entitlement to free everything from cradle to grave with no work is what happened. I remember as a kid in school back then in social studies there was the idea that there would be people who would be paid to do nothing but consume the products of our factories. Ridiculous everyone thought but I said what do you think welfare is. People learned to vote for a living and for anyone crooked who would keep the government bennies flowing. Unfortunately for the rest of us those factories are now mostly in China.
About Putin, it seems he has amassed one of the worlds greatest personal fortunes as a "Communist" politician while the rest of the country is struggling. He probably gave lessons to the Daleys and Rahm on Government for Fun and Profit.
El Chapo is winning and he is going to continue to win. Look at the "war on drugs" and "El Chapo" as two competing business. Which one has a more money and is actually structured and ran like a business. Politicians and government employees can't run a business - look at Cook County.
Federal sentences were harsher for crack than for powder cocaine.
---RACIST---- the liberals claimed!!!!!
These sentence guidelines were endorsed (if not authored by) the Congressional Black Caucus.
Google it.
Is the Criminal-Justice System Racist?
http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_2_criminal_justice_system.html
Outstanding article containing 'inconvenient' facts.
We need a "Devil's Island" style of prison. We just dump the hardened criminals there and they fend for themselves. Why I'd even say use that one Hawaiian island that used to house leapers.
10/22/2015 03:44:00 PM
Exactly, the island with the big waterfall. Have them test old parachutes from WW2 with a leap over the falls.
Drugs are what fuels all of this violence. We need a President that supports law enforcement. Democrats are nothing but communists. Time to get rid of all them.
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You're a Chicago Policeman and you believe drugs fuel violence? Really? Most homicides and shooting have zero to do with drugs. It's pookie shooting pookie for pretty much no reason whatsoever. You think these shootings happen because Pookie stole someone's drug 'turf?' Not very often, no. Drug areas have higher rates of violence, that's for sure. But that's due to the scumbags that live in those areas. That's due to dude 'disrespecting' dude, so they shoot each other. If the Mexican drug cartels control 90% of the drugs where are all the Mexican shooters? You say they put the blacks in charge an they commit the violence? Ok, so what percentage of Chicago's 400 per year are drug murders? What 10%? Ask any detective, very few are drug rips, or drug turf wars. They are gang shootings not arising over drug feuds. Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. The liberals say the drug laws cause violence, but you're a policeman and you can't look at the facts firsthand? Bizarre.
Last night's shooting " victim" was arrested in June, THIS JUNE, with a uuw as a convicted felon.... ( Lavergne / Augusta) here is the story....here is the problem... Incompetent system not interested in acknowledging there are animals amongst us...
Money is also laundered through car washes and mom and pop fast food joints. The largest LiNK fraud launderers are the corner Muslim grocery stores found nearly on each corner in the ghetto. fact.
OY...can anyone confirm or deny that IAD took a sergeant and 2 PO's out of Homan Square recently, in handcuffs?
10/22/2015 06:28:00 AM
You know this isn't true. That place is a black site. Over 7000 arrestees have simply disappeared there. Once arrested, nobody ever leaves....ever.
"Rethink what constitutes crime" Now there is an interesting statement, too much crime tinker with the laws after all if looting and arson are not a crime no need to have the police standing around giving them room. However if they mean some poor schmuck no longer spends thirty years in jail for one seven up inflated rock(gross exaggeration here) I'm all for it
09:27pm. Amen, brother!
The problem specifically in Illinois is that by saying you don't want to keep people with drug possession charges locked up, you're going to be releasing the crackheads AND THE DEALERS. Most guys that we KNOW are selling usually only get charged with possession even if they get caught with 20 bags on them. You have to get caught in a buy bust or be doing surveillance to get lucky enough to get delivery charges and the dope boys. Alot of other states have laws that if you re in possession of more than a specific amount or number of bags, you automatically get charged with delivery.
8:46am....hey goofball how do you think the gangs are able to buy guns and run their blocks...the lottery? You must also not watch the many videos these idiots post of themselves on the block flashing their money, dope and guns. Of course drugs are a big part of the equation. Go move back to Highland Park and leave the policing to us.
Agree that drug dealing is no longer the main reason there are so many shootings in Chicago. It used to be, but now shooting someone is a rite of manhood. They want to prove themselves to be the baddest toughest dude of the streets. You have to remember, the structured gang hierarchy in Chicago is gone. Therefore the fighting over gang turf is gone. At least for now...maybe one day history will repeat itself. But for now, the bad guys changed up, so the police need to change up.
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8:46am....hey goofball how do you think the gangs are able to buy guns and run their blocks...the lottery? You must also not watch the many videos these idiots post of themselves on the block flashing their money, dope and guns. Of course drugs are a big part of the equation. Go move back to Highland Park and leave the policing to us.
10/23/2015 03:29:00 PM
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You're confusing two different things:
#1 drug causing violence and
#2 drug sales giving gangs the ability to buy guns
Ya, those $100 guns are tough to get.
ya, gangs sell drugs. That is not disputed. We get it. We saw the you tube videos. Drugs make $, but drugs don't cause violence in Chicago. I'd hazard to guess the drug sellers want to stay away from violence.
Maybe you should apply to that Connecticut police dept. that wouldn't hire the one cop because he was too smart.
You'd probably be the Chief by now.
Many University studies going back a few years indicate that most shootings in the inner city are not about drug wars, but the common way to settle local disputes. There is an informal justice system alive and well in the black and Spanish areas and just about every insult, slight, argument is settled by someone getting cut, battered or shot. The university egg heads not back up the police in their assessment.
You're a Chicago Policeman and you believe drugs fuel violence? Really? Most homicides and shooting have zero to do with drugs. It's pookie shooting pookie for pretty much no reason whatsoever. You think these shootings happen because Pookie stole someone's drug 'turf?' Not very often, no. Drug areas have higher rates of violence, that's for sure. But that's due to the scumbags that live in those areas. That's due to dude 'disrespecting' dude, so they shoot each other. If the Mexican drug cartels control 90% of the drugs where are all the Mexican shooters? You say they put the blacks in charge an they commit the violence? Ok, so what percentage of Chicago's 400 per year are drug murders? What 10%? Ask any detective, very few are drug rips, or drug turf wars. They are gang shootings not arising over drug feuds. Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. The liberals say the drug laws cause violence, but you're a policeman and you can't look at the facts firsthand? Bizarre.
10/23/2015 08:46:00 AM
You forgot the high percentage of people who are under the influence of drugs when they commit violent crimes. Drugs fuel violent behavior and that is a FACT.
"ya, gangs sell drugs. That is not disputed. We get it. We saw the you tube videos."
10/24/2015 09:19:00 AM
You got a lot of experience there.
"Drugs make $, but drugs don't cause violence in Chicago. I'd hazard to guess the drug sellers want to stay away from violence."
Sit with your videos and guess about things and go away.
Fucking war on drugs blows. It makes it just that much harder to get a bottle of Vicodin. My left shoulder hurts like hell and the arthritis in my right hand after a day on the motorcycle aches like hell. War on drugs my fucking ass. Go after heroin, leave Vicodin and drug store stuff alone.
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