Snow Money!
Somehow, we just know what areas of the city will be targeted with this one:
- It will cost more to be lazy this winter.
A City Council committee on Monday hiked the top fine for failing to shovel your sidewalk to $500 — a tool city officials said would be used against repeat offenders.
City officials clarified language on snow removal, but in doing so it also hiked the fines and set strict times to have sidewalks shoveled.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:11 AM
80 Comments:
Assholes won't plow my street for days after snowfall But they'll be out in force to fine me for not shoveling the sidewalk? Un Fucking Real....
Like s__t. The block-long sidewalks running alongside many big chain businesses will be like Mount Everest, while their parking lots are perfect. Same with many large, vacant buildings with "FOR LEASE, ABC REALTY, 312-000-0000" signs right on the front.
Aim this gun real low and bother elderly homeowners on side streets instead.
So when I shovel out the parking spaces in front of my house, will I get a rebate from the city?!?! I'm gonna charge Rahm by the flake.
You've got to be fucking kidding me. Another way to fuck the owners and responsible people. If it snows at night and I have to work in am I'm supposed to go into work late or miss work to shovel snow? The politicians are out of their fucking minds. I can't move soon enough.
Shovel it right into your trashcans. You're going to be paying an extra $9 anyway....
So all the vacant property on th west and southsides are gonna be hammered with anovs....yeah right...
We ain't gots no monies for shovels and we needs training!
Let's see them tag Dindu Nuffins and Loopy McSpliff.
Hmmmm.... I remember areas of 005, where my shit box squad got stuff in my the snow, and I had to walk in high snow to get to a domestic... I wonder if our neighbors of in 005 are gonna be getting hit up for 5 "c" notes with this one
I had a job where I often had to leave by 0530, so I was usually the first out cleaning the snow. After I blew out my drive, I'd usually do the sidewalk for my side of the street, one pass up and one back got most of it in about 10-15 minutes.
One of the neighbors complained about the noise. Blink you and I just did mine.
Chitcago is just the friendliest town for homeowners!
If I can't shovel snow into the street, then where the hell am I supposed to shovel it?
Make sure it is equally enforced.
Fuck him !
No snow in Florida and no income tax on your pension !
Are the sidewalks public property or private? Will the city provide me with a shovel? Someone needs to take this to court.
And who writes these tickets?
Well, if residents are expected to adhere to the 10pm/10 am rule, I'll expect the same from the city, right? Oh, that's only if I live of Fast Eddie's block...
They just announced that if your house is valued at under $250k you don't have to shovel the snow. However you can use your free cell phone to call a contractor that will accept the Link card for payment. The city does not want to put a burden on the already over taxed areas of the city.
More good news!
So I guess those who go out of town before a snow storm are screwed? Are they going to go after those abandoned buildings with uncleared walks too?
I wonder who will get the fines at all the abandoned buildings? Some of those buildings have not even been paying their taxes for years.
Revenue will be so busy in Englehood and Austin to ever get to Mt. Greenwood. Lol
Who's gonna enforce this crap? I won't.
What am I supposed to do with this stuff, melt it in my bathtub?
Just got a note from Joe Berrios - guess who's property is now miraculously worth (get ready for it) more than $250,000...........a spectacular rise of $55,000. Anyone else get one of these? This will handle that rebate thing.
Laughable, I'm a firefighter and in the winter we literally quiclky shovel paths between front porches and the ambulances to get the patients to them in the "poor" neighborhoods. In fact for months during the winter the residents don't even bother walking on the sidewalks and use the streets to walk on exclusively.
So what neighborhoods will be targeted?
People (folks) who shovel their snow into the street are jagoffs.
So we stand to make millions from this right? Because the west and south sides rarely have steps or a sidewalk that is more than a set of followed footprints packed down to form ice from a heavy snow. Call it what you will, laziness, it ain't my house syndrome,who knows, but the snow just doesn't get shoveled there. Vote on the number of fines that will come from there? I bet 0. Vote on the number of fines that will come from 16, 19, 22, and 8? Probably a lot. The city that works. What a joke.
Live in the south and you seldom have to put up with the crazy and awful stuff.
Where's the cut out for "homes valued less than $200,000 are exempt" bullshit? You know it's in there. Fucking ghetto blight
Exemptions to this ordinance include those who currently receive S.S.I. benefits or other forms of public assistance, owners of properties which have an equalized assessed value under 250 thousand dollars, government facilities, churches and social service agencies who receive are wholly or partially publically financed.
I would love to take two dump truck's worth of snow and dump one on Rahm's front porch and one at the back door. It would be funny to see him shaking his wee l'il fists in the windows, cussing up a storm, stuck inside.
What about our streets that are not plowed , is there a tax rebate .
Do you people really think that they will deploy people to write these businesses tickets. Come on now, this is Chicago, the city of pure LAZINESS. they have these traffic aides, fat lazy dog asses that hide in Mcdonalds all day, next you have the ticket writers who just target BULLSHIT tickets. The Dept. of Revenue has to hire some retired guys that will come back and do this job and the revenue they generate will more then pay for them. Next why not use the SWAP people to clean up the snow. Fuck Them, they can't clean snow off of vacant lots in the winter.
How can the city force you to shovel their property and then let you on the hook for the lawsuit if someone falls on the sidewalk you just shoveled? I don't own the sidewalk, let rahm shovel the snow.
well ssc I live up in Edison park and I shovel mine n an elderly neighbors when it snows but I bet if im late (work court) im sure they will be targeting the good hard working people of the 41st ward im sure they wont bother the 11th or 19th wards
(OT) all the shooting on our highways road rage gang cowards in Albuquerque a 4 year old killed in road rage incident the Wild West wonder when the shootings here will result in more murders? But then again on the highway doesn't count in pathetic Chicago killing shooting ratios!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/21/four-year-old-girl-killed-in-road-rage-shooting-on-new-mexico-freeway/
Rahm's detail better get their shovels ready.
I certainly hope any po-lice and 'bambalances that have to go thru snow to get to a call make the call to 311 and report the address. Be sure to ask the call taker for the tracking number so you can check on the status of your complaint and be sure it has actually been entered into the 311 system.
"......It also calls for snow that falls during the day to be cleared by 10 p.m., and for snow that falls overnight to be cleared by 10 a.m........"
8-32-140(a) No person shall use or cause the use of any mechanical equipment or tool operated by fuel or electric power in building, construction, repair or demolition operations between the hours of 8:00 P.M. and 8:00 A.M. within 600 feet of any residential building or hospital.
So I guess to have my snow cleared by 10AM, I can't start before 8AM, and I start work at 5AM. Exactly HOW is this supposed to work????? Maybe an alderman who monitors this site can chime in.
city of chicago should make these single males on welfare and baby daddies , illegal immigrants earn their free telephones , food , health , housing , wifi , education and shovel snow throughout the city .
anyone else tired of working two jobs to pay for all the benefits to ILLEGALS in our Sanctuary city , buying pampers and formula for the baby mama and baby daddy meal ticket children .
want to eat , go do some work
Revenue will be so busy in Englehood and Austin to ever get to Mt. Greenwood. Lol
10/21/2015 07:27:00 AM
Don't be stupid. Finance staff can't write ANOV's.
And in all honesty, despite the fact that some are actually decent people, would you want that Guy on a Bike from Finance rolling around with an ANOV book in addition to the Parkers and Compliance vehicle tickets he can write? Been seeing him in 001 all week, and dude is hammering everything that isn't nailed down in the CBD.
Every job you handle this winter, if you had to climb Mt. Everest to get to the door, handle the job, then whack them with an anov for the snow pile.
I see it every year, morons shoveling or snow blowing snow onto the plowed and salted streets. Like the street is going to melt it away. People, lets get something straight, snow should be shoveled or blown onto the parkway or your property. Technically all snow that falls on private property, should be cleared and piled on private property. If you are so energetic that you also clear a parking spot on the street, do not pile the snow on the street in front and to the rear of your auto. That snow should be piled on the parkway. By the way, the definition of parkway is the strip of land between the public sidewalk and the street. If you have a driveway that cuts across the sidewalk, do not pile the snow on either side of it on the sidewalk. If you own a corner lot, you are responsible for the sidewalk all the way around it. Finally, clear the entire walkway not just a shovel width. Sidewalks are 5 feet wide to allow pedestrians to pass each other in each direction. Since we are going to have shovelers now who probably have never shoveled in their entire lives, I just wanted to list some basic guide lines. To all of you that clear the snow properly and diligently, I thank you. I will sit back and wait for all the negative comments from lazy asses now.
Reported a big auto-parts chain a winter or so ago, using 311 online form.
Nothing happened. Mess left until spring. Big supermarket chain, the same.
Same thing in front of big vacant buildings with real-estate-company contact names, addresses, phone numbers clearly posted.
Nothing happened.
News radio today said approx. 260 tickets issued last winter, "most to large commercial and residential buildings." Jeez, could have been 2600 tickets if revenooers were on the ball. Don't want to rattle machers, movers/shakers, A-list campaign contributors, huh?
But, hey, cut the waste and fraud and do-nothing positions and no-bid $14.00/gallon bleach and welfare giveaways to the Pritzkers, RedLoon Theater, etc., and maybe the city would not be so desperate for money all the time.
Now the city is building a giant dog bathroom at O'Hare. Will it be "gender-neutral?"
Priorities...
"Exemptions to this ordinance include those who currently receive S.S.I. benefits or other forms of public assistance, owners of properties which have an equalized assessed value under 250 thousand dollars, government facilities, churches and social service agencies who receive are wholly or partially publically financed."
10/21/2015 09:16:00 AM
Anything is believable in this town. If you're kidding, I understand. Much weirder stuff happens every day, for real.
But seriously? If so, got a reference? I looked on COC web site today, nothing.
Help light up the scene here so we get a better idea.
The Liberal-Progressive/Nanny-statist bullishit spilling out the window
at City Hall is eye watering.
So Rahm admits he's going to target working neighborhoods with this?
Meanwhile... His Revenue'ers won't be dispatched to areas with
a catered-to demographic that walks in the middle of the street because
sidewalks go unshoveled the entire winter season?
Let's be real here...
And of course, the city is on the hook for nothing as they get to pick and choose
when they plow side streets after a major snowfall and they're going
to dispatch teams of Revenue'ers to tag working people who live on those
unplowed side streets?
Talk about a piss-poor return on the taxpayer dollar.
Not to mention the very real possibility of this getting kinda bloody
with the intentional targeting of working people.
Rahm is a financial and policy incompetent whose savvy centers
on misappropriation, thievery and knowledge of manipulating
protective and regulatory laws and odinances proscribing his
thievery and misappropriation while compelling a complicit
media to busily look the other way from the outrages he commits.
Plus they're looking to ding people for tossing snow into the streets?
"Yah... Just pile it in yer front and back yards. It'll be fine."
Is there no one familiar with the power of freeze/thaw?
It can crack/heave masonry and other such...
The cornerstones of Liberalism, Progressivism and Nanny-Statism?
"We need more laws by which to extract more money from the proletariat
and give to our favored demographic in order to keep our favored demographic
loyal as a firewall against the proletariat ever gaining a solid enough footing
to check our power via the ballot box... Hopefully by the time they catch on,
we will have rendered them into a powerless, squabbling rabble that exists
only as a revenue source for us."
Or something like that?
"One of the neighbors complained about the noise. Blink you and I just did mine."
10/21/2015 01:24:00 AM
I know. I was out working on it in a blizzard w/30 MPH wind, can't even see with the sweat and snow on my glasses, and professional for-life meathead next door had waited for this all day, comes out yelling some of "my snow" blew his way. Not like I wouldn't have cleared it off in a few minutes.
...so I started doing EVERYONE ELSE'S BUT his.
Some people work really hard at being hated. Go through life with both fists balled, looking for something to be outraged at. Fine with me.
Endlessly noisy useless obese dogs over there finally died natural causes, then a divorce, then whole bunch faded into sunset.
Sometimes it works out. Rest of the block gets stronger, everyone at least says "Hi" to each other, chats, exchanges a bottle a booze or a nice box of chocolates at Christmas...
"Silly, silly, silly," like da last Mare said. Don't let 'em get you down.
Anonymous said...
"Do you really think that they will deploy people to write these
businesses tickets..."
10/21/2015 09:40:00 AM
Why yes...
Yes we do.
Businesses AND residences.
Rahm is all in and betting that
everyone will just bend over and
take this latest series of moon-shots
while he's shoveling every spare
dollar to his supporters and contributors
in hope that it will be enough to insulate
him from post elected office harm...
Same as with 42 Extra-Short...
No real fear of any-investigative-body
rifling the mayoral panty drawer and displaying
the contents "sunny-side-up" for all to see and
render judgement.
You Coppers had better hold still and tremble
as you're being pimp-slapped and slow-walked backwards with
a hard wrist-crank...
So where can we report addresses who do not shovel their snow?
I'll gladly make note of all the addresses with treacherous, un-shoveled sidewalks which endanger all who pass ..... as I stroll along in Englewood and Pilsen. I'd like to make sure that the City takes action against those who are too lazy to shovel. Especially where our fine law enforcement officers have to engage in foot chases while trying to impact the tidal wave of violence .
expecpt if you live in the 11th or 19th wards no fines
For as much taxes that we pay in this crooked, thieving city.
The city should just get a mini-plow and plow the whole damn sidewalks just like in the suburbs.
The city threats don't apply to the non-tax paying mutts!
While working VRI last winter, I have seen blocks not shoveled and everybody walking in the streets!
To my knowledge, I don't ever recall anyone in the ghetto hoods getting a ticket for not shoveling their sidewalks!
But the city chooses to attack the honest working folks and hit them hard with fines!
This is why this city is in the toilet and the laughing stock of this crooked state led by bozos like the Mayor and Part-time Alderman!
Whats areas will be targeted? Would it be same areas targeted for parking violations? the areas with weak aldermen that are silent! Like the 23rd, west end of 14th,and 13th wards? Would it be west end of north-side areas? OK I will say it, is it as usual the "white taxpaying" areas targeted yet again? Of course you would never target the link card holding, illegal sanctuary areas, your to scared as they will "protest" and you will have city workers shovel their snow correct rahm and the silent 50?? Just retired was planning to live here for awhile, but guess what just started a search on Zillow for another place to live maybe in this corrupt state but no more in this corrupt blood stained city run by elected who don't care about anything but protecting their own fiefdoms!!
The silent majority are getting tired real tired from anti-police bias, to throwing billions maybe trillions in our tax money away on your friends, illegals, etc. Wonder why Trump and Carson are running away with the presidency polls? "a fish stinks from the head down" the old saying, so starting at the top we will get with Trump and Carson "real change we can finally believe in, making America great again!"
so you say fuck you and don't pay the fine. what they gonna do? boot your door?
How much has the City collected so far on that Cannabis ANOV program?
Where does the mayor think he can collect the most money for not shoveling?
(Hint: Where are homes valued at over $250,000?)
Thousands of able-bodied misdirected youth pass thru the halls of 26th & Cal everyday,
then leave afterwards without a care in the world. No penalty and no restitution.
Load them up on buses on those snow days and make them shovel the alleys and sideways where they've committed their misdeeds.
I just can't wait to leave this job and Shitcago for good!
FUCK this city and their thieving ways!
..........Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Anonymous said...
So all the vacant property on th west and southsides are gonna be hammered with anovs....yeah right...
What are anovs? Never heard that term here in the Philly area (so glad to be home!).
Another reason for more people to move.
I'm moving to Florida fuck this city and fuck Illinois!
Fine... fine... everywhere a fine... (sung to the tune of Signs, Signs, Everywhere a Sign...)
Compulsory labor without compensation is against the law, a violation of the 13th Amendment.
The city neither provides a shovel, nor funds to the homeowner to hire someone to shovel the snow, nor compensate the homeowner monetarily for shoveling the snow; but expects the homeowner to shovel or be punished for not clearing a public way. What's next, homeowners and business owners will be required to clear snow on the street or be subject to a fine.
Anonymous stash the polski guy said...
so you say fuck you and don't pay the fine. what they gonna do? boot your door?
10/21/2015 06:57:00 PM
Got a ticket for grass too tall about ten years ago. Since the ticket arrived in the mail months after it supposedly happened, we ignored it.
Last year, when we went to sell the property, there was a City lien on it, for double the original fine plus additional penalties.
Over in the 41st Ward, revenue came over and wrote a load of tickets for vehicles parking up on the curb on the narrow streets. This was payback for Naps telling raccoon eyes to Fuck off, he was voting no on the tax increases.I give him credit for standing up to that asshole.
boot your door......no, they will put a lien on your property.
That's crazy. $500? Wow. What's the regular guy supposed to do with that?
$50 ain't enough?
What if we shovel our snow onto Rahm's property? Is that against the law?
I have lived here all my life. Never has this been a big problem. Now it's a $500 fine?
This is total bullshit! If this is so important to the asshole mayor, how come the City never plowed the sidewalks here like they do in many suburbs? Hell, the City rarely- if ever- plows my side street- and it's THEIR SIDEWALK!!! If I plow their sidewalk, and someone slips and falls, I can be sued! So fuck no, I won't do it. And you shouldn't either. And none of us should write these tickets. It's just another tax on the fucked-over residents of this fucked up City.
Blogger kateykakes said...
Anonymous said...
So all the vacant property on th west and southsides are gonna be hammered with anovs....yeah right...
What are anovs? Never heard that term here in the Philly area (so glad to be home!).
10/21/2015 08:17:00 PM
Administrative Notice of Violation
Anonymous said...
I see it every year, morons shoveling or snow blowing snow onto the plowed and salted streets. Like the street is going to melt it away. People, lets get something straight, snow should be shoveled or blown onto the parkway or your property. Technically all snow that falls on private property, should be cleared and piled on private property. If you are so energetic that you also clear a parking spot on the street, do not pile the snow on the street in front and to the rear of your auto. That snow should be piled on the parkway. By the way, the definition of parkway is the strip of land between the public sidewalk and the street. If you have a driveway that cuts across the sidewalk, do not pile the snow on either side of it on the sidewalk. If you own a corner lot, you are responsible for the sidewalk all the way around it. Finally, clear the entire walkway not just a shovel width. Sidewalks are 5 feet wide to allow pedestrians to pass each other in each direction. Since we are going to have shovelers now who probably have never shoveled in their entire lives, I just wanted to list some basic guide lines. To all of you that clear the snow properly and diligently, I thank you. I will sit back and wait for all the negative comments from lazy asses now.
10/21/2015 04:09:00 PM
Sound like this was written by Ed Burke!
Allright asshole, if that parkway that you say is private property is mine then that must mean I can cut down that tree that is lifting the public sidewalk with its roots and hitting my private property home with its branches. It isn't like Streets and San is going to come and trim it (waiting two years now). And since you say it is a public sidewalk and a public street then fuck you, clean it yourself!
I detest driving on Chicago's congested and rutted streets--but especially so in winter. I take the CTA to Traffic Court often and am never surprised that the owners of River North and Loop property that operate parking garages are certain to clear their own money-making property but rarely shovel the sidewalks that adjoin them. This leaves me and other pedestrians to slip and slop through the ice and snow they fail to clear. Call 311 to report it? Yeah, like any Ward Superintendent is coming out to write a ticket...
The city trotted out this same lame propaganda last year ahead of winter, plainly saying increased enforcement of the shoveling ordinance would be used for safety and revenue purposes. Yet I seem the saw residential and commercial properties continue to not clear the snow. While they could certainly not be deterred by the fines, methinks the citation just continue to not get written in the first place. This ordinance is rarely enforced.
Load them up on buses on those snow days and make them shovel the alleys and sideways where they've committed their misdeeds.
10/21/2015 07:09:00 PM
Hey!! Fuck you!! I don't want these shitheads in MY neighborhood...........I'll shovel my own snow.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Over in the 41st Ward, revenue came over and wrote a load of tickets for vehicles parking up on the curb on the narrow streets. This was payback for Naps telling raccoon eyes to Fuck off, he was voting no on the tax increases.I give him credit for standing up to that asshole.
From That Guy on a Bike:
Firstly, there is No Department of Revenue for the City of Chicago anymore, FFS. We were merged with the Dept of Finamce a few 2/3 years ago. The city is too cheap to re-paint all the Revenue marked vehicles with Finance.
Secondly, just out of curiosity, why do you believe that PEA's are the Mayors jack-booted thugs? While I freely admit we do respond to requests for service or requests for no enforcement in certain areas or on certain dates for this or that reason, we do Not Hit a Specific area to Send a Message Unless it is from a District or Specific Ward Office. For example, during the Chicago playoffs home games we kept our people Out of the area around Wrigleyville by request of the 44th Ward. Or we have a request in from 41st Ward to Not enforce Parkway violations in a select area of Oriole between Touhy and Pratt as I recall.
We do not target in retaliation Period!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I see it every year, morons shoveling or snow blowing snow onto the plowed and salted streets. Like the street is going to melt it away. People, lets get something straight, snow should be shoveled or blown onto the parkway or your property. Technically all snow that falls on private property, should be cleared and piled on private property. If you are so energetic that you also clear a parking spot on the street, do not pile the snow on the street in front and to the rear of your auto. That snow should be piled on the parkway. By the way, the definition of parkway is the strip of land between the public sidewalk and the street. If you have a driveway that cuts across the sidewalk, do not pile the snow on either side of it on the sidewalk. If you own a corner lot, you are responsible for the sidewalk all the way around it. Finally, clear the entire walkway not just a shovel width. Sidewalks are 5 feet wide to allow pedestrians to pass each other in each direction. Since we are going to have shovelers now who probably have never shoveled in their entire lives, I just wanted to list some basic guide lines. To all of you that clear the snow properly and diligently, I thank you. I will sit back and wait for all the negative comments from lazy asses now.
Well, moron, I'm a lazy ass who lives in an area where the sidewalk abuts the street (no parkway). I clear the five foot wide sidewalk putting the snow on my lawn. Then, the city plow comes by and throws the snow from the street onto my formerly clean sidewalk. What, oh great indignant intellect, would you do in this case?
And another Aside for me, SCC..
I am scheduled to be in and will be in the 41st Ward all next week. I will be doing the Street cleaning in the areas around :
Monday/Tues: Oriole to Canfield/ Devon to Peterson (Grid 8)
Wed/Thurs: Harlem to Oriole/Devon to Everell (Grid 9)
Friday:Oriole/Canfield/Redwood :: Peterson to Bryn Mawr (Grid 10)
I will be in Wards 41, 45, 39 and 50 the week of the 2nd.
Be nice, and don't make it easy for me guys...I'm writing everything if I don't have vehicles for street cleaning...even Wrong Direction on a non Cul De Sac streets.
Starting next Year, I will no longer be giving warnings on where I might be located at. For that matter...I might be unit 50 or 499 next year.
Have a safe Halloween...And I do accept candy and hot cider if anyone is in the friendly mood. :)
Administrative Notice of Violation
10/22/2015 08:50:00 AM
Thank you, Anonymous.
I'll shovel my walks, how about the city cut and maintain the grass from the sidewalk to the street, I've been maintaining their grass for years
I'm just glad you are still around kateykakes. The back country didn't work out so well, did it? Glad to hear you are back in Philly!
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