Saturday, November 21, 2015

Slum Times Smears ISP

  • William O’Neil sat at the back of traffic court in Joliet on Thursday, glaring at the Illinois State Police trooper who wrote his son a $1,500 ticket for speeding.

    On Sept. 27, O’Neil was suffering from his second heart attack in four years. His son was racing him from their home in Lemont to a hospital in Downers Grove when the trooper pulled them over. O’Neil still can’t understand why the trooper didn’t let them keep driving to Good Samaritan Hospital, where he was previously treated.
Um, because you were speeding? Doing 82 in a 55?
  • Instead, the trooper called an ambulance that took O’Neil to another hospital. A video obtained by the Chicago Sun-Times shows the trooper repeatedly suggested that O’Neil was faking a heart attack.
Because no one has ever told a cop a teeny-tiny-little-lie to get out of a ticket, right? And the trooper called an ambulance? For someone claiming medical distress? God forbid!
  • After the ambulance left, the trooper handed O’Neil’s son the ticket and told him to slow down. “I’m still angry,” O’Neil said after a hearing for his son, Michael O’Neil, in the Will County courthouse. In a deal that Michael O’Neil made with the prosecutor, his fine was reduced from $1,500 to $175 for driving 82 mph in a 55 mph speed zone. That gave his father some relief.

    “Common sense prevailed with the justice system,” William O’Neil said. “But the state police did not address that fact that this trooper’s attitude was terrible.”
Yeah, protecting everyone else from someone doing nearly 30 MPH over the limit - who does that trooper think he is? Enforcing the laws passed by the State of Illinois. The nerve!
  • Even though O’Neil remains outraged about the traffic stop on Interstate 355, the state police have said the trooper did nothing wrong. Troopers are discouraged from escorting civilian vehicles in medical emergencies. People in O’Neil’s situation are encouraged to call 911, according to the state police. The trooper was correct to call for an ambulance, a state police spokesman said. And the standard practice is for fire and emergency services to take a patient to the nearest hospital.
Dear god, when does it end for these poor put-upon people?
  • The Sun-Times obtained a video of the traffic stop through a public records request. There was a dashboard camera in the trooper’s car, and he wore a microphone.

    [...] William O’Neil, sitting in the passenger seat, apparently tells the trooper he’s having a heart attack, although what he says is inaudible. The trooper immediately asks O’Neil if he wants an ambulance.

    “No, no, we’re just going to Good Samaritan,” O’Neil says, adding, “I mean, we can get there much faster than an ambulance.” A few minutes later, the trooper asks, “Why didn’t you guys just go to Silver Cross?” That hospital in New Lenox is closer to O’Neil’s home than Good Samaritan. “I’m a patient at Good Samaritan,” O’Neil responds. The trooper calls for an ambulance, saying, “One of the passengers is having chest pain.”

    O’Neil asks whether his son is going to receive a ticket and the trooper says, “Yeah, he was going 82 in a 55.” “I can’t believe you’re giving him a ticket for this!” O’Neil says. About five minutes after the stop, O’Neil gets out of the car, slowly pacing. “You want to stay somewhere, you know, if you fall over?” the trooper says and asks O’Neil to stand behind his Buick. A minute later, the trooper says, “You don’t look like you’re having a heart attack to me.”
Damn, why didn't the trooper rely on his extensive medical training? Everyone KNOWS that people having heart attacks get out of cars, wander around the highway, spout off about cops doing their jobs, wave their arms around etc. It's obvious to us even now that the trooper was probably trying to deliberately kill this man, not allowing his son to fly through traffic at speeds an ambulance couldn't hope to reach, endangering everyone he nearly made contact with, swerving, weaving. Didn't the trooper discover that sonny boy had a cardiac defibrillator installed in the center console? Dear old Dad was probably about to shock himself when the trooper stopped them.
  • William O’Neil was treated for his heart attack and underwent surgery the next day. He received a stent to fix a blockage in an artery, hospital records show. On Thursday, the 60-year-old purchasing manager said he’s feeling much better.

    “But I’d still like to know where his head was,” he said of the trooper.
Protecting people from your self-absorbed, "I'm the only one who matters," ignorant ass.

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66 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey! Michael O’Neil! you are an ignorant assh@le. If my dad, or anybody for that matter, thinks they are having a heart attack, I'm calling for an ambulance you dumb, stupid dipshit.

11/21/2015 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous 11th Dist King said...

Excuse me sir your doing 50 dollars over the speed limit. LMAO

11/21/2015 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got to side with the heart attack victim on this one. The Officer sound like a dick to me, but what do I know, only been on the job for 23 years.

11/21/2015 01:26:00 AM  
Blogger bobby said...

You have such a thing as a $1500 speeding ticket?!

Effing vampires.

11/21/2015 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Fred Sanford routine backfired on O'Neil. Whenever someone gives an excuse for why they were speeding always try to show more concern about the problem than they want.

11/21/2015 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The way SCC tells it, this story is better and more fun than gut shooting carp.

11/21/2015 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You go SCC!!! Mmmm Hmmm!!!

11/21/2015 03:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not sure why this makes the news. But if a family member of mine needs immediate medical care and I have no choice but to drive to hospital I'm hauling ass as well. And if I were to be pulled over I wouldn't be very happy if I was given a ticket once it was determined that reason for speeding was legit. If I'm the father in this situation , I totally understand his anger. Again ,this story shouldn't even be written .

11/21/2015 05:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The speed limit on I-355 should be 70MPH and if that were the case, he would have been doing 12 over the limit. So the reduction in the fine was appropriate in my view. The tollway authority needs to get in the game and raise the speed limit to 70. The dominant speed under normal conditions on I-355 is 73mph anyway.

11/21/2015 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I get where you are coming from but if my father is having a heart attack, I'm still likely to speed while driving him to the hospital. Seconds count even when ambulances are minutes away : )
Seems like a little compassion would would have went a long way in this case.

11/21/2015 06:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

82 mph on 355? What was the ticket for? Driving too slow? If you have ever driven on 355 you know that driving 82 mph is just keeping up with traffic.

11/21/2015 06:44:00 AM  
Anonymous The Neanderthal said...

OK, no BS, there was a real serious medical problem here with someone who had a history of heart problems. Defib in the car? Wow. Great idea.

You can be ambulatory even when in great pain, and communicate with people. Happened to me, but my tack was "I think I'm gonna check out here. Help."

Argumentative? OK. In great fear and emotional turmoil, topping out on the BP, etc. This s__t is no fun.

"William O’Neil was treated for his heart attack and underwent surgery the next day. He received a stent to fix a blockage in an artery, hospital records show. On Thursday, the 60-year-old purchasing manager said he’s feeling much better."

Glad the guy's going to be OK.

“But I’d still like to know where his head was,” he said of the trooper."

A. Trooper didn't want a big fatal traffic accident. They are funny that way.

B. Trooper was trying to get professional medical help for the guy.

I can see getting someone rolling -- within the speed limit, which is pretty fast -- out of a more rural area with longer trips/slower response for the ambo. Maybe call ahead and tell them you'll meet them out on the main road.

If you are in an area that has two or three-minute ambo response times, best to call 911, they are the pros and can stabilize patient right there.

Had me a trip myself yesterday. Hate to call, but..."you will know when." Thanks, guys. You're the greatest.

Stay sane on the road, and stay safe, all. God bless.

11/21/2015 06:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has this clown every stopped to consider that the only reason he's still around to complain is because the Trooper called an ambulance?

11/21/2015 06:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just saw the video. Trooper is very professional. The guy claiming to have a heart attack seems normal. If the claim about the heart attack is true the trooper should get a life saving award and a thank you from the liar.

11/21/2015 07:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Mt Greenwood Hillbilly said...

I have two examples of Health Emergency stupidity.

1. Man goes into cardiac arrest, falls off of couch and hits his head on end table. Girlfriend, more concerned about the cocaine/xanax/whatever else cocktail they had been doing, calls friend who is at the bar down the road. Eleven minutes later, he arrives, immediately calls 911. Man lives, but it's Ground Hog day every minute because he short term memory is fried.

2. Three guys are doing house rehab in unfamiliar neighborhood. New guy who is out of shape goes into cardiac arrest. His buddies carry him out to the car and drag him to a clinic for people with colds and flu. He dies.

Moral of the story. Call a fucking ambulance.

11/21/2015 07:09:00 AM  
Blogger DPR said...

82 mph on 355 is a pretty common speed. I really wish we'd just stop with the pretenses and up the speed limits on most of the highways in the area.

11/21/2015 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the way that the general public acts, 80% of the people we come across behave like this, me me me, why you bothering me when people are being killed, or my favorite, your just afraid of gang bangers, the fact of the matter is most people have to beg me for a ticket, insults or snide remarks get you one every time, my court keys are always full.

11/21/2015 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical crook county! Drop the fine to $175, from what is supposed to be imposed!

Happens every day in Cook County Traffic Court!

Fine for Red light ticket = $10 bucks: but Traffic court cost = $195.00

Why don't the media do a story on that joke of a Traffic Court system!

11/21/2015 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the guy was having an actual medical emergency. I would've told that trooper to go fuck himself. You're completely wrong on this on SCC. I've had folks try pull sob stories on me during traffic stops. I would take their DL and tell them to follow me to the hospital. If they were bullshitting then they'd get locked up. Worked every time. But I never placed a traffic violation over someone's health. The moment you start deciding who's playing sick is the time you start opening yourself up to all kinds of litigation and unnecessary headaches.

11/21/2015 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Screw you, O’Neil, the Trooper did his job. Had he let your dumb ass go on your way and you were involved in an accident because he was speeding and you and/or your kid got hurt, you would blame the trooper for letting you go. Again, SCREW YOU!

11/21/2015 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In Chicago, he could have thrown the father in his squad car, raced him to the hospital, and made sergeant out of it!

11/21/2015 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this doesn't happen everyday on a traffic stop. who knows but why take the chance with a possible medical emergency. Calling the ambulance was the right thing to do but writing the ticket i don't know? was the ticket that important to the copper . Believe me if any of us were rushing a family member to the hospital and and a copper gave us a ticket we would be screaming holy hell out there and you know it. When a family member is hurt bad sometimes we feel getting to the hospital fast is imperative. How about when one of us gets hurt and how many times do not wait for the ambulance and rush our partner to the hospital. Like i said this isn't a every day occurrence,lighten up on the kid his dad was having a real heart attack.

11/21/2015 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Troopers need to lighten up for the most part. It's like watching Revenge of the Nerds when you see a group of them together.

11/21/2015 09:48:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...

>>>>> ' “I’m still angry,” O’Neil said after a hearing for his son, Michael O’Neil, in the Will County courthouse. In a deal that Michael O’Neil made with the prosecutor, his fine was reduced from $1,500 to $175 for driving 82 mph in a 55 mph speed zone. The video shows the trooper activate his lights and stop Michael O’Neil at 10:13 p.m. on northbound I-355 south of 75th Avenue. ' <<<<<

WTF!?!? Daddy is still angry?? Well FUCK YOU!!, you asshole!! Responsible drivers should be fucking angry. Angry that your nitwit son is still allowed on the goddamn streets and highways!

Annnnnd fuck you too Sun-Times, I-355 is like the Daytona Speedway. It's bad enough during daylight hours with cars and trucks going 70 MPH in all three lanes, let alone this moron doing 82 mph at 10:00 pm at night.

What would have served these two jagoffs right was if the stop never happened and sonny hit the exist turn to East bound I-88 at 82 mph, lost control, and flipped the fucking car killing both of them!
----- that exit is deceiving, it looks like a gradual turn where you can maintain speed, but it ain't, and there's no Guard Rails in case you skid. -----

Bottom line, the Trooper & Judge did these two a huge favor. The f--king book should have been thrown at 'sonny'.

11/21/2015 09:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I retired from CPD traffic enforcement. Glad I'm gone. Leo Schmitz, we hear this shit quite often. My reply: Next time call an ambulance, asshole.

11/21/2015 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The trooper was wrong and you should admit it. This is ridiculous and embarrassing conduct that feeds into all the worst stereotypes of police not using good judgment.

11/21/2015 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not with you on this one. Of course, I was never a ticket guy and 80 something isn't that fast.

11/21/2015 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess the trooper was doing his job, but I probably wouldn't have written the son if he wasn't an asshole. We give people breaks for all types of stuff all the time. If I was driving a family member to the hospital for a legit emergency, yea, I'm gonna drive a little fast too and maybe take some lights as well.

11/21/2015 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Plain stupidity.

Give them a code 3 escort to hospital emergency and stand by while patient goes into the ER. If the "patient" is faking, throw the book at the driver.

11/21/2015 10:41:00 AM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

Leo can become Daniel's health coach.

11/21/2015 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, you are wrong on this one.

11/21/2015 10:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Paul Kearsey said...

whole thing could've been avoided if dummy son had immediately called 911 for an ambulance at dad's first sign of heart attack, instead of jumping in car...#Darwin

11/21/2015 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC couldn't disagree with you more, a solid officer would have gave them an escort to the hospital. Who gives a fuck about a speeding ticket? When I drive the Dan Ryan in a marked squad at 70mph people routinely blow right by me...ISP could have got their quota some other day.

11/21/2015 12:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And if the trooper let the idiot son continue on his 85 /mile hike and got into an accident, perhaps killing or injuring innocent parties, the trooper would be raked over the coals for allowing sonny to continue speed on. Damned if you do or damned if you don't. Scum times or fibune would be all over this on how the trooper neglected his duties. Chuckle G., the "investigative " news reporter would do his smear.

11/21/2015 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe O'Neil should have reduced his bacon intake 40 years ago.
Aid the injured or sick by calling an ambulance, which gave the trooper plenty of time to complete his citation.
That's a good use of time.
But on another note, the SunTimes Media obtained access to the video through a public records request. Hmmmm, has Rahm released the email exchanges from his correspondence with Barbara Byrd Bennett and other CPS officials yet?
Why does the Rahms Admin get to stall but easily gives up police related info/video in short order?
The War on Police continues.
No free rides anymore.

11/21/2015 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not sure why this makes the news. But if a family member of mine needs immediate medical care and I have no choice but to drive to hospital I'm hauling ass as well. And if I were to be pulled over I wouldn't be very happy if I was given a ticket once it was determined that reason for speeding was legit. If I'm the father in this situation , I totally understand his anger. Again ,this story shouldn't even be written .

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It was written to further the anti-police agenda, as SCC so eloquently demonstrated.

11/21/2015 01:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the guy was having an actual medical emergency. I would've told that trooper to go fuck himself. You're completely wrong on this on SCC. I've had folks try pull sob stories on me during traffic stops. I would take their DL and tell them to follow me to the hospital. If they were bullshitting then they'd get locked up. Worked every time. But I never placed a traffic violation over someone's health. The moment you start deciding who's playing sick is the time you start opening yourself up to all kinds of litigation and unnecessary headaches.

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And when the guy wrecks as you're escorting him, his estate will end up owning your house, your partner's house and get enough taxpayer money to send the next 5 generations to college.

Trooper did it right. He didn't decide who was being sick, he offered the only appropriate and authorized medical transport for a speedy run to the hospital to someone claiming to be in medical crisis - a person who still had the ability to exit the car, wander the highway and berate the trooper for doing his job.

11/21/2015 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then we wonder why a lot of people hate us. We have no compassion for anyone and do the job in order to keep it.not that we really care for anyone.we try and solve cases because we love the hunt.no because of the victim.

11/21/2015 02:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really don't get where the DRIVER's head was during this incident. Not calling an ambulance when your father is having a heart attack and driving him to the hospital yourself? What would / could the driver have done if his father had heart failure on the way, administered CPR with one hand while steering with the other? It seems to me that calling an ambulance - which is staffed by trained personnel who have equipment on board to deal with these kinds of issues - would have been the smarter decision. Trooper exercised some common sense and probably saved Dad's life. Sonny should get over the fact that he may not have been overly sensitive at 10pm, when the first wave of drunks start their nightly trips home.

11/21/2015 03:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Troopers are discouraged from escorting civilian vehicles in medical emergencies"
...but they have no problem escorting visiting NFL teams from and to O'Hare, with their sirens blasting away because the player's time is apparently more important than everyone else on the road. I guess it's important for them to make it to dinner on time, while reckless driving on shoulders, etc remains rampant daily. I always thought the sirens etc were to indicate an emergency. I truly like to respect what our fine officers do on a daily basis, but this forces me to wonder and rethink. Respect is a 2 way street. Seconds count with heart attack issues and I know a quick drive to the hospital for many would beat ambulance response times.

11/21/2015 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sun Times fuckin sucks. But if I'm the father I'm pissed as well

11/21/2015 04:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Trooper did it right thing he took the safe corse. all are well and all will have a happy thanks giving. Stay safe. Doug H.

11/21/2015 04:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Plain stupidity.

Give them a code 3 escort to hospital emergency and stand by while patient goes into the ER. If the "patient" is faking, throw the book at the driver.

11/21/2015 10:41:00 AM

What's a 'code three escort'??

11/21/2015 04:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know that area very well. Normally I would say cut the guy a break but they had to pass Silver Cross which is visible from 355 and drive 25 minutes north. If they're concerned enough to speed, than go to the nearest hospital. To the old timers like myself, you're out of your mind to escort anyone to the hospital. They wreck and it's on you genius.

11/21/2015 05:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Escorts are very strictly prohibited at ISP.

As of today, 8700 crash reports in 2015 on the Tollways. That's just reported crashes. Most of them caused by speeding or distracted driving. So yes, "everyone speeds," but it's also bumper cars out there most days on 355, 294, 90...

11/21/2015 06:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For anyone saying you side with the old boy and his meat head kid, you are idiots. Sorry I hate name calling but that is just the truth.

First and foremost since many of you reference "if it were my family," well I would hope if it were your family you would go to THE CLOSEST EMERGENCY ROOM. If you are talking about an emergency and you really have concern for your family, then you get them treatment. Don't talk about minutes counting when you add dozens of miles to your ride. That is blatantly stupid.

Second, based on the the written description and the accompanying video evidence it would appear that the guy was faking it. He can argue and exit the car and wander around while citing a heart attack? Get the fuck out.

Now if it is an obvious emergency and you are driving fast that is fine, hell I don't care about quotas and really don't believe in writing movers, but that is a risk you take. It is speeding no matter how you skin it.

People catch hundreds of breaks everyday, sometimes they don't. Tough shit. If he were driving to a reasonable medical facility that made sense with the story, by all means question the merits, but they were not.

11/21/2015 06:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC couldn't disagree with you more, a solid officer would have gave them an escort to the hospital. Who gives a fuck about a speeding ticket? When I drive the Dan Ryan in a marked squad at 70mph people routinely blow right by me...ISP could have got their quota some other day.

11/21/2015 12:14:00 PM


70?!!!!! I hope you are in the far right lane grandpa. You slow pokes are always in my way. What worse is when you are in the express lanes fucking up traffic. I can't drive 55.

11/21/2015 07:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am no big fan of the ISP, they could be a great organization but have been starving for leadership since the Gainer regime.

I lost sympathy with lard ass O'Neil when I found out they were not traveling to the closest hospital. Right there shows me there was no exigency. No immediate danger. If your dad is in really deep shit, you go to the closest hospital. Period.

Another comment posted that location could be a factor in calling an ambulance. I agree. If you are in a remote area with a volunteer staff rather than a 24/7 ambulance in an urban area, driving yourself may work out better. But if your dad's/husband's/brother's condition takes a major shit and you are only halfway there, you are totally fucked.

Of course had O'Neil ended his courtship with Sara Lee and Little Debbie years ago, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

The enforcement action was proper under these circumstances.

I think we should FOI the information on the speeding ticket, and post O'Neil's address on every cop website. Since a balanced diet went out the window years ago, he may need a few pizzas.

11/21/2015 07:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We use discretion every day dealing with the public. This Trooper decided to issue a ticket. Is it wrong, no. But he has to live with his decisions too. A little goodwill can go a long way.

11/21/2015 10:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The copper was just plain wrong. Getting your quota is more important than a man's life? People drive 80 mph all the time on the expressways. Not especially dangerous. Just a minor traffic violation.

11/21/2015 10:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

The trooper was wrong and you should admit it. This is ridiculous and embarrassing conduct that feeds into all the worst stereotypes of police not using good judgment.

11/21/2015 10:22:00 AM
No, you're wrong and you should accept it. Ever work in an area with gypsies? Every traffic stop played out just like this. My dad's having chest pains, my daughters bleeding and may be pregnant. Every one was an ambulance call and a ticket. I let way more people go if they acknowledged they were going too fast to slow down once they saw me than the ones who argued any excuse.

11/21/2015 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For all of you people criticizing the trooper, go and ask them about a thing called ISP policy. Have you ever wondered why they don't have 10 different uniforms or mix and matched ones? They are strict about policy. FYI troopers have AEDs and it's protocol to call for an ambulance if someone is complaining of chest pains, particularly a heart attack. Escorts are not allowed. The NFL team "escort" is a security detail. Yeah, people have never lied to get out of a ticket ...smh. You escort someone to a hospital and allow them to go at high speeds, if someone gets hurt along the way, you get thrown under the bus along with a law suit.

11/22/2015 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

The copper was just plain wrong. Getting your quota is more important than a man's life? People drive 80 mph all the time on the expressways. Not especially dangerous. Just a minor traffic violation.

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Dumbass, once you stop him, everything from that point forward is YOUR responsibility.

If you're escorting him, it's on YOU.

He wrecks, it's on YOU.

God forbid he kills someone, it's on YOU.

It was a traffic violation until the stop, after that, it's a medical emergency and the correct call is for the ambulance.

11/22/2015 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, trooper is not wrong. He definitely should stop and definitely call for and ambulance.
Give a ticket? I wouldn't have but I'm not going to say trooper was wrong for doing it. In the end it's not like the judge dismissed it.

11/22/2015 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You could have let someone go in the days before cameras and GPS on police cars, but not today. And F.Y.I. one's auto insurance may not cover you if you are using your personal car as an ambulance. Driving that fast greatly increases the risk of an accident. Ambulance crew can also stabilize a heart attack victim enough so they make it to a hospital. The days of driving your family quickly to a hospital are over. It's just too dangerous, too many cars on the road.

11/22/2015 01:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wanted to say thanks for the times dealing with ISP on and off duty. Always professional and courteous. Thanks again guys be safe out there. Signed CPD officer

11/22/2015 03:11:00 AM  
Anonymous NYPD said...

I need a bus, Central.

11/22/2015 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you can't tell a gypsie from a regular citizen then your not much of a copper.

11/22/2015 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am the wife of a L.E.O. I am very disappointed in the actions or lack thereof of the Illinois State Police.

My husband on the way to work had our one and only car damaged by an IDOT snowplow. My husband called the Illinois State Police as it was in their jurisdiction to respond to fill out a report.

The sergeant and the trooper both of the Illinois State Police told my husband that they were inundated with reports and accidents. He was told to go to one of their headquarters the following day to fill out a report. My husband and I both understood this. We realize the ISP is understaffed and it was a very busy night with the snow.

Next day my husband went to their district headquarters. My husband explained through the intercom the situation and that he was told to come in to get a report filled out by the ISP sergeant and another trooper the night before. The trooper refused to let my husband in and told my husband that they could not fill out a report for him. The report of our car being damaged would have to wait until the following day. The trooper said it was because of some type of emergency weather plan. That is why they refused to take my husband's report. Even though the sergeant and trooper from the Illinois State Police the night before told my husband to go into the district headquarters.

I am sure some smart ass will write in and tell us to get another car. The problem personally for us is: 1. this is our only car. 2. We have children who need to get to school in a safe vehicle. They cannot be driven in a car with no windshield from damage from the IDOT snowplow, 3. One of the children has special needs and is on a new medication. If I as their mother needs to drive my child for help, we do not have a car. I would be calling an ambulance. If the trooper at headquarters would of done his job then we would have a report, could proceed with our glass claim. Insurance sends someone out to your home to get the windshield fixed.

At the very least , trooper, my husband identified his office. I am sure you have a camera for him to show proof of where he works and could of let him in out of the freezing cold to discuss the issue with him inside the building. He was following your sergeant and fellow trooper's directive.

Shame on you,
"Karen," Wife of L.E.O.

11/22/2015 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am the wife, "Karen," that wrote in regarding the ISP refusing to take a report. I wanted to add to my comment.

Both my husband and I do understand that the ISP is understaffed. We truly do. In our opinion, it could of been handled better and we are grateful my husband did not get hurt despite the windshield being shattered.

I realize I typed in about us having one car. I know there may be people who will detract from the main theme of the original post so I will explain. We lost everything because my L.E.O's insurance would NOT cover any of our special need's child's therapy. I tried very hard to get the insurance to pay for it. We are recovering to this day financially from losing everything to help our child.

I truly hope my post inspires someone within the ISP to act with more courteous and professional behavior towards all citizens not just my L.E.O. husband.

Sincerely,
"Karen," wife of a L.E.O. Blue lives do matter. God Bless

11/22/2015 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's a 'code three escort'??


It's when you hit lights and sirens while escorting a person to the hospital. Windows must be rolled down, crown caps backwards and doctor mask on. While en route you and the partner inform (hanging out the window yelling) every vehicle and pedestrian you pass that your going to the hospital with a finger pointing in the direction of travel. Trust me, it's in rules and reg.'s

11/22/2015 02:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karen,

If you truly have a special needs child, you have my sympathy. But the rest of your story falls apart.

If your husband is truly LEO, then he understands the chain of command. If things went bad as you say, hubby should have called his brass to call ISP brass and get it straightened out. Sometimes a phone call from a Lt. to a Sgt telling him to make sure Ofc Smith's wife gets a report before shift change works wonders.

Or, if your husband is LEO, he could have done an end run around the ISP and called the Sheriff's Dept where it happened. They too, know ISP has been understaffed since the Edgar administration, and as such, will take a desk report.

Or, get it fixed and put it on a credit card. Insurance reimbursement for windshields is fairly prompt. I've had several replaced and always had a check within a week, if not on the spot.

Does your LEO hubby know you are bashing a fellow LEO on a public blog? Dumb move. Word will get out who you are and who he is. And you will create inter-agency friction over a $200.00 windshield that will take years to scab over. Nothing worse than a cop hiding behind his wife's apron. "Hey Bill, heard that drunk roughed you up on that arrest last night. Gonna have your old lady kick his ass?"

Focus your time on your child, not another Sun-Times smear job.

Retired LEO

11/23/2015 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retired LEO, 11/23/2015 58:00 AM


Yes, my husband knows I am posting on Second City Cop first of all.

Second, my husband called the ISP because it happened on the highway. It was within their jurisdiction. This is who 911 put his call through. Not the Cook County Sheriff. If it happened in Chicago, you could go to any district and a cop would right up a report no problem but it did not. It happened on the highway. At the time my husband did not think to call the Sheriff. It still does not negate any responsibility on the part of the ISP to provide a report when my husband took direction given to my husband by the sergeant and trooper. Both of the ISP. My husband could not have made it any simpler by showing up where he was told to at the Chicago District, ISP.

Third, we try not to run up credit cards so we pay cash but thank you for the suggestion.

Fourth, while my husband can handle himself, I absolutely would be available to kick someone's ass if he asked me to.

Lastly, your false, "sympathy," for my child having special needs is noted.
You have no idea of the amount of time and money we have spent, sleepless nights.
worrying about our child. Not to mention the IEP meetings. You can look up what that term means later since you have so much time on your hands.

And no, I am not sorry for posting about the poor treatment my husband received, His close buddies on the job are familiar with who we are and they are more than supportive. If anything, the ISP looks poorly. My husband followed the directions given to him by the ISP sergeant and trooper to a T. Went exactly to the location the following day he was directed by the ISP sergeant and trooper to go to.

Again, it was poor relations on ISP part just as it was poor relations to screw over a guy whose father was having a heart attack. The bottom line is how the person was treated whose father was suffering. The poor treatment was reported in the Sun Times and how my husband was treated is being noted on SCC.

Just because someone is an L.E.O. does not always make them right.

I did not complain to anyone else and could have tried to make a bigger stink out of this. Out of respect for my husband and other officers I did not and will not.

Any further comments from you will go unheeded since I need to, "focus time on my child." You can waste your retired time posting further. I will not read any of your comments further. I am satisfied with my posts.

Retired Super Trooper enjoy your retirement.

Hopefully, you will never know what it to have a special needs child/grandchild.



Karen







11/23/2015 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trooper right on this one. Too many motorists AND pedestrians being placed in danger, not only from drivers like this, but from whackey, irresponsible private and public Ambulance drivers racing to Hospitals with someone in back with a non-life threatening injury. It is irresponsible for suburbs and cities to allow ANYONE to speed thru their jurisdictions, running red lights; etc; without a full written incident report of the circumstances submitted, and fully examined by officials of the city-suburb-town that is allowing them to drive like this thru their jurisdictions unchecked.
I have heard stories from cops about following some of these nutjob ambulance jockeys barreling thru their jurisdictions, being followed by the Cops, who then shortly thereafter found that the ambulance jockeys were in a hurry to get to pizza joints, restaurants, friends houses, back to their offices, etc. endangering the public in this manner even for 1mile should not be tolerated, and it's the jurisdiction's responsibility to very closely monitor these so-called "emergency" ambulance runs, which turn out to be non-emergency situations. Risking any motorists or pedestrians lives needlessly should absolutely not be tolerated for any reason.

11/23/2015 09:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think "Karen" has special needs.

A freakin windshield repair these two geniuses could not figure out.

Husband sounds like Cook County's answer to Bruce Jenner. Or an O'Neil relative. Or both.

Pick up the pieces of your shattered life and move on. Join BLM. They look for people with hurt feelings by the po-leece that lack cognitive reasoning skills.

11/24/2015 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karen,
On behalf of ISP and a special needs parent I'm truly sorry for your experience. Regardless of your husband's employment, your report should have been handled professionally. I would recommend you sending a letter to the commander to the district you went to file the report. The incident report would have taken 15 minutes to fill out. Don't let this experience ruin your perception. There are many of us out there that would have taken care of your problem right away.

11/24/2015 01:24:00 PM  

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