Seriously? A License?
- Big changes are underway right now in the way abusive police officers are investigated and punished. FOX 32 News has learned proposals by lawmakers include a first-ever "law enforcer license" that cops would have to obtain and renew at regular intervals, just like lawyers and doctors.
Police departments in Illinois could no longer conceal for a year or more even inflammatory dash-cam videos, like the one showing the death of Laquan McDonald - not if Attorney General Lisa Madigan and legislators she's working with have their way.
“You're outside. Everything is being taped. And so, the promise of that is that there will be more accountability if there is more transparency,” Lisa Madigan said.
In that case, let us be the first to formally propose that, in the name of "more accountability" and "more transparency," lawmakers be among the first to start wearing cameras so that Illinoisans can see exactly how they are being represented in Chicago, Cook County and Springfield.
Licensing? So what would this take the form of? We certainly aren't going to start paying many hundreds of dollars the way doctors and lawyers do - we already work for the government. They don't, therefore they can pass the total costs off to their clientele. Charging the police would open all sorts of doors that the legislators aren't even considering.
Maybe some sort of certification like paramedics have to do to keep their certifications? Brilliant idea! Except.....
Correct us if we're wrong, but does anyone recall a contract in the 1990's where the FOP proposed something like six days be set aside for "in-service-training"? A mere six days where officers could be trained with all the bright ideas that come from on high? The City said, "No," and the issue never came to a vote from the membership. Instead, we were saddled with "training videos" and everyone sat in Roll Call for 5 or 15 minutes and watched a video on a crappy TV with a VCR that had seen better days and the Department considered you "trained" in whatever crap they were pushing that week. With the overlapping day off groups, you might watch it two or three times while the WC made sure they got everyone at least once. That was the extent of "training" for many years done totally on the cheap.
Six days looks mighty cheap about now, rather than how many millions a jury might award - or a City Council.
Licensing? So what would this take the form of? We certainly aren't going to start paying many hundreds of dollars the way doctors and lawyers do - we already work for the government. They don't, therefore they can pass the total costs off to their clientele. Charging the police would open all sorts of doors that the legislators aren't even considering.
Maybe some sort of certification like paramedics have to do to keep their certifications? Brilliant idea! Except.....
Correct us if we're wrong, but does anyone recall a contract in the 1990's where the FOP proposed something like six days be set aside for "in-service-training"? A mere six days where officers could be trained with all the bright ideas that come from on high? The City said, "No," and the issue never came to a vote from the membership. Instead, we were saddled with "training videos" and everyone sat in Roll Call for 5 or 15 minutes and watched a video on a crappy TV with a VCR that had seen better days and the Department considered you "trained" in whatever crap they were pushing that week. With the overlapping day off groups, you might watch it two or three times while the WC made sure they got everyone at least once. That was the extent of "training" for many years done totally on the cheap.
Six days looks mighty cheap about now, rather than how many millions a jury might award - or a City Council.
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posted by SCC at 12:39 AM
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U guys are about to see the end of police unions in Illinois, any ways... I was thinking about this for a minute... Cpd has a higher percentage rate at punishing officers.... Then the arrest and conviction rate of "alleged" shooters, I used "alleged" because someone gets cleared by the courts after conviction--- what is that rate Mc-had-a-job.... Less that 20 percent
Homicide rate. ... meet Mr license
Total AMATEUR ideas by those who think they know everything.
Forget cameras. Why not licenses for politicians? In Illinois, 80% of those "political licenses" would have to be revoked - maybe more.
Plus, who is on the panel to say Yes or No to the applicant? Another "Clout" panel of political hacks who need some type of "pay job" that has benefits?
Illinois has enough "commissions" to take care of the politically connected.
How about something fresh and new like a mandate that says cut 20% out of every budget in Illinois? If you are an administrator or agency head, and you cannot find 20% to cut, YOUR job is eliminated. AND NO MUSICAL CHAIRS. You lost your job in one agency, YOU GONE.
Funny, how they tell people, "sorry there are no job openings in the state", but those who worked for Quinn got jobs in other areas of the state and never missed a paycheck. Why isn't Lisa investigating that?
An Illinois Law Enforcement Licensing Commission.
More big dollar chief jobs.
Staff
Deputies
Investigators
cars
Offices
Pensions
Where is the money going to come from in a state that is so broke it can't even pay lottery winners?
We will probably have to carry our own insurance like doctors carry "malpractice" insurance. We know the city wont indemnify is we are licensed by the state. Or maybe FOP will negotiate something good for us.....ah, who am i kidding?
"You're outside , everything is being taped ".
I think that this city , county , state would run a lot more efficiently if everything "inside " was taped .
I have no idea on how to tell the future, but chicago are you fucked in your homicide total next year,
My God your city and your profession are so totally disfunctional.
No regular training?
When and where are you supposed to learn and practice active shooter response?
How to deal with IEDS?
Tasers?
First Aid?
A thousand other new tasks, standards and procedures?
How about something simple like detaining, cuffing and frisking a suspect?
Do you ever get refresher training, and more importantly, someone knowledgeable pointing out where you are #$%^ing up and leaving you or your partner vulnerable?
Because the last person that was perfect still ended up crucified, and we are not close to perfect.
Once again - redundancy! We are "certified" by the IL Police Training Board. If you are terminated the agency reports the termination to the Board. The Board can revoke your certification & when/if another dept hires you they notify the Board. The Board will advise the agency that you're de-certified and they must terminate you. Just as IL has ridiculous rates for the IROC card - watch the goofs in Springpatch try to use the license ploy to raise more revenue. If our state & local FOP don't fight this - what will they fight. Look at how the stop card receipt bill passed without any dissent by Lodge 7 until the bill landed on Gov. Rouner's desk - which he signed. Look at how peace officers had to get a FOID unless the weapon/ammo is dept owned. No fee exemption for the working officer.
Well if all police officers are considered bad over this political firestorm involving one cop's actions then I guess entire professions will be held accountable for the actions of the very few bad ones like the following case in which a teacher was sentenced to 50 years for raping underaged students. Happens all the time but the media never pushes it. I guess all teachers are child rapists since we are painting entire professions with the same brush now. Stigmas are cool and politically correct so lets spread the disease. Politicians, parole board members,judges, social workers, bus drivers and magicians you're next. Federal investigations are coming for you.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/news/ct-teacher-sex-assault-sentencing-met-20151105-story.html
HEY HOLD IT WHERES THE FEDS on this Legislative Inspector General (LIG) Story , That has all the dope from the computers on all the Alter Creatures. Lets not forget about that Story , Lets Clean House together in a ORDERLY FASHION - City Counsel And The Mayor , right now that things are HOT and good to go ., lol Then we can really celebrate a NEW YEAR
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-council-inspector-general-fbi-met-111
(Did everyone see this)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/chi-city-council-watchdog-sues-em
LIG Suing the Mayor and several Alder-creatures
The state can't even find money to pay lottery tickets--how could they implement something like this?
Oh, I know! Get a clouted contractor to do it!
Somebody once posted how to get around the Trib's wall to read stories....can someone repost that?
We need to make it easier to call iad without leaving a name for fear of retaliation. Maybe then we wouldn't be in this mess.
Answer your calls. That's it. Give them what they want. we cant make it better until it gets worse.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-video-san-francisco-police-shooting-20151203-story.html
SCC, Hearts & Prayers for Scott Weiland. We ALL know he came thru BIG TIME as a Rock & Rolla Legand. Taken too soon and Prayers for his Family, Fans, and Rock and Rolls loss.
Never ran into a Copper that changed STP while playing in the squad.
RIP, Scotty, U were a true grunge Legend
Thx, SCC I knew U Boys feel it too
Since they are suddenly bringing sunshine to Illinois government, they surely will approve One-Party recording when necessary to prove government misconduct, right?
...or maybe there's a good reason the legislature passed the current law in Illinois.
So...
These noisy, ignorant children want to "license" Police Officers?
Summary suspension/revocation when enough people/folks
swear out enough bogus affidavits against Police Officers?
Why not expose the entrenched elected official class of
Chicago/Cook County/Illinois to this dangerously feverish thinking?
Same thing for media talking heads too!
These institutions and the people in them have caused more
collective harm than any Policeman ever could.
Smug shit-talk toward the Police:
"If you guys just do your jobs in a professional manner, you'll have nothing
to be afraid of so stop all that rebellious talk about giving us
that plain, unseasoned, bare minimum, drop a report - run away
and hide Policing. Stop trying to protect yourselves from us. That's
dereliction of duty, denial of Police service and refusal to honor
your oath. We should fire all of you and replace you with younger,
more pliable officers who won't mind working harder for less money."
Careful what y'all ask for...
Too many people wishing Policemen as a whole were not only
just stupid, but also bereft of any instinctive sense of imminent danger.
"We need to change Po-leece kulcha!"
Translation:
"You guys are too old, too into your traditions and too into your rights
for our comfort."
They want us to fight all this crime but they don't want
the very necessary ass kicking, eye slapping and head knocking
that goes along with it...
To say nothing of the sight and sound of a few late 80's/and early 90's
heavy Chevy sedans skidding to a stop...
>Both front doors swing open. Two leather clad Patrolmen exit.
Hard soled, steel toed boondocker boots planted firmly
on the pavement as 12 plus feet and 500 plus pounds
of hard-eyed, unsmiling, gray-haired, thick mustache
having, 5 inch .45 pistol on the hip, short barrel .357 in deep
concealment with a chipped and dented baton in the ring.
Both are wreathed in magical ceegar smoke as the car rises on
it's suspension<
Whoops...
Too intimidating.
Right?
People and folks will be more at ease when
all Policemen are the same size and stature as Rahm.
"You cops are a bunch of overly large,
thick-necked, blue collar 'roid heads who are
too quick to resort to boots, fists and guns."
So are the two-legged critters we're expected to hunt...
"They're oppressed.
You cops aren't."
Unnecessary , this is all about diverting attention from Rahman $4,900,000 hush money payout that was approved by alderman to the Police Department . Certain block of voters are considered brain dead by the democratic machine . Chiraq will soon look like chitroit .
Guess those who got on this job by who they know instead of passing the test are in trouble. Look around at your role call. How many there shouldn't be on this job?
Okay - to me badge would equal certificate. Doctor or lawyer who went to medical or law school vs police with 60 college credits who attended a police acedemy. Change the requirements to be hired by CPD to a masters degree. If you need continuing education make sure you have enough computers at the place of business. 1hr at the beginning or end of shift on said computer to learn how to wipe your ass better.
My guess is that this is a way to bypass the FOP contract and it's protections. If police were licensed by the state and the state pulls an officers license then that person cannot be the police and the city and the FOP cannot do anything about it. Same as a drivers license is a condition of employment. No D/L no employment.
How about a license for the corrupt democrat polititions in this city and state? Lisa start with daddy dearest!
I'll get a license as soon as this city answers how the merit Sgts have now scored really high on the Lt's exam? Fucking cheaters!!!! I want a federal take over of CPD!! You corrupt motherfuckers cheating on a promotion exam. It wasn't enough you made Sgts by prostituting yourselves now you want more? This was my last shot to make Lt. I don't give a fuck about exposing your asses. I don't care about Lt anymore but before I leave this post office of a ghetto police Dept I'm going to use everything I've learned as a police officer, detective and sgt to expose this travesty. Who the fuck do these traitor's think they are? I'm going to request the FBI and US Attorney General's office to investigate.
BS
The ACADEMY HAS BEEN A JOKE FOR YEARS
How about the DOJ look into the corruption and miss use of official resources?
Get ride of the security platoon for Rhams's family Waste of resources
Carrying Amys dry cleaning thinking they're secrete service but ironically no security
You Don't have to be A US Citizen to be the police in ChIraq
............Now isn't that funny
Why Don't the politicians start with that issue first
I haven't seen a roll call training video in many years
Eventually, the city will stop defending you if you screw up. "You have been trained."
How about a license to teach at the CPD Police Academy
*****Some officers there for over 15 yrs!!
*****Some had only 2 years on the street before getting their spot
There's the real joke
Start asking for all the Academy records and instructor qualifications
The DOJ first stop Personnel and the Academy
Defelction ALWAYS Blaming the PO
How about AG Madigan hold hearings and grill McJersey in public
There IS a war on police, but when people are in trouble they sure are glad to see us. For example, in San Bernardino.
The BLM movement seems to think there is a widespread police conspiracy against them and there isn't.
I still don't understand why BLM isn't pissed off about black on black crime but judge all police on a few (possibly) bad shootings.
I don't think any copper goes to work hoping they'll be in a position to shoot a black person, but a thug sure heads out with that thought in mind. I just don't get it.
Could people lose their "Police license" if they cheat on promo tests??
Put a fork in me because I'm done.
What the fuck. When is this going to stop? Still, not a fucking word about the black crime rate in Chicago or political corruption.
I always wonder why we receive so little training. I haven't gotten any training in years.
Can't pass a budget or pay bills or control their spending but the state politicians are going to run police business? GFYS. This is truly bizaro world
Then why would we get state certified? That is our license! Freaking morons
How about life time nationwide term limits for elected officials? I propose a nationwide term limit of 2 terms to an elected position. This would mean that you could be elected to the highly corrupt and federally convictable position of Chicago alderman twice and then you are done ever being elected to any position nationwide. That means that you would actually go out in the world and earn a living. No more being jumping form city to county elected positions for ever. I hope the feds snag a certain few south alderman who have declared war on the Police. Like HB and WC for starters.
A community that makes war against its Police had better learn to make friends with its criminals.
A quick thank you to our Interim Superintendent Escalante for attending the Chaplains annual GSF dinner last night. The last 2 outsider superintendents were always NO-SHOWS at this annual dinner. Only once did GMAC show up and he was glued to the bar. Prior to that either the Supt or 1st Deputy was in attendance.
Thanks for being there last night.
Yes Lawfare and the war on America's Defenders - in this case Cops - continues.
So far only one side is fighting.
No punch back or quit whining and take it.
Srsly. They're literally howling for your blood. At least call them out as enemies, deny them legitimacy and refuge of The Law. You can do that.
As for the politicians you've been shown the way.
Turn.Your.Backs.
That poor little neurotic DeBlasio is so called out while a real villain like Rahm isn't should embarrass you.
Turn.Your.Backs.
Or Bend over.
Ta.
The cities bullshit training has come back to haunt them.
Videos training list?
How to secure your email
Ethic on how big a gift basket you can take yet every exempts takes tickets to Bears games etc...
How to search a cross dresser and dont call them its!
Don't shot moving cars just duck.
Their intent is if your department complaints rise to a level that the legislative body deems wrong, they will revoke your license and you cannot work as a police officer. Does not matter if these complaints have any validity.
More pandering bullshit,,,,
Anytime you see a politician use the word "transparency" you can substitute the word pandering, and then substitute the word whore or pimp for politician.
We are already licensed by the state of IL and received certification to enforce law and carry firearms, part of that being yearly qualification of the firearms we already use. This is another redundant useless piece of legislation which is costing taxpayers more money. The city should be REQUIRED to use the funds it receives by the state and federal government which are specifically allocated for law enforcement, for training and equipment purposes ONLY! If they want to start a federal investigation, why not start with auditing all the funds this municipality has received over the last 20 years and examine where all the money was used. Funds for hiring new officers, procuring new equipment, training programs/facilities for anti-terrorism protocol, active shooter scenarios, etc. I've been on the department for almost 2 decades and I have not seen nor experienced one new program, seminar, facility, or updated piece of useful (and functioning) technology. They get millions from state and federal grants, yet we have a department with seriously diminished manpower where more and more officers are working 99 on third and first watches, time off is denied constantly, damaged or broken equipment (especially vehicles) remains unusable/unfixed for months Any manner of "training" is homogenized, condensed, and delivered in some 5 minute video which is of the same caliber as a Troy McLure elementary school educational film. The only "training facility" this department does utilize is an abandon school with a leaking roof, mold, and nonfunctioning plumbing which was closed for asbestos contamination. The police stations are not far behind the state of that abandon school. Most have numerous issues with facilities such as leaking pipes, broken toilets, mold, rodent/insect infestations, broken key card locks, no security in garages or perimeter entries, broken computers with outdated software, broken printers and lack of basic supplies. All of this, on top of years of failing to make the necessary contributions to police pension funds. This is somehow all overlooked and dismissed, meanwhile they use officers as scapegoats for a problem that was created by all of these politicians who used entitlements and subsidies in exchange for votes.
If that idea passes, I guess that the Illinois state Certification board is now useless. But I suspect that the tests will continue, as the Office that certifies has a well paid staff, and manager with a nice Pension down the road. Another expensive layer of political bureaucracy, that's for sure...Keep voting for the same politicians Illinois. It's working out so well...
Training? A dept. whose SWAT team scored last in a nationwide competition, needs more training?
SCC, are you saying that the CPD is an untrained, unprofessional mob? Sure sounds like it.
Also,
How many officers were offered free training over the years and the department turned down the requests. Some officers even offered to pay for the hotels and transportation, but the city turned them down. Of course, then you might learn something and that would be dangerous to the high command.
No one would really want this shit job in Chicago!
I tell people all the time, go do something else other than police work!
I can't wait to retire from this shitty City and move from this crooked State! Illinois one of the worst states in this country!
There are plenty of issues that this bimbo Lisa Madigan can investigate right in city hall and city council.
She is just a lazy, dumb, pandering idiot who is protected by her daddy Mike Madigan!
Plumbers have to be licensed in our state. Same with many other less important professions than law enforcement. I see this more as being a cash grab than anything else, but it isn't the worst idea I've ever heard either.
This could be a good thing. Think about it. Get rid of the riff raff
Training on this department is piss poor to say the least. The academy is staffed with a pack of suck ass house mice afraid of the street. That assignment should never extend beyond 2 years tops, honestly a 1 year temporary duty assignment would be best. However they hide out down there for decades and dodge actual police work while telling other people's stories to wide eyed recruits.
LEMART and the rifle training are pretty good and about the only accessible training I would ever recommend.
Hopefully now that McCarthy is gone for better or worse, that failed abortion of a training Module "Police Legitimacy" goes with him.
Believe it or not laws change and it wouldn't hurt to have some actual training to keep people well versed on how to handle this job. Of course if they actually provided legitimate promotional opportunities maybe officers would read and study more often.
We already have state certification.
This can only be used by politicians to remove a police officer anytime there is a large public outcry without any sort of administrative rights. Justified or not. This a bad deal for Us and a slippery slope. Why would anybody want the job anymore...
Just say'n...
this is what rahm-toni-anita-rauner and the rest are asking all police?
Brutal but it is what it is truth!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KGRZuWXVhA
How about firearms training, senario's, updated ranges, real training training training! I remember seeing in tv the old hogans alley type trainings. That's so out dated but 1000x better than anything we have.
O wait never mind. We got no money for that. Might as well give it to the shitheads so they can have a house and food and school and everything else for free and sell dope and commit crimes and use illegal narcotics etc etc....and vote for the liberals that give it to them.
Wow! I actually think this is the nail in the coffin. I think even the bosses will stop screaming for activity now. How scary to be the police. Who will want this job? I'd be surprised if 100 people took the test.
I'm all about the training. How about mandatory shooting range once a month, once a month class on updates of the law, Tactical training every 6 months. Suburban cops get trained all the time and they don't have all that sh!t going on that we have... but who am I kidding...
Golly Lisa. Accountability, transparency, why don't you start with your Dad
In the other states that license police there are a few benefits to being licensed. Transfer to other agencies with in that state seniority and pension go with you.
If anyone thinks manpower is low now just wait. With the attack on police and demoralization it will drive many into early retirement and no one will take the test to fill the spots.
Clueless people turn to government to solve all their issues.
Is this true? The next dashcam video that is coming out, the upstanding citizen Ronald Johnson car jacked somebody at gun point, ran from police with gun in hand, got shot, and they are calling for "peaceful" protests? How rediculous are things getting? How long before the media stops saying mr Johnson carjacked somebody? Or ran with a gun? And repeats the unbelievable rediculous lie that cpd planted the gun? #blackliesmatter
The politicians in Illinois are trying to throw all the blame from the video release blowback on CPD when we all know Rham personally delayed the tape release to get reelected. Now Madigan, Preckwinkle, Rauner, Alvarez are all yelling, no don't look at us, CPD is the problem! We need to clean it up. An incident with one officer and the whole department is being scapegoated as the problem to protect the political elite. We will be under a federal consent decree with body cameras, new licenses, and more oversight and regulation than any other profession on earth while Illinois politicians continue to mislead and fleece the taxpayers with impunity.
I still have my license. The State of Illinois sent it to me many years ago. I never bothered to frame it or the Chicago license I received from the academy, but I do have them somewhere in a file cabinet.
Time to take off your shoes, get a good newspaper, and snuggle up with a free coffee in your CPD cruiser.Do nothing.
My Father was an officer from 1933 to 1964. When Orlando W.Wilson came to Chicago one of the first things he started was classes for CPD. No one now probably remembers that era.
The purpose of such legislation and the requirment to license is to obviate the terms of our contract. The limited protection that we are afforded by our collective bargaining agreements could be sidestepped by the licensing agency simply pulling or suspending our license pending the months and years that prosecutors and the city take to determine our fate. And who might we expect to run the licensing agency? Is it likely to be some disinterested and independent professional who carefully balances the interests of state and individual or some hack politician attached at the hip to Lisa Madigan and her ilk? Do you believe it likely that the expediencies of Illinois politics might somehow outweigh an officer's right to Due Process? Nothing in recent history to indicate that that might happen. All investigations, including that by the Federal Government, concluded that the police officer in Ferguson , Missouri, comported his actions to the state and federal laws and yet every discussion in the national news about alleged police misconduct begins with calls to prevent the wrongs commited by the officer inFerguson.
Licensing police officers at the statewide level will give Springfield an unprecedented control over local officials. If that is there intent, make all police in Illinois, State Police.
Lack of a comprehensive training program is reflective of incompetent Management.
No Superintendent in the last 30 years has ever made training a priority during their tenure.
The Chickens have come home to roost.
"How many officers were offered free training over the years and the department turned down the requests. Some officers even offered to pay for the hotels and transportation, but the city turned them down. Of course, then you might learn something and that would be dangerous to the high command.
12/04/2015 10:09:00 AM"
Why is that you may ask because of the gold stars and white shirts who see an educated Officer that may know more than them as a personal threat and will expose them as the frauds they truly are.
Chime on in White shirts and try to defend yourselves. 1070 is a prime example.
I'm not CPD or in law enforcement at all and I think Officers having to apply for a license is among the stupidest things I've ever heard. Maybe someone should point out to these politicians how well licenses work to stop medical malpractice (they don't). If their brilliant FOID cards don't work, this won't either. This is utterly ridiculous, a waste of everyone's money, and is going to STOP good people from becoming police officers. I'm so sick of politicians punishing everyone for the bad behaviors of the few.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A quick thank you to our Interim Superintendent Escalante for attending the Chaplains annual GSF dinner last night. The last 2 outsider superintendents were always NO-SHOWS at this annual dinner. Only once did GMAC show up and he was glued to the bar. Prior to that either the Supt or 1st Deputy was in attendance.
So Superintendent McCarthy did show up, he wasn't a no show.
The only reason the politicians want the feds here is to distract the feds from investgating fellow politicians. Daley was always willing to give feds info on the Police, but he would be uncooperative when it was time to give info on politicians.
How about we raise the standards of hiring and take the best qualified candidates? This is what happens when you try and fill quotas by lowering the standards for a more "diverse" applicant pool. Then to top it off you are put in a "lottery". This ship as been bailing out water for years. It's just finally overwhelmed it. I am all for another certification. Will we're out even more less qualified people. BRING IT ON.
first let's look at the hiring process in general. What other job involves life or death situations and quick thinking? Doctors. Do you see anyone pushing for a lottery for them? Maybe you should just get a lottery on your surgeon rather then getting to pick? Great ideas from libtards. The ones who need it the most are the ones spewing this bullshit. Let's get them cameras and accountability. Where does all my money go I pay in takes and they steal out of my check?
Anonymous said...
Training on this department is piss poor to say the least. The academy is staffed with a pack of suck ass house mice afraid of the street. That assignment should never extend beyond 2 years tops, honestly a 1 year temporary duty assignment would be best. However they hide out down there for decades and dodge actual police work while telling other people's stories to wide eyed recruits.
LEMART and the rifle training are pretty good and about the only accessible training I would ever recommend.
Hopefully now that McCarthy is gone for better or worse, that failed abortion of a training Module "Police Legitimacy" goes with him.
Believe it or not laws change and it wouldn't hurt to have some actual training to keep people well versed on how to handle this job. Of course if they actually provided legitimate promotional opportunities maybe officers would read and study more often.
12/04/2015 11:10:00 AM
i year duty as a trainer? It takes 6 months to learn how to properly teach a academy class. A street wise officer cannot leave the street and teach the next day. You need to first be certified as a law enforcement instructor. But I understand your frustration with CPD training. Every time a class is recommended, the chief of patrol and Mccarthy say no. We cannot spare the officers off the street. Training is always ignored at 35th street. Exempts rarely pay any attention to the quality of training. They want a shortcut; a 5 minute video shown at roll call. Sounds like you are a bitter person with the academy? Do you have a grudge with the ACADEMY???
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We already have state certification.
12/04/2015 11:35:00 AM
Perhaps the primary legal officer of our State is unaware of this.
Official its now Terrorism in Cali PREPARE for More
Thank you COPs You're America's first line of defense
We have been at War Since 9-11 Never ever forget that
God Bless America
The Academy Staff FLUSh Bye Bye
Time to Clean house and start fresh
A quick thank you to our Interim Superintendent Escalante for attending the Chaplains annual GSF dinner last night. The last 2 outsider superintendents were always NO-SHOWS at this annual dinner. Only once did GMAC show up and he was glued to the bar. Prior to that either the Supt or 1st Deputy was in attendance.
Thanks for being there last night.
12/04/2015 09:03:00 AM
Hold on a minute. Before you all start fallating Escalante let's remember thT he too is a product of the system. He's been in the right place at the right time and had the right people (LAPA) pushing for him. Just like every new Supt, you guys set him up for failure by acting like he's the second coming of Jesus Christ. Then when he can't do anything that isn't sanctioned by City Hall you turn on him like Pit Bulls on crack.
How many retirements will a fed take over cause?
There is one benefit from requiring licensing - from what you guys have said on here, you don't receive nearly enough training and so-called continuing education. That's not a failing on the part of the Officers, that's on a department that doesn't want to invest in your skills.
That would be like the military never training their people after boot camp - fucking insanity!
So, licensing COULD be a good thing if departments were required to pay for it and held to training and continuing education standards. The problem is that we're in IL, where nothing is done correctly. There's always some bullshit agenda that stops things from working the way they should.
To the anonymous poster--
Anonymous said...
We need to make it easier to call iad without leaving a name for fear of retaliation. Maybe then we wouldn't be in this mess.
12/04/2015 04:06:00 AM.
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You pussy mother fucker. You want to hide behind some shroud of secrecy and make an anonymous complaint to IAD. Stand the fuck up for what you believe in and make the call. Leave your name and star number and write the report like you're supposed to. You pussy. If you see someone doing something that IAD should be investigating then you should want to intervene and either stop the action, report the action and if appropriate see the person(s) terminated. This is YOUR job, YOUR career and along with that comes an obligation. Afraid of being called a rat? Well not every dumb thing coppers do is an IAD concern, some of that actually falls on YOU, and on all of us. Step in and recommend the corrective action for the action that you deem wrong, inappropriate or offensive. Step in and talk to your fellow officer. If it's that serious of a transgression, then drop paper, make the appropriate calls and stand up for what's right. Stop being a pussy, and stop looking for other people to do what you are supposed to do. I'll bet your the copper who stands at the back of the car on a street stop while your partner conducts all the business because your too afraid to talk to the driver, look over the passengers or too scared to take any action.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We are already licensed by the state of IL and received certification to enforce law and carry firearms, part of that being yearly qualification of the firearms we already use. This is another redundant useless piece of legislation which is costing taxpayers more money. The city should be REQUIRED to use the funds it receives by the state and federal government which are specifically allocated for law enforcement, for training and equipment purposes ONLY! If they want to start a federal investigation, why not start with auditing all the funds this municipality has received over the last 20 years and examine where all the money was used. Funds for hiring new officers, procuring new equipment, training programs/facilities for anti-terrorism protocol, active shooter scenarios, etc. I've been on the department for almost 2 decades and I have not seen nor experienced one new program, seminar, facility, or updated piece of useful (and functioning) technology. They get millions from state and federal grants, yet we have a department with seriously diminished manpower where more and more officers are working 99 on third and first watches, time off is denied constantly, damaged or broken equipment (especially vehicles) remains unusable/unfixed for months Any manner of "training" is homogenized, condensed, and delivered in some 5 minute video which is of the same caliber as a Troy McLure elementary school educational film. The only "training facility" this department does utilize is an abandon school with a leaking roof, mold, and nonfunctioning plumbing which was closed for asbestos contamination. The police stations are not far behind the state of that abandon school. Most have numerous issues with facilities such as leaking pipes, broken toilets, mold, rodent/insect infestations, broken key card locks, no security in garages or perimeter entries, broken computers with outdated software, broken printers and lack of basic supplies. All of this, on top of years of failing to make the necessary contributions to police pension funds. This is somehow all overlooked and dismissed, meanwhile they use officers as scapegoats for a problem that was created by all of these politicians who used entitlements and subsidies in exchange for votes.
And then when they "update" computers they are worse than the ones they take away!!
Seriously ! Have any of these system decision makers ever had to try to use this junk they put in ?
Or is it the usual city hand shake "hurry up get it done" or
"got it done for ya boss" wink wink deal.
Here's an idea , a drug test for every citizen that receives any welfare , FTO. A free telephone to link card , every month if they fail . No welfare for the next five years , place kids in a state home .
Yet the hard chargers are still riding to sound of the boss' bugle.
A law license?? Hmmmm Just another way for these motherfuckers to line their pockets! How about a politicians license! 100 K initaily and 50K each year afterwords!
Anonymous said...
In the other states that license police there are a few benefits to being licensed. Transfer to other agencies with in that state seniority and pension go with you.
12/04/2015 12:21:00 PM
Then go to another state. It doesn't work that way in Illinois
Anonymous said...
Wow! I actually think this is the nail in the coffin. I think even the bosses will stop screaming for activity now. How scary to be the police. Who will want this job? I'd be surprised if 100 people took the test.
12/04/2015 11:57:00 AM
If you are going to be surprised if 100 people take the job, I wonder what you will be when 10,000 apply. Shocked dumfounded
News flash.......All with a Rule 14 violation to be de-certified by the state board, and then CPD will have no choice but to fire them. State does the dirty work for the city!
Anonymous said...
Training on this department is piss poor to say the least. The academy is staffed with a pack of suck ass house mice afraid of the street. That assignment should never extend beyond 2 years tops, honestly a 1 year temporary duty assignment would be best. However they hide out down there for decades and dodge actual police work while telling other people's stories to wide eyed recruits.
LEMART and the rifle training are pretty good and about the only accessible training I would ever recommend.
Hopefully now that McCarthy is gone for better or worse, that failed abortion of a training Module "Police Legitimacy" goes with him.
Believe it or not laws change and it wouldn't hurt to have some actual training to keep people well versed on how to handle this job. Of course if they actually provided legitimate promotional opportunities maybe officers would read and study more often.
12/04/2015 11:10:00 AM
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Everyone at the academy is a top notch instructor. Are credentials are stellar, many of us have masters degrees. We take pride in what we do. You should have invested in yourself instead of partying every weekend. Yea, go man that beat car and handle that domestic disturbance.
Anonymous said...
Okay - to me badge would equal certificate. Doctor or lawyer who went to medical or law school vs police with 60 college credits who attended a police acedemy. Change the requirements to be hired by CPD to a masters degree. If you need continuing education make sure you have enough computers at the place of business. 1hr at the beginning or end of shift on said computer to learn how to wipe your ass better.
12/04/2015 06:28:00 AM
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I hope that the licensing procedure gets rid of people like you. You really are slow. That is a charitable statement. The requirement will be from the state. That means that you will be responsible for handling the license and requirements completely on your own. You do not want to get the license? That is fine, you will get fired.
Just look at the Lts daughter with no qualifications, who taught at the Academy gm and is now in California. How the hell did she get hired. Qualifications my ass! a phone call. FEDs need to come in and clean house.
Golly Lisa. Accountability, transparency, why don't you start with your Dad
Sit back with pop corm and adult beverage. Illinois ChIraq House of Cards coming soon. poor Rham Anita Lisa and yes even the Daleys. This things got legs
Rham had the PO fired! FLOP silent. Answer just answer our calls Protect thy self
What is going on in 19, they are drug testing people on all three watches every day for the last month. The union needs to look into this and maybe SCC, this is harassment. They even drug tested the officers on the mayors detail on 2nd & 3rd watch today.
Will it pass a court challenge?
So if we get a license, then commit a department violation do we post it for bond? LOL
Anonymous said...
I have no idea on how to tell the future, but chicago are you fucked in your homicide total next year,
12/04/2015 02:28:00 AM
Would you be surprised to learn that each of the three Area Detective Divisions have several murders that are not yet officially classified as murders, awaiting approval from downtown to change them from death investigations or agg bats. They will get the approval sometime after the first of the year, after all the headlines concerning 2015 murder numbers fade away. When no one is paying any attention to the 2015 numbers they will be slipped in. This is how they've done it the past four years under McCarthy.
Greedy illinois politicians just want to steal more, so they gotta tax more, so they can steal more, then they can tax more.
Yogi Berra
09:41 hrs - Right on target - why not have the DOJ look at where all the Federal funding went. Half the time - grants are awarded to CPD and the funds seem to never leave City Hall until they pop up in another agency. But Deputy Chief Marv Shear knows nothing about it.
"O wait never mind. We got no money for that. Might as well give it to the shitheads so they can have a house and food and school and everything else for free and sell dope and commit crimes and use illegal narcotics etc etc....and vote for the liberals that give it to them.
12/04/2015 11:54:00 AM"
No Dildo, the Money is there they choose not to utilize and they get the Department that's been in the making for the last 25 years. When you have head in the sand, yes men frauds masquerading as CPD Command Staff this is the outcome.
Can't wait to see how many retirements this month at all ranks. If you have 29 years on go enjoy what's left of your life. If you have 29 years on AND are 55 and are sticking around its just sad. (Good for the pension fund though!) There is a lot more to life than this job!
I want transparency. Body cameras for all cops- fine. Release ALL the footage. Nothing held back, except maybe for victims in their home.
See how fast politicians start trying to bury videos of them and their friends acting like shitbags to cops. See how fast the mayor wants video of his family deleted.
CPD has the best firearms instructors clout can supply. When I go for the 30 round yearly qualification these "cops" are full of war stories, and advise about "lighting people up".
30 rounds @ a paper target once a year. That's it! Twice in the last three years the paper target could not be moved down range because of mechanical issues.
This 2015, Old School Policing is DEAD.
Enough said.
Officers will retire early , but thousands are waiting in line to take their place .
I'm all about the training. How about mandatory shooting range once a month, once a month class on updates of the law, Tactical training every 6 months. Suburban cops get trained all the time and they don't have all that sh!t going on that we have... but who am I kidding...
12/04/2015 12:08:00 PM
Yeah nothing ever happens in the suburbs. Nice and quiet. We just train all the time. We are fully staffed too. WRONG.
SO glad I'm done in August 2016. 20 years and out all at age 48.
OT but relevant - SCC, for non-cops like myself who have read about CompStat being touted by our fellow conservatives for years, I have been fascinated to read your critiques and am dying to know why. Will you please write a post detailing your (and probably fellow cops') CompStat critiques??
OT?
Gov. "I Cried" Rauner on radio now, yabbling about "loss of faith and trust."
I've noticed that. More than half of the city of my birth has become unusable to me; I even stop to blow my nose on the OP side of Austin, and there is some s__tbag on the Chi side of the street already gathering up a good load of rocks to throw. Idiot CTA or someone "landscaped" the bus stops with ammunition. Watch out for em dippin down repeatedly -- they are not scratching their ankle.
...and around the corner I go fast, taking my "faith and trust" with me to some other place where I might be able to use it.
CPD not the problem. Hardhead idiots the problem, in a ratio that probably approaches 10,000 to 1.
The only one who cared about training was Gary Schenkel. Thank you sir.
I hope that the Feds don't look into the 704 funds. Wink wink...
"How about mandatory shooting range once a month, once a month class on updates of the law, Tactical training every 6 months."
12/04/2015 12:08:00 PM
Private individuals I know spend more of their own time and money practicing. Got a Dillon 500 out there, keep pullin that handle and turning out hundreds of rounds of their choice, out to the pistol club one night a week.
CPD can't have a decent range because of some nutty bird that was allegedly glimpsed once near the discarded 55-gallon drums of poisonous waste and the petcoke mountains...ofc. treated like sex offenders today, not supposed to go within 1,000 feet of anything at all, and increasingly joints don't want you in there for lunch, or some droning, uptalking, noseringed millennial will write something ugly on your coffee cup...
If you want to stay sharp, you'll have to do it yourself. Don't be like the "maintenance man" we were kidding about today -- why would the guy even buy an 88-cent screwdriver for himself when he is charged with keeping up a 60-unit building...
"People and folks will be more at ease when
all Policemen are the same size and stature as Rahm."
12/04/2015 05:32:00 AM
Is his Private Changing Area accessible and like totally trans-everything friendly? Were any endangered species or illegally-logged rare hardwoods used? No elephant ivory or "blood diamonds" or anything?
Let's see the paperwork.
Be nice if you could ride a train without getting your phone snatched...and people's minds are being filled with this kind of thing instead.
Johnny escalante just another rahm pupet:
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/local/55840739-story
Anonymous said...
SCC, are you saying that the CPD is an untrained, unprofessional mob? Sure sounds like it.
12/04/2015 10:08:00 AM
I know it hurts but it's the truth. SCC got it right. Some private security guards have more training than us. Our training consists of watching videos during roll call which allows the department to wash their hands of future liability. What a joke.
Anonymous said...
You Don't have to be A US Citizen to be the police in ChIraq
............Now isn't that funny
Why Don't the politicians start with that issue first
12/04/2015 07:08:00 AM
I knew some good cops who worked hard to become citizens while on the job.
When one of them was sworn in we threw him a party and gave him a sweatshirt with Snoopy as Joe Cool. Only it said Joe Citizen.
How about a license for DEEEEEEEZ
Anonymous said...
SCC, are you saying that the CPD is an untrained, unprofessional mob? Sure sounds like it.
12/04/2015 10:08:00 AM
Once again, someone attempting to put something we never said into straw-man form. Which paper, TV station or gold star do you work for?
What we are saying is that training is/has/never was a priority for this Department and efforts to make even the smallest adjustment to this sad state of affairs has been met with resistance, not by the rank-and-file, but by the political masters.
You want to try again Asshat?
6:31pm.....U nervous about ur results when you drop???? Who cares if you gota test, if you re not dirty what are you complaining about, deal with it.
Well everybody say and think what you want to but if you really want to see some great police recruit training just go out to Triton College in River Grove, they do training for a lot of the suburbs and is operated by the Cook county sheriffs police training unit, there is not fooling around there, you do the training or you are out period, there is none of the stuff that happens at the CPD Academy, no not wanting to do the physical training, etc. if you can't do it they will work with you, but only to the point that the recruit just is not capable. If you don't believe me, just pop in sometime. I believe that they also train out at Morraine Valley college also. Chicago police training has declined so bad, its a wonder how the State still lets them keep their certification. Bring some qualified retirees in to teach the classes.
How about "decertifying" the Department of justice for failure to do its job and probably obstruction of justice in declaring there will be no prosecutions in the ITS scandal ! Only one of many under this Corrupt President and his criminal Justice Department. Can anyone tell me with a strait face that if this president wasn't black and Republican there wouldn't have been an impeachment already.
Once many years ago I was foolish or naive enough to bid on the ammunition contract for the Chicago Police Department.The bid was awarded to a Minority bidder whose bid was 56 cents a box more than my bid. It's all on the up and up though.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Guess those who got on this job by who they know instead of passing the test are in trouble. Look around at your role call. How many there shouldn't be on this job?
12/04/2015 06:11:00 AM
Maybe you are one of them...unless you're on Chicago PD (the show), it's roll call, not role call.
09:41 hrs - Right on target - why not have the DOJ look at where all the Federal funding went. Half the time - grants are awarded to CPD and the funds seem to never leave City Hall until they pop up in another agency. But Deputy Chief Marv Shear knows nothing about it.
12/04/2015 08:26:00 PM
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Well, I hope the DOJ looks at where all the $$$$ went too.
Marv and his friend, the gp of R&D, should both be worried about that.
Especially those Tri-River funds at the Academy. Funds that were supposed to be used for In-Service training. Funds whose paperwork went missing when the gp left.
Funds that were Never spent on training in any way, shape or form.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
In the other states that license police there are a few benefits to being licensed. Transfer to other agencies with in that state seniority and pension go with you.
12/04/2015 12:21:00 PM
Then go to another state. It doesn't work that way in Illinois
12/04/2015 05:33:00 PM
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It does not work that way anywhere.
SCC is right. We are a untrained police force. Just a step above a 3rd world country.
http://youtu.be/Wcb1VCkFll4
You tell me asshat? Then again how woukd you know what professional means?
Wow! I actually think this is the nail in the coffin. I think even the bosses will stop screaming for activity now. How scary to be the police. Who will want this job? I'd be surprised if 100 people took the test.
12/04/2015 11:57:00 AM
If you are going to be surprised if 100 people take the job, I wonder what you will be when 10,000 apply. Shocked dumfounded
12/04/2015 05:35:00 PM
10,000 may apply BUT only 100 will qualify!
As always SCC is correct.
We do not receive any training after the academy. And those that are training us at the academy are a joke. We are an untrained, undisciplined, sloppy looking, police force. Thus.....unprofessional.
Embarrassing!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Somebody once posted how to get around the Trib's wall to read stories....can someone repost that?
12/04/2015 03:52:00 AM
Google the story title and they will bring you back to if for free.
Everyone at the academy is a top notch instructor. Are credentials are stellar, many of us have masters degrees. We take pride in what we do. You should have invested in yourself instead of partying every weekend. Yea, go man that beat car and handle that domestic disturbance.
12/04/2015 05:47:00 PM
Second sentence above, "Are credentials." The word is "Our credentials are, not "Are credentials are." So much for your "stellar credentials."
Will that be like a "Double 007 license"
Licenses are for private contractors. Like Private Detectives, lawyers, doctors, plumbers etc. You pay them individually for services rendered at the completion of the work. Unless you have insurance. It is not the same for doctors & nurses at hospitals or other institutions. You now might have to be board certified in a particular area. Board certified patrol, board certified FTO, ET, Detective, Forensic Investigator or any other specialist. What a nightmare for the department. Who is going to pay for these certifying boards, and the organizations that put on professional seminars. Don't forget add in a couple of weeks for seminars and conventions of these professional organizations.
nonymous said...
The only one who cared about training was Gary Schenkel. Thank you sir.
12/04/2015 09:44:00 PM
Today, the academy is not supported by the exempts. The DC of academy does not believe in or support any discipline with recruits. Just amazing. Also, in service training is such a law priority and has been reduced to 5 minute videos. Numerous classes have been proposed and designed to enhance officer safety, firearms skills, law updates but all have been denied. Yet, procedural justice has a team of officers training every day. That shows the priority of the department. When was the last time anyone had any type of of information on law updates? McCarthy never paid attention to or even asked about the academy. BTW, how is the new stop card training? I heard the team cannot do anything right and ACLU rejects every idea. Why did they move the new training to 35th street?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Training on this department is piss poor to say the least. The academy is staffed with a pack of suck ass house mice afraid of the street. That assignment should never extend beyond 2 years tops, honestly a 1 year temporary duty assignment would be best. However they hide out down there for decades and dodge actual police work while telling other people's stories to wide eyed recruits.
LEMART and the rifle training are pretty good and about the only accessible training I would ever recommend.
Hopefully now that McCarthy is gone for better or worse, that failed abortion of a training Module "Police Legitimacy" goes with him.
Believe it or not laws change and it wouldn't hurt to have some actual training to keep people well versed on how to handle this job. Of course if they actually provided legitimate promotional opportunities maybe officers would read and study more often.
12/04/2015 11:10:00 AM
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Everyone at the academy is a top notch instructor. Are credentials are stellar, many of us have masters degrees. We take pride in what we do. You should have invested in yourself instead of partying every weekend. Yea, go man that beat car and handle that domestic disturbance.
12/04/2015 05:47:00 PM
The above rebuttal illustrates what is wrong with the academy. Because they "have masters degrees" you should respect what they have to say. What Ever Happened To Street Experienced Officers Teaching These Recruits Instead Of Over Educated Pencil Pushers Who Have No Experience To offer? I would take experience over college any day when it comes to police work. This is from a college educated officer of 29 years. You can detect the tone at the end that this person thinks they are better than the average street cop. Pure hubris and lack of humility equals an unwillingness to learn. We expect better from our academy instructors. But this is what happens when clout rules, you get in inexperienced people who think their credentials got them the job. Delusional.
Before I started reading this Blog I thought that licensing of cops would not be a bad idea. Wouldn't effect me when I was on the job, and I saw it as a way that the profession could disassociate itself from the rogue cop, fired for misconduct, and then hired in some small department somewhere and then screws up again.
But, after following this Blog for awhile, I can see why CPD officers will get F### like Hogan's goat. I never factors politics into the calculus. With licensing you will be answering to not only an apparent dysfunctioning police department, but the equally dysfunctional state government. Good luck to you all! I am glad I am retired and enjoying my hopefully secure retirement.
By-the-way, I read in this Blog cops who say they are not going to stop people and are going rogue.
I don’t think what you are doing is going rogue at all. What your mayor, and the mayor of Baltimore, wants is the cops to to continue conducting Terry stops. When the stop goes bad, then they want to be able to distance themselves from the officer. Most Terry stops are the result of minor infractions. If the violator resists arrest, then the cop is left holding the bag. Obama has taught the criminal element that they are something special and they have the right to standup and shout in face of any cops they run into. They are looking for a confrontation; don’t give them the opportunity.
If was still on the job (and I started in 1970) I wouldn’t stop anyone who I didn’t have absolute probable cause to physically arrest. Nobody is ever going to get into trouble when they report, “I didn’t think I had sufficient evidence to stop this person;” Arrest should be avoid: “Recorded the information and submitted it through the chain of command for judicial review.”
I would never ask for a consent search. You are setting yourself up for trouble. If you see a gun, take action, protect yourself, but remember the community has the right to determine what type of policing they want. Apparently in Chicago they want little or none.
Everyone at the academy is a top notch instructor. Are credentials are stellar, many of us have masters degrees. We take pride in what we do. You should have invested in yourself instead of partying every weekend. Yea, go man that beat car and handle that domestic disturbance.
Let me see. Stellar, masters degrees? ARE credentials. You geniuses must have failed basic English, goof.
Everyone at the academy is a top notch instructor. Are credentials are stellar, many of us have masters degrees. We take pride in what we do. You should have invested in yourself instead of partying every weekend. Yea, go man that beat car and handle that domestic disturbance.
12/04/2015 05:47:00 PM
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My God we can only hope this comment is dripping with sarcasm, that or you just proved exactly what is wrong with the academy. If this is in fact sarcasm, you nailed the attitude of those resume touting frauds. A Masters Degree is completely irrelevant to any police work. If this is an actual academy douche, thank you for confirming the fact that you are afraid of the street and handling a beat car or domestic. Now keep lying to the poor young recruits that have to choke down that shit for 6 months.
That Master's never taught the difference between "are" and "Our" huh?
Shows how dumb Lisa is , cops are state certified. Isn't a certification the same as a license?
To 12/04/2015 05:47pm. Once again dickwad you must be reminded that the only qualification to be an instructor in the academy is. Drum roll please........ BE A MAJOR SUCKASS. Afraid to be the real police. Show us what that piece of shitpaper can do for you on the street. I will bet you have less than 10yrs on maybe less than eight. Prove me wrong impress me that you are a wheel gun member and that you did not have that shitpaper diploma prior to pretending to be a real police officer who works the street.
Anonymous said...
In the other states that license police there are a few benefits to being licensed. Transfer to other agencies with in that state seniority and pension go with you.
12/04/2015 12:21:00 PM
Then go to another state. It doesn't work that way in Illinois
12/04/2015 05:33:00 PM
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It does not work that way anywhere.
12/05/2015 06:13:00 AM
YES, it does.
Missouri licenses its police and their license is portable. The test allows you to work almost anywhere in the state.
You can shop your resume around and apply (almost) anywhere there's an opening, with a couple of exceptions.
Those masters degrees are BS too! Get a fucking degree from a REAL U like Rockerfeller U or NU not this BS Academy phone in the grade non sense. Hey man, got the paper for this bullshit class? How about the tests? Cool, man I gets a degree now.
U know who boasted of having 2 Masters degrees? Jim Mauer.........enough said.
"We do not receive any training after the academy. And those that are training us at the academy are a joke. We are an untrained, undisciplined, sloppy looking, police force. Thus.....unprofessional.
Embarrassing!!!
12/05/2015 06:38:00 AM"
Exactly and have been for nearly 30 years, the Daley legacy followed by another incompetent Moron. The Citizens deserve better but the 50 rubber stamps only give lip service.
Why taxpaying citizens along with black lives matter don't march on Michigan ave on a daily basis is anyones guess. Divide and conquer and but dont' get in my way of getting my morning latte.Disgusting
Everyone at the academy is a top notch instructor. Are credentials are stellar, many of us have masters degrees. We take pride in what we do. You should have invested in yourself instead of partying every weekend. Yea, go man that beat car and handle that domestic disturbance.
12/04/2015 05:47:00 PM
"Are credentials", whoa Nellie. I think I have read all that I need to to know this is a troll and an incredibly stupid one at that.
Everyone at the academy is a top notch instructor. Are credentials are stellar, many of us have masters degrees. We take pride in what we do. You should have invested in yourself instead of partying every weekend. Yea, go man that beat car and handle that domestic disturbance.
12/04/2015 05:47:00 PM
All those degrees and you still can't figure out the difference between our and are? Goes to show that your "degree" you got from the same "university" that every copper goes to, because the classes are easy and taught to their level, isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Try a real school next time junior.
"...Everyone at the Academy is a top notch investigator..."
Please report to the Random Drug Testing Unit, 3510 S. Michigan Ave.
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