Turnabout
- The police officer who shot and killed teenager Quintonio LeGrier on the day after Christmas will sue LeGrier’s estate.
Officer [...] answered a domestic disturbance call in West Garfield Park and wound up shooting LeGrier and a neighbor, he says, because LeGrier attacked him.
[...] attorney Joel Brodsky confirmed for WGN-TV this morning that he’ll file a civil suit against LeGrier’s estate in a couple of weeks, citing emotional distress and assault.
Police have sued assailants in past cases and won substantial judgements. Perhaps this would dissuade the city from making hasty settlement officers that only encourage and exacerbate the "ghetto lottery" culture. Well played Officer.
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posted by SCC at 12:33 AM
83 Comments:
Its about time someone grew a pair. If the City fought some of this crap they would get some respect. There would be less lawsuits filed by the catered to constituency.
Avg Citizen here.
How often do the city attorneys settle rather than fight cases? From an outsiders perspective, it certainly seems like they settle frequently. Now, whether the person was guilty or not is irrelevant to the ignorant public, because when the city pays out, the public isnt viewing as "Oh, they would rather settle and save court costs and move the process along". Its being viewed as "You KNEW you did something wrong, and now you are paying out because the cop was GUILTY!!"
I know its essentially an open checkbook, since the taxpayers are footing the bill, but I would like to see some of these attorneys fight something for a change. Take a stand and show the taxpayers that you have a spine. Although the legal fight may be more expensive, it will show people that they have to start taking accountability for their actions and cant just assume you can get some criminal defense attorney to sue every time you dont like how an officer looked at you the wrong way, as you were committing a felony.
Im personally glad that this officer, who likely has had his world flipped upside down, is going to sue the family (Im guessing the city attorneys are going to face a lawsuit from the "family" of LeGrier, get paid out, and then the innocent woman's family can hopefully sue them for her death due to the actions of the kid who attacked the cop with the bat) for assault and emotional distress. Maybe it will dissuade people (re: thugs/animals/criminals) from assaulting and/or bringing violence to any officers in the future.
Im sure that a lawsuit against someone who is broke is pretty much worthless, but this will at least send a message of some sort. Good luck to him.
Horsefeathers
Good strategy.
But he only looks to gain a slighty used baseball bat that was only dropped once!
well if that's that case, I was to check the statute of limitations on all the bull shit calls I've gone to in the past 15 years. I'm emotionally distressed. Pay me.
To those of you encouraging doing nothing remember this. Not stopping anyone encourages them to do whatever they want. Then sooner or later they start shooting at the police. Then some of us start getting hit and killed. So realize the repercussions of your fetalness. Just saying.
Awesome !!
I wish him best of luck and I hope he wins.
A taste of their own medicine !
Very good officer, hope you hit the ghetto lottery on them. Now it would be nice to see the retired detectives who locked up anthony porter sue him, david protess, Northwesterns Medill school of journalism and goof detective who fabricated evidence to get alstory simon convicted. There has to be some former states attorneys looking for work.
Let's create a new cottage industry suing those who injure or slander police officers.
Go for it! People need to fight Lawfare with Lawfare!
Hope he wins. How much is their "estate" worth? Doesn't matter. As long as there is a judgement, there is a victory for the police against the socialist give-me-a-handout crowd.
I hope he wins. Good luck, officer.
Very well played. Thatd be a huge turn of events. Good luck officer.
Will they mention that "Mom told him to stop taking his meds?"
I like it!
With the way the courts hate Cpd, I am sure this will be dismissed.... Not that I am police hating--- this is reality of the business
Fire with fire. They don't play by the rules, ever. Whether it's life in general to get something for nothing, or using any legal ghetto lottery move to get something for nothing. I remember the days when politicians were scared shitless of decent, law-abiding tax payers. Not any more, The person who has the power now is the one who has a press conference in the lawyers office. It's the person with the biggest mouth. It's about time police start playing the same game.
Who speaks for you? Nobody. Put together a crew of pro-police righteous lawyers who aren't owned by anyone and can't be bought and have them out in front of the cameras representing logic, law and common sense after all the other assholes are done flapping their useless jaws. Force the media to present some perspective into their reporting and make the bottom feeders think twice because they know someone is going to be there for you to back them off the base.
Rules were designed to give you rights. Rules are not supposed to be twisted to hurt decent people or used against you. Stop playing by the rules. It doesn't work anymore. You may have one Superintendent, but your department is being run by many people with different agendas. The Communists (ACLU), Politicians, Aldermen, The Mayor, IPRA, the ghetto lottery attorneys, "Reverends" protecting their banger constituents. ALL have one way or another wormed their way into the CPD hierarchy for their own personal political or financial gain. ALL are influencing policy without any regard for your contract or what is right, just or morally defensible. And what you have is chaos. Take advantage of the chaos.
When you guys go down, society goes down.
-just a supporter.
Lowering the standards of society. Lowering the standards of what is acceptable. Lowering the standards. Little by little.
It is now legal to piss and shit on the streets of New York City.
Think about that for a minute.
What a great strategy! Dead boy's estate probably consists of 2 pair of Jordan's, and maybe a rusty old .22. But once the city coughs up the settlement, BAM! Reverse ghetto Lottery!
Best of luck to the officer involved! hope you collect a nice sum of money for your distress over this event. stay safe and stay fetal to go home to your families and pets.
I have to question the judgment of anyone who hires Joel Brodsky as their lawyer.
This is awesome. This should become the new thing. Sue them right back. Hopefully he's suing for the ghetto lotto there about to win.
Booya!!
OT...good luck, 025. You're gonna need it!
I sued a guy once and I was awarded 100k, bad news is he only has to pay me a dollar a year over the next hundred thousand years.
I applaud this officers decision to sue the estate of Quintonio LeGrier. The 'fathers' decision to churn his dead son's death into millions horrifies me. Quintonio LeGrier was a ward of the state, that officer, everyone who works, pays taxes, supported Quintonio LeGrier through his childhood. The mother was an abusive monster, and that sperm donor 'father' left his little child to be tortured and abused. The officer did nothing wrong, I do believe the officers life was in danger. Since the officer has been named, I'm sure there are threats and his life has become a living nightmare. All the officer did was protect himself and others from an abandoned, angry individual wielding a baseball bat. The officer did his job. This is a tragedy on so many levels and the officer's actions, fighting back, clearing his reputation by bringing a lawsuit, has been ridiculed in the press as frivolous. I believe his actions are heroic.
From now on there will only be one officer armed with a firearm in the car. The other with have a Taser. End the shooting liability.
I sued after a car accident on the Dan ryan. Dude was charged with a 501 by state. He beat it at the Daley center but lost big time to me at civil.
This is an awesome move by the officer. Any judgement awarded to the family could potentially be paid back to the officer.
Is the city going to go after the PO for this? I hope he wins. The father was on the news playing victim as usual.
Some of us asked for this decades ago, and the FOP back then cited something called the Fireman's Exemption, which basically states something to the effect that if you accept the First Responder Job, you assume that you may be injured, killed etc. However, some states have made exceptions, and the issue of negligence and Criminal Conduct can change the game. For example, if a building is in violation of codes, and the owner knows it, and now a firefighter dies fighting a fire in the building, the family can sue for wrongful death. The issue here is by ignoring the violations you have committed a crime, or are in contempt of court. So, if someone is committing a crime, coming at you with a bat is an Aggravated Assault; and you shoot them to survive, and avoid Death or Great Bodily Harm, YOU, the Officer are in fact a victim. What the FOP and their attorneys for years have failed to "Accept" is that Cops are the victims in OIS situations! When we took the job we accepted the danger and potential for injury or even death; but we did not give up our right to defend ourselves and SURVIVE! Anyone who wants to be a punching bag or a target is welcome to be, though I hope you are not working with and endangering a partner. Otherwise, as Human Beings, cops have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and hopefully compensation to be made Whole Again, following being Victims. This litigation may be a Game Changer, and the Officer and most of all his attorney(s) have balls, and I wish them success in this pursuit of justice for every cop. Baby"G"
Impressive about time an officer takes the BS seriously!
Leverage is what this is all about. Shooter family going for the ghetto lottery now have to defend and fight for the cash.
FOP should seriously consider this as standard procedure even if they have to farm it out to HACK lawyers.
Now this is wonderful news, hello deano wake up stop letting us be played! rahm your pandering must stop, you have finally an intelligent officer who is not allowing you and your team of elected morons to drag this officer through the mud of your media manipulation! Ok 50 stand up support this officer! Johnny you and the goldstar crew,chuck $350.00 per hour ramsey in side car step in and speak out the time is now, a 9161 blue shirt took the lead as a leader should now will you finally support him? support us? Big men make big moves are you john a 3 star or 4 star?
Great job officer thank you for your military service, thank you for standing up Semper Fi Marine!
I want that guy's lawyer. Not those political hacks from corporation counsel or FOP. A lawyer with trial experience and not just throwing money away to settle a case.
Joel Brodsky of Drew Peterson fame see how well it worked out for him
This should be the norm. Police officers are victims every day. Screw these ghetto lottery rats. The City pays out millions to them so why not take some away and pay the real victims.
Follow this one closely
Police have rights too. Hard to believe he is the first police officer to do this. Should have been done a long time ago. And should turn into a movement because NO employer, private or public, should be allowed to tie the hands of their workers. Everyone, no matter what position they hold, should be forced to subject themselves to an unfair advantage by any other person, group, or entity OR intimidated to engage in any form of subservient behavior that can or will be ultimately used against them.
Finally seeing how this works?
Love,
Saul A.
About time. He should file against all of the media also.
Excellent!! And about time. Having to take someone's life is no small matter -- No matter Who You Are!!
(As **someone** once said: " It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." )
Add in the factor that in this case one is completely by accident and never would have happened if not for the actions of one asshole with a baseball bat.
I love it, great thinking officer!
Out-fucking-standing!!!!
Awesome, we'll played officer.
Good for the copper to fight back against Quintono's lawyer and those asshole comments he's made
Good for the officer. I hope that he will be able to get medical records about the deceased, including any substances in his bloodstream.
Maybe I'm paranoid, but I have been suspicious of the father based on the speed with which he found a lawyer. This was a father who did not raise his son, the kid having chosen to stay with his foster mother instead of living with his sperm donor. The court allowed that, apparently until he was 18. The kid does well, finishes high school, gets admitted to an engineering program in college.
Then, he starts staying with the old man on weekends, begins having problems with the police and others in his college town. I know that schizophrenia often appears in late adolescence, or that he could have been ingesting substances with his friends.
But it could also be that the old man gave him drugs with or without the kid's knowledge, savoring the thought of a huge payout like McDonald's so-called family.
Bout time. Get a judgement on the ghetto lottery the fifty fools will approve.
Wow, really glad to hear this. It's about time there's so backlash to what these offenders--and their families-- put the officers through.
Van dyke should file a law suit against McDonald family . They have $4,900,000 , look at stress it caused him and his family , Lost job , charged with murder because this child was abandoned by family , put in foster care . The way the kid was slicing police tires , threatening officers with a knife , refusing to drop knife .
Really , it is possible suicide by cop scenario .
Full support for this officer. May he win big and set a strong precedent.
Interesting. Did the boy have a trust fund because of a medical malpractice issue that he will receive at 21? Or is it that the boy's estate will sue the city, the city will pay, and then the boys estate has to pay the officer because of the officers suit?
What is the back story?
Good for the copper, lets turn it back on the people. Lets hold the families accountable for their negligence regarding the mental and criminal welfare of their babies.
WELL DONE !
'bout time ...
ABCD
ABCD (Ret)
Cannot make a rock bleed.. It's going be almost impossible to collect anything from the now deceased's so called estate.
Citizen here.
If you are attempting a lawsuit for this, I certainly hope that you use THE BEST ATTORNEY that can be afforded. I would strongly recommend even a gofundme being set up to donate. You do not want a bargain attorney when this type of case could affect many in the future.
Also, the head of your FOP, whenever I see him in the media, seems like a meek, already-retired-in-his-mind, puppet. In terms of PR, you guys are getting destroyed. The ignorant masses (and Im sure you all see the absurdity being posted in social media) are eating up all the smear campaigns and buying into every piece of crap website and blog that is looking for page views. You guys actually paying INTO the FOP for THAT kind of representation? ouch....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I sued a guy once and I was awarded 100k, bad news is he only has to pay me a dollar a year over the next hundred thousand years.
1/30/2016 07:22:00 AM
I think that's the Polish lottery, not the ghetto lottery.
When you win, don't spend that $57.00 all in one place.
A few years ago in Ohio and senior citizen was the victim of a home invasion. Cops arrive and kill the offender. the senior citizen very quietly filed a law suit against the deceased. When the ghetto lottery check was cashed, the money had to go to the elderly citizen as the deceased family lost the judgement.
They were miffed. The woman gave the money to the cops.....................
In every shooting, officers must file a lawsuit... you know the savage family will
Most def "But it could also be that the old man gave him drugs with or without the kid's knowledge, savoring the thought of a huge payout like McDonald's so-called family."
To those of you encouraging doing nothing remember this. Not stopping anyone encourages them to do whatever they want. Then sooner or later they start shooting at the police. Then some of us start getting hit and killed. So realize the repercussions of your fetalness. Just saying.
1/30/2016 01:11:00 AM
It's the media,Hollywood, politicians, and community organizer in the White House that encourage them to do whatever they want.
-----------Better call Saul-------
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good for the officer. I hope that he will be able to get medical records about the deceased, including any substances in his bloodstream.
Maybe I'm paranoid, but I have been suspicious of the father based on the speed with which he found a lawyer. This was a father who did not raise his son, the kid having chosen to stay with his foster mother instead of living with his sperm donor. The court allowed that, apparently until he was 18. The kid does well, finishes high school, gets admitted to an engineering program in college.
Then, he starts staying with the old man on weekends, begins having problems with the police and others in his college town. I know that schizophrenia often appears in late adolescence, or that he could have been ingesting substances with his friends.
But it could also be that the old man gave him drugs with or without the kid's knowledge, savoring the thought of a huge payout like McDonald's so-called family.
1/30/2016 11:02:00 AM
He was prescribed PSYCH MEDS, by a physician.
His mother stated she told him to stop taking them.
There you go; a non-conspiracy theory.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
From now on there will only be one officer armed with a firearm in the car. The other with have a Taser. End the shooting liability.
1/30/2016 07:34:00 AM
And from now on, one will drive and one will run alongside the car,
Good for the officer. I hope that he will be able to get medical records about the deceased, including any substances in his bloodstream.
Maybe I'm paranoid, but I have been suspicious of the father based on the speed with which he found a lawyer. This was a father who did not raise his son, the kid having chosen to stay with his foster mother instead of living with his sperm donor. The court allowed that, apparently until he was 18. The kid does well, finishes high school, gets admitted to an engineering program in college.
Then, he starts staying with the old man on weekends, begins having problems with the police and others in his college town. I know that schizophrenia often appears in late adolescence, or that he could have been ingesting substances with his friends.
But it could also be that the old man gave him drugs with or without the kid's knowledge, savoring the thought of a huge payout like McDonald's so-called family.
1/30/2016 11:02:00 AM
Ok, YOU are not paranoid, you're delusional. And you have not been following this story. Kid initially went to Eastern, at time of death on the bubble at Northern for the same bullshit (fighting with police). Psych history. Mom told him not to take meds. Let's keep up shall we?
Fucking Fantastic, Bravo Office!!
To those of you encouraging doing nothing remember this. Not stopping anyone encourages them to do whatever they want. Then sooner or later they start shooting at the police. Then some of us start getting hit and killed. So realize the repercussions of your fetalness. Just saying.
I understand what you are saying, however, I must RESPECTFULLY disagree...to a point.
I believe that those whom are willing to shoot at the police are hardened to the core at birth. No amount of love or affection will ever change that. They are ticking time bombs waiting to go off. The good thing is, they are very rare.
Most of our encounters are with uneducated, coward, pussies. They were born that way, and they will always be that. I don't believe hands off policing will change them into a hardened police killer. Hopefully...I am right.
The ghetto-lottery-players are about to realize that suing and/or settlements can go both ways. They need to get their sh*t in order and their Honor Students walking a straight line. Or somebody, somewhere, just may hold them personally responsible for said sh*t and Honor Students. Best of luck to the Officer!
Go get em Office
If the attorney can be successful this will certainly set a precedence for the future.
I've said before that attorneys have filed judgements on many reckless individuals for traffic accidents and simple negligence cases.
I was at a depo for a traf accident I handled, the attorney suing joe in a personal injury case, said you never know what somebody owns, may inherit or wins in a lottery one day. Turns out dude had multiple 3 flats hidden in his assets. The judgement gets paid one way or another and dude is going to have to liquidate and settle.
Even OJ was sued for wrongful death and it prevented him from future riches.
Go for it, for any reason. It's a great payback against these lizards.
I hope it works out and he keeps us updated.
From now on there will only be one officer armed with a firearm in the car. The other with have a Taser. End the shooting liability.
1/30/2016 07:34:00 AM
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STOP THIS INSANITY!!!!!!
What is wrong in Chicago? Seriously, what is wrong there?
You must be importing and drinking the water from Flint, MI.
EVERY Cop should be well-armed. That means MORE than just a side-arm. Shotguns, AR-15s - ALL should be in the trunk and/or on a rack.
Chicago is a War Zone. You DON'T win wars with Tasers.
(OT) just went to see movie about Benghazi 13 hours phenomenal and a true story, you can see what politicians like Obama and Hillary go have done to America turning their backs as Americans were killed May God bless these heroes. I'm say ing that to say this the elected and gold star elite have attempted to throw this officer to the wolves and media hoards, this brave officer Marine veteran took a stand Rahman will you and your crew stand with him? Or will you pander again to the dredge of society? May God bless this officer Semper Fi brother E-6
Van dyke should file a law suit against McDonald family . They have $4,900,000 , look at stress it caused him and his family , Lost job , charged with murder because this child was abandoned by family , put in foster care . The way the kid was slicing police tires , threatening officers with a knife , refusing to drop knife .
Really , it is possible suicide by cop scenario .
Good luck with that...video shows a different version of the 'threatening officers' claim you're touting here. Van Dyke has so much trouble coming down the legal pipeline that suing McDonald's family should be the least on his mind (or Herbert's) right now.
Love how the community uprising was strong for the bat swinging mental and the actual innocent lady, whose death should be on the head of the mentals father, that they burglarized her apartment.
You wonder why people keep you down and think your a joke, you bring it on yourselves. I will continue to work for the good people stuck in these shit areas because there are plenty of you out there.
St Michael pray for us.....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) just went to see movie about Benghazi 13 hours phenomenal and a true story, you can see what politicians like Obama and Hillary go have done to America turning their backs as Americans were killed May God bless these heroes. I'm say ing that to say this the elected and gold star elite have attempted to throw this officer to the wolves and media hoards, this brave officer Marine veteran took a stand Rahman will you and your crew stand with him? Or will you pander again to the dredge of society? May God bless this officer Semper Fi brother E-6
1/30/2016 10:12:00 PM
The beginning of the movie states "BASED ON ACTUAL EVENTS"
Please do yourself a favor and read the book(s) on this subject if you want to know the full truth. It will shed even more light on the Democratic coverup.
I get the gist of what you're saying, honestly I do, but by coming to a conclusion from watching a movie..? Well, IMO, that is the same mentality that brought us the ghetto lottery culture and this newest and most current media attack on the police. Too many people believe what they see on TV or in the theatre.
Remember, Hollywood is also controlled by an Emmanuel...
Ok, YOU are not paranoid, you're delusional. And you have not been following this story. Kid initially went to Eastern, at time of death on the bubble at Northern for the same bullshit (fighting with police). Psych history. Mom told him not to take meds. Let's keep up shall we?
1/30/2016 05:50:00 PM
YOU have not been following either....
He went to NORTHERN, not Eastern.
And do not call me the Spell Check Police, or try to say it was the "damn auto-correct".
Facts matter, know them.
He was prescribed PSYCH MEDS, by a physician.
His mother stated she told him to stop taking them.
There you go; a non-conspiracy theory.
Well mom, he obviously did! Sue her also.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Cannot make a rock bleed.. It's going be almost impossible to collect anything from the now deceased's so called estate.
1/30/2016 12:59:00 PM
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Unless they sue the city and win, of course.
Ok, YOU are not paranoid, you're delusional. And you have not been following this story. Kid initially went to Eastern, at time of death on the bubble at Northern for the same bullshit (fighting with police). Psych history. Mom told him not to take meds. Let's keep up shall we?
1/30/2016 05:50:00 PM
YOU have not been following either....
He went to NORTHERN, not Eastern.
And do not call me the Spell Check Police, or try to say it was the "damn auto-correct".
Facts matter, know them.
1/31/2016 08:17:00 AM
Beg to differ, but he went to Eastern THEN Northern. Google it. He's listed as an incoming freshman at Eastern.
Why don't the businesses on North Michigan ave sue the City, mayor, and CPD for failing to protect them from violent protesters?
Hmmmm...alot of this still seems to stem from black ghetto's in this country like Englewood are pretty much un policable. Can't really say if lawsuits like this will fix anything in the long run. Notice the attitude against police officers is insanely without end.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What a great strategy! Dead boy's estate probably consists of 2 pair of Jordan's, and maybe a rusty old .22. But once the city coughs up the settlement, BAM! Reverse ghetto Lottery!
1/30/2016 06:56:00 AM.
You forgot the bat. That's got to b worth at least $20.
Fed-up said...
From now on there will only be one officer armed with a firearm in the car. The other with have a Taser. End the shooting liability.
1/30/2016 07:34:00 AM
This isn't amateur night you incompetent moron. Its midnight and you should have been in bed long ago. Leave the conversation to the adults.
AM 560 Dan Proft, the loser Governor candidate and non-practicing lawyer slammed Officer Rialmo's civil attorney on radio this morning claiming that he, Proft, new that the 'cop' was too far away from the perp to have been at risk of harm from the perp. The lawyer hung-up on Proft and Proft said that he couldn't take it. Proft and his ilk will never understand and do not care what police officers have to endure on the streets.
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