Bullshit Survey
Talk about your agenda-driven writing, this "survey" is a prime example:
- A Tribune poll released Wednesday shows that Chicago has a terrible problem with police-citizen relations: Most Chicagoans — 70 percent of all respondents — said they don't believe police officers treat all citizens fairly. Nearly as many — 64 percent — said cover-ups and a code of silence in the Chicago Police Department are widespread problems.
Really? And how many of these respondents have actually had contact with the police recently? We'd hate to assume that they're making this sort of judgement based solely on the media coverage these past few months.
- The MacDonald video - the move to "suppress" it until after an election - that choice wasn't made by anyone in the Department not wearing a gold star;
- The lack of audio is a direct result of shitty equipment with zero maintenance performed by ill-equipped staff due to the city going with a low-bid. Not a single decision there was made by anyone in the Department below the rank of Deputy;
- The December shooting of an assailant with a bat that resulted in the tragic death of an innocent is something every cop we've spoken with regrets immensely. Every single officer hopes it never happens to us. But it was by all accounts an accident. That isn't the fault of thousands of coppers who do a great job day-in-and-day-out;
- Koschman wasn't perpetrated by anyone driving a patrol car or working in a District or even working in Patrol. That was a political decision made by political people. You think it's a coincidence that multiple merit promotees left before being fired? That a clouted lieutenant who beat a sex abuse case out-of-state was in a position to make decisions driving the entire investigation and in fact, removed files from the Area so they couldn't be found for months?
- The decades worth of decisions to "settle at any cost" instead of fighting cases in court where evidence could be presented not only justifying, but clearing false accusations against officers wasn't made at the levels we work. J-Fled (of all people) proved you can put plaintiff attorneys in a financial bind by fighting the nonsense cases and putting scumbags on notice that the City will come after them for costs when they lose. Rahm wasted no time in returning to the days of "settle everything." Otherwise he wouldn't get all those political contributions spread throughout the Machine.
Did the Tribune perchance show any of the survey respondents this graphic?
Or mentioned the fact that of the 2,995 people catching bullets in Chicago last year, only 25 were shot by the police, which works out to eighty-three-point-five hundredths of a percent - not even one-full-percent.
But police are the problem and not the political structure they work under? We think the Tribune is asking the wrong questions, but if Rahm tells them he needs cover in order to "govern," well, we guess the Tribune is going to ask "How High Mr. Mayor?"
But police are the problem and not the political structure they work under? We think the Tribune is asking the wrong questions, but if Rahm tells them he needs cover in order to "govern," well, we guess the Tribune is going to ask "How High Mr. Mayor?"
Labels: media, un-fucking-believable
129 Comments:
after almost a lifetime of having home delivery of the Tribune.. First in my parent's house as a child and later as an adult I cancelled my subscription to that rag. My aunt hated them when her husband lost his job due to a labor dispute 25 years or so ago I enjoyed getting the paper, but... Fuck them.
Stop showing facts. Facts are something that trib reporters have never seen.
Love to see the breakdown of who these "respondents" were. Also, how about a survey asking how unbiased and honest Chicago's "media" is. Maybe you should run a survey here SCC and see how readers opinions here are.
Rip to dean Angelos fop career. You pretty much sealed it today dean. Hope Jr has no aspirations of running for anything in the future because he's done too. You and the Angelo fop associates made a ton of enemies tonight. You screwed up dean. Good luck with your future endeavors
Rahm is 100% the blame.
It all falls on his watch.
He didn't release the tape and had the office on the desk, so he could sweep it under the rug and get reelected.
He didn't do anything with the cover up with Daily, because he is friends with Daily and half the officers were gold stars and the other half are friends of gold stars, a bunch of merit hacks.
The public looks at all this and sees it as we are all corrupt.
Rahm agreed with the ACLU and this was Rahm's agreement, the ACLU didn't make up this form set. It was a joint effort.
Rahm was on vacation and just wanted to know the media's reaction.
Rahm, Rahm, Rahm
I could just keep going on with this. But it's obvious Rahm has us in this mess!
I wouldn't wipe my ass with either of the newspapers in Chicago .
These newspaper surveys are always crap but they'll pass it off as some kind of fact. Aren't they out of business yet?
This damn, wrong headed, wrong thinking city better get this 'Against the Police' crap under control quickly or every decent minded person living or working or visiting here will be open to being killed, robbed, raped, burglarized or kidnapped at any point of the day or night, winter or summer. Wake up we Fools...get your head out of the water...we are on thin ice. Chicago Police Officers are the Best of the Bunch...respect them, don't kill them physically and emotionally. Pandering Politicians are an immoral, disgraceful people...ethics and professionalism are out the door. Better they never were a success at everyone's expense.
The blame for all of it falls on the elected politicians in this most corrupt city,state,county! The exempt ranks should all be demoted immediately for this political collaboration! You constantly piss on the lowly non-connected blue shirts and tell us it's raining, looks like a hail storm a tornado is coming for you that have done this "the chickens have come home to roost" to quote obamas rev. Did you think you were forgotten?
SCC, I normally agree with most of the things you write and this is a great forum to find out what's going on in this department. What is REALLY going on in this department.
With this particular post, I agree with most of what you say except for the problems with the audio. Sure, some break and the department takes months or never to even fix it. However, I have found most coppers are to blame for the lack of audio. The purposely put the mic's in the trunk, in the glove compartment, take the batteries out or outright destroy them. They don't go missing from the vehicles by themselves. They didn't all end up on the roof of the 16th district by accident.
Everything else on this post I agree on, but the audio part is just something coppers do thinking they are protecting themselves. We can be our own worst enemy. I actually use the car camera's to my benefit and have had many frustrations finding a car with a working mic or even having a mic. The video's itself is another topic for another day.
Was this survey taken at 26&Cal???
Why do us citizens think this way?
I think you hit it on the head. We do not differentiate between your corrupt city government and police leadership; and police officers on the street. You are all one big wall of blue to us on the outside.
Please start fighting back. Show us you want a professional police department.
Get the FOP to call out the corrupt leaders.
If the video or audio is not working, down the car. Make your supervisor order you to use a substandard car.
If you go along to get along, you are enabling the corrupt machine.
It will take a long time to restore trust that Rahm and the corrupt machine threw away.
You are unlikely to see it happen before you retire.
I see all of this bullshit anti-police rhetoric eventually turning around and biting this city right in the ass BIG TIME! When the Police throw their hands up and just say fuck it! You prefer wolves over sheep dogs??? OK you can have it. Thats when Michigan Ave and a few other nice places begin to burn. I and many of my fellow brothers and sisters will enjoy watching the spectacle and try putting this Genie back in the bottle. LOL!!!!!!!
You can make a poll say anything you want. The problem citizens now have is the loss of caring for the very people the police serve every day. Cops can do the very minimum or go out every day giving 100% serving the people of this city. The Thug politicians and reverends have just about destroyed the trust and respect that police and citizens once had for each other. Chicago is finished. This will become a lawless town that will see good honest citizens fleeing city. We are fast becoming Detroit.
Again, this would be an opportune time for our illustrious FLOP to make a statement and offer up to the general public statistics as shown/cited here.
Perhaps tell our side via ad space, making the rounds on forums like 'At Issue' or 'Chicago Tonight' or again organizing a march around Shitty Hall.
Oh, wait. Disability Doctuh Deano is too busy soliciting funds to cover his doggy's surgery.
Even our President thinks police are the problem, as well as his justice department.
In the end, blaming the police will not help Rahm. It will only lower morale and drive passive behavior on the part of officers since they don't want to be hung out to dry for doing their jobs. Shootings and killings will skyrocket and people will really revolt (not just a few paid BLM astroturf protesters).
If a neighborhood thinks racist police are the problem, they should be given to choices:
1) pull all of the police out of their neighborhood.
2) assign police to the neighborhood that match the racial makeup of the neighborhood. if not enough police are available, then deputize a concerned citizen.
"Best bought and paid for media in the country" should be the banner.
Don't believe it, Trib is agenda driven, just think about all of the anti-police headlines, crappy one sided interviews.
Bunch of kids following the scanners & regurgitating the ignorant scum on scene as 'voice on the street'
Hang in there, hundreds of thousands of taxpayers believe in you.
That said, stay fetal.
God blrss
NaC
Typical slanted, leading, Alinskyite ass-pull.
Only the most rapturously and willfully ignorant of
mis-mothered fucks will assign any weight to
this intentionally jiggered survey.
Bullshit?
You give too much credit, SCC...
At least Bullshit has redeeming value as fertilizer.
Dog shit is an apt descriptive.
Geez, what else can anyone say to your rebuttal? The nature of the survey and therefore the results simply violate most standards intregral to achieving a fact based result. Anyone should trust a Tribune survey? The result; a stupid survey put together by stupid, purported journalists again makes the New Chicago Tribune look something more like fish wrap than the Pulitzer winner of the olden days. I especially chuckle when their editorial staff bemoans people who generalize about racial issues for their racisim to the point that the new Trib does not often mention the race of suspects in articles. However they will cast a broad shadow of generalization of the police or other groups when it suits their agenda to make a point they want accepted by readers. They are indeed ignorant hypocrits.
Wouldn't have known about this 'survey' if I hadn't read it here. Cancelled sub to that rag months ago. Slum times, years ago.
Get news online. Myriad of sources.
Admit to not watching TV news at all. Ever. Any of them. They create & perpetuate stories that fit an agenda & sell. Not journalism as I once knew it.
Pay no mind to that crap (consider the source) & be safe. You are respected & admired for your daily sacrifices.
NAC
They only reported the opinion of the people who responded to their survey, i.e. the people who have a problem with the police. They didn't report how many people thought the survey was BS (or were too busy raising their family) and didn't bother responding. Gotta love statistics.
They are stacking the deck against the police.
Fuck the Tribune, tell your family and friends to quit buying that rag and turn
off Wgn owned by the same assholes.
It is time for the mayor to leave.
Leading questions from another yellow journalism bullshit Chicago rag. What do you expect? How about another survey? Ask how safe people feel lately now that the ACLU has literally tied the police down on paperwork for hours for stopping criminals about to commit crimes. How safe do they feel with over two thousand people being shot by, wait for it, blacks for whom lives don't matter?
Fuck off and enjoy the city you voted for. You'll have a fun year with the criminals you love so much running around unchecked preying on you at will. Take a fucking poll then and see what you get you ungrateful mother fuckers.
Fuck the crooked scumbag media, real,accurate journalism died YEARS ago, they are in the same category as tabloids. Just stories...
So...
Is it safe to say that there actually IS an ongoing war
on the Police in this town?
Or will the Joyful Haters shout from the cheap seats:
"You mere public servants need to stop complaining,
get back to work and stop thinking so much of yourselves."
Heh...
Next thing you know they"ll wax rhapsodic about the hundreds
of thousands of people they're just dying to replace us with for half the pay,
none of the benefits and all of the current risks.
And they keep stretching the current application deadline because
everyone sees a Police career in Chicago as a L.E. Flying Dutchman.
Nothing but grinning skeletons littering the decks and tangled in the rigging...
>Reflexive Hands-Over-Eyes-In-Horror at the sight<
"GYAAH-HAH!
Man! Be a Chicago Cop?
Y'all high!"
Just y'all wait until "Da Communerty" REALLY gets up in Rahm's ass
like cheap tissue... He'll give away his family members he's just that
desperate and out of answers.
Enter:
Foo-Boo (Trademark Considerations an' shit ;^) Policing!
For Us. ("Da Communerty") By Us.
And hell no, they're NOT going to relinquish the lion's share
of CPD presence and coverage they've been given.
Why, those Coppers might trickle back to the decent areas
and protect the taxpayers from the Dude Inc. raiding parties
presently doing what comes natural.
The rest of everybody else who aren't them, is hung
on the business end of a hearty "Fuckyaw!"
This shit is as simple as Mutual of Omaha's "Wild Kingdom."
M/Fers given license by elected officialdom to be predators
WILL DO SO!"
Don't be shy good citizens, ask one of these m/fers why he does
what he do while he's gettin' up in your buzzy-door with you at
gun-point.
Or scampering up your down spout...
Since The Police are so bad and terrible,
entertain us with your problem solving skillset
as you come eyeball to eyeball with that which is
truly ugly, vicious, remorseless and unmerciful.
We too old, too large, too mean, too intimidating, too quick with
our heavy fists, boots and pistols, 3rd/4th/5th generation,
full of "Mt. Greenwood" blue collar, Catholic School footballer/wrestler anger for no good reason (nod to the trolling, light-in-the loafers, never had to fight for their lives, soft-handed, north suburban newsies) Cops, want to tag out and see what the rest of everybody else is made of...
Smile!
Realize and recognize that every living ass is now equally in danger.
What are YOU ALL going to do about it besides shout joyously over
The Police being driven into a corner?
Does anyone really care anymore? ??
Yea, keep vilifying the police as black crime continues to soar. Bizarre thought process. Any wonder why good people keep their distance from you.
I just did my own survey, 100 percent of pollsters agree when I put words in their mouth that the Tribune sucks !
Time immemorial. Chaos crime and civil disorder wherever they dwell.
This is not like the 100% satisfaction at the Wendy's drive thru. We don't give u food. Unlike a UPS driver that brings u a package, a doctor that cures your syphilis, or a government worker that gives u a free Obama phone. We arrest people, give tickets and impound cars. That does not make people happy. It's the nature of the job.
My other home is in central Wisconsin. No problems with the police. Guns kept in most homes like works of art displayed on dining walls and in glass cases. Think maybe due to how people act, how they were raised.
The truth is always kept from the blind sheep.
Those that took that survey must want more people murdered....
What areas of the city was this survey taken? Never heard of so called "survey" where I live in the city. I believe the area of the city where I live the numbers would be drastically different in favor of the Chicago Police Department. Just more police pounding bullshit from this failing so called rag of a newspaper.
U.S. NEWSWEEK
Crime Wave in Chicago, With 51 Murdered in January
By Polly Mosendz On 2/1/16
Stay fetal.
SCC, you do an invaluable service to the working men and women of this department by not only posting excellent commentaries such as this, but giving us a forum for our own ideas and experiences.
Your analysis of current events is always dead on target, you respond with facts and logic to media misinformation concerning the job we do, and you shine a light onto the shameless corruption of the political machine of this city that costs tax payers in so many ways, from having incompetent or flat out criminal bosses in all departments to hiring practices, settlements, laws, etc.
The street officers of Chicago owe you a debt for being our advocate. But I'm sure your blog continues to be a thorn in the side of the higher ranks of CPD, who are nothing more or less than of the same political class as the aldermen, judges, and bosses in other city departments. We salute you.
How about this survey----we were told in the squad policing districts that the department has an e-learning survey as to whether we like the squad policing or do not. This can be found on e-learning and all questionnaires are confidential. WTF is this BULLSHIT! They didn't ask us about squad policing when we were made to take it on, actually it screwed up our furloughs and the holidays at the end of the year till a lot of people beefed to the union. Also our union never came out to the masses to notify the members that we were going to be involved and that this was in the works. So why now is the department so concerned now? They don't give a rats ass what happens and our input falls on deaf ears! Again we will be fucked because 2016 furloughs have been picked, we lost a partner on a 3 man car and will have to again go back to that system along with repacking D.O.G.'s.....This place is ass backwards...
Neither local rag will let the facts get in the way of their constant, blatant anti police agenda.
The fact that puppet master Rahm expects and wants it is just icing on the cake to them.
When did you think the media would ever print the truth, there is no honor when it comes to the press.
Anyone who thinks Rahm is going to leave is sadly mistaken. His boss is in his farewell tour and has stated that he plans to do as much as possible to further his "Fundamental Transformation of America" in the final 12 months of his reign. BO needs Rahm and all the other obedient progressive mayors of democrat-controlled cities to remain in place stirring up the populace by whatever means necessary. And that would include the the totally complicit media, both print and electronic, to come up with bullshit surveys like this. The respondents are basing their opinions on what they see in the paper and on television every day. Not on personal experience.
Remember in 2008 that BO stated that he wanted a domestic police force as well armed, well funded and well trained as the military? Remember when certain rifles were extremely scarce because the manufacturers were running triple shifts to fill massive orders for the federal government? And remember when certain calibers of ammo were unavailable? The media blamed it on the paranoid public, but on the next page of their rag they reported that the government had place orders for hundreds of millions of rounds for use for practice by domestic federal law enforcement? Agencies like the Treasury, Homeland Security, Postal Inspectors and TSA? I think BO has his well-armed domestic police force in place now and is just waiting to for some sign of insurrection to order them into action. And in what better place than his adopted home town?
The collection of thugs that the aclu is determined to protect can see what is happening. Enforcement is way down and they are becoming more emboldened. As the weather warms up, their forays will extend farther out into the suburbs and north into the city's tony areas. Wildings, daylight muggings and shootings and drive-bys along the mag mile and maybe some home invasions in the high rises along the Drive might serve to motivate the liberal majority to fight back. Maybe not. They might just opt to increase the stipend for not committing crimes.
This is going to be one hell of a summer! Stay safe!
This graph shows what has ALWAYS been wrong with the racial profiling criteria established by the liberals. Instead of stops/arrests of minorities compared to the percentage of the general population, it always should have been number of stops/arrests compared to the percentage of minorities identified as offenders in the population.
Keep up the good work!.....and thanks to jackass too.
Heyjackass.com stats says WAKE UP, WAKE UP YOU IDIOTS to what is really going on.
County commissioner wants Rauner to declare state of emergency in violent neighborhoods
Feb 04 2016
CHICAGO (FOX 32 News) - There are new calls for Governor Bruce Rauner to declare a state of emergency in Chicago's most violent neighborhoods.
With shootings and murders at a 16-year high, at least one elected leader is saying it's time for the Governor to call in other services to come in and help Chicago's communities.
According to recent statistics, 51 people were murdered across the city in January alone, and another 292 people were shot.
Cook County Board Commissioner Richard Boykin is leading the charge.
Here's a survey, this weekend will be dry and in the 40's, how many black on black murders will there be, probably none, after all they are peaceful people ( or folks).
As if we need more cop hate bullshit from the media in this rathole town. The Reader decides to pile on with this nonsense.
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/fraternal-order-of-police-shootings-propaganda-pat-camden/Content?oid=21092544
Across the country this weekend people will be talking about the over/under, in Chicago it has a totally different meaning. Stay fetal my friends.
Just. To let everyone know as far as the hacking and identity theft, talked to State Farm agent they offer on homeowners policies identity theft recovery for $25.00 a year! With all the morons attempting and succeeding would be a good idea to have something to cover you and your family.
The truth is inconsequential. The concocted narrative is the only thing that matters. Perceptions, however insane, are what matters. This is the same problem with polls in the political process. How you can take a small sample of a population (chosen by you, which conforms to your narrative) and extrapolate that to the entire population is ridiculous.
Like polls, this survey is a farce. SCC, thank you for posting truth, supported by facts. Now we just need to blast that out to the mentally challenged Left, who can not understand the difference between their masters and their saviors.
how about this for a survey?.....
officer; excuse me, sir/ms., you have been identified as the offender/suspect in (fill in the blanks: robbery, burglary, theft, shooting, etc.); would you like to be arrested?
offender: well, no...
officer: okay; will you answer a survey form, and rate your interaction with me?...and, would you consider checking the number 5 for all questions (5 is the best); my bosses would really like those ratings.....
The Libune is irrelevant. Barely reports news anymore -- mostly sentimental tripe or child-like leftist propaganda. Stopped subscribing many years ago. A daily insult to the intelligence of readers.
Count me part of the 64% who do think there is a code of silence and that it is a problem. I am retired CFD (fireman not medic) and responded many times to shootings, car wrecks, and the like and 98% of the time CPD was on the scene you guys were great- and showed A LOT of restraint in dealing with the usual idiots. But what about that 2% of CPD who showed up and acted completely unprofessionally by stirring up the anthill, etc. (I'll spare you the anecdote about how I almost got killed) instead of taking control of a scene and calming the waters as you're supposed to do? This 2% feels free to display such psychotic behavior 'cause they know their co-workers won't do the right thing when it comes to disciplining these few problem children. I've got my off-duty anecdote, too, but will spare you that one as well.
Look at the "outcry" over the "high percentage" of complaints against POs cleared by IPRA. Of course a "high" percentage of ALL complaints are cleared- most ALL of them are total BS. But what about Patrolman Normal who gets fifty complaints in twenty years and Patrolman Head Case who works the same district and gets three hundred in the same tour? You know who they are and they are mucking it up for all POs and YOU LET THEM.
(OT)
http://chicago.suntimes.com/mary-mitchell/7/71/1300501/boykin-rauner-state-emergency-gun-violence
County commissioner says gun violence warrants a 'state of emergency'
Cook County Commissioner Richard R. Boykin wants Gov. Bruce Rauner to declare a state of emergency in Chicago and Cook County in response to the spike in gun violence.
**laughs and cries simultaneously**
We were trained NO MIKE for anything other than traffic
29 and a day. said...
after almost a lifetime of having home delivery of the Tribune.. First in my parent's house as a child and later as an adult I cancelled my subscription to that rag. My aunt hated them when her husband lost his job due to a labor dispute 25 years or so ago I enjoyed getting the paper, but... Fuck them.
2/04/2016 12:40:00 AM
I agree. I switched to the Wall Street Journal over a year ago and I am glad that I did. A great perspective on what is going on around the US and world.
(OT) The lines for Donald Trump rally are so long they are out of town:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/02/cars-lined-up-out-of-town-as-hordes-attend-trump-rally-in-exeter-nh-fox-news-barred-by-fire-marshal/
The leftists are embedded in all areas of our society. The majority of citizens voted for politicians they thought would reverse the march towards socialism only to end up being betrayed, as these politicians campaigned as conservatives, but they were misrepresenting their true positions on issues. Soap box and ballot box are not working anymore.
I see all of this bullshit anti-police rhetoric eventually turning around and biting this city right in the ass BIG TIME! When the Police throw their hands up and just say fuck it! You prefer wolves over sheep dogs??? OK you can have it. Thats when Michigan Ave and a few other nice places begin to burn. I and many of my fellow brothers and sisters will enjoy watching the spectacle and try putting this Genie back in the bottle. LOL!!!!!!!
2/04/2016 02:52:00 AM
Too late !!! I said "Fuck It" bout 4 months ago......been enjoying work stress free ever since :)
Thank the lord for SCC and Hey Jackass. The Truth is out There.
Officers, don't any of you have the balls to ticket the Trib drivers? They are alway committing minor traffic violations. Us it to your favor. Soon the people in charge will get the message, only don't sandbag. Bonfire violations only.
(OT) Got to like this seems clinton/obamas friend johnny kerry ordered Russia to stop bombing in Syria Putin told he basically screw you:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/04/putin-ignores-kerry-plea-instead-deploys-top-gun-fighter-jet-to-join-syria-battle.html?intcmp=hpbt1
Like trump said during his rally if they attack or mess with us we will bomb the S@#T out of them,and Putin is a friend of trumps looks like Putin is starting the clean up before Trump takes office!
Anonymous said...
(OT)
http://chicago.suntimes.com/mary-mitchell/7/71/1300501/boykin-rauner-state-emergency-gun-violence
County commissioner says gun violence warrants a 'state of emergency'
Cook County Commissioner Richard R. Boykin wants Gov. Bruce Rauner to declare a state of emergency in Chicago and Cook County in response to the spike in gun violence.
**laughs and cries simultaneously**
2/04/2016 11:21:00 AM
Maybe use the pathetic spike lee movie chi-raq tell your girls not to give any away! that would work! We need national guard, we need curfew enforced lock down black thug areas, 1 way in 1 way out make them see how hows type of people live. What do i mean? they live in "gated" communities why not do this experiment lets say in englewood bet crime would decrease rapidly! Sorry I am not a racist just being a realist keeping it real as they say!
Anonymous said...
Count me part of the 64% who do think there is a code of silence and that it is a problem. I am retired CFD (fireman not medic) and responded many times to shootings, car wrecks, and the like and 98% of the time CPD was on the scene you guys were great- and showed A LOT of restraint in dealing with the usual idiots. But what about that 2% of CPD who showed up and acted completely unprofessionally by stirring up the anthill, etc. (I'll spare you the anecdote about how I almost got killed) instead of taking control of a scene and calming the waters as you're supposed to do? This 2% feels free to display such psychotic behavior 'cause they know their co-workers won't do the right thing when it comes to disciplining these few problem children. I've got my off-duty anecdote, too, but will spare you that one as well.
Look at the "outcry" over the "high percentage" of complaints against POs cleared by IPRA. Of course a "high" percentage of ALL complaints are cleared- most ALL of them are total BS. But what about Patrolman Normal who gets fifty complaints in twenty years and Patrolman Head Case who works the same district and gets three hundred in the same tour? You know who they are and they are mucking it up for all POs and YOU LET THEM.
2/04/2016 11:20:00 AM
Yeah right like the fire department doesn't a code of silence, what about your drunken supervisors who come on the scene reeking of booze along with fellow firemen(I had to save one of your LT from falling in a sink hole because he was too drunk to stand). Don't throw stones at a glass house because firemen as far from being saints and you couldn't handle our job because we have to deal with the asshole public and you don't.
onymous said...
Count me part of the 64% who do think there is a code of silence and that it is a problem. I am retired CFD (fireman not medic) and responded many times to shootings, car wrecks, and the like and 98% of the time CPD was on the scene you guys were great- and showed A LOT of restraint in dealing with the usual idiots. But what about that 2% of CPD who showed up and acted completely unprofessionally by stirring up the anthill, etc. (I'll spare you the anecdote about how I almost got killed) instead of taking control of a scene and calming the waters as you're supposed to do? This 2% feels free to display such psychotic behavior 'cause they know their co-workers won't do the right thing when it comes to disciplining these few problem children. I've got my off-duty anecdote, too, but will spare you that one as well.
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I'm not going to suggest that there aren't issues with discipline within the police department, but as a retired fireman, you have no room to talk. I can recall an out of control firehouse party where the head of CFD IAD ignored the issue and attempted to avoid looking into the situation at all. What about the fire bosses that punched the police officers during a marine rescue a few years ago? Let me guess, none of the fireman saw it.
And as any police officer can tell you, when a fire rig pulls up on an EMS call, it's one guy assisting, and everyone else standing around. You know when I don't see fireman just standing around? It's when it's a DOA at a Gold Coast residence. Fireman are so happy to help you look for identification and prescriptions in any and every drawer and cabinet in the residence. I wonder why that is, and what they're really looking for before I throw their asses out? Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Fuck You...
"The December shooting of an assailant with a bat that resulted in the tragic death of an innocent is something every cop we've spoken with regrets immensely. Every single officer hopes it never happens to us. But it was by all accounts an accident. That isn't the fault of thousands of coppers who do a great job day-in-and-day-out..." -- SCC
The fact that the mother in that situation sided with "other students" that her son went to school with who apparently told her that her son "was better off" without his psychiatric medication wasn't much of a help either...
Count me part of the 64% who do think there is a code of silence and that it is a problem. I am retired CFD (fireman not medic) and responded many times to shootings, car wrecks, and the like and 98% of the time CPD was on the scene you guys were great- and showed A LOT of restraint in dealing with the usual idiots. But what about that 2% of CPD who showed up and acted completely unprofessionally by stirring up the anthill, etc. (I'll spare you the anecdote about how I almost got killed) instead of taking control of a scene and calming the waters as you're supposed to do? This 2% feels free to display such psychotic behavior 'cause they know their co-workers won't do the right thing when it comes to disciplining these few problem children. I've got my off-duty anecdote, too, but will spare you that one as well.
Look at the "outcry" over the "high percentage" of complaints against POs cleared by IPRA. Of course a "high" percentage of ALL complaints are cleared- most ALL of them are total BS. But what about Patrolman Normal who gets fifty complaints in twenty years and Patrolman Head Case who works the same district and gets three hundred in the same tour? You know who they are and they are mucking it up for all POs and YOU LET THEM.
2/04/2016 11:20:00 AM
well said, but....what are you, or anyone else, going to do about it, if anything?....your observations and opinions are valuable and worth reading....but, in the long term, at the end of the day, as they say...(to coin a phrase) what difference does it make?
Can someone please post this letter that dean Angelo claims of full of lies?
Hey fire fighter you were probably drunk at the scene and don't remember half of what really happened. I know 100% of you guys are on the straight and narrow. Cmon !!!
O.T.:
008 just pick up a 6 pack of homicides in a house in 5700 block of S California..... that'll skew the numbers!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Count me part of the 64% who do think there is a code of silence and that it is a problem. I am retired CFD (fireman not medic) and responded many times to shootings, car wrecks, and the like and 98% of the time CPD was on the scene you guys were great- and showed A LOT of restraint in dealing with the usual idiots. But what about that 2% of CPD who showed up and acted completely unprofessionally by stirring up the anthill, etc. (I'll spare you the anecdote about how I almost got killed) instead of taking control of a scene and calming the waters as you're supposed to do? This 2% feels free to display such psychotic behavior 'cause they know their co-workers won't do the right thing when it comes to disciplining these few problem children. I've got my off-duty anecdote, too, but will spare you that one as well.
Look at the "outcry" over the "high percentage" of complaints against POs cleared by IPRA. Of course a "high" percentage of ALL complaints are cleared- most ALL of them are total BS. But what about Patrolman Normal who gets fifty complaints in twenty years and Patrolman Head Case who works the same district and gets three hundred in the same tour? You know who they are and they are mucking it up for all POs and YOU LET THEM.
2/04/2016 11:20:00 AM
Hey asshole I should have included with my last rant but you want to talk about anecdote what about all you drunk firemen who when out on strike and stood around outside the firehouse with their burn barrels mother@cking the police because we were sent to protect the firehouse when they were out on call. Your so righteous, I remember being called a scab among other thing because we did not honor your strike(and you know we couldn't) so don't talk about psychotic behavior your department is just as bad as john Q, public
Damn. Add 6 more to the list. 6, 700 very probable.
I heard this on a radio station up North:
"The police officer of today is treated like the Viet Nam vet of 1970!"
Who reads the Trib?
OT- 8 dead so far today, and the sun hasn't even gone down yet. Most of the criminals are still sleeping! Stay safe.
First off, what does anyone expect when the people polled are shitheads and hipsters. Secondly, to the retired fireman: enjoy your retirement and shut your mouth. I can give you many anecdotes of poor behavior and issues with firemen. . However, I'm not on a CFD blog adding my two cents. So, thanks for coming out and offering your opinion.
Re: Count me part of the 64% who do think there is a code of silence and that it is a problem. I am retired CFD (fireman not
I've been a cop for 30 yrs and have seen many a drunk fireman show up at a scene. Why did the other firemen allow that? Mmm
..7 equal St. valentine massacre...6 equal sanctuary six mess..
Here's my survey:
1) What race treats the police fairly upon arrival?
2) What race wants the police to control their child?
3) What race keeps their mouths shut even though they witnessed a crime?
4) What race doesn't show equal respect to police that they demand?
5) What race immediately looks as their shot child as a law-suit?
6) What race needs marijuana decriminalized so they have a chance at a job?
7) What race never barks about same race shootings, but police shootings are unacceptable?
8) What race refuses to open businesses in their crime ridden neighborhoods to further
economic gain?
9) What race is entitled to free housing, food, medicine, and uses public schools as free
baby-sitters?
10)What race is offended by everything except for what they have bestowed upon society?
Answer what you like, it doesn't matter because this will offend someone and will be called a racist poll. The problem is perception and reality in this case is very close to being the same.
2/04/2016 11:20:00 AM
The problem is a lot of these morons that get high CR numbers also get a lot of activity or are clouted up. Precedence is everything. The CPD let so many "STARS" and "CLOUTED" off the hook for years that even at hearings the ruling is always done with precedence. I am CPD, we all have a bad day and make poor judgments at times, but as you stated, there is a handful of regular morons (bad-apples) that keep doing the same thing over and over without any punishment.
Chicago registered its first Hex-Homicide for the year. The bar has been set high. Doubles and triples?? Try six dead in a house. All stabbed to death at 57/California.
Off topic: I don't know. It's police stuff.
WBBM radio, while "reporting" on the Alvarez part of the never ending story about officer Van Dyke and knife wielding laquan, referred to laquan as the "MURDERED" person.
Unbelievable!
Then, in an ironic twist or connection of sorts to that story, the story of SIX people reported to have been murdered with a KNIFE is now unfolding. People get killed by knives? I thought that guns do all the killings and that knives are not that much of a threat. SIX killed with a knife! Imagine that!
Look at the "outcry" over the "high percentage" of complaints against POs cleared by IPRA. Of course a "high" percentage of ALL complaints are cleared- most ALL of them are total BS. But what about Patrolman Normal who gets fifty complaints in twenty years and Patrolman Head Case who works the same district and gets three hundred in the same tour? You know who they are and they are mucking it up for all POs and YOU LET THEM.
2/04/2016 11:20:00 AM
There is the sa*/me percentage of idiots in every profession: doctors, teachers, priests, nuns and even America's heroes - the fireman. I've got stories, but like you, I won't get into them. By the way, Mr. I Just Gotta Open My Yap, I've never gone to a fireman's blog and offered my two cents because I don't know enough about you guys to offer a valid and informed opinion. The difference between you and me is that I know it.
We try to get rid of our mopes, believe me we do. Unfortunately for all of us, and thankfully for all of us too, there is due process. It isn't always justice, but it keeps things fair for most. What 'should be' is usually tough to prove, not a lot of citizens are willing to co-operate, trying to be the good guy doesn't make you popular and the politicians often have a say in it and you future to boot. Take it from someone who knows.
Please let me out of this city. Raise the residency rule.
(OT) a 6 pack what is going on?
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/02/04/six-people-found-dead-in-gage-park-home/?utm_source=mobile&utm_medium=text-messaging&utm_campaign=text-messaging
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Count me part of the 64% who do think there is a code of silence and that it is a problem. I am retired CFD (fireman not medic) and responded many times to shootings, car wrecks, and the like and 98% of the time CPD was on the scene you guys were great- and showed A LOT of restraint in dealing with the usual idiots. But what about that 2% of CPD who showed up and acted completely unprofessionally by stirring up the anthill, etc. (I'll spare you the anecdote about how I almost got killed) instead of taking control of a scene and calming the waters as you're supposed to do? This 2% feels free to display such psychotic behavior 'cause they know their co-workers won't do the right thing when it comes to disciplining these few problem children. I've got my off-duty anecdote, too, but will spare you that one as well.
Look at the "outcry" over the "high percentage" of complaints against POs cleared by IPRA. Of course a "high" percentage of ALL complaints are cleared- most ALL of them are total BS. But what about Patrolman Normal who gets fifty complaints in twenty years and Patrolman Head Case who works the same district and gets three hundred in the same tour? You know who they are and they are mucking it up for all POs and YOU LET THEM.
2/04/2016 11:20:00 AM
And what about the "2%" of fireman that drink on the job and get on the rig drunk, and then become a liability on the scene of emergencies. STFU and clean up your own house before you attempt to impart your firehouse wisdom on the Police, whom you have no trouble calling for when your getting your ass kicked on the street.
Chicago has a terrible problem with human garbage. Clean them out, start with the politicians, progress to the filth in the media, then top it off with the "children".
The tribune can make a survey come out anyway they want... they didn't ask me.
I'm a private citizen, live in Near North and try to give a thumbs up to any officer I see and if given the chance, thank them for the job that they do.
If some of the neighborhoods and the ACLU keep up their attack on the police, it may get worse before it gets better.
All the National Guard can do is shoot 'em.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Count me part of the 64% who do think there is a code of silence and that it is a problem. I am retired CFD (fireman not medic) and responded many times to shootings, car wrecks, and the like and 98% of the time CPD was on the scene you guys were great- and showed A LOT of restraint in dealing with the usual idiots. But what about that 2% of CPD who showed up and acted completely unprofessionally by stirring up the anthill, etc. (I'll spare you the anecdote about how I almost got killed) instead of taking control of a scene and calming the waters as you're supposed to do? This 2% feels free to display such psychotic behavior 'cause they know their co-workers won't do the right thing when it comes to disciplining these few problem children. I've got my off-duty anecdote, too, but will spare you that one as well.
Look at the "outcry" over the "high percentage" of complaints against POs cleared by IPRA. Of course a "high" percentage of ALL complaints are cleared- most ALL of them are total BS. But what about Patrolman Normal who gets fifty complaints in twenty years and Patrolman Head Case who works the same district and gets three hundred in the same tour? You know who they are and they are mucking it up for all POs and YOU LET THEM.
2/04/2016 11:20:00 AM
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Thanks for your input, waterboy!
Go spout off on a hose-pullers blog!
Does state of emergency mean lets throw coppers in jail an ask why the city is plagued with so much violence, you can't have it both ways. People who are willing to help stop the violence and a wave of crime are all being scrutinized and thrown under the bus and going to prison thanks to backing up youth violence and all its criminal activity, sure we have had a few bad apples however it doesn't come anywhere close to the real problems....DOJ should be investigating why so many youths and repeated violent offenders were out and about committing criminal activity not once, twice, three times, no but over and over of piles of complaints against them and no prosecution...you blame the police for all the wrong doings well then you need to start of by going after the parents, the justice system, crooked lawyers and judges and so one in this broken system, stop making the police the monsters of society when in fact they have to pick up after the pieces of garbage trails all of you have not held them accountable for their wrong doings since the beginning. Throwing coppers in jail is not the solution, you need to call it for what it is and it stems from home on all these gang banging families that continue to plague a culture of violence in their homes and their communities. This is gonna be going to get worst if you continue this cycle, and it will spread more and more to the outter limits of the city boundaries until its to late and you have a third world culture of epidemic violence on your hands!!!
There is one bright spot to consider. It doesn't help with the present situation but all newspapers, Chicago Tribune, LA Times, New York Times, San Fransisco Chronicle, Washington Post, Boston Herald, are all dead men walking, all are in a downward spiral of dropping readership, and loss of advertising revenue They are fading away. When reader can easily check up on the facts on the internet, and understand what is really happening in the blogosphere they realize a modern newspapers' reporting is very short on facts. The fundamental problem with newspapers these days is editorial content has left the editorial pages and has infested what is supposed to be the straight news portions of the newspaper. These wastes of plant fiber sold what little remained of any credibility they had when they championed the election of Sir Sparkelfarts to the White House his only qualification, he was black. They where only interested in the historical significant of a black president. Compounding things when they covered for him. The only thing a newspaper is good for now is starting the charcoal on a grill, lining a bird cage, or paper training a puppy dog.
A six-bagger massacre. What say you, Tiny Dancer and DeEscalante. Register knives?
Anecdotal? FUCK YOU!
Troops: STAY FETAL!
OT: Finally got my Pension Advisor. Two things really stand out.
First, apparently only a little under 2600 under the rank of sergeant bothered to vote for their pension trustee. Pathetic. Simply pathetic.
Next is Mike Lappe's fucking joke of an article where he speaks about scammers collecting or attempting to collect disability pensions. All this goof had to do was look in the area of West Washington Blvd, but that ain't ever gonna happen as long as he is the elected pension trustee. Fortunately, this guy won't be finishing his term as he will be retiring soon. Maybe the next guy will step up to the plate. Maybe.
Out of curiosity how many people actually managed to sync both microphones in the vehicles because the crappy equipment city purchased is not designed to handle two microphones
I wonder if many police officers will start considering other professions, and an exit strategy out of CPD? the news was showing the camera badge program with lots of other goodies for CPD ... like the way officers have to interact with the public...and the many many regulations that seem to have no end. (Who in there right mind would want to be a police officer nowadays?
Tell us more about the "Ground Hog Day Massacre" in Gage Park. If this doesn't put the Tiny Dancer and "I've got your back" DeEscalante into cardiac arrest...
Resign, you worthless, hypocritical inept pieces of shit. Your "credibility" is zero, zip, zilch, nada.
To the retired CFD "Fireman not medic" go fuck yourself and stay off this blog. You and your coworkers are a joke. I'm sick of all the CFD drunken antics off duty. Clean up your own backyard first.
Let them kill themselves, consider it a public service.
The constant onslaught of Anti-Police Propaganda is going to cause even more destruction to a once proud race of Anericans. Unless a strong Black Voice emerges the wholesale destruction of the Black Male as a viable, productive citizen is going to reach the tipping point.
Off topic: Congratulation to the New ..Promoted Sergeants. The districts are short staff and this should help, but more needed.
Breaking News - NYPD
Two NYPD officers shot in the South Bronx. No further details at this time.
Two rookie NYPD officers (one male; one female) shot in a Melrose P-J stairwell in the Bronx; 40th Pct.
This statement below is correct. Unfortunately the police department is defined by the men and women "on the street" along with the "gold star " command and the political meddlers. Thats the same in every police department nationwide.The media portrayal of the department is also a factor. Department should be managing the media.
Why do us citizens think this way?
I think you hit it on the head. We do not differentiate between your corrupt city government and police leadership; and police officers on the street. You are all one big wall of blue to us on the outside.....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Count me part of the 64% who do think there is a code of silence and that it is a problem. I am retired CFD (fireman not medic) and responded many times to shootings, car wrecks, and the like and 98% of the time CPD was on the scene you guys were great- and showed A LOT of restraint in dealing with the usual idiots. But what about that 2% of CPD who showed up and acted completely unprofessionally by stirring up the anthill, etc. (I'll spare you the anecdote about how I almost got killed) instead of taking control of a scene and calming the waters as you're supposed to do? This 2% feels free to display such psychotic behavior 'cause they know their co-workers won't do the right thing when it comes to disciplining these few problem children. I've got my off-duty anecdote, too, but will spare you that one as well.
Look at the "outcry" over the "high percentage" of complaints against POs cleared by IPRA. Of course a "high" percentage of ALL complaints are cleared- most ALL of them are total BS. But what about Patrolman Normal who gets fifty complaints in twenty years and Patrolman Head Case who works the same district and gets three hundred in the same tour? You know who they are and they are mucking it up for all POs and YOU LET THEM.
2/04/2016 11:20:00 AM
Thanks, Laborer with a hose. Your opinion as a common laborer is greatly appreciated and respected.
Off topic, homicide in 025 tonight had victim reading his isr receipt when murdered. Rumor has it he was looking for the number to call the ACLU and beef on the officers.
"Count me as 64%" go fuck yourself. Thats part of the problem with assholes like you. Paramedics actually earn their paychecks and are out they're on the streets dealing with the same assholes we deal with. If one of your "fireman buddies" fucked up and you witnessed it tell me your the type of jag-off that would run to your boss and rat him out right??? Who the fuck would want to work with a rat like you? You are a "holier than thou piece of shit"!
"County commissioner says gun violence warrants a 'state of emergency'
2/04/2016 11:21:00 AM
Yeah, they will send the Clipboard Ladies around to deliver bags of ice and cheap 20" box fans. Middle of the winter, sure, but it's all they know how to do. That, and CFD will bring a smoke detector that will never be removed from its heavy plastic bubble-pack.
**laughs and cries simultaneously**
I know. We really should close the beaches.
All legit guys and gals. Mark sedevic is promoted merit right out of sups office. They didn't even move him to a district first. Such a suckhole. How can the sup promote his admin sgt. Who knew, work for bob Tracy = promotion.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Count me part of the 64% who do think there is a code of silence and that it is a problem. I am retired CFD (fireman not medic) and responded many times to shootings, car wrecks, and the like and 98% of the time CPD was on the scene
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You did mention that you are retired. Why don't you go live with the 64% and leave us alone. Things change, they change ALL the time. Coppers that stir up the crowd are isolated by their co-workers because they make our job harder now. Do I have to mention how a handful of you guys stuffed your boots with valuables on your jobs, years ago? You firemen are not saints either. Look in the mirror, hero.
Code of silence????? Where the hell have you been? They suspend, fire and incarcerate some cops for not answering questions now. Do you REALLY think that a cop will face JAIL TIME for a co-worker? If you do, you are as stupid as the 64% you are part of.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Count me part of the 64% who do think there is a code of silence and that it is a problem. I am retired CFD (fireman not medic) and responded many times to shootings, car wrecks, and the like and 98% of the time CPD was on the scene you guys were great- and showed A LOT of restraint in dealing with the usual idiots. But what about that 2% of CPD who showed up and acted completely unprofessionally by stirring up the anthill, etc. (I'll spare you the anecdote about how I almost got killed) instead of taking control of a scene and calming the waters as you're supposed to do? This 2% feels free to display such psychotic behavior 'cause they know their co-workers won't do the right thing when it comes to disciplining these few problem children. I've got my off-duty anecdote, too, but will spare you that one as well.
Look at the "outcry" over the "high percentage" of complaints against POs cleared by IPRA. Of course a "high" percentage of ALL complaints are cleared- most ALL of them are total BS. But what about Patrolman Normal who gets fifty complaints in twenty years and Patrolman Head Case who works the same district and gets three hundred in the same tour? You know who they are and they are mucking it up for all POs and YOU LET THEM.
What about the drunken on and off duty CFD ( fire fighters) who are a little tipsy and sometimes driving or in other ways acting the fool?
Before you start talking about how my back yard could use a little sprucing up, yours better look like Sparkle Town
Just saying
Hey! Speaking of surveys, where's that "Morale & Stress" survey?
To "timmyp34"
Read our published works - we hammered the shit out of that from day one. Don't be dragging that crap in here as if the rank-and-file had anything to do with it.
With all due respect to the firefighter, I listen to the scanners and every damn time there is a call I hear "CFD wants CPD to ride on it". Dont shit in your own back yard Mr Hosepuller.
Gran Torino said...
I wonder if many police officers will start considering other professions, and an exit strategy out of CPD? the news was showing the camera badge program with lots of other goodies for CPD ... like the way officers have to interact with the public...and the many many regulations that seem to have no end. (Who in there right mind would want to be a police officer nowadays?
2/04/2016 08:15:00 PM
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You should have had your exit strategy on the first day of the academy. Some of us did. We are just playing the waiting game. If you wait until you are about to retire, then it is probably too late. Some of use have one or two extra careers on the side.
I really regret taking this job. And that's all it is now a job.
Superintendent Gotta Run would classify the murder of six family members as an Inny . Nothing police can do to prevent inny murders .
Person with a knife not dangerous , black caucus and mayor paid $4,900,000 offender threatening others with a knife a year ago before election .
Who was surveyed? Did they only do the survey in the gang infested drug dealing black neighborhoods? Try the same survey in predominantly white neighborhoods and I believe about 95% would totally support CPD.
Just a citizen.
I respect CFD and have given all Members breaks Ive dealt with.
@Transmaster
Don't you mean the Boston Globe, rather than the Boston Herald? I've been reading both since moving here almost six years ago from Chicago. The Herald posts stories busting state/local (mostly Democrat) government corruption and malfeasance, while the (very liberal) Globe whitewashes it. The Herald by the way endorsed both McCain and Romney in the last two presidential elections; the Globe endorsed Obama in both elections.
Count me part of the 64% who do think there is a code of silence and that it is a problem. I am retired CFD (fireman not medic) and responded many times to shootings, car wrecks, and the like and 98% of the time CPD was on the scene you guys were great- and showed A LOT of restraint in dealing with the usual idiots. But what about that 2% of CPD who showed up and acted completely unprofessionally by stirring up the anthill, etc. (I'll spare you the anecdote about how I almost got killed) instead of taking control of a scene and calming the waters as you're supposed to do? This 2% feels free to display such psychotic behavior 'cause they know their co-workers won't do the right thing when it comes to disciplining these few problem children. I've got my off-duty anecdote, too, but will spare you that one as well.
Look at the "outcry" over the "high percentage" of complaints against POs cleared by IPRA. Of course a "high" percentage of ALL complaints are cleared- most ALL of them are total BS. But what about Patrolman Normal who gets fifty complaints in twenty years and Patrolman Head Case who works the same district and gets three hundred in the same tour? You know who they are and they are mucking it up for all POs and YOU LET THEM.
"I'm not a medic I'm a fireman." Medics are the only ones earning their salary on that job. Take your part time job and your "me too" clause and go talk on your own blog.
Anonymous said...
Rip to dean Angelos fop career. You pretty much sealed it today dean. Hope Jr has no aspirations of running for anything in the future because he's done too. You and the Angelo fop associates made a ton of enemies tonight. You screwed up dean. Good luck with your future endeavors
2/04/2016 12:58:00 AM
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I'm guessing your talking about YOU hair gels having a secret meeting with the bosses? Their a lot of us in patrol think ALL of YOU should be sanctioned. When ACLU sues your asses why should my dues money used to defend you 2 and 3 year wonders? Do ISR's on a party bus? Your a bunch of goofs.
Anonymous said...
Rip to dean Angelos fop career. You pretty much sealed it today dean. Hope Jr has no aspirations of running for anything in the future because he's done too. You and the Angelo fop associates made a ton of enemies tonight. You screwed up dean. Good luck with your future endeavors
2/04/2016 12:58:00 AM
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So let get this. The city offers you 10 hours days IF you go out and write a bunch of ISR's? If you don't see what's wrong with that your blind. What you'll do is screw the rest of us on tac teams. If your writing X number the city will want the rest of to match your numbers. Maybe I don't want to be the poster child for the ACLU. The Gun teams and the Mission teams will be screwed by you also.
But I guess the words WE and US are not in your vocabulary. Only words ME and I.
Ethics class by a fireman.
A retired fireman at that, at 85 working days a year is there any other kind?
Was it ethical to strike? How many people died in fires over that three week period? Because you couldn't wait a little longer for the raise Byrne told you was coming.
Your ilk struck and people died. You hindered the public's safety. We are not hindering the public's safety. The DoJ, ACLU and the Democratic Party are hindering the public's safety.
I particularly enjoy you stating that you are a fireman and not a medic, never understood your looking down upon the paramedics. The paramedics job is ten times tougher and now in the age of few fires their job is more dangerous as well.
And as far as you "firemen" go it isn't 1970 anymore. You're job is a walk in the park. Not only are you far less likely to be injured or killed nowadays but no fireman is going to go through the wringer after confronting the evils of society.
Two NYPD police Officers shot in the Bronx . Where is the 24/7 news coverage , no crocodile tears from mayor or community activists .
Just a thought: Is the CPD being set-up for replacement by a mercenary corporation like ACADEMI (formerly Blackwater)?
Or maybe a combination of Federal agencies?
"What had been traditional police missions now have a mix of police, private security firms and military working in the same arena."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3394.htm
In Iraq: "As of March 2010, there were 95,461 DOD contractor personnel in Iraq compared to approximately 95,900 uniformed personnel in-country. Despite fluctuations throughout the last seven quarters, troop and contractor levels have remained relatively equal. Contractors made up approximately 50% of the Pentagon's workforce in Iraq as of the second quarter of 2010." http://middleeast.about.com/od/iraq/a/iraq-contractors-troops.htm
This would fit in with the current admins. big "vision" for "transforming" America.
Keep up the good work!
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