Friday, February 19, 2016

ISR to Change?

We aren't holding our breath, but desperate times require desperate promises to make the police think that Rahm has their backs (nevermind all those knives sticking in them or those tire tracks up and down your bodies):
  • Mayor Rahm Emanuel has asked for a “look into” the new detailed reports officers must fill out when they stop people — after a cop told him similar forms in the suburbs are “half the length as those in Chicago.”

    The Fraternal Order of Police and rank-and-file cops have complained that officers must fill out far more information on the new “investigatory stop report” that replaced the department’s old “contact card” system on Jan. 1.

    Officers say they’ve conducted far fewer stops this year because of the new reporting system. Meanwhile, crime has shot up.
Gosh. Cops are complaining. No real surprise there, we do it, too - but that doesn't mean there isn't a basis behind the complaints. We aren't bitching to bitch, we're bitching because the system is seriously fucked up:
  • Under state law and an agreement with the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois, Chicago officers now must report far more information about stops — including whether they frisked the person and if an arrest was made.

    A retired federal judge will review the Chicago reports to ensure the stops are passing constitutional muster.
Does everyone recall what these reports entail? School information, employment information, all vehicle information (even if no tickets are written), potentially three different narratives. Seventy-something boxes to complete...per person stopped. On a good day, that's 20 minutes per report, twisted in a unnatural sitting position to type on a screen smaller than a standard laptop. Draw your own conclusions.

Remember, here's what the mayor supposedly wanted according to rumors the other day:
  • Heard through a little birdy that Mr. 9.5 flipped out the other day when he got the numbers from the month of January. Supposedly he started demanding answers as to why no one's doing ISR's and when told that no one wants to do a 2-page report that the ACLU is getting their hands on, he demanded that R and D fix it and fix it immediately.
And here's what the ACLU says:
  • "We are pleased that there are going to be fewer stops."
So who are you going to put your trust in? A mayor that has repeatedly thrown the Police Department under the bus and driven it over everyone including the supernintendo whose back he had not even 48 hours before firing, or the ACLU who has made no secret of its institutional hatred of police?

This is part of what the PAX 501 from the boss says:
  • The Department has not relinquished any control of our policies and procedures to the ACLU. The agreement does not provide the ACLU with any role whatsoever with respect to individual officers' compliance with the Department policies.
Except for the fact that the ACLU gets copies of every single ISR report - that isn't a "relinquish[ing]" of anything, right? Who are you shitting John? At the FOP meeting Tuesday, it was discussed that the ACLU is mailing surveys (and has created a flyer) for persons stopped by the police. They have also contacted stopped persons at home, are asking leading questions, and providing guidance to the CR process in order to get complaint numbers on officers. No reporter will touch on that - the ACLU, a private organization, is getting data collected by government agents (the police) in order to sue the government collecting the data.

The fact is that the ACLU is getting these files and is reviewing them for reasons to sue the Department and individual officers, and anyone who says differently, from the mayor, the Acting Superintendent and on down the line, is lying - plain and simple.

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163 Comments:

Anonymous 11th Dist King said...

So far I have done zero, none, not one ISR report. I am trying to get zero for the year.

2/19/2016 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It truly is dire times. I hate to be this police officer because it was once What I hated. I always knew that if you stepped in crap you might lose your shoe but it never prevented me from doing my job. I took my oath, and my own sense of honor seriously. I would risk life and career for the city I protected as long as I did it knowing it was the right thing to do. The cards are rigged against officers and good officers will get hurt due to this present environment. Please protect yourself, partner and by no means subject yourself to possible litigation if you can safely avoid it. Their is no place for proactive policing in this city right now.

2/19/2016 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A huge part of the blame in this fiasco belongs to the Chief of Staff and General Counsel. Both are yes men who backed down from the Supt, G-Mac, instead of doing their jobs. If they couldn't get through to the Supt, they should have gone the next step and contacted City Hall. But these two sell outs didn't want to lose their spots. And it worked because they are both still there collecting paychecks.

The remaining blame belongs to the rest of the exempts who also did nothing. Stand up tough guys. You're the F'in police. Instead they all sold their souls for that gold badge. G-Mac is gone and you're left holding the bag of shit he left behind.

ACLU has no power of the police? Yes they do and I'm not going to be sued or disciplined while you sit a HQ making more money than I'll ever see only to make you look good. It's your bed, now sleep in it.

2/19/2016 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck the ACLU, don't do stops that require an ISR report. Don't have to be fetal, just don't do anything that requires the report. The Department can't make you stop people/confront people to make an investigatory stop. Let the POS drive around with their guns and dope, let them walk around with guns and dope. The ACLU will be happy to find out minorities will be stopped less as a result of their allegation of racism by the CPD. And who will suffer? The good citizens. Let the ACLU go out there and confront criminals since its lawyers seem to know what is going on in the hood. No need to jackpot yourselves because of semantics, which someone else will determine is correct or not, on a form.

Mistakes happen but the ACLU will look at your unintentional mistake as discrimination/racism against minorities and you will be named in a suit that you violated the civil rights of 'Joe Blow'.

In order to not be jackpotted, don't do any activity that requires an ISR. Writing a ticket or parker or making an arrest doesn't require an ISR and is still considered activity.





2/19/2016 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will not be doing them even if it goes back to the old style card. If you are not 100% correct in your narrative of why you stopped and searched that person you are risking being sued. If you think you are smarter than all the ACLU lawyers, don't kid yourself. They will find something wrong, then check your CR numbers, then its your ass! Good luck

2/19/2016 12:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I believed everything a COP told me I'd still be shining my shoes before R/C when Bennie Hill's Uncle(Jaws's lil Bro Giarango)was the W/C. Did that cuz a "Cop told me" Lil Jaws was an "honorable man."
We all make mistakes

2/19/2016 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. 9-5 hat a titi attack when he got the number of murders for Jan or the number of ISR's? I definitely think that any officer that does these ISR better make sure they don't drop the soap at 26/cal. STAY FETAL.

2/19/2016 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just put on the old contact card " was a frisk conducted" yes, no or consented. If yes justify in narrative why! Thats it!!

2/19/2016 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISR could be 5 pages and still taboo because of gray area of not having enough R.A.S. A reasonable person is given authority in deciding if a CPD vet knows if a guy is dirty or violates civil liberties. (lose job, possessions, wife, family, depression)... Define a "reasonable person". I think we are running short on reasonable people. New rules increase liability WAY TOO MUCH. DIfferent job description now. We are way too short police officers and now this. We need 50,000 U.S.C. raise per P.O. to help differ punitive damages without having backing from clouted bosses or the city. Pay us to do this dirty work. Not many applicants even at the rate you boast. Numbers are still falling, fop, any safety concerns here? Pay Us Way MORE. Chicago is worth it. and do it before Summer:) wouldn't want to hit 1000 dead over some liberal perfect world b.s. if so, keep the draino on tap.

2/19/2016 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The I.S.R. is like cheese on a mouse trap.

2/19/2016 01:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Good:

-Cta checks
-parkers
-movers with just citation or blue card
-P.C. arrest.

The Bad:

ANOV with no pat down to prevent I.S.R. Better to long form. No chance of illegal search and safer instead of no pat down.

The Ugly:

The I.S.R.

2/19/2016 01:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They will roll back the I.S.R once Obama is out of office. But what about all of the lives lost until then. Do those lives matter?

2/19/2016 01:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT, but speaking of the FOP meeting, did Dean hurl a profanity at a unit rep and then demand coppers to pay $20 for a pet's surgery? I'm trying to figure out how to view the meeting's recording.

2/19/2016 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck that and fuck the ACLU

2/19/2016 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wasn't this part of Sen. Kwame Raoul's law passed last year?

Wonder what he thinks about all this. Is your legislation having the desired impact, Senator? Shameful.

2/19/2016 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Al Apathy said...

We won't get fooled again...
Don't believe a word.
Get it in writing, have it noterized, change the ILCS, run the aclu outta town, then
DON'T BELIEVE anything they say.

You're in the jungle Rham, we're gonna watch you bleed!!

2/19/2016 01:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All a part of the communist agenda.

Alinsky's Rules for Radicals #4.“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules."

You are aware that the ACLU is a communist organization, right?

2/19/2016 02:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this is true "Fetal" would be an aggressive officer today. I would recommed embrionic or pre conception of this new police department they want to sue every officer into oblivion.

2/19/2016 02:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please allow us to deconstruct this bit of amusing Fuckery, SCC...

"Mayor orders review of controversial police-stop
forms after a cop gripes"

Written by Frank Main and Fran Spielman

Rahm and the exempts are in a fucking full-blown PANIC
because the overwhelming majority of Policemen recognize
that Rahm Emanuel has cynically ceded control of CPD to the
ACLU/DOJ/#blm Mob to keep the flames of outrage over the
McDonald shooting video from costing him a second term in office.

Who is willing to be fired, financially ruined, slandered, and
put in federal prison for the rest of their life because of a
piece of paper?

The bitterest irony is that people are actually cheering and applauding this.

The ACLU lawyers are de facto federal prosecutors now.

It won't be Rahm Emanuel, John Escalante, any executive member of the ACLU, any
member of the #blm Mob or their white guilt afflicted progressive sympathizers or even Frank Main or Fran Spielman, being frog-marched from the federal courthouse at
219 S. Dearborn to the Metropolitan Correctional Center at 71 W. Van Buren...

It will ONLY BE CHICAGO POLICEMEN!

Charged, tried and convicted in the court of public opinion with violating the constitutional rights of some "oppressed" person just because one section of narration on these accursed forms doesn't appear to jibe or jibes too well and is construed to be an untruth because of who it was written by.

Pandering by Rahm has resulted in a social justice advocacy group having a seat at the head of the CPD Policy Making table where they DO NOT FUCKING BELONG! Any statement by Rahm, Escalante or anyone else to the contrary is a damned lie.

Now for the rest.
"...after a cop gripes."

"A" COP?

"We can't let on that we faithfully scour that blog."
We reckon that the griping cop is SCC.

Context... It's everything.
Nice veiled inference that any opinions
about working conditions as expressed by Policemen,
constitutes griping.

Lots of shit-talk lately about:

"All the cops are whining at that racist cop blog
about not being able to beat and shoot people in
the back and get away with it."

And there's this:

"The powerful Police Union, FOP..."
Cannons all pointed the wrong way.

Powerful?
Bull-M/Fing-Shit!

Only if they had a hard-eyed cadre of Private Detectives
and P/R experts to run counter agit-prop and engage in the
same dirty tricks local media does.

We never did like this notion that Policemen aren't supposed
to hit back and knock a few teeth out whether on the streets,
politically or in the public relations realm.

"ISR to Change?"
At this point, changing this accursed instrument, DOES NOT MATTER.

Police like you have no friends...

2/19/2016 02:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I said it before and I'll say it again: Rahm and McGoofy sold their souls when they opted to hop into bed with the ACLU.
Now the ACLU has Rahm and the new Supe by the short hairs and they're squirming.

2/19/2016 02:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone doing ISR's is a weak individual who has no balls to stand up for his family! Wait until the CR's start rolling in April on the dumb asses who made multiple ISR's to keep their spots or stay in a unit!! It doesn't matter if they make it into a one line report! The fact of the matter is your going to get fucked over when it comes to the ACLU lawyers interpretation of the law and your dumb ass narrative!

2/19/2016 03:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Gran Torino said...

Ya have to wonder if the ACLU is just another little office in hell. The crusade of staying fetal must continue.

2/19/2016 03:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am sure the crack clouted clowns can simplify the form so it is only FOUR pages long.

2/19/2016 03:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should just get an ACLU Lawyer to ride around with you all day. He can make all the stop and frisk decisions. Heck, you can even let him interview the thugs right there and then.

2/19/2016 04:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember the San Bernadino attack?

Now the FBI says there might have been a THIRD Attacker after all.

But don't wory, they will solve it all if only Apple can crack the phone!

2/19/2016 04:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SSC, you are absolutely correct. They are all lying. These are designed to jam you up down the road. Don't let any supervisor bullshit you into claiming they are not. The ACLU and some civil attorney is just waiting to cram it up some coppers ass or some supervisor at a later time. They will be used against you by some asshole civil attorney at a deposition or civil trial. They can also be used against you in a criminal court proceeding.

2/19/2016 04:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess Rahm does not understand the problem. The length of the form is not the major problem, the simple fact that the communist private entity ACLU is the problem. All this organization is going to do is the same thing they have been doing for the last 12 years with the blue traffic stop cards. They will look for some statistical anomaly so that they can accuse the Chicago Police of being a racist organization. The blue card was only suppose to be a 3 year study, so much for that 3 years it has come ant gone 4 times. Some fool is getting a grant to continue the bs blue card program so they will continue this indefinately. This ACLU bs should have never come to fruition. The city should never have given the ACLU access to the ISR's. The simple fact is that Lawyers are nothing more then spin doctors when it comes to words. They will go trough each ISR with a fine tooth comb and try and build bs statistics inorder to get referal fees from the private attorney they will refer their spin doctor stories and the city will settle each and every time. STAY FETAL AND STAY HAPPY.

2/19/2016 04:54:00 AM  
Blogger JohnL said...

So....the ACLU runs the CPD policy? POLICE LIVES MATTER!!!

2/19/2016 05:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also at the FOP meeting, FOP never fought against these reports. When is was in committee down in Springfield, no one from Fop opposed the ISR reports. Fop is so out of touch!

2/19/2016 05:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Ken said...

•The Department has not relinquished any control of our policies and procedures to the ACLU. The agreement does not provide the ACLU with any role whatsoever with respect to individual officers' compliance with the Department policies.

Place your hand on the bible and repeat after me "this is the whole truth and nothing but he truth so help me God"

2/19/2016 06:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is the outrage by taxpayers?

2/19/2016 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just so you media types know, with this agreement with the ACLU, which is a non governmental entity, they get all your info. The state law wants only public places, so if your joe abiding citizen you more than likely won't get stopped for anything. BUT, since the ACLU is trying to cook it saying we stop disproportionately stop minorities, they had to figure a way to make it look like so. They've added private places as well. So you and your spouse/significant other get in an argument and your all to nosey neighbor calls the police and we respond...we are supposed to do these reports. Then..after its submitted some hippy that lives at home with mommy or daddy reviews it (because you know it's some law clerk and not the actual lawyer reviewing it), and they have all of your info...name, address, height, weight, identifier (rather social security or state ID), date of birth, etc. Now let's say an arrest stems from the incident....they get all that info as well, which is a total invasion of your right to privacy...they don't care because they have an agenda to sue and make money. The problem is, when they do sue, they will file a class action and get millions while those of you that were stopped will get 50 bucks a piece.

2/19/2016 06:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Went to ISR training tonight, gotta tip my hat to the instructors, I was prepared to go in there and have them blow smoke up my ass. Not the case, was very informative. That being said, I will make every attempt in the world to avoid doing one of these reports. ACLU is just waiting for us to fuck up so they can jam us up.

2/19/2016 06:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only way anyone is getting my name and star is on the bottom of a ticket, and I'm not writing those either anymore. Mind you I was always good for about 800 parkers and 250 movers a year. I find I'm much more relaxed now. Thanks Rahm.

2/19/2016 06:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cant get sued if you DON'T put yourself in that situation boys and girls. Stay FETAL and Fuck the low information voters...............

2/19/2016 06:23:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

All this to appease the great unwashed. Sickening.

2/19/2016 06:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just be armed report taker insurance adjuster. You really actually work for insurance companies when it comes time to take reports.

2/19/2016 06:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

until the ACLU is out of the loop I will not fill out any stop forms no matter how small noir will I do any stops. this is my form of protest and job action

2/19/2016 06:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop no one. If you observe a significant crime, make the arrest. You should do nothing else. It is imperative to give this city the kind of sanctuary city law enforcement it wants. The kind of problems this city has are not going to be solved by the police. It will take leadership to bring people together to stop the violence, not an agressive police force. Not doing these contact booklets may be the way to hold the people responsible for the success and failure of government actually accountable.

2/19/2016 06:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another aspect to this disaster is that the only training given to the officers so far are 3 streaming videos. Another thing is that there are so many scenarios that come with a street stop that if you ask a supervisor for guidance he or she may have a different answer than another supervisor or the supervisors may not know the answer at all. With all of these hassles I will continue to not do a God damn thing. Stay fetal my friends.

2/19/2016 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is the jag off who was talking to Rahm. How about talking about real issues, Residency and pay raise. We work hard

Next time someone decides to talk, Think first.

2/19/2016 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My activity consistent of 1 Parker. Answering calls and arrest on signed complaints. You "workers" should try it.

2/19/2016 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IAD better recruit some street smart coppers, with writing skills to equal Hemingway. But why would anyone with those unique skills want to offer themselves up to the gods of liberalism?

2/19/2016 07:22:00 AM  
Blogger Frank Drebin said...

Fuck Rahm and fuck the ACLU! They both got what they wanted and deserve! Deal with it bitches!

2/19/2016 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing will change except our socks and shorts periodically. Seize the day and make sure that the ones close to you know that they are loved....

2/19/2016 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is Too Late, way Too Late. The Issues here are far greater than the ISR, and if any Officer ceases to go Fetal simply because the ISR is changed; that Officer is a Moron. The vary premise that an ISR is necessary in the first place implies that police are in fact Racial Profiling, rather than performing Proactive Policing, or what we once called Aggressive Patrol, before the term Proactive came into fashion. Chicago and many parts of this nation are segregated by Race and Economics. If you work in the 003rd Dist. and you are doing stops on Gangbangers; All of your stops will be on Black "Folks" and "People", that is it, plain and simple! And those People and Folks, anticipating that they will be stopped for every minor traffic violation will not carry their firearms. Now, cognizant that coppers, especially White coppers are reluctant to stop them, they will carry their firearms, and have them ready to use more frequently, and that is reflected in the number of people shot and killed. Anywhere in the U.S. other than Chicago, figures that exceed 2,000 people shot in one year, would bring down a municipal administration, but in Chicago we accept Rule rather than Governance! Secondly, the involvement of the ACLU and Peoples Law Office in the process of "monitoring" police activity clearly makes the situation worse. Any police officer, especially a White or Hispanic officer who thinks the ACLU is their friend is out of touch with reality. Finally, the whole concept of ISR furthers the Myth that what is going wrong in Black America is the fault of the police. Our City Council and most of all, our cowardly Mayor are willing to support the Myth, to take the heat off of themselves, their failed policies and wasting of federal funding intended to solve urban problems. So the issue here is beyond the ISR, instead the ultimate issue here is TRUST! Any bond of Trust that may have existed between the Police and their employer the City of Chicago is gone, for at least a generation of police. Older cops will teach younger cops how to do as little work as possible, and there will be nobody to teach how to do Proactive Policing. Meanwhile, the Cabal that manipulated the McDonald case for their own political advantages by Obstructing Justice, lays low until the heat is off. So Rahm misses the Presidential visit, and if he meets with Hillary, it will be secretly, because right now she too is trying to gain traction in the Black community with a hatred of police. But in the end, the victims and offenders continue to be Black and Brown, while the people who try to protect these people are forced to back off. When I was working as a Sgt., I attempted to inspire and lead my Officers to solve problems and to be bold and Proactive. Anyone who worked with me will tell you that our teams had a positive impact on the quality of life in our areas of assignment. However, if I were out there today, with this Administration, I would not hesitate to tell Officers to just answer your radio and protect each other first. And I am not afraid of Bully Rahm or any of his hacks, flunkies, or his gang from Wilmette, the El Rubens! Here is my name: Richard M. Aztlan, Retired Sgt. CPD, Star 1575. I have lived in this City far longer than Rahm and I will probably be here when he goes back to wherever he came from.

2/19/2016 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fraternal order of police?? Who? They haven't come out of their office since they got elected. Dean hasn't backed any officers up, except for maybe his son. Wouldn't surprise me if he made meritorious Sgt..

2/19/2016 07:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Public sector pension funds are grossly underfunded in places like Chicago and Houston, while private sector funds are struggling to deal with rock bottom interest rates, which put pressure on expected returns and thus drive the present value of funds’ liabilities higher.

Illinois’ pension burden has brought the state to its knees financially speaking and in November, Springfield was forced to miss a $560 million payment to its retirement fund. In the private sector, GM said on Thursday that it will sell 20- and 30-year bonds in order to meet its pension obligations.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-18/i-guess-its-food-stamps-400000-americans-jeopardy-giant-pension-fund-plans-50-benefi

2/19/2016 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My question is why in the hell do they get juvenile information gathered from an ISR. If my kid was stopped I would sue the pants off the city for disseminating that info and the ACLU for having it.

2/19/2016 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know if you were actually a good boss you would not be pressuring your Officers to write these ISR's. Write them when we have to, but not for the sake of generating activity. A good boss would recognize that right now it's time to circle the wagons and watch out for each other. How many different political figures and media outlets have taken their turn sticking CPD in the back in the past few months?! Now it is time to give them what they want by operating within the ACLU's parameters. Too bad you're a merit suckhole and you're already pressuring us for this garbage! You're going to get someone hurt, sued, or worse! Make the stops yourself! Lead the way! There's a star on your chest and a PDT in your car! What's stopping you suckhole?!

2/19/2016 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I mentioned this in a previous post on another thread. I don't understand how the CPD is giving the private information of citizens to a civilian organization without the permission of the citizens. If I was stopped by the police and then later contacted by the ACLU, I'd be asking why the ACLU has my private information and I'd be filing a lawsuit against the CPD for giving away my personal information without my permission. This whole situation is insane. I don't know why the department is involving the ACLU in their day to day operations in the first place. Why is the ACLU dictating department policy? You opened this can of worms Rahm. Grow some balls, quit pandering to these fucking crybabies, and let the police do their fucking jobs.

2/19/2016 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Why don't the Exempts do ISRs?

They drive around, they must see
suspicious people/folks.

2/19/2016 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay Fetal friends, and let the blood run in the South side because the ACLU and your mayor want it.

2/19/2016 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT. Ex PO S Dailey in the news again. Ack a hawl destroys many lives.

2/19/2016 08:40:00 AM  
Blogger MTS said...

I still don't see how the police department can legally disseminate official documents to a non-police agency in this day of identity theft. Do the people get a chance to approve/decline their information being shared with a civilian agency without their expressed consent? Where is the FOP on this? Why isn't this being challenged by anyone? So if I stop someone they can now plan to have an unwanted call from the ACLU? Pestering them? And if their information gets stolen/hacked? Who is responsible for it? FOP is such a joke anymore. Disability Dean is just that--disabled at the mouth.

2/19/2016 08:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For an agreement to work there must be a benefit for both sides. There is absolutely NO benefit to the police side of this lopsided agreement with the ACLU. Therefore we should break the agreement and do it in a way that benefits the department and the citizens we serve. If the ACLU is going to file a lawsuit then let them file it. They will anyway agreement or not.

2/19/2016 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our cards in the suburbs are half the length. We still aren't stopping people. It doesn't matter what length the card is, we're not giving the ACLU anything to use against us either. For the most part, stopping shitheads only resulted in fewer shitheads getting killed. It's rare that the shithead you stop is on the way to your parents house to kill them. He's likely just going to kill other shitheads. So by all means, let the bodies hit the floor.

If you think the crime has gone up in Chicago, you should try the suburbs. And I don't mean suburbs like LaGrange and Wheaton and Glencoe. I mean "suburbs" that are Chicago's dumping grounds (although many are generational dumps in their own right as well). It's not sexy to report on it, but if the media ever looked at the crime in Markham, Harvey, Robbins, Joliet, and other "suburbs" they would shit themselves. Total lawlessness. Just when you think policing in Chicago is tough, go there and do it with no partner.

The people are getting the police they asked for. Your suburban law enforcement family stands behind you. Regardless of whether they cut your stop card in half, don't do them. Let the hood eradicate itself. They are better at self imposition of the death penalty than we are at successfully jailing them under the reign of the current crook county (or any other) court system. I don't care if you take a dozen bags of heroin in Joliet, a dozen 8 balls in Robbins, or a dozen guns in Harvey. They will never serve any time beyond waiting for trial, if they aren't I-bonded the next morning. Let them kill each other.

Give Lemon Record a job as a cop and let him handle it. He knows best, after all. Same for all the other ACLU softballs. Let them try the job.

Answer calls for real people in real need. That's what we do. The few elderly, the few young families just too poor to live elsewhere that actually live within their means, aren't having babies to get another LINK or SNAP or WIC card and who go to work every day, they get 100% of our police service. Even pro-active police work. I will shovel their goddam snow before I stop Jo Jo doing a hand to hand at the Marathon. I hope Jo Jo's deal goes south and there's a double murder. But I'd hate for abuelita to slip on ice and break a hip while she's driving her grandkids to school because the parents have already left for work at 4:30 am. I will wave to unlicensed abuelita and tell the kids to have a good day. And I will wave at Jo Jo too. There ACLU, is that equality enough?

Also screw the bosses that are trying to run a con game to get you to make stops. Wow, what will you get out of that, besides sued? Will you get to be on a tac team and wear a baseball hat backwards and get a tribal tattoo on your bicep? Will he give you a paracord bracelet with a blue line on it? You know every other cop in the world laughs at your population of strokes that does that, right? You make $80+ k to patrol. So patrol. Don't lose your house or your freedom because you watched Training Day and the boss is telling you you're going to make a team with all these great stops of known criminals who will continue to engage in crime regardless of your lame ass stop. No one is impressed that you're wearing jeans to work. So does a carpenter. And he builds something useful.

Remember, the ACLU is glad there are fewer stops being made. Let's keep them happy, in Shitcago and the cesspool "suburbs".

2/19/2016 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc!' You are correct and I don't care if they change this shit to a one line card smaller than the current contact card
I still ain't stopping anybody and doing any kind of pro active police work because all that needs to happen is one person
Complain about the stop and the next thing you know I'm jammed up
Cause the superintendent the mayor and the aclu feel like well if this guy
Says it happen then wtf it must be true
So fired or in jail or whatever the fuck
I got 4 years left I'll be in the hole

2/19/2016 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Haven't done one yet. Never have, never will. And I will never give out a "receipt". What the hell are we, 7-11 store clerks.
"Hope you enjoyed your pat down sir. Please come again. And don't forget to rate us on the ACLU website before issuing the lawsuit and cr on ipra. You can go back to dope dealing now sir, you beat us this time. We spent too much time second guessing ourselves trying to figure out if we had enough multiples factors of reasonable articulable suspicion to stop you. Plenty of time to stash the dope and gun sir. This year you should make a ton of money."

Ohhh, a hunch is a hunch a bunch a bunch and no one can talk to the hunch a bunch unless of course the hunch's name is the famous 9.5

-west side old school copper
Safety first, family first folks

2/19/2016 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago Police are following all rules regarding street stops .
No suspicious activity , No Stop and Frisk .
Keep it up , no unnecessary street stops to the citizens of Chicago .

2/19/2016 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, your last line says it all, SCC. The Mayor, the Supt, the bosses. All lying. That's all they ever do to us. They lie. So they deserve nothing but lies. And these bosses better stop putting on pressure for these stupid ISRs, it's their bull headed ignorance that got us all into this mess in the first place. Shut up, close ranks with us or get out of the way.

Hey Rahm, the secret is out, the cat is out of the bag. Police are doing their jobs but with an eye to self preservation. There is no going back to the old methods of policing that at least kept a lid on the carnage and the thugs at bay.

There is no going back until police enjoy the same immunity from losing personal assets in civil lawsuits that judges and prosecutors currently enjoy. There is no going back until it is no longer the knee-jerk first order of business to indict and criminally charge police officers every time there is a controversial incident that hits the news, or even publicly comment about blue lines and codes of silence and police acting stupidly until (and try repeating and remembering these words) "a full, thorough and complete investigation has been completed".

There is no going back while the police are put under such scrutiny and while they are not given the basic trust and backing to do their duty.

And seeing as that none of the above is ever going to come to pass,

THERE IS NO GOING BACK, RAHM!

2/19/2016 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISR to Change?

You can bet if it will be revised SO MANY TIMES it will only make things much worse.

NO ONE will know the full correct way to fill one out or approve one.

A disaster in the making.

2/19/2016 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Mayor, city council and ACLU. You can't wreck the ship and throw everyone overboard and then say "oh we will now change the course for calmer waters. Please trust us". However, I believe there will be some idiots who will do the new ISR's. As for me; I Stop Rarely.

2/19/2016 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is my understanding the ISRs fall under the same laws as the TSS form we've been doing for years now on all traffic stops. Meaning they are not privie to FOIA. Suburban departments only fill out the required state form.

Chicago on the other hand, gave in to the ACLU and the rest of the liberal bunch. Since they are not allowed to view the state required ISR, Chicago agreed to fill out a duplicate form (seperate but same in digital format) and making the digital copy available for their viewing pleasure.

The state form must be filled out by law. The digital copy is to send you up the river.

Suburban Officer #235

2/19/2016 09:32:00 AM  
Anonymous stash the polski guy said...

laugh out loud. hey Anita! looks like the tribune gift wrapped one for you.

2/19/2016 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Coppers have to accept the fact that the ACLU picks and chooses the statistics they wish to promote, while ignoring the statistics that go against their arguments.

Case in point, the ACLU believes that the percentage of street stops should reflect the racial makeup of the entire city, not your district or beat. The ACLU will never change that opinion, and we have to accept that, no matter how ridiculous it sounds.

Therefore, Coppers have two choices, first, do not stop ANYONE for anything. No need for an ISR, the ACLU is happy, and no one gets sued or....

As ridiculous as it may sound, coppers should start balancing out their stops based upon the racial makeup of the city. Since the city is 32% White, 33% Black and 27% Hispanic, your stops have to reflect that.

Of course it will be an almost impossible task in 007 or 011, but doing so may keep you out of federal court.

2/19/2016 09:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How does Kim Foxx get the right to use the MC Donald shooting footage in political advertising. It is or was evidence last I heard, now it's entertainment or free advertising.

2/19/2016 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Change it all you want. Until you change the stupid communist law that goes along with it, it's just lipstick on a pig. No pun intended. Stay fetal.

2/19/2016 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shouldn't some of the information on the ISR be redacted before release? Or perhaps it all should be released to the public for publication in the local newspapers or some web site. Doesn't the public have a right to know who the police have contact with and where? What would the ACLU say to that. Do the persons stopped have any right to privacy on a simple stop not leading to an arrest?

2/19/2016 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If someone is improperly stopped by the police and they sue the city of Chicago and win the lawsuit, does ACLU get some of that lawsuit money?

2/19/2016 10:33:00 AM  
Blogger I Fart In Your General Direction said...

Fuck Tiny Dancer and DeEscalante. And while we're at it, fuck each and every last Bosshole who can't seem to abstain from guzzling the Fort Fellatio Kool Aid.

The very fact that this is an AGREEMENT between the City and the ACLU is all anyone with an ounce of gray matter needs to know regarding where the department stands in their support of the grunts in the blue shirts. The City did not HAVE to implement this bullshit, it CHOSE to do so to keep the Catered-To Constituency pacified. Regardless of how/when/if those atrocities are modified/shortened, you'll fare better to continue to avoid them at all cost.

The main premise behind the ISR is nothing more than pandering to the blacks (and to a lesser extent, the Hispanics), meant to further alienate and ostracize the police and LE in general. It's all part of a grand plan, orchestration of which went full steam ahead 7 years ago when Sparklefarts began his ruination of our beloved country.

As BCP so eloquently states: "police like you have no friends". At least until (If/When ?????) the pendulum swings back to our side.

2/19/2016 10:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets face it. The ACLU and other liberals are now responsible for a 100% increase in homicides. The rank and file should be telling anyone they can.
Start spreading the word.

2/19/2016 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SCC, why hasn't anyone mentioned anything about the DOJ possibly riding with officers in 007?

2/19/2016 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Melanie said...

As long as the ACLU, a non-governmental, non-elected, or otherwise non-accountable organisation is in the mix, I can't see how it matters what changes they make to any forms.

2/19/2016 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

never see this on the news in Chicago
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=45d_1455842399

2/19/2016 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a PO. I just took my concealed carry class. It is going to be a shitty summer.

2/19/2016 12:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if it does change wtf would you want to go near it, its a death trap for indictment!!!

2/19/2016 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they pressure you for ISRs report the Boss to the DOJ. End of problem.

The entire mess is their fucking bullshit anyways with all the cute methods they had to send their pawns out to run up contact card numbers. Kick guys off of teams, change partners, early car to late, dump out of unit. Meanwhile the juice club is showing off their new hairdoo and necklace on the 2nd floor.

What a steaming pile of smell poo poo. Stop blaming the DOJ for this mess and blame the ones truly responsible, #1 being Garry Lad who put all that pressure on the cammanders to get us seeing m/01s doing suspicious shit. Of course when the heats on to fill phoney quotas guys are going to find short cuts. When they just had the cards as a useful tool they were great and nobody beefed.

But these geniuses just had to turn them into quotas didnt they?

2/19/2016 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
How does Kim Foxx get the right to use the MC Donald shooting footage in political advertising. It is or was evidence last I heard, now it's entertainment or free advertising.

2/19/2016 10:05:00 AM

Answer: FOIA. You should try it sometime. I hit them up a couple of times. They must respond by law.

2/19/2016 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT, but speaking of the FOP meeting, did Dean hurl a profanity at a unit rep and then demand coppers to pay $20 for a pet's surgery? I'm trying to figure out how to view the meeting's recording.

2/19/2016 01:33:00 AM

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No, he told the unit rep from 014 to bring a message back to any PO that has a problem with him asking for money on his daughters behalf for a "dog surgery"........The message "F U". But he actually said the word. He realllly hates the rep from 014 because he asks gotcha questions all the time. It also shows that he also obviously hates PO's that think asking for money for this issue is classless and possibly against ethics. We're still waiting for a Ethics board evaluation.

2/19/2016 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact that Rahm Emanuel said to "fix" the issue shows exactly who is running the department--Rahm himself, not the superintendent, not anyone else (except possibly Shortshanks, who this commenter thinks is still behind the curtain pulling the strings around here).

Meanwhile, it should be considered what will will happen when Rahm decides not to run for mayor next election, who will sit on the throne on the 5th Floor. Prickwenkle? Noooo .... maybe Shortshanks's nephew Patrick Daley Thompson? The writing is on the wall for all who want to read it. PDT gets his political experience at the water reclamation district for a term, then the 11th Ward Alderman steps down out of the blue for no reason, then PDT gets elected to that spot. . . . and he's been quiet . . . . too quiet . . . . . dark clouds are on the horizon for Chicago

2/19/2016 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"forms in the suburbs are “half the length as those in Chicago.”

LOL, maybe that's due to burbie LEO only being 1/2 as RayCis as CPD ???? Hmmmmmmm, Rahm ????? Cum'on Rahm, u know it's true, u r a committed h8ful Alinskyite Social Fascist so u gotta know it


be smart, stay in your car or better yet do your whole shift in a booth at a good Donut Shop....Don't do anything that would require you to fill out endless, useless forms

2/19/2016 12:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU bottom feeders have a problem with this guy saying "heathen" . Boooaaaaahahah.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/02/19/louisiana-captain-warns-gang-members-will-be-hunted-in-viral-video.html?intcmp=hpbt3

2/19/2016 12:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ISR controversy plus the Ceding of Policy Control of CPD to
DOJ & ACLU & #blm Mob, has put Rahm in quite the political pickle.

We're witnessing the very best of "unintended consequences."

Rahm desperately trying to put shit back after it's been excreted.
And his fellow travelers at the ACLU aren't letting him because
they have what they've lusted for. Firm control of CPD.

Keep giving them the bland, flavorless, unsexy, lawfully minimalist,
non-numbers driven, arms length Policing they deserve.

2/19/2016 01:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a question, if any PO's are questioned by say, IAD, do they have to fill out an ISR?

2/19/2016 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just had to repost this because it made me cry-laugh .

A good leader would never ask his troops to do something he wouldn't do himself and would lead from the front. As it stands in 017 after threats from "The Valerina" the second watch will now have more zeros than the Japanese Air Force. We DARE you to deny us what is earned, just try and we'll own your house. Pound sand Valerina !

2/19/2016 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a novel and unique idea:
Why not just get it right the first time instead of fucking it up and then revise it?

2/19/2016 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 11th Dist King said...
So far I have done zero, none, not one ISR report. I am trying to get zero for the year.

2/19/2016 12:21:00 AM

I'm maxed out and just biding my time. So I'lll do you one better: I'll assure you I'll never complete a single one of those wretched, flawed forms in my entire career.

2/19/2016 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

now they are trying to throw out that law: FELONY MURDER RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stay Fetal and let the murders continue......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2/19/2016 01:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DOJ to investigate FBI?? Internal strife?





SHANE HARRIS
FOLLOW THE MONEY02.19.16 10:25 AM ET
Justice Department May Probe Alleged Bergdahl Ransom Payment
The department’s top watchdog is considering whether to review allegations that the U.S. paid for the soldier’s freedom, and what role the FBI played in his release.
The Justice Department’s top watchdog is considering whether to review the legality of any payments that the U.S. government may have made for the release of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl and what role the FBI played in efforts to free the soldier from captivity in Pakistan, The Daily Beast has learned.
The department’s inspector general, Michael Horowitz, wrote a letter to a member of Congress earlier this month saying that he had opened a “preliminary inquiry” into the matter, which concerns allegations that the U.S. government paid a ransom for Bergdahl’s freedom, and that in February 2014 the FBI sent a representative to the border region of Afghanistan and Pakistan expecting Bergdahl to be released.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/19/justice-department-may-probe-alleged-bergdahl-ransom-payment.html

2/19/2016 01:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is Too Late, way Too Late. The Issues here are far greater than the ISR, and if any Officer ceases to go Fetal simply because the ISR is changed; that Officer is a Moron. The vary premise that an ISR is necessary in the first place implies that police are in fact Racial Profiling, rather than performing Proactive Policing, or what we once called Aggressive Patrol, before the term Proactive came into fashion. Chicago and many parts of this nation are segregated by Race and Economics. If you work in the 003rd Dist. and you are doing stops on Gangbangers; All of your stops will be on Black "Folks" and "People", that is it, plain and simple! And those People and Folks, anticipating that they will be stopped for every minor traffic violation will not carry their firearms. Now, cognizant that coppers, especially White coppers are reluctant to stop them, they will carry their firearms, and have them ready to use more frequently, and that is reflected in the number of people shot and killed. Anywhere in the U.S. other than Chicago, figures that exceed 2,000 people shot in one year, would bring down a municipal administration, but in Chicago we accept Rule rather than Governance! Secondly, the involvement of the ACLU and Peoples Law Office in the process of "monitoring" police activity clearly makes the situation worse. Any police officer, especially a White or Hispanic officer who thinks the ACLU is their friend is out of touch with reality. Finally, the whole concept of ISR furthers the Myth that what is going wrong in Black America is the fault of the police. Our City Council and most of all, our cowardly Mayor are willing to support the Myth, to take the heat off of themselves, their failed policies and wasting of federal funding intended to solve urban problems. So the issue here is beyond the ISR, instead the ultimate issue here is TRUST! Any bond of Trust that may have existed between the Police and their employer the City of Chicago is gone, for at least a generation of police. Older cops will teach younger cops how to do as little work as possible, and there will be nobody to teach how to do Proactive Policing. Meanwhile, the Cabal that manipulated the McDonald case for their own political advantages by Obstructing Justice, lays low until the heat is off. So Rahm misses the Presidential visit, and if he meets with Hillary, it will be secretly, because right now she too is trying to gain traction in the Black community with a hatred of police. But in the end, the victims and offenders continue to be Black and Brown, while the people who try to protect these people are forced to back off. When I was working as a Sgt., I attempted to inspire and lead my Officers to solve problems and to be bold and Proactive. Anyone who worked with me will tell you that our teams had a positive impact on the quality of life in our areas of assignment. However, if I were out there today, with this Administration, I would not hesitate to tell Officers to just answer your radio and protect each other first. And I am not afraid of Bully Rahm or any of his hacks, flunkies, or his gang from Wilmette, the El Rubens! Here is my name: Richard M. Aztlan, Retired Sgt. CPD, Star 1575. I have lived in this City far longer than Rahm and I will probably be here when he goes back to wherever he came from.


Do everyone a favor & stay retired Old man. Nobody cares about your old war stories. Let the job go for Christ sakes! Get laid or something.

2/19/2016 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Being the police was cool. I really do miss it. (Still on the job)

2/19/2016 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

•The Department has not relinquished any control of our policies and procedures to the ACLU. The agreement does not provide the ACLU with any role whatsoever with respect to individual officers' compliance with the Department policies.
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The above two sentences don't even make any sense. I'd ask for a translation. Bunch of b.s. double-speak.

They've killed the police dept., and I don't think it can ever be revived.

2/19/2016 02:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Roytman if you are DEMANDING ISR'S grow a set and put it in writing, if not you will get zilch after your condescending tirade. If people listen to this clown they are crazy.

2/19/2016 02:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thankfully I retired just before all this shit hit the fan. But I'm wondering, if your ISR is not approved by your sgt., and you redo it, is there a record of the first draft? If so, that is all the more fodder for ACLU..."Well officer, you changed your ISR report, and changed what your report stated the first time. Why is that? Was it to cover your tracks because you actually made an unconstitutional stop?" Blah, blah, blah, even more ammo for them to go after you.

Like a poster said above, if you don't want to stop doing ISR's because you're supercop, at least stop doing them to keep from putting your family in jeopardy. What will they do when you lose your income, your house, and possibly your freedom? No shithead, no stop, is worthy jeopardizing your family. Stop. Think. Keep driving.

ACLU is looking for their first 'hang 'em high' copper. Don't let it be you!

2/19/2016 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Also at the FOP meeting, FOP never fought against these reports. When is was in committee down in Springfield, no one from Fop opposed the ISR reports. Fop is so out of touch!

2/19/2016 05:56:00 AM

$$$$$

Please Mark~!

If you were really at the meeting the state law was three times as long as it was when passed. FOP got to make significant changes to the original draft. It's the City and The Department that took this to the extreme with the ACLU. My team has worked the last couple of weekends with the guys from Cook County. Their contact report only had a couple of lines added to it. The reason FOP did not oppose the law was because they had the opportunity to exhort a lot of input on the final document. I'm unit rep and I saw it ask your unit rep was he a the last meeting?

Your either a goof or were not at the meeting Tuesday. Or are you posting bullshit because you plan on running for office? Sid Davis was at the meeting too. Haven't seen hide or hair of him in two years? The military man with no honor.

Hey Sid where are the 50 months of tape recordings of the board meetings you lost. Inquisitive mind would like to know.

2/19/2016 03:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah well get this... heard from a friend of mine that works in 012 that bobble head #1 is threatening to take one of the beat officers off that officers car because that officer has not "generated" enough ISR'S on that beat.(zero to be exact)... what a STROKE!! bobble head is & #2 the new plate reader car that should have gone to 1295 O.V, who has 22+ years on and been a great traffic guy, knows his shit, carries and has carried that district ( all watches) with his traffic activity was /is given to a henry car on days that has not 1 but 2 mngmnt hacks that have maybe 15 years combined on the job because as was told , which came from bobble head, that he wanted the car to be utilized by someone that actually is proactive and has "activity" really ED? you're a sorry P.O.S. who is no better than those mgmnt ass kissing girls you have working for you up in the front office of 012.... How are those ISR'S coming along? and why are you not picking on the "06" guys and your tact teams? they to good to take/handle jobs that historically would be assigned /given to them? that aint 07th district Kubi .. oh yeah how was that visit from the 9.5 digit midget the other day to the tact team? Do tell..... anybody?

2/19/2016 03:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's so windy all my ISR receipts blew away in the wind.

2/19/2016 03:50:00 PM  
Blogger Robert Peel said...

Anonymous said...
OT, but speaking of the FOP meeting, did Dean hurl a profanity at a unit rep and then demand coppers to pay $20 for a pet's surgery? I'm trying to figure out how to view the meeting's recording.

2/19/2016 01:33:00 AM


You wont see it because the goof who asks moronic questions at every meeting ask the mic be turned off first. Brock from 14th would have gotten a towel party in basic training to adjust his attitude. Be a man and leave the mic on.

To those in 14, you know he asks the recording of the meeting be turned off before he will talk at the mic? This way he can come back and makeup any kind of bullshit and tell you anything that goes thru that brain. My guess is he has lined his hats with tin foil too.

To you guys over in 14 tell him you want to here his voice on the meeting videos.

2/19/2016 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT- Why do they have certain units working 12 hour tours this weekend? Are they really that scared of the warm weather?

2/19/2016 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A huge part of the blame in this fiasco belongs to the Chief of Staff and General Counsel. Both are yes men who backed down from the Supt, G-Mac, instead of doing their jobs. If they couldn't get through to the Supt, they should have gone the next step and contacted City Hall. But these two sell outs didn't want to lose their spots. And it worked because they are both still there collecting paychecks.

The remaining blame belongs to the rest of the exempts who also did nothing. Stand up tough guys. You're the F'in police. Instead they all sold their souls for that gold badge. G-Mac is gone and you're left holding the bag of shit he left behind.

ACLU has no power of the police? Yes they do and I'm not going to be sued or disciplined while you sit a HQ making more money than I'll ever see only to make you look good. It's your bed, now sleep in it.


Well said sir. Also add a lot of good exempts left at around 50 years old rather than put up w Mr. New York. Quite a few good ones left early. Now you see some of the people they are promoting and grooming. God help us. Also. Since G Mac was fired. Not one of the exempts has ever brought up how they Plan on bringing up moral. Never discussed at Comp. Stat. Just more BS why one jag off shot another jag off. Look at the goof in charge of Area C. Now - Already blaming everyone for shootings demanding to know where everyone was at the exact time of the shooting blah blah blah. Berating subordinates ain't going to get people to do more

2/19/2016 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just saying (you already know), The Trib has changed the website viewing policy to 10 per month. I wrote you before about the Google search workaround, now it's as easy as cleaning out your cookies.
I use Ace Utilities.

2/19/2016 04:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In order to not be jackpotted, don't do any activity that requires an ISR. Writing a ticket or parker or making an arrest doesn't require an ISR and is still considered activity.






2/19/2016 12:56:00 AM

Do Bike riders that blow lights and stop signs. I do believe that mover is court time. And it IS a safety issue around the North Side and Central Business District.


Leave the Parkers to me between 6am and 2pm please and thank you.


You know who!

2/19/2016 04:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
My question is why in the hell do they get juvenile information gathered from an ISR. If my kid was stopped I would sue the pants off the city for disseminating that info and the ACLU for having it.

2/19/2016 08:01:00 AM

Thats an entertaining idea.

Couldn't be too hard to set that up either. Somebody get their kid to do something on view of a PO they know. Visible and Articulateable PC since it was On View. Do the ISR...wait for the ACLU to call.

Bingo...sue them both and watch the City have to kick the ISR and ACLU out of town due to the ACLU violating the civil rights of the juvenile.

2/19/2016 04:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So now the light is going to shine on the fact that there
is a "State Standard" for the ISR but Rahm thought it
would be cute to "stick it in the cops ear" by having a form
ginned up with all this "not state mandated" bullshit?

Damn...
Never seen a little maniacal girly-man back-pedal so furiously
with Karma up to it's gum line in his ass...

"GRRRR!
Chomp!
AAIIEE!"

2/19/2016 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Waiting for one of these university geniuses to identify and research The A.C.L.U. Effect.

2/19/2016 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I,m still doing zero!

2/19/2016 05:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do not blame Garry, he knew the agreement was a big bag a shit, Rahm , City Hall lawyers/flunkies are to blame for this monumental disaster that puts the safety of citizens in peril, Watch the skies !

2/19/2016 05:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes the ISR paper is ridiculous and long but even if it's changed we still have to follow the law regarding reasonable suspicion. The lawyers Feds IPRA bosses and ACLU will still be scrutinizing your stops. Do not lie or manufacture suspicion for the bosses. It's about you and your carreer not theirs

2/19/2016 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SCC:

I will be in Chicago next week on business. You can do all the ISRs on me you want if you give me a ride back to Midway Airport! I'll make your quota look good!

2/19/2016 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT. I saw a CPD TESTPREP poster up in the district for the detective test. Do yourself a favor and save your money. Big waste of time and money.

2/19/2016 06:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought it was a "reasonable police officer." Why would a librarian be conducting Terry Stops on individuals who were about to, just did or in the process of committing a crime. Now the fucking ACLU is gonna tell me that I was unreasonable. Fuck them, Fuck this mayor, and fuck this department for letting this shit get to this point. Fucking McCarthy is a pile of shit who fucks up whatever he touches and the exempt fuckers who sat around just waiting for him to leave instead of opening their fucking mouth and telling this piece of shit how it is, and collection their 160G a year, fuck them too.

2/19/2016 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What You Don't What To "Document" All The Details, of How You Violated Someone's Civil Rights ? Well, When It Come's Time For You To Appear Before A Federal Judge To Explain, "Line by Line" Your IRS Report. Do You Think Anyone From The Mayor's Office, Will Be Holding Your Hand ? Don't Forget About All Those Field Contact Cards You Made Out Under McCarthy. Do You Think The Feds Are Reviewing Them Now ? Wait Till The Justice Department Comes Down With Their Findings.
"LUCY !!!, YOU GOT LOTS OF EXPLAINING TO DO !!!
PS: Have A Nice Day ?

2/19/2016 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHAT PART OF ACLU DON'T THEY UNDERSTAND??? Yes the length of ISR is ridiculous, but 99.99% of the reason no one is doing them, is because they get sent to the ACLU. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE LENGTH, I CARE ABOUT GETTING SUED/FIRED/JAILED!!!!!!!!

2/19/2016 06:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU will be coming after us and soon to deflect the fact that they are to blame for the dramatic rise in homicides, it's never the liberals fault. Do nothing and let them kill each other, it's the only way.

2/19/2016 06:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic .... I wish CPD would put a public announcement like this out
http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2016/02/19/you-will-be-hunted.-you-will-be-tracked-police-chief-calls-out-gang-members-in-viral-video.html

Nota copper but love em' Ksc

2/19/2016 07:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some officers still have no idea that the ACLU has access to these.. Unfortunately too many stupid recruits are so eager to be "da police" that even those who can pick their district are going to shit hole districts. I am two year wonder if I can see it why can't you??

2/19/2016 07:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I came on this job many moons ago, a neighbor of mine, the midnight desk sgt in 011(retired and passed away years ago) told me...Do not EVER trust a white shirt, from sgt on up...they follow different rules, different contract, have more to lose. Needless to say those words helped me a handful of times
Remember, once in mgt there is no going back...they HAVE to tow the company line
Sgt's telling you to do nothing will deny deny deny...been there, heard that
Blue shirts only have each other

2/19/2016 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I run my name my exonerated, not sustained, and unfounded, CRs come up. To most observers it gives the impression of a corrupt,incompetent, or mean spirited person. They do not know that I have done a 20 year carreer and obtained 10 Bogus CR#s arrestng and writing tickets to thousands of offenders. Soon I will be changing carreers at a young age to pursue another field. A field that will give me great status. This may cause me significant damage in my field. I may not have the upper hand against those not experiencing this defamation of character. If anyone can suggest a good lawyer please respond.
Thank You

2/19/2016 07:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay fetal. F-m,

2/19/2016 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what it's like when politics run law and order i.e. The police

2/19/2016 08:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic good article on shtf (shit hits the fan web site )on pensions . read it and beware.

2/19/2016 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I guess Rahm does not understand the problem. The length of the form is not the major problem, the simple fact that the communist private entity ACLU is the problem. All this organization is going to do is the same thing they have been doing for the last 12 years with the blue traffic stop cards. They will look for some statistical anomaly so that they can accuse the Chicago Police of being a racist organization. The blue card was only suppose to be a 3 year study, so much for that 3 years it has come ant gone 4 times. Some fool is getting a grant to continue the bs blue card program so they will continue this indefinately. This ACLU bs should have never come to fruition. The city should never have given the ACLU access to the ISR's. The simple fact is that Lawyers are nothing more then spin doctors when it comes to words. They will go trough each ISR with a fine tooth comb and try and build bs statistics inorder to get referal fees from the private attorney they will refer their spin doctor stories and the city will settle each and every time. STAY FETAL AND STAY HAPPY.

2/19/2016 04:54:00 AM

Here you go, media types.
Here you go, Rahm's lackeys at City Hall.
Here is the simple answer.
It's not a 'job action', or a response to having paperwork to file.
It's the realization that a witch-hunt is being conducted, that people with an axe to grind are hell-bent on crucifying police officers, that the ACLU is being given illegal access to private information and is abusing that information for ACLU's vendetta-agenda.
The fact that virtually every sworn officer in Chicago feels the same revulsion for this ISR madness should tell you something is VERY, VERY wrong with the ISR program.

2/19/2016 08:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISR training refused to release copies of the material to those attending.

2/19/2016 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For what it's worth, I'm always happy to see CPD officers and I appreciate the job you do. You're in my thoughts and prayers.

2/19/2016 09:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can understand FOP Dean being silent, he has never stood up for anything, except padding his welfare, I mean salary. But where are those bad ass shit talkers, Bella and McDonna. All big men when bellied to the bar. Only concerned about the take home and salary bump. Ef you humps.

Only thing FOP provides is pizza when shit hits the fan. $12,000 x $50 a month for a few dozen thin crusts and kick backs to bullshite attorneys, right Paulie.

Wish we had that psyco Daugherty back. Least he liked the heat.

2/19/2016 10:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Chicago Police are following all rules regarding street stops .
No suspicious activity , No Stop and Frisk .
Keep it up , no unnecessary street stops to the citizens of Chicago .

2/19/2016 09:22:00 AM

Keep kidding yourself. Plenty of suspicious activity. No stop and frisk. Drive by Chicago and Homan or Madison and Pulaski and say things are OK.

2/19/2016 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
ISR training refused to release copies of the material to those attending.

2/19/2016 09:16:00 PM

Scared that some enterprising Coppers are going
to give them to the wrong people?

Dafuk maaann...
Who can be more "wrong" than the ACLU?

2/20/2016 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 014 district rep asks "gotcha question" because they are exactly that!-"gotcha questions". FOP does shit its p.o.'s its time for outside over site. To much corruption. His son will make merit Sgt. For heaven sake, and he hasn't done sh-t!

2/20/2016 02:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
When I came on this job many moons ago, a neighbor of mine, the midnight desk sgt in 011(retired and passed away years ago) told me...Do not EVER trust a white shirt, from sgt on up...they follow different rules, different contract, have more to lose. Needless to say those words helped me a handful of times
Remember, once in mgt there is no going back...they HAVE to tow the company line
Sgt's telling you to do nothing will deny deny deny...been there, heard that
Blue shirts only have each other

2/19/2016 07:23:00 PM

Wait a minute--you trusted what the SGT. told you? You failed to take your own advice? Lol. :P

2/20/2016 05:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats an entertaining idea.

Couldn't be too hard to set that up either. Somebody get their kid to do something on view of a PO they know. Visible and Articulateable PC since it was On View. Do the ISR...wait for the ACLU to call.

Bingo...sue them both and watch the City have to kick the ISR and ACLU out of town due to the ACLU violating the civil rights of the juvenile.

2/19/2016 04:32:00 PM

You can not possibly be this stupid and clueless. Asshat.

2/20/2016 05:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Just saying (you already know), The Trib has changed the website viewing policy to 10 per month. I wrote you before about the Google search workaround, now it's as easy as cleaning out your cookies.
I use Ace Utilities.

2/19/2016 04:13:00 PM

Can you post how to do that again?

Thank you.

2/20/2016 05:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

....... Remember, the ACLU is glad there are fewer stops being made. Let's keep them happy, in Shitcago and the cesspool "suburbs".


2/19/2016 09:05:00 AM


Precisely.

2/20/2016 06:54:00 AM  
Blogger Retired-On-Duty said...

Chicago Police are following all rules regarding street stops .
No suspicious activity , No Stop and Frisk .
Keep it up , no unnecessary street stops to the citizens of Chicago .
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Keep kidding yourself. Plenty of suspicious activity. No stop and frisk. Drive by Chicago and Homan or Madison and Pulaski and say things are OK.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sorry Pal.

If you went to ISR training you would know THAT IS NOT enough to make the stop.

I choose to keep my house and my pension.

You can go ahead and be a glory boy.
Ask your boss to type and honorable mention for you so you can show your mommy.

2/20/2016 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also at the FOP meeting, FOP never fought against these reports. When is was in committee down in Springfield, no one from Fop opposed the ISR reports. Fop is so out of touch!

------------------------------

Huhh?

Why should FOP care. It's management's (THE CITYs) problem

FOPs job is protecting workers rights and the contract. If homicides go over 1200 this year FOP should not give a shit. HIRE 4000 more coppers is what they should demand to save the pension fund.

2/20/2016 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Working tact cop here. I do ISRs only when I have to. I am 100% in agreement on staying fetal. But it's hard when you see someone that is dirty and you can't and don't do anything about it. I ve had 5 on the hood and wonder who could have shot me because I didn't search them because I didn't want to do 5 ISRs and answer at least 225 questions. The fact is ISRs are going to get a cop killed. Then when that unfortunate day comes maybe and I mean maybe the power hungry powers that be will realize they fuked up and change it. I am not going to be stuck writing ISRs that take a long time. But I will always have my gun ready for these savages. They are going to catch on. Why isn't this option "pat down conducted so that I don't get blown away and never see my wife and kids again" a damn option on ISR in reference to why a pat down was conducted. Those things are going to get cops killed. Stay fetal and watch you backs. We are all we have.

2/20/2016 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Rhaminator,I have a good idea on how you can lead us. Your CPD bodyguards, while driving you around should stop a few suspicious people and write some ISR's. But make sure that they note in the narrative that you were present and observed the suspicious activity.

2/20/2016 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When is everyone going to understand that ISRs are not done because they are so long to fill out and they are just there to screw over police but instead they are down because the officers refuse to violate the rights of the idiots. They do not have probable cause to go up to the gangbangers on the corner so they keep driving by. No ISR needed. And you, the officer are still doing your job.

2/20/2016 09:56:00 AM  
Blogger O W WILSON said...

I can understand FOP Dean being silent, he has never stood up for anything, except padding his welfare, I mean salary. But where are those bad ass shit talkers, Bella and McDonna. All big men when bellied to the bar. Only concerned about the take home and salary bump. Ef you humps.

Only thing FOP provides is pizza when shit hits the fan. $12,000 x $50 a month for a few dozen thin crusts and kick backs to bullshite attorneys, right Paulie.

Wish we had that psyco Daugherty back. Least he liked the heat.
2/19/2016 10:01:00 PM

************
Your post is ALL bullshit.

Angelo gave up the Professorship at Calumet College at about 90K. He rolled back the excessive salary Donahue started which Shields and Dougherty continued. Angelo voluntarily took a 40k pay cut and then passed a by-law making the lower salary permanent. And who voted against the at a general meet? The former members of the City-Wide team.

You pay dues for a lot more than pizza. I doubt you’ve been to IAD, OPS, or the new IPRA but working policemen have. The legal defense for next years trail may cost a half a million. But if you think your paying too much become a fair share member.

Dougherty is a complete mystery. My only explanation is he undermined the Shield’s administration at the behest of Mark Donahue. Bill ran on his knowledge and experience but failed to tell Shields about the “letter”. P.S. everything Shields said was proved true. The state lodge recently settled it’s side of the Shield’s lawsuit. Shield’s suit against the Chicago Lodge is still ongoing. Since Dougherty led the coup and violated the by-laws should he not bear the costs of a Shield’s judgment? I wonder how Billy feels abut being a pawn now? And how does Frankie D get off Scott free?

If you think slandering the present fop administration will help any of the former board members of ever being elected again you a sadly mistaken.

2/20/2016 10:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just made a donation to the ACLU because, they made my job easier. I encourage all my fellow Law Enforcement family to do the same.

2/20/2016 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogger Robert Peel said...

Anonymous said...
OT, but speaking of the FOP meeting, did Dean hurl a profanity at a unit rep and then demand coppers to pay $20 for a pet's surgery? I'm trying to figure out how to view the meeting's recording.

2/19/2016 01:33:00 AM


You wont see it because the goof who asks moronic questions at every meeting ask the mic be turned off first. Brock from 14th would have gotten a towel party in basic training to adjust his attitude. Be a man and leave the mic on.

To those in 14, you know he asks the recording of the meeting be turned off before he will talk at the mic? This way he can come back and makeup any kind of bullshit and tell you anything that goes thru that brain. My guess is he has lined his hats with tin foil too.

To you guys over in 14 tell him you want to here his voice on the meeting videos.

2/19/2016 03:59:00 PM
----------------
Your nuts, the reason why the kid has the mic turned off is only for his name and star number. If you went to the meetings you'ld know that Dean was the one that said that officers could do that when he established the recordings.

Also, ask Dean why he allows the video to be edited. It's interesting that it's always when Dean says something PO's on the beat wouldn't like.

2/20/2016 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

..not to mention that all of this has to be entered on to the computer before end of tour of duty. Let's face it. Ether we go back to old school policing or a lot of people will die this summer..there is no way around it. Bring disorderly conduct back. Drive around in a wagon and scoop everybody from a corner like it was done back in a day. Hands on policing. Liberal ass holes need to understand that. Yes everyone has camera and times are changing but stupidity is not changing

2/20/2016 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So why can't I sue the ACLU because they are making my job more stressful than it already is???

2/20/2016 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago police officers are hard workers however they are not stupid. FU ACLU

2/20/2016 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Wish we had that psyco Daugherty back. Least he liked the heat.

2/19/2016 10:01:00 PM"

Well you all know who you can thank for that

2/20/2016 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

city can make isr one line , we still won't stop , search or frisk any citizen unless our life is in danger de-escalation is alive and well
let the white shirts make a few illegal stops , isr reports and see what aclu can find wrong

2/20/2016 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So if you're not stopping anyone or doing ISR's (which I refuse to do as well,) then what are you doing all day on tact? You wanted to be on a numbers driven area of the department so you don't have to take radio assignments so how are you justifying your existence on tact? You have to be a softball to be on tact these days. I left tact about ten years ago voluntarily and you could never get me back there now. So what are all the hard chargers doing if they're not doing ISR's? Maybe tact should start answering radio assignments or maybe dismantle tact completely till this shit is sorted out.

2/20/2016 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They could put the ISR on a 3x5 card with only two lines..include a tear off Lou Malnatis Pizza coupon AND I still wouldn't do one.
A plate of shit is still a plate of shit no matter what the portion size. 9.5 made his bed with the ACLU, now he needs to lay in it.

2/20/2016 04:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

?????

Why does the "KID" want to keep his identity secret if he's not talking about bosses? Because he's a goof. And he's no kid when it comes to age only to maturity.

2/20/2016 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your post is ALL bullshit.

Angelo gave up the Professorship at Calumet College at about 90K. He rolled back the excessive salary Donahue started which Shields and Dougherty continued. Angelo voluntarily took a 40k pay cut and then passed a by-law making the lower salary permanent. And who voted against the at a general meet? The former members of the City-Wide team.

You pay dues for a lot more than pizza. I doubt you’ve been to IAD, OPS, or the new IPRA but working policemen have. The legal defense for next years trail may cost a half a million. But if you think your paying too much become a fair share member.

Dougherty is a complete mystery. My only explanation is he undermined the Shield’s administration at the behest of Mark Donahue. Bill ran on his knowledge and experience but failed to tell Shields about the “letter”. P.S. everything Shields said was proved true. The state lodge recently settled it’s side of the Shield’s lawsuit. Shield’s suit against the Chicago Lodge is still ongoing. Since Dougherty led the coup and violated the by-laws should he not bear the costs of a Shield’s judgment? I wonder how Billy feels abut being a pawn now? And how does Frankie D get off Scott free?

If you think slandering the present fop administration will help any of the former board members of ever being elected again you a sadly mistaken

*********************************************************************************** Dean is that you??? Stay off the blog Deano.

2/20/2016 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I came on this job many moons ago, a neighbor of mine, the midnight desk sgt in 011(retired and passed away years ago) told me...Do not EVER trust a white shirt, from sgt on up...they follow different rules, different contract, have more to lose. Needless to say those words helped me a handful of times
Remember, once in mgt there is no going back...they HAVE to tow the company line
Sgt's telling you to do nothing will deny deny deny...been there, heard that
Blue shirts only have each other

2/19/2016 07:23:00 PM

If you didn't know that before he told you, you're soft. Don't get yourself into something you can't get out of. If you're a dummy(hint, you probably don't have a partner) write parkers and traffic tickets. If you expect the Sgt to do anything other than tell you what the correct answer is to the question, then you are fucking retarded. If you can't figure out the balancing test, don't chase people, and if you don't realize the car you're in has a video camera, then you are too stupid to be helped. Nobody is going to write anything for you, if you can't do it, then don't. The correct time to wonder how to do something is before it happens. Try reading a case report, G.O.'s, or attending court and pay attention to the testimony. This is a job, treat it as such.

2/20/2016 06:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the tact guy putting 5 on his hood and just not searching them to avoid paper , you are dangerously ignorant. You arent doing anything but leaving yourself open to being assinated and fetal is not what your doing at all. Your calling the bluff of shitbags thinking somebody, something backs you...nobody and nothing doesoffice. Y

2/20/2016 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the working Tact Cop, if you are not willing to do ISR's then why do you have 5 on the hood. If you stop people and do not do the required ISR then you deserve whatever happens to you. Again, I can understand if you do not want to do ISR's but why then would you stop someone. Is it too much for you to do the ISR. So because you are too unwilling or lazy to do the ISR you are not searching 5 shitheads on the hood of your car putting you and your partner in danger of getting shot and getting jammed up for not doing an ISR if required. Again, don't want to do ISR's, Fine but then don't stop people.

2/20/2016 08:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of Mr. Billy Dougherty remember he was quoted in a Southtown newspaper article stating that Obama Care was a good option for retirees? Was he f-ing nuts? And he has cost this lodge along with his lawyer (RULE #0: The first rule about Paul Geiger is that you don't talk about Paul Geiger) a lot of money. Billy do YOU really want to talk about lawsuits? You know the Shields suit will end soon don't you Billy.

Billy will never win another fop election. If Billy wants to go back up to the microphone next month then lets drop the gloves. Billy made a total ass out of himself last month. He knows the other shoe is about to drop.

2/20/2016 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also at the FOP meeting, FOP never fought against these reports. When is was in committee down in Springfield, no one from Fop opposed the ISR reports. Fop is so out of touch!

The ISR Chicago does is not the simple stop form mandated by state law. Also at the FOP meeting you weren't there or you are a pathological liar.

2/20/2016 10:48:00 PM  
Blogger Big Daddy said...

I was wondering how long it would take someone to post a stupid,snide remark about the good Sgt Aztlan. It didn't take the idiot at 2:20 very long. Shame is the moron probably could have learned something from the Sgt. but he is too stupid to even realize it.

2/21/2016 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous last of the Dick's from A-6 said...

The thing that needs to be changed in this city is the political leadership. Who are the persons that are giving counsel and expert advice to the mayor, or does he still think that he is the smartest person in the room ? Time to start listening to some real subject experts with experience and skin in the game, for the good of every citizen in the city.

2/21/2016 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Thats an entertaining idea.

Couldn't be too hard to set that up either. Somebody get their kid to do something on view of a PO they know. Visible and Articulateable PC since it was On View. Do the ISR...wait for the ACLU to call.

Bingo...sue them both and watch the City have to kick the ISR and ACLU out of town due to the ACLU violating the civil rights of the juvenile.

2/19/2016 04:32:00 PM

You can not possibly be this stupid and clueless. Asshat. <<<<<<------ Super Detective right here: White Shirt material I'd bet.

2/20/2016 05:30:00 AM

I actually found it amusing to read.

He/she probably Forgot the /sarcasm I'd bet.

2/21/2016 05:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the idiot that was telling off the retired sgt...maybe you need to read over what he wrote and let it sink in. I don't even know who that sgt. was but the contents of what he wrote made a lot of sense.

2/21/2016 06:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And he has cost this lodge along with his lawyer (RULE #0: The first rule about Paul Geiger is that you don't talk about Paul Geiger) a lot of money. Billy do YOU really want to talk about lawsuits? You know the Shields suit will end soon don't you Billy.

Now I was at the Feb meeting last week and Dougherty was at the meeting and went to the microphone. He talked about prior arbitration decisions regarding the retention of CR's and only tactical officers working VRI.

He also talked about a lawsuit that was filed against a current board member. Dougherty claimed that the Fop was paying for this lawsuit and that it was a civil suit. Dean initially denied it, but eventually said it was occurring. Dougherty then talked about how much it was costing the Fop($65,000)and Dean wouldn't provide the answer.

Dougherty also talked about a second lawsuit involving a secretary named Mareno? He claimed that the Lodge paid her $100,000 and that the same lawyer that sued her has received a letter from her saying that her suit was false. Dean would not talk about the suit, said that he couldn't. Dougherty on the other hand was more than willing to talk about it at the microphone or after the meeting.

2/22/2016 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dougherty on the other hand was more than willing to talk about it at the microphone or after the meeting.

2/22/2016 08:24:00 AM


@@@@@@

I've learned second hand that when Angelo took office there were four (4) pending lawsuits from the Donahue/Shields/Dougherty tenure. I’ve learned this from both trustees that served under Shields and Donahue. We all know that society is sue crazy. Unfortunately there are non-disclosure orders asked for by the plaintiff ‘s. But there was one case settled while Donahue was president where FOP requested the non-disclosure agreement. Ask Willie boy about that!

2/22/2016 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where was Dougherty all of 2015? Real concerned about the union. Only coming out now to get his 5 meetings in. If no one in the Angelo crew brings him up on charges after the Shields suit is over I know guys that will. He and his guys tried to screw every copper in the city in order to stay in office.

2/27/2016 08:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where was Dougherty all of 2015? Real concerned about the union. Only coming out now to get his 5 meetings in. If no one in the Angelo crew brings him up on charges after the Shields suit is over I know guys that will. He and his guys tried to screw every copper in the city in order to stay in office.

That's actually a funny comment. Angelo wasn't at a meeting in 12 years and shows up only to run. I'm at just about every meeting and Dougherty was at meetings in 2015.

2/28/2016 11:28:00 AM  

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