One Day Strike Coming
- The Chicago Teachers Union voted Wednesday evening to approve a one-day “showdown” strike on April 1 — which will include a massive downtown rally — to bring attention to ongoing contract negotiations and the state’s education funding crisis.
“I think it’ll be a clear message. Based on the current organizing, we’ll shut this city down,” Tammie Vinson, a special education teacher at Oscar DePriest Elementary School said after the vote at the International Operating Engineers Hall.
You know what would also send a message? Rahm firing each and every teacher that walks out - not that we'd ever wish evil upon a group of people that sent pizzas to Ferguson along with a few bus-loads of supporters, is teaching anti-police classes and garners support from assholes who batter police during so-called "peaceful" protests.
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posted by SCC at 12:31 AM
117 Comments:
Reagan did it with air traffic controllers and they were needed he should fire everyone of them hire all new why not?
Fuck the teachers. All they do is cry about more money for the children which in reality means more raises for the teachers and the students are still no better off, with 60% grad rate. And the assholes are crying because they may have to contribute to their pensions. Fuck the assholes. On top of all that, their pension COLA every year is compounded. So fuck the assholes.
Let them strike and walk off the job - and NEVER come back.
It's not like they are cranking out a lot of Rhodes Scholars. Hell, they are not even cranking out a lot of graduates.
If we institute Pay for Performance in the CPS, teachers will have to start paying money back instead of collecting a check.
Performance doesn't mean "just showing up". What is the drop-out rate for CPS today? 45%? Higher?
Yeah, they deserve a raise -- NOT.
Amazing, they picked a Friday for the protest?
Who wants an extra day for their weekend?
I guess those devoted caretakers of the children want an extra long weekend.
I wish Rahm would fire those that walk out. Is that a fireable offense?
With all the pent up rage from the no murder Sunday, what's the over under on No School Friday?
My bet would be 3 dead and another 11 shot/stabbed.
Rahm ain't Reagan. Then again, Rahm ain't s--t!
A Springtime Friday with all the kids loose in the city?
What's the worst that can happen?
I'm for it, don't show up for work get fired! Maybe Trump should run CPS.
To hell with CPS. It's time to worry about our own. Blue lives matter!
Be safe!
Tammie Vinson
Emmet Elementary School
Learning Behaivior Specialist
2012 Salary
$76,953
Whoever is assigned to that rally, be very careful. CTU has aligned with BLM to get numbers for this rally and there is nothing either group would love more than to have an officer play into their hands. A great big F.U. to CTU and shame on every one of its members that participate in this illegal action.
I can no longer support a communist teacher's union. They can go fuck themselves. The waste, fraud, and abuse that goes on there is disgusting. The communist red shirts are even more disgusting. They demand more to do less and put out a failing product. Fuck them all, and their communist policies toward the police.
It would be awesome to fire all the CTU members who walk out on their jobs. It would be even better if they also put them on a Lock-Out list, not eligible for rehire. -Then applications could be taken for those who really want to teach to be teachers.
“I think it’ll be a clear message. Based on the current organizing, we’ll shut this city down..."
I think they've hit the ultimate fetal situation. Nothing but "confusion" and finger-pointing back and forth and filling out of forms if something goes down.
Five arrests at the massive anti-Trump riot? Let's aim for zero here.
Who is more foolish? The fool, or the fools that follow them?
I find it disturbing that the CTU is using the phrase "shut down" just like all the anarchists are doing at political rallies.
Identify each "teacher" at the downtown rally and subject them to the appropriate punishment due according to their rules and regulations. It is only fair.
I thought teachers were supposed to be smart?
Every time the CTU tries to make Rahm and CPS (and now Claypool and Rauner) look bad, it ends up biting them in the ass. Let's look at he last strike, what did the CTU win that they said they did? The only thing they won was the opportunity to make look Rahm look bad and go drinking early after a few hours of striking every day. THAT'S IT!!
Oh yeah, the CTU got its members a 7% raise over three years, which turned into a paycut due to the school day and year being lengthened. And, this pay raise ended up closing 50 underutilized schools in mostly black and brown neighborhoods and costing thousands of CTU members their jobs. Ask one of these teachers if the CTU helped them and they tell you the real answer.
Guess what folks? The CPS released a list of 300 underutilized schools in January. Gives what's going to happen to 50-75 of them in the near future? Yep, same old, same old.
This 'ill-advised' one-day walkout does is give Rahm the reason to push Rauner to ban teacher strikes in IL, like 38 states already do. And, it give more fodder for Rauner to takeover CPS and declare bankruptcy.
This one-day walkout has UGLY written all over it for the CTU and the teachers. And, if the brainless leaders of the CTU call for a mid-May strike, it's going to be all over for a majority of the 27,000 teachers (especially those making over $75,000). THINK air traffic controllers during the Reagan administration.
The bottom line is the CTU thinks they still have public support on their side. They're wrong here.
My advice to the CTU is to accept the fact their members will have to pay the full 9% pension pickup, not 2% as been the case since 1981, and agree to a 4-yr contract. A contract, where by the 4th year, their members would be able to recoup the 7% they claim to have lost for the pension pickup.
My only question is why didn't Rahm have the balls to pull this 7% pickup from the teachers in 2012? Oh that's right, he pulled the ability of the teachers to bank 325 unused sick days to get one-time payouts (paid at the rate of pay in their last year and not what the rate of pay each day was earned) and then, using those one-time payouts to enhance their yearly pensions by as much as $6,000/year.
Let's see, CPS teachers currently gets the 7% pension pickup, COLA, Step/Lane increases, and raises. All of this since 1981 and when many of the 27,000 are allowed to live outside the city on residency waivers and hired before Nov. 20, 1996.
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/steps-and-lanes-understanding-how-chicago-public-school-teachers-get-multiple-pay-raises-each-year/
I'm sure if Rahm fired all of them, they would all find other teaching jobs that pay an average salary of $73k. Schools in Chicago suck, they make bloated salaries, get a pension, have summers off, etc. go ahead and walk out. I hope you get fired. Try finding all of that in the private sector.
"Aril Fools"! There's Always a Slowdown when it involves education in this city...
April 1st fits just right for a strike. Nothing but fools in Public schools..
Looks like Tammie is learning from her special ed students instead of the other way around.
If the Chicago education system was a private corporation, it would have been out of business a long, long time ago!
just look at what a wonderful, sought after student they graduate. They should be ashamed when they ask for more benefits and money than anyone else in city employment. What the fuck is wrong with these people? They are acting as goofy as their students, thinking they are deserving more... Bunch of liberal, communist, self absorbed assholes.
Jeez, SCC. Thought you might have noticed that a lot of us are just pawns being manipulated by both the union and the district. If we don't strike, we can just let the district punch us in the face and lose $200-250 per paycheck. But if we do strike, then we're lumped in with the fringe loonies and anti-police crusaders. Nice choice, right?
They're getting no sympathy from ANYONE in the city.
Boo hoo-pay into your pensions and health care like everyone else that has a job.
They average $70,000 a year teaching kids how to make minimum wage. Screw them
Really!
how quickly we change sides if someone has a different opinion.
Anything that sticks a boner in RAHMS mouth is a good thing.
Are teacher dippy won't disagree.
Now what is the good ole FOP lodge 7 doing? They endorse nobody because all politician are off the police bandwagon. They do not donate to any campaigns because officer cried it was wrong. Hell the FOP can't even get 5 officer to work on any election let alone vote.
But it's all for the good of the kids!
I think the teachers are on their own now. Everyone I talk to are sick of hearing about the "poor" teachers. CPS teachers get paid damn well and contribute next to nothing for their pensions. It's time for them to share the burden. We contribute 9% of our check to our pension. They contribute I believe 2.5%. Sorry, but nobody is feeling sorry for you teachers anymore.
The CTU is ultra progressive an PC. A force to be reckoned with.
Not one single positive comment on chicago breaking news. Shows you everyone is sick and tired of these teachers and their BS. Tired of Karen Lewis.
Sounds like a bunch of fools wanting to play the fool on April fool's day. They'll feel even more foolish after pissin their pants waiting to be processed after being charged for their part in "shutting the city down".
Let them strike. That always works out well. What's the over/under on CPS kids getting shot that day during school hours?
Fire them! The strike is illegal! They are the BLM groups! They need to go!
Sorry...But absolutely no sympathy here. Hope you have to work a full 40 hour week, no more than a two week vacation, pay at least 9 percent into your pensions, have to physically reside in the City of Chicago and pass quarterly performance evaluations. or YOU ARE FIRED !!!!!!! You have been getting away with a great deal for decades. You have become the spoiled rotten kids that you teach...no wonder where they learn it from. You can strike and then hide behind the kids using them as scapegoats... Time to pay. Screw you Ferguson supporters.
I would rather see them strike for a week ! STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE That would change the political climate against us.
Agree with you on every level. But I also think it's high time there was a day/night long "blue flu"...strategically positioned to open some eyes.
The teachers were dumb enough to agree last time, it's easy to promise unions workers anything when you know your going to phase out or lay-off by privatizing anyways. Remember that when your voting all you union workers, just because a polictician promises dosent mean it's gonna benefit you. There was a reason for unions at one time, and the need is still there for some, but a large majority of unskilled union workers do not deserve what they get. Whenever I worked Union jobs it seemed the majority of workers that need the unions help were the lazy abusers, not all but most.
This protest will be violent after it's taken over by the "Black Lives Matter" cowards. It will be like the Donald Trump protests. "Black Lives Matter" protestors know that they have a free ticket from any Democratic administration to do what they want.
In the last CTU town hall phone meeting, many teachers who are married to cops complained about BLM participating in future CTU activities. I plan to be with my wife for next week's strike. Obviously if BLM shows up we will walk away.
Fuck CTU. Any free passes were gone long ago.
The teachers union is communist/transgender/feminist/anti-Trump.
Many teachers are good.
Many teachers agree with the teachers union.
Got it. It's a fight for America and they think they're gonna win.
Half of these teachers live in suburbs
That CPS carcass has just about been picked clean by now. Years of clouted contractors providing substandard service. An administration overstuffed with Assistant Coordinators and Project Facilitators. Testing strategies rigged to produce whatever results the Dept of Education demands. Building and infrastructure maintenance that Mogadishu would die for.
It's almost all gone. The jackals are fed and the vultures are now circling in for the scraps.
As much as I respect and admire teachers, especially at my children's school, I am having a hard time supporting them. They have pay and benefits that do not equal the work, and is more than private or suburban teachers. They do not pay into their pension as much as we do. I can't feel sorry for them especially when the rest of the city gets screwed every contract.
They support Democrats and that is who screws them every time. They support police haters and criminals, who in turn do not support them back. Now they have turned their back on the police. Good luck with that CTU and teachers, you have no friends left.
I wish he would fire them. My wife needs a teaching job
President Reagan did it to the Air Traffic Controllers when they went out on strike. He fired them on the spot and immediately hired new bees. Dump the Teachers the same way....cause its good for the children. Plenty of new, bright, enthused college graduates waiting in the wings to bring fresh ideas and fresh approaches to the skill of solid teaching. Where there's a will, there's a way. Dump Striking Teachers!!!
All you have to look at is the photos of the protesters to see in the not so distant future Chicago will be just like Detroit, Baltimore, Cleveland, Newark. Notice any similarities between those towns?
Wooo hooo!
Three Day Shit-Show!
They strike because they can and should never ever give up that right unlike some others that folded years ago like a cheap lawn chair......
Theyre alone, stabbed us in the back and if fop stands with them then deano and the FlOPs deserve to go too
SCC,
The CTU doesn't speak for every teacher. We pay dues and they use that $ as they choose. We didn't tell them to send pizza to Ferguson. I certainly don't teach antipolice rhetoric in MY classroom, because it has no place there or anywhere. Many of us are as disgusted as you. When we speak up, we are seen as traitors.
Signed,
A teacher who pays dues but whose views are not represented
Anonymous Sol Rosenberg said...
I'm sure if Rahm fired all of them, they would all find other teaching jobs that pay an average salary of $73k. Schools in Chicago suck, they make bloated salaries, get a pension, have summers off, etc. go ahead and walk out. I hope you get fired. Try finding all of that in the private sector.
3/24/2016 06:17:00 AM
Tired of them and there "we are one" stupidity,as they send protestors against police everywhere,and then fat now insane karen having that punk that stared down coppers with her on stage! They are paid way above ability, produce nothing are off every holiday get 12 weeks off in summer,2 weeks Christmas,extra days at Thanksgiving,week off in spring and how many 1/2 teacher institute days? Yet they don't pay anywhere near the amount we pay into their pension system and get bloated pensions! Fire them all rahm if you had any stones, but your worried about that wedding dress!
Fire them! They are always complaining for MORE MORE MORE! Always threatening and strong arming the city. They have the best perks of all city workers. They get what they want every time while the police and fire work without a contract for years and come to work every day. They are lead by a hateful women. They could care less if CPS is broke and about to collapse. Fire them and hire new teachers for next year.
Screw them greedy jerks! Always crying. Strike strike strike. We will get are way or else. FIRE THEM!
Also joining in the walkout are a number of community activists, labor groups, and students. The groups include Grassroots Collaborative, Brighton Park Neighborhood Council, Fight for $15, SEIU Healthcare Illinois, Chicago State University faculty and students, Black Youth Project 100, Assatas Daughters, Chicago ACTS Local 4343, Pilsen Alliance, UIC United Faculty, Almalgamated Transit Union Local 308.
Lots of those groups have been heavily involved in police protests, and were in force at the recent anti-Trump rally.
Have fun protecting their free speech CPD!
Sorry, no sympathy from officers in this direction. They can march their social justice communist police-hating asses right into the goddamn lake for all I care. CPS is another bloated over-administrative bureaucratic waste of tax dollars. They want more money, go work a second job like everyone else, or cut these top heavy positions like vice principal, 2nd vice principal, dean, etc. and use that money to increase teachers' salary. Also, start auditing federal grant money to see exactly where all the funds are going in these schools. Last story I remember was about a storage room full of iPads meant for students which were all stolen and never recovered. Tax money should't be paying for shit like that in the first place.
As much as I love seeing Rahm being pushed around by CTU I can't stand a lot of the things CTU leaders have done recently as chronicled by SCC.
Anonymous said...
Agree with you on every level. But I also think it's high time there was a day/night long "blue flu"...strategically positioned to open some eyes.
3/24/2016 09:03:00 AM
How would you do this? You would endanger lives. I would be for no tickets and no arrest day and no stops and take your sweet time to non emergency calls, but that would be as far as I would go. i would not want to endanger life. Or are you saying call off sick for the day? I am tired of the police being the liberal punching bag, but that might be going too far. You can see what is happening in this country, a great swing to the left in politics. First Obama and now Bernie who leads all national polls by 15 %.The left wing democratic socialists are going to be running the country and that is not good for the working man and especially not good for the police. Trump does not have a chance. The demographics of this country have changed and without the black and hispanic vote you will not win a national election. And, Trump does not have those and he is losing the female vote.
It's always special to hear my neighbor, a CPS teacher, say that he's voting demo no matter what. "I'll pay more in taxes to help ppl." My response is pay more for your pension and see an actual return bc it's your pension. What return do you see with higher taxes? Zero. More money going towards useless ppl. He didn't have a response. Mic drop bitch
I'm sure 80% of you reading this have no idea just how much work goes into being a Teacher. The good old days that we think Teachers have are long gone. Take the time and ask one of your fellow Officers whose married to a CPS Teacher. The CTU alignment with blm and other anti-Police groups was forced onto the rank and file without any input. Most Teachers on the N/W Side have indicated that that will not march or support the CTU with these other groups. I have been a CPD officer for 21 years both in Patrol and in specialized Units and have been married to a CPS Teacher for well over 2 decades and have watched the school system be turned into a public housing/daycare/free food institution.I see first hand what a Teacher goes through to prepare for work.The perks of being a Teacher are long gone, along with most their holidays and paid summers off so Please get over it. I am just as frustrated and upset with the CTU and their Union Boards decision to join these Police haters and have phoned,e-mailed and written with no response.Its kind of like FOP Lodge 7 and the city council, The bigwigs make the deals with the devil and us blue shirts shovel the shit....
There are a lot of good teachers. Teachers who actually support the police. I hope for those teachers they get whatever they can. I can't stand K Lewis and all her bullshit. But I don't lump all of them together. Good luck to the teachers who are our friends
....love the cheap lawn chair analogy....
I am a retired teacher and my husband is retired CPD. CTU is a union not an agent of social change. A s a former school delegate etc I do believe Karen Lewis and her slate made an error in supporting BLM. Delivering the pizzas was just plain stupid. Many CTU members do not support the stance CTU has taken.
I had to call the police twice in 38 years and both times I was very glad the police arrested the students. I guess I am disheartened by the vitriolic comments on this site. Your job is hard, if not impossible these days but I would never lump all police together as some on this site have done to the teachers.
CPD has job fairs and the line goes around the block. CPS has job fairs and no one comes-CPS has had to recruit teachers from foreign countries and even with the visa they dont stay in CPS. If CPS ever offered 20 years and out and eliminated the age penalty which is 6% a year for every year you are under 60 unless you have 34 years I believe CPS wouldn't be hard pressed to fill vacancies in the rough schools.
There are many sharp teachers in CPS who could teach anywhere but view teaching in CPS as a calling as Im sure there are many in CPD who could get hired in the suburbs for more money but also choose to stay. We need to stop the name calling.
The teachers when they come back on 02 April, should get a pink slip and escorted out of the buildings!
Teachers Union has thrown the police under the bus long ago and don't deserve our support! Bunch of Commie bastards!
Don't forget to figure in when you put their salaries in that they have 3 months summer and an additional cumulative month during the school year. When some these younger kids get hurt well see.
Most teachers aren't BLM supporters. They have worse admin. than the police department. Shame on you for shitting on them.
As I consider all of the issues with public pensions, I reviewed my railroad retirement. No worries here, our fund is completly funded by rail employess. No government or employer contributions. Currently at a little north of 42 billion. We pay a soical security equivelient percentage, plus additional 4 percent. Fund your own pension!
I am a teacher, and I am against this day of foolery. Looking at the other groups that are taking part, this has been in the works for quite awhile and has nothing to do with a fair contract.
Look who else is taking part in the April Fool's Fest already (list given by CTU):
Labor Groups:
University Professors of Illinois local 4100
Northeastern University Illinois Faculty Union
Chicago State University Faculty Union
Fight for $15
United Electrical Workers Western Region
Alliance of Charter School Teachers and Staff 4343
SEIU Healthcare Indiana, Illinois and Missouri
Cook County College Teachers Union local 1600
Amalgamated Transit Union local 308
Jobs With Justice
Community Groups:
Grassroots Collaborative
Teachers for Social Justice
Grassroots Education Movement
Kenwood-Oakland Community Organization
Brighton Park Neighborhood Council
Enlace
BYP100
Black Lives Matter Chicago
ONE Northside
Parents for Teachers
St. James Lutheran – Acts of Love
Village Leadership Academy
Journey for Justice
Black Scholars for Black Lives
Northside Action for Justice
Logan Square Neighborhood association
Communities United
350 Nation
Bridging While Black
Love & Protect
Black on Both Sides
I looked up the community group Teachers for Social Justice - http://www.teachersforjustice.org/
This quote is from their site -
"April 1 in Chicago will be a day of mass action against austerity politics, racist violence, anti-immigrant and Islamaphobic attacks, the savaging of human needs in Illinois, growing poverty, attempts to smash unions, and economic violence against the vast majority of people in our state. And, it will be a day FOR justice, redistribution of wealth, progressive revenue solutions, full funding of our schools and human needs, and racial and social justice."
To see the radical flyer that CTU posted about two weeks ago or to read more about how CTU gave up its "pension pick-up" perk in our last contract, (so glad that strike worked!), go to http://lisatortorello.blogspot.com/
If they strike who is going to fertilize the tender minds of Chicago?
Andy Shaw? Bwaa ha ha! He's the guy that ran that illegal B and B without a hotel, liquor or food license. When called to task by the Daley administration he threatened to expose them and nothing further was heard, while at Ch 7.. And where is he now?
Fuck you CTU and CPS. My kid goes to a good public school but all this bullshit going on and 34 kids in her room she is going to a catholic school next year, btw FU blm
After a couple of weeks of finding an alternative to sending a child to a Chicago Public School, would anyone even notice? Leaving the kids home alone with an ill tempered pit bull would probably be better than sending a kid to a CPS. Go strike, don't come back. We will all be better off in the long run
Who knows, for that one day the kids might actually be able to learn something.
Remember the headline of their last union newsletter "TEACHING LAQUAN McDONALD"! If you asswipes had actually "taught" him anything, maybe he'd still be alive today!
Fuck the teachers union and their leader. To think that I considered voting for that loon if she ran for mayor makes me sick. Boy did we dodge a bullet. Here's an idea...contribute your fair share you bunch of whiners.
About the only thing CPS has going for it is the selective enrollment schools. The majority of the teachers that work at these schools are leaps & bounds over their counterparts in the "neighborhood" schools in terms of providing quality education to the children. Look no further than where these schools rank locally and nationally in terms of academic achievement. What you have to realize though is that these are the kids that are extremely bright and go through pretty rigorous testing to even be offered a seat at one of the schools. The teachers there as a rule don't have to put up with the ignorance that usually accompanies teaching CPS students. THESE are the teachers I hate to see get thrown in the mix because they understand the importance of the education they're actually providing. And the ones I've personally had contact and interaction with when my kids went through the classical programs were dedicated, genuine educators. So in my opinion CPS in it's entirety is not a lost cause, they just have their assholes like we at CPD do.
Now these greedy over paid teaches will cost tax payers even more because the city announced that they will be opening and staffing places all over the city to accomodate the kids that have no where to go. Karen Lewis will destroy CPS. FIRE ANY TEACHER THAT DOESN'T GO TO WORK! They're always strong arming every one. Sick of it!
Screw the greedy cry baby teachers! Go march with BLM and the Ferguson fools along with your hateful scumbag leader. I hope rahm fires you all.
Scew them! They pay very little into their pension. Way below the average. Go strike and march with your jerk leader Lewis and the BLM racists. Buy them pizzas too. Hope you get fired!
I'd like a one-day's worth of refund of the CPS portion of my real estate tax bill.
What the frig are we paying 1/2 our taxes on... Acorn protester fees or lazy stay in bed teachers?
6:05am 3/23 "I thought teachers were supposed to be smart". I hope your opinion is rightfully held by a minority of minds. Some teachers in CPS are of course however it seems based on what they demonstrate in public, most are merely members of organized labor. Much like members of the Teamsters Union, SEIU or Laborers as some examples. They are not professionals, rather they behave like...like laborers. I cannot understand why so called professionals would ever align themselves with members of black lives matter and other left wing groups unless they are receiving funds to their CTU coffers from Move on Org or other influence peddlers. Nothing irritates me more when someone like Karen Lewis gets the better of Rahm because I thought Rahm the smarter of the two. Then I got it one day, he just lets her play him so he can give them a good contract and he in turn gets the support of the teachers. It is all a show. Damn.
CPS teachers = scabs.
Too many cps students cant read or write.
Fire the current cps teachers and hire a young bleeding liberal one at half of the cost.
"It's all for the children"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I wish he would fire them. My wife needs a teaching job
3/24/2016 10:54:00 AM
Tell her to stay the fuck away from CPS. Even if they did fire everyone, Karen Lewis and her band of leftist, agitating, BLM loving, police hating commies would still be in charge. CPS is a sinking ship. RUN AWAY!
Hope your BLM paid stooges can protect you.
You're painting ALL the teachers with the same brush. Just as we complain the public does to us Give the teachers a break already
Anonymous Anonymous said...
About the only thing CPS has going for it is the selective enrollment schools. The majority of the teachers that work at these schools are leaps & bounds over their counterparts in the "neighborhood" schools in terms of providing quality education to the children. Look no further than where these schools rank locally and nationally in terms of academic achievement. What you have to realize though is that these are the kids that are extremely bright and go through pretty rigorous testing to even be offered a seat at one of the schools. The teachers there as a rule don't have to put up with the ignorance that usually accompanies teaching CPS students. THESE are the teachers I hate to see get thrown in the mix because they understand the importance of the education they're actually providing. And the ones I've personally had contact and interaction with when my kids went through the classical programs were dedicated, genuine educators. So in my opinion CPS in it's entirety is not a lost cause, they just have their assholes like we at CPD do.
3/24/2016 07:11:00 PM
Um, the fact that kids in selective enrollment schools have to pass rigorous tests just to get a seat means that they are already extremely high performing students. The SE teachers did not get them to that level; they were already there! And you can thank their elementary school teachers and their parents for that!
And the fact that these teachers don't have to deal with the typical CPS ignorance means that they understand the importance of education? So teachers who aren't fortunate enough to have elite, well prepared students don't understand the importance of education? Really?
There are weak and strong teachers at all CPS schools. Working at a SE school doesn't automatically make you a good teacher; many SE teachers would falter at neighborhood schools.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There are a lot of good teachers. Teachers who actually support the police. I hope for those teachers they get whatever they can. I can't stand K Lewis and all her bullshit. But I don't lump all of them together. Good luck to the teachers who are our friends
3/24/2016 03:26:00 PM
Thank you for your voice of reason. I am teacher and want nothing to do with this nonsense.
Whether or not you like Karen Lewis or the political path the CTU has taken this year, there's a faulty argument that needs to stop.
Arguing that CPS teachers create students who can't perform well is the same thing as arguing that CPD officers create people who can't obey the law.
The state will soon take them over.
It's a lose lose situation for rank and file. Apathetic teachers did not show up to meetings held in their buildings, then their delegates voted based on those vocal members, and now everyone is up in arms.
What's clear is that teachers and students are stuck in the middle of an insane political battle between Karen Lewis and the Rahm/Rauner. It's turned into who can put their foot on the gas hardest.
CTU's alignment with anti-police, BLM protest groups has done irreparable harm. Karen Lewis's election is in May, if there was anyone opposing her, I'd vote for them.
Ooooo, oooooo, oooooo. Can I get a purple SEIU t-shirt if I march. I can then be just as important as all the illegals.
Shame on you SCC and all the rank and file on this site that bash the CTU and more importantly the teachers. I've followed this site for years and have listened to SCC and rank and file officers bitch and moan about Daley, Rahm, Weis,McCarthy, FOP leadership, etal. All the complaining and all the crying and nothing gets done. No stand is taken, no action is put forward to change what it is you complain about. Now the CTU and its leadership is standing up against some of the evils you speak of and you bash them. The only person in this town with a set of nuts is Karen Lewis. You should draft her as the president of your local , quit your bitching and take a lesson in intestinal fortitude from her !!!
I say give them everything they're asking for, with one caveat. You will become a hourly/wage employee. Now since the average CPS teacher salary is $76k, thats about $36/hour. You have to swipe in and out everyday worked. No swipe, no pay. Lets have them do that for a year and watch them beg for year round school. You have the audacity to ask for more than what you have now and you're off for the summer. 2.5 months in the summer. 2 weeks in the winter. 1 week in the spring. Factor in the other holidays for another 10 days. You're off almost 4 months out of the year and you want more. Wow.
"Shame on you SCC and all the rank and file on this site that bash the CTU and more importantly the teachers. I've followed this site for years and have listened to SCC and rank and file officers bitch and moan about Daley, Rahm, Weis,McCarthy, FOP leadership, etal. All the complaining and all the crying and nothing gets done. No stand is taken, no action is put forward to change what it is you complain about. Now the CTU and its leadership is standing up against some of the evils you speak of and you bash them. The only person in this town with a set of nuts is Karen Lewis. You should draft her as the president of your local , quit your bitching and take a lesson in intestinal fortitude from her !!!"
3/25/2016 10:11:00 AM
No, shame on you. Karen Lewis is an avowed communist. She may have a set of balls like you say but that doesn't mean she is good for the CTU.
Whether or not you like Karen Lewis or the political path the CTU has taken this year, there's a faulty argument that needs to stop.
Arguing that CPS teachers create students who can't perform well is the same thing as arguing that CPD officers create people who can't obey the law.
3/25/2016 08:08:00 AM
No, actually that would be the CPS too. The inclination to follow rules is learned way before the police ever encounter an individual. You failed philosophy.
"I say give them everything they're asking for, with one caveat. You will become a hourly/wage employee. Now since the average CPS teacher salary is $76k, thats about $36/hour. You have to swipe in and out everyday worked."
Umm, you just accurately described our job. We DO swipe in and out every day. I've been teaching in CPS for 10 years and my instructional rate is $32/hour. A little more than double the $15/hour minimum wage the fast food workers are pushing for (and I'm still paying off my student loans). We don't get paid during the time off you mentioned. What's your point exactly?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Jeez, SCC. Thought you might have noticed that a lot of us are just pawns being manipulated by both the union and the district. If we don't strike, we can just let the district punch us in the face and lose $200-250 per paycheck. But if we do strike, then we're lumped in with the fringe loonies and anti-police crusaders. Nice choice, right?
3/24/2016 07:21:00 AM
Lose $200-250 a paycheck? This sounds like total b.s. to me......exaggerate much?
Rahm could save millions if he fires every teacher that participates in an illegal strike . Grow a set , get rid of the over paid baby sitters .
Anonymous said...
I say give them everything they're asking for, with one caveat. You will become a hourly/wage employee. Now since the average CPS teacher salary is $76k, thats about $36/hour. You have to swipe in and out everyday worked. No swipe, no pay. Lets have them do that for a year and watch them beg for year round school. You have the audacity to ask for more than what you have now and you're off for the summer. 2.5 months in the summer. 2 weeks in the winter. 1 week in the spring. Factor in the other holidays for another 10 days. You're off almost 4 months out of the year and you want more. Wow.
3/25/2016 11:42:00 AM
As the husband of a Chicago teacher, being paid for the hours swiped in is a excellent idea. My wife starts at 0630 hrs to make family phone calls. Then will leave work at 4PM after working with students who need help. But what about the hours at home creating, amending and updating lesson plans? Grading papers and keeping a web site, Gradespeed updated daily? Or does mandatory work at home count under your plan? Teachers are forced or strongly urged to donate time for meetings with parents, enrolling new students and maintaining clubs for students? Every week assistant principals are changing lesson plans and want everything documented and duplicated. Working a beat car for 8.5 hrs and doing nothing but answering service calls sounds easy.
"Scew them! They pay very little into their pension. Way below the average. Go strike and march with your jerk leader Lewis and the BLM racists. Buy them pizzas too. Hope you get fired!
3/24/2016 08:23:00 PM"
Compared to Downstate Teachers who contribute ZERO to their pensions and are subsidized by you and the rest of the Illinois Taxpayers. By the way these are your fellow Republicans.
Sit & Spin on your Pizza,Stroke!
The Kronos system is used for swiping in and out. It has been used for several years now.
Administrators, paraprofessionals, food service, custodians, and teachers know that not swiping in and out properly in a pay period can mean less money on payday.
"Lose $200-250 a paycheck? This sounds like total b.s. to me......exaggerate much?"
Nope. I make 62K per year, 10 month year. 7% less per paycheck is $215. Even a CPS student can do that math.
If the media would provide positive information more often, then you ill-informed individuals would better understand the whole picture. 1. We do have Rhodes Scholars, Gates winners 2. There are, International Science fair participants. 3. We do have students who complete 4 years of college at Yale, Princeton, MIT,as well as VCU,Howard,UIUC, UIC, Loyola etc.4. There are students who travel abroad as part of their language programs. So not ALL of us are "babysitters ".
And for the hourly wage comments, we are hourly wagers when it is convenient for CPS.
As the husband of a Chicago teacher, being paid for the hours swiped in is a excellent idea. My wife starts at 0630 hrs to make family phone calls. Then will leave work at 4PM after working with students who need help. But what about the hours at home creating, amending and updating lesson plans? Grading papers and keeping a web site, Gradespeed updated daily? Or does mandatory work at home count under your plan? Teachers are forced or strongly urged to donate time for meetings with parents, enrolling new students and maintaining clubs for students? Every week assistant principals are changing lesson plans and want everything documented and duplicated. Working a beat car for 8.5 hrs and doing nothing but answering service calls sounds easy.
I hope she doesn't teach Time Management
As the husband of a Chicago teacher, being paid for the hours swiped in is a excellent idea. My wife starts at 0630 hrs to make family phone calls. Then will leave work at 4PM after working with students who need help. But what about the hours at home creating, amending and updating lesson plans? Grading papers and keeping a web site, Gradespeed updated daily? Or does mandatory work at home count under your plan? Teachers are forced or strongly urged to donate time for meetings with parents, enrolling new students and maintaining clubs for students? Every week assistant principals are changing lesson plans and want everything documented and duplicated. Working a beat car for 8.5 hrs and doing nothing but answering service calls sounds easy.
You're comparing grading papers and prepping lesson plans to responding to answering shots fired, man with a gun, mental off his meds, domestic fights etc, service calls? You cannot possibly equate the two. And if the educational administration expects teachers to run extracurricular activities, then yes, they should get paid for their time running those programs. Otherwise, get the parents to donate their time and run those programs. If teachers want to get paid for lesson prep and grading/reviewing work then they can stay on the clock and get paid for it while at school. Of course anyone who works should get paid for their time, but that comparison meant to diminish what we as police deal with on a daily basis was way off.
You're comparing grading papers and prepping lesson plans to responding to answering shots fired, man with a gun, mental off his meds, domestic fights etc, service calls? You cannot possibly equate the two. And if the educational administration expects teachers to run extracurricular activities, then yes, they should get paid for their time running those programs. Otherwise, get the parents to donate their time and run those programs. If teachers want to get paid for lesson prep and grading/reviewing work then they can stay on the clock and get paid for it while at school. Of course anyone who works should get paid for their time, but that comparison meant to diminish what we as police deal with on a daily basis was way off.
That's not how it works. Teachers are paid for 7 hours per day, regardless of how many extra hours they put in. Some teachers stay until 5 or 6, but they still get paid the same as if they left at 3. Teachers put in lots of extra, unpaid hours at school and at home.
SCC, this post is complete hypocrisy. It appears you are assuming that all teachers support the BLM movement and Karen Lewis. It's the same as all the naysayers who believe all police are corrupt. Police officers, especially, should be more sympathetic to this type of inaccurate stereotyping.
If you want to see Karen Lewis talk gibberish, then watch this clip from Chicago Tonight from this past Thursday:
http://chicagotonight.wttw.com/2016/03/24/ctu-president-karen-lewis-explains-1-day-teachers-strike
CPS teachers have no chance with Lewis, Sharkey, Brunson, Potter, and the rest of the clowns who go into the CTU clown car.
If you want to watch Lewis catch her lunch even more, watch the Friday version on Chicago Tonight starting at the (1:51) mark
http://chicagotonight.wttw.com/2016/03/25/week-review-ctu-cps-clash-over-april-1-teacher-walkout
"If teachers want to get paid for lesson prep and grading/reviewing work then they can stay on the clock and get paid for it while at school."
That's the common misconception. Although we have to punch in and out, we don't get paid past the end of the determined work day. For example, my CPS day starts at 7:30 and ends at 2:28. I get paid if the same if I punch out at 2:28 or 5:28. So why stay at work? I'd rather bring my extra stuff home and do it there. But when students come for help after school, we don't get paid for that. We also don't get paid for after school meetings, which a lot of principals now like to schedule after school ends, so they can have us doing security during our prep periods. And saying "no" to things like security duty isn't an option anymore.
Teaching used to be a decent gig 10 years ago - not anymore. I warn all my kids' friends: don't be a teacher. And I'd kill my kids if any of them went into education.
As a CPS teacher, i've made it quite clear that i will NOT participate in a walk out on April 1st. I've no respect for our union or their strong arm tactics and personal agenda. In fact, they sicken me. Personally, I believe their hunger for power and strong armed tactics will come back to bite them in their keister. Additionally, how can they vote to walk out and leave the children hanging? As a public servant, our priority should be to serve the public. Thank you Blue for ALL you do... my prayers for your safety and well being remain.
"Teaching used to be a decent gig 10 years ago - not anymore. I warn all my kids' friends: don't be a teacher. And I'd kill my kids if any of them went into education."
3/26/2016 07:24:00 PM
Teaching still is a good gig. The problem is Daley and your CTU let the pension problem get out of hand. And, when Daley lost the Olympics, things got so bad he couldn't borrow from Peter to Paul and he said adios! Teachers blame Rahm for everything, but, the only reason they blame him is because he said NO! to all their great perks. now, the gravy train is on its way out of Chicago, especially as public support isn't on the teacher's side this time around like in 2012.
SCHOOL DAY & YEAR: CPS teachers had the shortest school day until 2013. Grade school kids were going to school at 0830 and getting out at 1430 (6-hr days, now 7-hr days) and high school kids were in school at 0800 and getting out at 1430 (6.5 hr days, now 7.5 hr days). The school year for students was also increased from 177 days to 181. (Whether Karen Lewis wants to admit it or not, the teachers did get a 7% raise from the last strike. The 7% raise was spread out over three school years an both CPS and the CTU agreed this raise as for the longer school day and year. Though, teachers got their calculators out and figured out the raises were actually part of a paycut due to the longer school day and year.)
UNUSED SICK DAYS: Teachers lost the ability to bank (325) sick days for a one-time payout at retirement. The payout was paid at the daily rate of pay teachers were getting in their last year of work, not hat each day was earned at throughout their careers. Then, teachers used their payouts to enhance their pensions by as much as $6000/year (known as PEP, Pension Enhancement Program). Now, teachers can bank only (40) unused sick days for time towards their retirement years and not for money. But, the grandfathered banked sick days can still be cashed out at retirement, just not used to enhance their pensions.
7% PENSION CONTRIBUTION BY CPS/RESIDENCY: This is the next perk CPS teachers will lose, whether they like it or not. The CTU agrees with CPS on slowly eliminated this perk and NO teachers see this a paycut. CPS teachers have been getting this 7% pickup by CPS and they've only been paying ONLY 2% towards their own pensions. This, while all other city employees must pay the full 9% and are forced to live in Chicago.
Currently, CPS teachers, admin, staffers, and other employees hired before November 20, 1996 can live any where they want as they're grandfathered-in with the old residency policy. And, there's thousands of teachers getting residency waivers to allow them to live outside Chicago as long as they work in a need area (which is 40% of the subjects areas). The one problem here is nobody in the CPS Talent office has been monitoring these waivers (or looking the other way) and many non-need area employees have been getting residency waivers. Some of the positions which employees are getting waivers when they're not supposed to are: Principal, Asst. Principal, Security Guard, Admin Asst, and Manager.
STEP/LANE INCREASES: This has been the BIG bone of contention between CPS and the CTU due to two factors. One, is many teachers have been getting $2500-$3500 more per year in pay due to having an advance degree and many teachers aren't using their advanced degrees in their current positions. ex.) PE teacher with a Bachelor's degree getting a Masters in Administration>
The second bone of contention is CPS teachers have been getting the 7% pension pickup by CPS, COLA, annual raises, and the step/lane increases all together. here's an explanation of this on this link, which shows teachers can easily get a 11% raises in one year:
Steps and lanes: Understanding how Chicago public school teachers get multiple pay raises each year
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/steps-and-lanes-understanding-how-chicago-public-school-teachers-get-multiple-pay-raises-each-year/
"Teaching used to be a decent gig 10 years ago - not anymore. I warn all my kids' friends: don't be a teacher. And I'd kill my kids if any of them went into education."
3/26/2016 07:24:00 PM
Teaching still is a good gig. The problem is Daley and your CTU let the pension problem get out of hand. And, when Daley lost the Olympics, things got so bad he couldn't borrow from Peter to Paul and he said adios! Teachers blame Rahm for everything, but, the only reason they blame him is because he said NO! to all their great perks. now, the gravy train is on its way out of Chicago, especially as public support isn't on the teacher's side this time around like in 2012.
SCHOOL DAY & YEAR: CPS teachers had the shortest school day until 2013. Grade school kids were going to school at 0830 and getting out at 1430 (6-hr days, now 7-hr days) and high school kids were in school at 0800 and getting out at 1430 (6.5 hr days, now 7.5 hr days). The school year for students was also increased from 177 days to 181. (Whether Karen Lewis wants to admit it or not, the teachers did get a 7% raise from the last strike. The 7% raise was spread out over three school years an both CPS and the CTU agreed this raise as for the longer school day and year. Though, teachers got their calculators out and figured out the raises were actually part of a paycut due to the longer school day and year.)
UNUSED SICK DAYS: Teachers lost the ability to bank (325) sick days for a one-time payout at retirement. The payout was paid at the daily rate of pay teachers were getting in their last year of work, not hat each day was earned at throughout their careers. Then, teachers used their payouts to enhance their pensions by as much as $6000/year (known as PEP, Pension Enhancement Program). Now, teachers can bank only (40) unused sick days for time towards their retirement years and not for money. But, the grandfathered banked sick days can still be cashed out at retirement, just not used to enhance their pensions.
Screw the CTU. No help from us you jag offs.
WOW amazing to see all the hate here. You do realize that after Rahm gets done gutting the Teachers union he will not sit back and be satisfied, and you or the firefighters will be next. So maybe you guys can suck up some of your hurt feelings because Karen called you bad names and stand with your fellow union members or you can sit back and pound your feet on the ground and wait till its your turn to get the full attention of the Mayor and his antics. Guess what there wont be any teachers in a union to support you.
"Guess what there wont be any teachers in a union to support you."
3/29/2016 12:32:00 PM
We don't need or want the CTU's support. The bandit 1-day strike on April 1st will be the beginning of the end for the CTU and its members. Let's hope April showers will make a mess of the day and for you teachers.
We don't need or want the CTU's support. The bandit 1-day strike on April 1st will be the beginning of the end for the CTU and its members. Let's hope April showers will make a mess of the day and for you teachers.
Bite you nose off to spite your face. Considering the Police in Chicago are respected even less than The Mayor (whereas Teachers rate higher), you might want to do a little bridge building, and if standing with other union members is too much for you, don't be surprised if when the axeman comes for you that NO-ONE supports you. I really don't think you have too much credit with the general public right now. I really doubt you will have much luck if you think you can stand alone in the fight against the Mayor
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
When they came for the CTU and its members,
nothing was done as they turned their backs on the CPD.
Enjoy your April 1st bandit strike as this will lead to the making teacher strikes illegal in IL.
CTU has conceded that a strike over contract negotiations would be illegal, but claims that the April 1 strike is legal because it is not about the contract, but an unfair labor practice.
CTU is incorrect.
First, Illinois law does not differentiate between the reasons for a strike, it simply provides a set of conditions that must always be met in order for a union to strike. CTU has not met all of those conditions, so under Illinois law, the strike is illegal.
Second, whether teachers should receive step-and-lane salary increases is a contract issue in the ongoing collective-bargaining negotiations between CPS and CTU.
When CTU brought an unfair labor practice claim before the Illinois Educational Labor Relations Board, or IELRB, challenging the freeze of step-and-lane raises, the board unanimously rejected CTU’s request for an injunction to require CPS to pay those salary increases. Board Chairwoman Andrea Waintroob explained: “For us to force the employer to pay lanes and steps, when the employer is bargaining to freeze lanes and steps, would really put a poison pill into the negotiating process.”
CTU President Karen Lewis dismisses the decision, calling the IELRB a “Rauner-stacked board.” However, Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner appointed just three of the five members of the IELRB, and the decision against CTU was unanimous. In addition, one of Rauner’s appointments, Lynne Sered, was originally appointed to the IELRB by former Gov. Rod Blagojevich and re-appointed by former Gov. Pat Quinn.
The fact that CTU has a process available to it to pursue unfair labor practice claims against CPS shows exactly why CTU’s justification for a strike makes no sense. Allowing CTU to strike at the same time it pursues a claim for an unfair labor practice would allow CTU to strike virtually any time it wanted, since union leadership could always come up with some action by CPS that it claims is an unfair labor practice, justified or not. And even though CTU’s attempt to get an injunction failed before the Board, CTU can still pursue an unfair labor practice charge through the administrative trial process like it is doing now.
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