Interesting Proposal
- Chicago would offer homeowners a $200 rebate to purchase exterior cameras as long as they also link the cameras to the city’s vast video surveillance network. The innovative plan is being championed by a rookie alderman to combat the never-ending cycle of gang violence.
Instead of spending $27,000 of his $1.32 million annual allotment of aldermanic menu money for just one crime-fighting street camera, rookie Ald. Ray Lopez (15th) wants to stretch those funds by offering the rebate as an incentive to homeowners.
Inviting the government into your surveillance system?
Not high on our list of priorities.
Being a good citizen and letting the cops know if your cameras happen to catch someone or something that might help solve a criminal matter?
Better option and it appeals to a sense of civic duty, especially in crime-ridden neighborhoods.
In the article though, there is an amusing admission by the aldercreature:
Not high on our list of priorities.
Being a good citizen and letting the cops know if your cameras happen to catch someone or something that might help solve a criminal matter?
Better option and it appeals to a sense of civic duty, especially in crime-ridden neighborhoods.
In the article though, there is an amusing admission by the aldercreature:
- Lopez acknowledged Thursday that what Chicago really needs is more police officers to stop the surge in homicides and shootings that will only get worse during the warm summer months.
We're shorthanded? Weather affects crime? Wow, this guy has got it on the ball!
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
44 Comments:
You have to be kidding me...
Do we really want the city to have control,or access to cameras on our neighbors houses??
Im sure it will only be used to catch crimi als, and would Never be used to jam us up...
Why would I ever have anything to do with the city? Hook up to their system? Who's hooking it up? What relative of what corrupt asshole will be profiting from that?
Wow - a Chicago alderman admitting to CPD staffing shortages and criminal activity being weather related? Nunc dimmitus!
Will he make the next earth-shattering revelation and point out that the morale of the rank and file is directly tied to the level of support from the admin and management crowd?
Nah . . .
Alderman Lopez better get with the program or he will be primaried by the machine.
They should also hook up their new big screen TVs to the Chicago system. Then little pip squeak Rahm can watch over them just like his big brother in 1984. Telescreens for everyone!
Mayor Rahm would say that their are enough cops, they just need to work more efficiently.
Why cameras are ineffective, let me count the ways:
1) Who is monitoring ALL the cameras ALL the time? No one.
2) How many cameras are NOT functional (out-of-service)? For ANY reason.
3) Cameras cannot stop a crime in progress.
4) Cameras - UNLESS THEY ARE GOOD - do NOT give sufficient evidence to ID a person (or persons).
5) Cameras need to be properly maintained. Are yours? (General question to ALL camera owners - city, businesses, residential)
6) Cameras provide a FALSE sense of security - just like "No Gun" signs.
Here is a better proposition. Get rid of the Alderman and 29 other rubber-stamp colleagues, their ward funds, their staffs, and hire more REAL policemen.
"Lopez acknowledged Thursday that what Chicago really needs is more police officers to stop the surge in homicides and shootings . . . "
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Yup..
NEW police officers who can be brainwashed at the academy.
The rest of us fetal coppers with more than 15 years are D O N E.
Shove your lousy 200 dollars. I'm not letting the city keep an eye on me at home. You already watch me at work.
He admitted publicly what many of the Aldermen will admit in smaller groups. Isn't he a relatively new Alderman?
yes, i would like a better angle of all the killings going on.
make sure its HD quality cameras too.
I say you put up the camera, hook into the system, and then put up a sign that says "we need more cops", "city council blows", or "Rahm sucks" or a picture of him in some compromised, photoshopped position. Permanently place in front of camera for all to see.
Knucklehead.
We need Harold Finch from "Person of Interest".
Is anyone naive and or dumb enough to give up their privacy, for a $200 tax break? Well, then again, we elected this Putz twice as Mayor, so my question is moot. Baby"G"
I have cameras on my house in Chicago. They have helped me a few times now. Don't buy cheap cameras they don't work good at night. Go to Shoppingcctv.com. good price for good stuff. Screw the city. I have called 311 for quality of life issues, loud parties late at night. No police ever came. Retired guy.
Channel 5 news this morning. A Rash of muggings in the Lakeview area.
they interview several people. One woman said : We are not holding our police and aldermen accountable. This is something that has been out there for years in this area.
its all your fault guys....why cant you guys be everywhere at all times, and take money out of your personal savings accounts to hire more officers? Shame!!
::rolls eyes and spits::
Sorry OT: Anybody know the truth about no Insurance for the first 30 days of retirement with this contract if you took the 55 and out?? Esplain please? TX
I'm worth more than $200 bucks! 2M then we can talk. It's for the children.
I got a better solution: get rid of 40 alder-fucken-creatures, their slash funds, pensions, hire more cops.
Oh-oh, Alder-Creature Lopez is gonna catch hell for this idea -- from his fellow Alder-creatures.
Lopez is actually trying to do something that would help Chicago -- actually doing work that one would, should, expect from your elected officials -- instead of just trying to line his pocket as is the SOP in the Den Of Thieves also known as, The Chicago City Council. His 'coworkers' sure as heck won't appreciate being upstaged by this newbie Alderman -- 'Just who the Hell does he think he is, Harrumph!
Not to mention that Tiny Dancer can't be overlooked in this plan. How can The Nine Digit Midget let this proceed without him being able to hand out no-bid contracts to his cronies for cameras or interfacing with the city's system.
Oh well, at least one elected official wants to try do something about the out of control Gang Violence. That's a start.
Dr evil says " can we put frickin lasers on the cameras!"
I don't give a fuck if they hired 10,000 20,000 30,000 more policeman with the way things are today I still ain't doing no police work
So fuck the people who run this city !!! Yea that means you MR alderman (all of you ) and you to Mr Mayor oh and you to Mr superintendent
Do you really believe that putting more coppers on the street really gonna change anything ? !!??! Your all fucking stupid if you do
I'll tell you what , put as many policeman as you want out there lets see what excuse your gonna come up with when that doesn't work
Your immediate problem is our pension your next problem is allowing police officers to do there jobs the way it's supposed to be done not the way you think it needs to be done to make your political career stronger then if you really love the city and care for the citizens the way you all stand up there and try to convince everybody of then while you're up there lying to the people let them know that they will be held responsible for their actions if they challenge the police then we will escalate our response if you lie about the police on a complaint then you will be held responsible for that action. That won't ever happen so I guess I'll keep collecting a check for doing nothing that's fine by me
I make a lot of money to do nothing and when they take that away then I'll leave but I only have a few more years to go and I'll be leaving anyway so at some level I have to thank the powers for giving a good excuse for not do shit I never liked the so called dogs but I have to say
It's not so bad
I know where this is going....
1.) They will require people in tax paying, "low crime" areas to purchase the cameras (from an approved vendor) for their homes.
2.) They will then subsidize or outright give cams to Englehoodians, Austinites, etc....
Cameras everywhere you see how well that works for example on the CTA! Thugs and felons are not scared of cameras, they are nice but it is always "after the fact" when someone is killed or shot,or harmed in chiraq! Police hiring is Job #1, Job #2 is stop the pandering to the black lies matter crew,the media, the revs when they do their illegal assembly nonsense lock them up, county jail has more "room at the inn" than any hotel in the world! Get the buses fill up the jail, use the law mayor, but on the bottom of all complaints you sign them, or whosoever ward it is in signs the complaints get out of the shadows cowards!
North Avenue Beach will be closed do to weather conditions .
Temperature above 90 degrees , transparency .
OT
Save our Pension
1. Immediately hire 3,500 new Police Officers
2. Pension based on last rank prompted to based on Test Scores Only .
3.raise mandatory retirement age to 65 , no cola until you reach age 65
4.raise minimum retirement age to 58 , allow officers to leave at age 55 , but cannot collect until age 58 .
5.increase contribution to 10% , remember city has to contribute 2 1/2 times more than we do .
6.being. 60 I will work until 65 , work all the VRI allowed , enjoy my summer , Christmas furlos.
Just got this in my email, this is more interesting what does rahm mean he wanted to keep this deal quiet?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxwxIjST-HPcelRWMVFhYVBGUFE/view
Your finding money to build more schools but yet in the article it clearly states you don't want Springfield to know as your broke! Transparency mayor? I think not! Now about that pesky police pension fund that will be broke in what 6 years where is that money at? Deceptive maybe? This should be issue #1 not residency not more pay think you are working at the end all the money gone! Probably the school building the builders donate to elected? Sorry for accusations surely this would never happen with our honestly truthful mayor I apologize! 🤔
CTA is safe ???
Why does rahm have body guards on the CTA train with him ?
Rahm does not trust the cta cameras for his safety , just yours .
2000 police officers cut from budget after rahm elected in 2011 ,
now another 869 police officers short because hiring has not kept up with retirements . amazing we still have 50 alderrats , with our 311 system , no need for more than 12 alderrats
Remember tovarisch, you earn extra rations if you report a family member.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Is anyone naive and or dumb enough to give up their privacy, for a $200 tax break? Well, then again, we elected this Putz twice as Mayor, so my question is moot. Baby"G"
5/22/2016 09:13:00 AM
EVERYONE who uses facebook under their real name gives up their privacy for FREE. Of course they'll do it for $200.
OT
Save our Pension
1. Immediately hire 3,500 new Police Officers
2. Pension based on last rank prompted to based on Test Scores Only .
3.raise mandatory retirement age to 65 , no cola until you reach age 65
4.raise minimum retirement age to 58 , allow officers to leave at age 55 , but cannot collect until age 58 .
5.increase contribution to 10% , remember city has to contribute 2 1/2 times more than we do .
6.being. 60 I will work until 65 , work all the VRI allowed , enjoy my summer , Christmas furlos.
5/22/2016 03:17:00 PM
Agree with 1,2, maybe 5 - only with the contingency that the city ACTUALLY contributes, not defer payments. The rest, no fucking way! Many of us have given more than the best years of our lives serving this ungrateful shit pool. Being able to leave at 50 yrs of age is a necessity for those of us who have been on since early to mid 20s. No more of this raise the age limit for this or that bullshit. That's exactly what these fucking crooked tyrannical thieving politicians want - for you to die behind the wheel of a beat car! Life expectancy for the average officer after he retires is 5 fucking years, mostly due to the insane stress level of this job. This is young man's work, sorry but no country for old men here. Following your suggestion, the city better make those squad cars handicap accessible, because you'll have old crows wheeling themselves and using walkers getting to those domestics and mentals. If you want to stay in this 3 ring shit show till you drop, that's your business, and good luck. The rest of us have plans and a life beyond this irreparable town, and we will take what we rightfully earned on our way out.
Yeah, I bought the cameras... linked em up an everything all good boss... Can I has my check?
What you mean you can't see the video? I don't know. Maybe you better send an IT guy over to figure it out.
Can I has my check now?
Privacy and 4th Amendment implications aside - this "proposal" is fraught with many problems and will be rife with fraud in 5 seconds after it's passed.
Sure, More Government spying by the Communistocrats. Isn't IRS, NSA, FBI, & CIA enough yet? What's next?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT
Save our Pension
1. Immediately hire 3,500 new Police Officers
2. Pension based on last rank prompted to based on Test Scores Only .
3.raise mandatory retirement age to 65 , no cola until you reach age 65
4.raise minimum retirement age to 58 , allow officers to leave at age 55 , but cannot collect until age 58 .
5.increase contribution to 10% , remember city has to contribute 2 1/2 times more than we do .
6.being. 60 I will work until 65 , work all the VRI allowed , enjoy my summer , Christmas furlos.
5/22/2016 03:17:00 PM
Agree with 1,2, maybe 5 - only with the contingency that the city ACTUALLY contributes, not defer payments. The rest, no fucking way! Many of us have given more than the best years of our lives serving this ungrateful shit pool. Being able to leave at 50 yrs of age is a necessity for those of us who have been on since early to mid 20s. No more of this raise the age limit for this or that bullshit. That's exactly what these fucking crooked tyrannical thieving politicians want - for you to die behind the wheel of a beat car! Life expectancy for the average officer after he retires is 5 fucking years, mostly due to the insane stress level of this job. This is young man's work, sorry but no country for old men here. Following your suggestion, the city better make those squad cars handicap accessible, because you'll have old crows wheeling themselves and using walkers getting to those domestics and mentals. If you want to stay in this 3 ring shit show till you drop, that's your business, and good luck. The rest of us have plans and a life beyond this irreparable town, and we will take what we rightfully earned on our way out.
5/22/2016 08:06:00 PM
fire ended the "gold braid pension" this prevents the pension hogs that are "connected from taking "our money!" somewhat! Why is the pension 550 million not in the police pension fund yet? Real estate taxes raised done now where is the money?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
CTA is safe ???
Why does rahm have body guards on the CTA train with him ?
Rahm does not trust the cta cameras for his safety , just yours .
5/22/2016 05:21:00 PM
Has he really been ON a train since his photo-ops in the predator overcoat?
OT
Save our Pension
1. Immediately hire 3,500 new Police Officers
2. Pension based on last rank prompted to based on Test Scores Only .
3.raise mandatory retirement age to 65 , no cola until you reach age 65
4.raise minimum retirement age to 58 , allow officers to leave at age 55 , but cannot collect until age 58 .
5.increase contribution to 10% , remember city has to contribute 2 1/2 times more than we do .
6.being. 60 I will work until 65 , work all the VRI allowed , enjoy my summer , Christmas furlos.
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from the outside looking in I can tell you the city has no money to pay for 3500 new cops. ain't going to happen no matter what. That would add the better part of a half a billion dollars a year to the city budget. that money just does not exist.
the rest of it is just fiddling with the numbers and some of it has been ruled to be against the state constitution already.
take what you can get while you can because at some point the gravy train will derail. I don't have a clue what form that derailment will take. could be like Detroit where some city workers got a major trim while cops and firemen pretty much came out whole. Or it could just collapse when the police pension fund runs out of money if nothing is done to fix the problem.
The real issue has never been funding but that public employee pension plans of all kinds in this state are just not supportable at the current levels of both benefits and sheer number of employees covered. At some point that has to be addressed somehow.
NAC
CTA is safe???
Anonymous @5/22/2016 05:21:00 PM
Yes, comrade, CTA IS SAFE . . .
As safe as Thalidomide, Asbestos, Depleted Uranium, Crown Victoria fuel tank assemblies, unprotected sex with a Kardashian sister . . .
Proposal:
Examscam demotions
Fund the pension
Exempts gone
End gold braid now find out how fire did it
Fair promotions test answers immediately via scantron
Mayor and 50 resign
Toni resign
Dart Resign
Hire 4,000 more police minimum
Stop bastardizing police
Why does Cool Mite even have bodyguards? Pathetic little stringbean from the suburbs with a big mouth and the physique of an high school AV geek. Wonder what workout routine he follows? Richard Simmons?
"EVERYONE who uses facebook under their real name gives up their privacy for FREE."
5/22/2016 07:44:00 PM
But zuckerberg just spent $30 mil buying the 4 houses on either side of his Palo Alto place -- going to tear them down so no one can look in HIS bedroom windows...
"...unprotected sex with a Kardashian sister..."
5/23/2016 02:01:00 PM
>Shudder<
Funny you should mention the "Crown Victoria fuel tank assemblies," that seems to be the ludicrous new size and style for the, uh, derriere here...gives me the urge to say "Cover yourself" more than anything else. Trying to read something good in the Daily Mail and I want to stick Post-It notes strategically on the screen so I don't have to keep seeing that.
6.being. 60 I will work until 65 , work all the VRI allowed ,
enjoy my summer , Christmas furlos
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That's cuz u have no life. Go ahead and work until 65. What r u going to do with all the money u made when you're dead 5-10 years later?
Won't even get to have a decent retirement, but thanks for paying into the pension.
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