How to Pay for New Hires?
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel plans to reduce police overtime by $40 million next year as he begins to deliver on his formidable promise to hire 970 additional police officers without raising sales, property or gasoline taxes.
The decision to apparently wean the Chicago Police Department away from its heavy dependence on overtime emerged during a meeting with the Chicago Sun-Times editorial board on the mayor’s $8.2 billion budget for 2017.
The police department spent a record $116.1 million on overtime in 2015 — up 17.2 percent from the previous year — to mask a manpower shortage that has mushroomed under Emanuel with police retirements outpacing hiring by 975 officers.
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Under questioning, Budget Director Alex Holt acknowledged that the budget Emanuel presented to the City Council on Tuesday would reduce police overtime to about $76 million. The $40 million cut would be precisely enough to cover salaries and benefits for the additional officers the city expects to hire in the first year of its two-year police hiring surge.
Amazing - cutting exactly $40 million will pay for exactly the numbers Rahm wants hired....to the penny! And once again, those manpower numbers are awfully fuzzy:
- Chicago aldermen remain skeptical about the mayor’s ability to deliver on his promise to fill 471 vacancies, keep pace with rising retirements, and still hire enough police officers in 2017 to add 250 patrol officers, 37 sergeants, 50 lieutenants, 92 field-training officers and 100 detectives to raise an abysmal clearance rate for homicides and shootings. They noted that Emanuel campaigned for a first term on a similar promise, only to break it.
The aldercreatures are right to be wary, since those 37 sergeants, 92 FTO's and 100 Detectives come from .... the ranks of patrol officers, meaning those 250 new hires are a net gain of 21 officers to the manpower numbers.
Those 50 lieutenants come from the sergeant rank, so sergeants are going to be a net loss of 23.
And that doesn't seem to take into consideration the 700-plus officers (and 50-to-75 sergeants) who have already put in for retirement next year.
Hint to the media - call around. Officers intending to retire in 2017 had to declare that intention by 01 October of this year. The bulk of those retiring will be gone by 30 June when the current Contract expires. You think Rahm can replace 700 officers by next summer when the killing season starts?
Those 50 lieutenants come from the sergeant rank, so sergeants are going to be a net loss of 23.
And that doesn't seem to take into consideration the 700-plus officers (and 50-to-75 sergeants) who have already put in for retirement next year.
Hint to the media - call around. Officers intending to retire in 2017 had to declare that intention by 01 October of this year. The bulk of those retiring will be gone by 30 June when the current Contract expires. You think Rahm can replace 700 officers by next summer when the killing season starts?
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
124 Comments:
Have you guys actually tried to verify how many are signed up for the 55 and out???? It's not 1000 like everyone is saying, it's not 700 and it's not 500. The total number of p.os signed up by October first deadline to retire with the 55 and out is 182... yeah, not 1000. Why not try to verify it yourselves before all the speculation?
This is a load of BS The city will never catch up. The number of cops retiring is astonishing. It's all there to see if the media wants to. It will blow your mind when you see the numbers for 2016 and 2017. One thing we don't need is more supervisors. There are so many that sometimes they have no job duties for the shift. We need more street cops.
Why add more lieutenants than sergeants?
How many lts are retiring this year and next year?
From the budget proposal " CPD will continue the civilianization process in 2017 with Sergeants who are acting in administrative functions. Those Sergeants will be returned to law enforcement roles." Uh-ohhhh
Hint to scc.....the media is boiled down to six owners and will deliver as promised to advance the agenda that profits the . 01%
Pathetic we can't even get a thousand Officers to donate a dollar a week to each of the fired Officers the blue wall has fallen.
I'm likely to be one of those new hires... and golly you serial posters are making my decision to join quite inspirational. Keep up those informative feedback posts, I sure feel like I'm learning a lot about how to be miserable as phuck in doing this job. That was sarcasm in case one or a few take it as something else. I know I know, learn how to write paper and keep myself occupied for 8 plus lunch and 2-15's. Do they teach fetal in the academy?
Got elected on a plan to put 1000 cops on the street, mind you not hiring one cop... Now as election is gonna be near--- he will prolly get elected on his plan to hire 970... The only reason I am foreshadowing this, is cause 4 years ago he would had been finished given the McDonald and other bullshit going on during his watch as mayor-- but today, you can not guess the stupid of the voter or how stupid the May get 4 years down the road. This guys would not had been elected mayor back in the day.
If the department is budgeted for let's say 10,500 Officers and 500 retire. Doesn't that remove 500 and those budgeted positions are now open. (the money already being budgeted for those positions) So what's the BS about where is the money going to come from, it's already budgeted.
The city is going to bank off the academy land and govt housing units across street. I hope the new facility is a training facility not a classroom building. New facility will be in 002 dist
You must be soft in the head to take the FTO spot ! At what pay rate is D2 , it's about a dollar extra a hour and the 45 min is per day if you have a PPO and you will have more than one .
So were is the benefit ?
Pay NO
Choice of district. NO
CAREER PATH. No and a sarcastic back slap from the academy
But what's the benefit ?
A partner who is trained in the latest de-escalation technecs and has legal training in testifying against his/her FTO and other blue shirts !
Signed
Been there done that , now kiss my arse
Little Eddie W ain't letting no one take away his OT. he too important to be controlled by rules
I agree we need more Police hired on in the department but many people working many different jobs would kill to make half the overtime we are afforded. It's a good thing we have overtime opportunities and once they're gone many are gonna wish they weren't.
This is so stupid that if makes my head hurt.
I still can't believe that NOBODY questions his bullshit numbers.
It's so fucking simple, a 4th grade math student (even CPS), could figure it out.
Fuck you, pay me.
I thought it was 112 sergeants?
Murder Rham Emanuel blood is all over his hands-Bicycle versus vehicle deaths are even up due to his mayoral campagn promise-more bike lanes and more cops? has led nowhere but more deaths!
Not trying to be s Smart Ass; but isn't this contrary to the concept of "More with Less"? Also, is this a final admission, that the Kansas Study, is absolute Bullshit? Remember the Kansas Study back in the 70's, which every Boss since has used, which stated greater police presence did not necessarily mean crime reduction? Add to all this the simple reality that more police May Not Be the Answer, if the additional police lack the power to deploy Proactive Policing strategies. So like everything else that comes out of Rahm's warped little mind, this production of more police, which in reality will only be an increased effort to account for a higher attrition, may in fact not be the answer to reducing crime. PERHAPS WE NEED TO INSTITUTE PROGRAMS IN THE SCHOOLS THAT SHOW KIDS THEY HAVE A "RESPONSIBILITY" TO CONFORM TO CERTAIN BASIC STANDARDS IN A CIVILIZED SOCIETY! Or, is that too "Racist"? Too White? Stay Fetal, Do Nothing More than Answer Your Call, and Protect Each Other! Baby"G"
The current Democratic Administration is spending 115 Billion dollars on illegal aliens per year. And these monies are unlimited.
Yet no funds are available for 300,000 homeless veterans.
In Chicago, the current Democratic Mayor can find Millions for “Social Programs” but is stripping Police Retirees of Health benefits after the City promised this to retirees.
The press will buy his nonsense.
I guess the homicide numbers will be higher next year. Gotta love the shuffle game
you make very good points---and then throw in gossip and act like its fact. 700 retirees---where did you get that number from.....my guess would be--it is nothing you have actually seen.
It is all smoke and mirrors once again. He promises one thing and it wont even come close to fruition. By next summer the department will be smaller in numbers than it has ever been. The mayor just lies about everything period.
Keep in mind innocent taxpaying citizens of Gotham without adequate Police protection and nary a superhero the next stray bullet just might have your name on it.....
Who's to say that the twerp is going to hire from within the patrol ranks for the positions of Detective, Sergeant, etc. Hell he may just appoint civilians to those vacancies like he did with granny Clampett. Now wouldn't that be a hoot Jethro?
When your going after coppers for nonsense like this,getting involved on his motorcade detail because the liberals and scum and lawbreakers hate Trump no wonder policing is dead:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/12/san-antonio-police-officers-face-discipline-for-wearing-make-america-great-again-caps.html
Trump has my vote and every sensible copper because he always talks law and order and pro-police not going to let some video with comments when he was a tv star ruin this country as that creepy lying anti-American Hillary tries to distract from all her lies. Living in mount greenwood some of my police neighbors actually have Hillary signs really moronic guess you support a liar that honors thugs moms brings them up on stage and adores them while Trump brings great people like sheriff David Clarke on stage to tell the truth about the thugs and supports policing if your for Hillary seek mental health treatment asap!
The mayor is known for budgetary genius. That is why Chicago is not in Detroits shoes.
OT -- but this is blowing up fast. Critical story --
Russia orders all officials to fly home any relatives living abroad, as tensions mount over the prospect of a global war
* Russian officials have been 'told to bring relatives home to the Motherland'
* Failure to act will put promotion chances at risk, according to local reports
* Comes amid rapidly deteriorating relations between Russia and the West
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3833941/Russia-orders-officials-fly-home-relatives-living-abroad-tensions-mount-prospect-global-war.html
"Retired Russian Lt. Gen. Evgeny Buzhinsky told the BBC: 'Of course there is a reaction. As far as Russia sees it, as Putin sees it, it is full-scale confrontation on all fronts. If you want a confrontation, you'll get one.
"'But it won't be a confrontation that doesn't harm the interests of the United States. You want a confrontation, you'll get one everywhere.'"
Short version -- huge transfer of Russian materiel and troops into Syria. Ships loaded as far down in the water as they can get, huge increase in air transports coming in. Russia is going to establish a permanent naval base in Syria and put in missile systems that will make the region a no-fly zone for everybody but them.
Syria's chinless Assad will get one in the back of the head the second he's no longer useful. This is not about him. This is to cover and protect a huge gas pipeline deal between Turkey and the Russian "oligarchs," the ones who give $100 million yachts to their 18-year-old daughters -- Putin has been arranging it with Turkey's Erdogan.
Obama? He's busy with plans to put colonies on Mars. Really.
You know when they do the budget they use senior officer pay scale. So they will hire two new officers at one senior officer's pay!! The other thing is that aprx 1100 officers will be retiring by June of next year, and there is no way in hell to start to hire PPO"s now and have them ready to hit the streets by June, unless they are going to cut the academy time way short. You see the media eats the bullshit the city tells them also where is our great union in this whole thing?? We have not heard the union say boo in any of this new Use of Force or this new hire bullshit!!
Nothing will change until the problem changes itself.
--No Cop Here
I know a lot of big bosses read this blog. So take a look at my proposal. Keep VRI but increase the activity to 25 parkers and 25 movers per month. If you do that, the revenue generated by the 25 parkers and 25 movers will more than enough pay for the VRI overtime of three days per month. If the officer wants to work more overtime then the activity levels have to be increased. This is a win-win proposal that benefits the officers so they can get time and a half pay working in the city's most dangerous neighborhoods and it is a win for the city because the money does not come from the budget, but it will come from the tickets the officer wrote.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm likely to be one of those new hires... and golly you serial posters are making my decision to join quite inspirational. Keep up those informative feedback posts, I sure feel like I'm learning a lot about how to be miserable as phuck in doing this job. That was sarcasm in case one or a few take it as something else. I know I know, learn how to write paper and keep myself occupied for 8 plus lunch and 2-15's. Do they teach fetal in the academy?
10/12/2016 01:42:00 AM
No, the academy will try to brainwash you. They will brainwash you by telling you: as long as you follow the directives, rules, general orders, and the law etc. of this department you will be covered. That is an utter and complete lie. Do not fall for it. Those instructors at the academy have a sweet spot so they have to tow the company line. They are company men and women. Do not become like some of your young colleagues that think this is a game by getting into bullshit foot chases or vehicle pursuits. You have common sense kid, use it. Chase after an ax murderer or a serial killer, but not some goof who was gambling or pissing. Look, I was young too at one time and all of that stuff was fun. The adrenaline and excitement and the end result was all fun. But today, our environment has changed. I am glad you "get it" young buck. Damn, even before entering the police academy you get it kid. Good for you.
Now what can you do young man to keep your job secure? Learn how to write good reports. Answer your jobs and don't be lazy. A job can only result in three end results: an arrest, a police report or it is non criminal and it is a 19 Paul. If a police report is warranted then give it to them. It only takes a few minutes so do it. You will be surprised how many lazy coppers won't even do that. Most especially, police reports need to be generated for domestics and offenses involving children. If a domestic needs to be an arrest then make the arrest. If you have to make a dui arrest do it. Most coppers do not know how to do dui's. Do your job completely by the book. In the academy the most important classes are for use of force, arrest, search and seizure. Save all of the handouts for those classes. Learn that information inside and out and right side and up.
Oh, one more thing young man and never, ever, ever, ever forget this: back up your fellow officers. They are your fellow brothers and sisters. They will look after you and you need to look after them. Even if someone goes down on a traffic stop or a street stop or a simple job, swing by and make sure they are ok.
At some point, he will propose a city income tax. Just 1% or less to start, but the residency requirements will never go away. The city employees are nothing but sacrificial animals who can be bled for ever-increasing amounts to support the "community".
it is all smoke and mirrors
short 500 police officers right now
many more will retire before nov 15
2016 city budget shows 13,793 full time police positions.....as we all know we are not even close to that number in reality, so where did the money go for all those already budgeted non existing positions.
why are any sworn police officers assigned to administrative assignments
CAPS , Review , Records ,Identification , Evidence & Recovered Property , Tactical ,Commander Secretary and many more .
rahm,why don't you offer us the same buyout as the teachers?you can give the current cops healthcare,and make changes for all the new hires! you will save a bundle and train the new guys to your specs!ITS A WIN WIN!
It also appears that Rahm has pulled a "Daley" and given the CTU much of what they wanted to avoid the embarrassment of another strike. The details are scarce on what the cost is, but cost be damned, he wants to be re-elected
So he's going to cut $40 million in OT from next years budget to pay for new officers. Did we forget that it takes 6 months to train these officers? And there will be no VRI no OT. Seriously they really just don't care. Everyone needs to do what's best for themselves. I would also like to know the real number retiring by June 2017. Anyone from FOP want to chime in?
Have you guys actually tried to verify how many are signed up for the 55 and out???? It's not 1000 like everyone is saying, it's not 700 and it's not 500. The total number of p.os signed up by October first deadline to retire with the 55 and out is 182... yeah, not 1000. Why not try to verify it yourselves before all the speculation?
10/12/2016 12:30:00 AM
Just heard from FOP and the 55 and out people were around 300. This # only includes those around 55 and not older people like the 60 yrs Olds etc.
Adding the groups together I would say it's around 400 total retirees come 01 June 17.
Off topic. At Midway flying to San Diego. SuperNintendo and LT Girlfriend pre-board with people in wheelchairs. Why? Is this an ethics violation? Abusing each of their positions?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why add more lieutenants than sergeants?
How many lts are retiring this year and next year?
10/12/2016 12:54:00 AM
One reason is the DOJ wants more supervision of the pos. They believe more supervisors mean more supervision. In the real world that might be true, the CPD not so sure
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Got elected on a plan to put 1000 cops on the street, mind you not hiring one cop... Now as election is gonna be near--- he will prolly get elected on his plan to hire 970... The only reason I am foreshadowing this, is cause 4 years ago he would had been finished given the McDonald and other bullshit going on during his watch as mayor-- but today, you can not guess the stupid of the voter or how stupid the May get 4 years down the road. This guys would not had been elected mayor back in the day.
Of course they wouldn't have been elected mayor back in the day. You were too busy electing Daley who put us in this mess and pension mess
Anybody know how many detective vacancies there are without the new 100 to be promoted?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is a load of BS The city will never catch up. The number of cops retiring is astonishing. It's all there to see if the media wants to. It will blow your mind when you see the numbers for 2016 and 2017. One thing we don't need is more supervisors. There are so many that sometimes they have no job duties for the shift. We need more street cops.
I guess if 182 is astonishing. You sound like the poster that was all worried about last weekend with all the activities in Chicago, how can the police handle it. Anarchy will rule or all the comments during during NATO and G8 in 2012. 3000 officers will be injured and on IOD, we need escape routes out of the city our helmets and masks don't fight right and many officers will get hepatitis
The voice of doom I love it
Why would anyone ever doubt Rahm? Remember he's got Rahmenomics on his side.
Have you guys actually tried to verify how many are signed up for the 55 and out???? It's not 1000 like everyone is saying, it's not 700 and it's not 500. The total number of p.os signed up by October first deadline to retire with the 55 and out is 182... yeah, not 1000. Why not try to verify it yourselves before all the speculation?
To do that would actually require some work. People like to continually post and repeat things they hear in roll call without verifying the info. It is actually pretty said and makes us look like fools.
there is only so much money that the city can steal from the taxpayers before there is a revolt from the taxpayers.
in the long run the city is going to have to reduce its spending on operational things to pay for pensions. that will be when the SHTF.
The Dept is approximately 12000 strong (all ranks). Approx 500 - 600 will retire this year. True, ask your pension rep.
No new net investment for Police hiring.
Just shave a little off the O/T and use that
money to hire....
Typical Shitty-Assed Rahm...
Robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Same old Democrat side show trick. Show up with all the statistics, charts and graphs.
They said we were up to manpower needs last year...what happened?
(It's not manpower...its police being fetal they said)
We won't raise taxes or fees for this or that...what happened?
Water fees, garbage pick up fee, phone and cable tax, parking (not even our entity), real estate taxes...all raised.
Rahm is still borrowing on top of the flagrant spending.
More parades, programs, ghetto restorations.
Who pays...39th, 41st and 45th Ward for starters.
Screw the OT, spend that time with your families.
Gee, lets see. At one time we had about 13,500 officers and a ton of civilians.
Now er are way down and I'm still paying for the 13 thousand in my property taxes. Where did that money go.
With the vast reduction in manpower and costs, where did all that money go?
I asked my alderman. Dead silence.
After coming to Chicago in 2007 from Afghanistan as my daughter was born I have been reading SCC as it seems as if it is the only place to get "real" news of the continuing dog and pony show.
My question is this, have any monies been paid into the pension fund for retiring LEO's? I have yet to see any evidence of it. If someone could chime in I would be grateful as our taxes went from 4.5k to 11k with the swipe of a pen.
I hope that all of you who protect and serve, putting your lives on the line get the promised retirement you need after having put in the blood, sweat and tears that go with being a police officer.
G_d bless CPD. Thank you for keeping us safe.
Richard
People talk about how Rahm would be done if he put out the McDonald video, then we would have Chuey the BLM supporter, no where to turn.
Hint to the media - call around. Officers intending to retire in 2017 had to declare that intention by 01 October of this year. The bulk of those retiring will be gone by 30 June when the current Contract expires. You think Rahm can replace 700 officers by next summer when the killing season starts?
You only had to declare that intention IF you wanted the 55 and out insurance, otherwise you can tell them the day before that you're retiring, I know someone who is leaving next year but doesn't need the insurance! 10 months!!!!!
"Police retirements outpacing hiring by 975 officers." - I read this as, down another thousand officers...
"Chicago aldermen remain skeptical about the mayor’s ability to deliver on his promise to fill 471 vacancies" - I read this as, almost another 500 personnel short.
"those retiring will be gone by 30 June when the current Contract expires. You think Rahm can replace 700 officers" - I read this as, we will be down almost another thousand officers...
Ladies and Gentlemen...The leadership of our fair city strains credulity, don't they?
Next year is going to be a bumpy ride...Even IF they hire a thousand new officers, they will have little or no experience by next summer. And at our current staffing levels they will number in at well over 10 percent of our workforce. To hire 100 that's 10 classes of 100 each. One new class per month. that 10 months to hire them. 5 months in the academy. That's 15 months for 1000 new officers. If 700 retire before the contract expires. That's a net gain of 300...Add in the PO's fired for various reason and the PO's sidelined for doing their job. Injuries, medical, and I know there are some who are just going to quit this stupid job.
Well you can see we are right back at being severely understaffed again...The city is circling the drain. The sucking sound is already starting. And we are told that crime is down..."Run Away!!!"
White Shirts cannot retire in 2017 until May First to get the now 2% insurance at age 55.
Anonymous said...
I agree we need more Police hired on in the department but many people working many different jobs would kill to make half the overtime we are afforded. It's a good thing we have overtime opportunities and once they're gone many are gonna wish they weren't.
10/12/2016 04:31:00 AM
More bodies means more money going into your pension plan. More bodies mean the pension plan becomes better funded.
It's MUCH better in the long run to have your pension for twenty-five years after you retire than some overtime money now. You want extra cash? Get a part-timer.
it a joke. dept is falling apart.
The total number of p.os signed up by October first deadline to retire with the 55 and out is 182... yeah, not 1000.
I, my friend, am one of them. The insurance made it a no brainer for me.
Everyday, I see guys who look like they barely stand up anymore, reporting to 011 to work the downtown VRI detail.
I don't know the next man's financial situation. Still, I can't imagine working my off day, at this stage of my career. Then, again, I aint got 4 kids, an ex-wife, and a current wife. Aint got a house I used to live in, but don't anymore, but am still paying for. In addition to the house I currently live in, and am paying for.
No sympathy here boys. Choices...
Let's see here cut police overtime, cut police retirees health care, let's raise police pension contributions. In the meantime let's give the teachers whatever they want or close to it. I don't care what people say about Karen Lewis she is a UNION president. No other union in Chicago has a president with a set of balls larger then hers.
.The Attorney General demanded $25000 in restitution and $75000 in punitive damages.$100,000 in all. The case was politically motivated, and when after a two year prosecution the judge had seen enough bullshit evidence and corrupted depositions, the Zito family attorney advised their client Lisa to take the settlement the judge suggested, that being $2000 due to a missing invoice( Terry Serpico destroyed) which she couldn't account for. The court wanted no trial as the Attorney General spent tens of thousands going after Zito and enough was enough. Judge approved no admission of wrong doing and asked Zito however she wanted to pay the money was fine with him no matter the length of time as he smelled Lisa Madigan doing a favor for Ron Serpico.
Am I the only one that heard about Jagoff Rahm finding $100 million to fund some mentoring program for at risk ghetto youth?
I wonder if is FLOP keeping a tally of all these hundreds of millions of dollars that this city keeps pissing away on unnecessary shit while our pension remains severely underfunded? Will they use this as ammunition in the next round of contract negotiations?
Retirees losing their "guaranteed" medical benefits. Teachers able to strike to make Tiny Dancer give it up. And a 100 million more for a segment of society that is past the point of saving as their "culture" precludes them from participation in a polite, normal, educated society.
And here we are, getting it broke off in our collective ass once again. Anyone doing a lick of anything proactive in the ghettos or generating any sort of revenue for this cocksucker is pathetic. Wake up, Sheeple.
Bicycle vs vehicle deaths are up because bicyclist think they have some kind of protective force field when they are in those bike lanes.
Just read this from another site, GOPUSA, which used the Chicago Tribune as its source. It is not looking good. I am putting the link in but enclosed in quotes "http://www.gopusa.com/?p=15738?omhide=true" . Three shocks and you're out? Good God.
Not a Cop would ask...
What are we getting for all these taxes we are paying for?
Why doesn't the police union publish a monthly accounting of police manpower?
On the 15th of October the City of Chicago employed:
Superintendent: 1
Deputy Superintendents: ?
...and so on for Captains, Lieutenants, Sergeants, Police Officers, plus Detectives, Canine Handlers.
Better get rid of the residency requirement if the the city wants to attract more applicants. Or at least lift it after 10 years of service. Chicago isn't a desirable place to move to for outsiders
RAHM is spending all the cash before the next police and fire contract are up!!
Pay? The department is already budgeted at 13,500. and there's less than 10,000. Sounds like there's plenty of funds that haven't been used for years..
Just bought a new Corvette, don't cancel VRI.
SAnonymous Anonymous said...
I know a lot of big bosses read this blog. So take a look at my proposal. Keep VRI but increase the activity to 25 parkers and 25 movers per month. If you do that, the revenue generated by the 25 parkers and 25 movers will more than enough pay for the VRI overtime of three days per month. If the officer wants to work more overtime then the activity levels have to be increased. This is a win-win proposal that benefits the officers so they can get time and a half pay working in the city's most dangerous neighborhoods and it is a win for the city because the money does not come from the budget, but it will come from the tickets the officer wrote.
10/12/2016 08:40:00 AM
yea sure you go ahead live beyond your means and do all the traffic stops to maximize the times you can step in shit moron!
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I know a lot of big bosses read this blog. So take a look at my proposal. Keep VRI but increase the activity to 25 parkers and 25 movers per month. If you do that, the revenue generated by the 25 parkers and 25 movers will more than enough pay for the VRI overtime of three days per month. If the officer wants to work more overtime then the activity levels have to be increased. This is a win-win proposal that benefits the officers so they can get time and a half pay working in the city's most dangerous neighborhoods and it is a win for the city because the money does not come from the budget, but it will come from the tickets the officer wrote.
you my friend are an idiot thata why police are hated now! actually there should be no quotas to work overtime...im sure you will have a front page news story soon!!!
"Hint to the media-call around". LOL. There is no investigative reporters left in this terrible city
15 supervisor investigator job opening listed on the city website for COPA. $88,000 a year
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic. At Midway flying to San Diego. SuperNintendo and LT Girlfriend pre-board with people in wheelchairs. Why? Is this an ethics violation? Abusing each of their positions?
10/12/2016 10:05:00 AM
They get pre boarded the airlines especially southwaste do it when requested they are boarded with handicapped bullshit but it is what it is, now wait in line!
screw the OT and the VRI.....unless you want your family to put on your headstone...."here lies (XXX), he worked lots of OT and VRI, was never home with his family and to see his kids grow up"....
Well add one more new Sgt. to Rahm's list. The list will go by fast at this pace.
One Sgt. from Headquarters was caught living outside city. Understand he had been commuting for quite some time. He was asked to resign or ??
So he is gone.
19 Paul covers all.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anybody know how many detective vacancies there are without the new 100 to be promoted?
About 140
1,000 new cops to pay into our p3nsion>>>
>>> Please bring them on!
>>>Anonymous said...
it is all smoke and mirrors
short 500 police officers right now
many more will retire before nov 15
10/12/2016 09:06:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
2016 city budget shows 13,793 full time police positions.....as we all know we are not even close to that number in reality, so where did the money go for all those already budgeted non existing positions.
10/12/2016 09:10:00 AM<<<
A month ago our pension rep said that there were 11,999 sworn members paying into our pension fund. Among those 9,1xx were D-1. I still think that is high and were are losing 30-40 a month. If you count those stripped, medical who knows.
Hopefully they will teach some of these new Officers not to treat victim's and witnesses like shit. We have it hard enough, without Officers going out of their way to alienate good citizens.
onymous said...
15 supervisor investigator job opening listed on the city website for COPA. $88,000 a year
Does that mean 85 investigator jobs. 8 to 1 ratio
ymous said...
Just bought a new Corvette, don't cancel VRI.
LOL. according to these comments you don't see your wife or your kids and you are going to die permaturely
Pay? The department is already budgeted at 13,500. and there's less than 10,000. Sounds like there's plenty of funds that haven't been used for years..
10/12/2016 02:42:00 PM
Get up with the times. A few budgets back Rahm wrote out around 1200 from the budget. Budgeted strength for the last couple of years or longer has been around 12,300
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Better get rid of the residency requirement if the the city wants to attract more applicants. Or at least lift it after 10 years of service. Chicago isn't a desirable place
Good point the city will jump on that idea. They only had like 12,000 applicants for the last test
As far as the city not being a good place to live, your right
That's why wicker park, lake view Edison ok wildwood have all those abandoned buildings and home prices are rising. That along with an article in the paper today that rents are rising in Chicago. That's sounds like good business to me raise the rent when the place you are renting isn't a desirable place to live
, my friend, am one of them. The insurance made it a no brainer for me.
Everyday, I see guys who look like they barely stand up anymore, reporting to 011 to work the downtown VRI detail.
I don't know the next man's financial situation. Still, I can't imagine working my off day, at this stage of my career. Then, again, I aint got 4 kids, an ex-wife, and a current wife. Aint got a house I used to live in, but don't anymore, but am still paying for. In addition to the house I currently live in, and am paying for.
No sympathy here boys. Choices...
Why do you care or are you concerned about who is working VRI. it's none of your business. Your not working it so go build your addition
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Let's see here cut police overtime, cut police retirees health care, let's raise police pension contributions. In the meantime let's give the teachers whatever they want or close to it. I don't care what people say about Karen Lewis she is a UNION president. No other union in Chicago has a president with a set of balls larger then hers.
10/12/2016 12:50:00 PM
All the FOP presidents would have had larger balls than her if the FOP had the right to legally strike. It's that simple, but unfortunately we can't legally strike
Does anyone know what the city pays for health care for retired aldermen? Well I assume Rahm has not cancelled the health insurance for retired politicians
Want to save a boatload of money? Hire retired coppers for almost every inside position at half the salary or less. No training required. No background check required. They can take reports, work CMO, answer calls, any administrative position. Why not?
Anonymous said...
Anybody know how many detective vacancies there are without the new 100 to be promoted?
About 140
10/12/2016 03:52:00 PM
And your 140 is based on what exactly? Rahm's fake budgeted strength numbers? Believe me, the detective division needs a lot more than 140 detectives to start operating properly again. 400 would be a good start.
Gee, lets see. At one time we had about 13,500 officers and a ton of civilians.
Now er are way down and I'm still paying for the 13 thousand in my property taxes. Where did that money go.
With the vast reduction in manpower and costs, where did all that money go?
I asked my alderman. Dead silence.
10/12/2016 10:58:00 AM
Not quite 53% of your property taxes go to the CPS Also part of those property taxes pay for the 7 of the 9% they pay into the pension
The city gets less than half of CPS around 18 to 20% of the property taxes collected
Anonymous Anonymous said...
screw the OT and the VRI.....unless you want your family to put on your headstone...."here lies (XXX), he worked lots of OT and VRI, was never home with his family and to see his kids grow up"....
10/12/2016 03:46:00 PM
Hahahahah! Oh my god you're hilarious! I can think of a thousand other things in life that can cause an early death and working OT isn't one of them. I work VRI and am in the best shape of my life. Just ran the Chicago marathon and also worked VRI a few days prior and I'm still alive. I can tell you that stressing out about what everyone else is doing will bring YOU an early death. Thanks for your concern though. When you get some time on the job you'll get OT too.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Have you guys actually tried to verify how many are signed up for the 55 and out???? It's not 1000 like everyone is saying, it's not 700 and it's not 500. The total number of p.os signed up by October first deadline to retire with the 55 and out is 182... yeah, not 1000. Why not try to verify it yourselves before all the speculation?
To do that would actually require some work. People like to continually post and repeat things they hear in roll call without verifying the info. It is actually pretty said and makes us look like fools.
You should save that comment and copy and paste it. You could use it everyday on the blog
Truer words were never spoken
Saw Wee Zee driving Granny Clampett to Headquarters , we have sunk to a new low!!
The younger officers who just came on and the guys working VRI better start saving now and hope special employment never ends. Start saving for retirement health insurance now or plan a new career if you retire early from this job or stay on till 63 if you can stand it. The city and the politicians can't stand us and definitely don't care about us. God Bless you guys and stay fetal and employed.
Anonymous said...
Bicycle vs vehicle deaths are up because bicyclist think they have some kind of protective force field when they are in those bike lanes.
10/12/2016 01:32:00 PM
...while talking on speakerphone and texting, as they ride the wrong way on one-way streets. I have never seen so many total idiots piloting bicycles in my entire life.
Anonymous said...
People talk about how Rahm would be done if he put out the McDonald video, then we would have Chuey the BLM supporter, no where to turn.
10/12/2016 11:12:00 AM
Chuy would have been easier to jettison after four years.
This guy has big Hollywood money behind him.
Oh-oh, we got a moron here...
"Keep VRI but increase the activity to 25 parkers and 25 movers per month. If you do that, the revenue generated by the 25 parkers and 25 movers will more than enough pay for the VRI..."
– sorry to bust the bubble, Parking Revenue is for not for police, never was and more so today now that LAZ bought the parking rights. Supplemental income initiatives rely on budgets and grants, they are benefits, like Duty Availabilty and eye exams. You are not guaranteed even by Contract that these benefits will always exist.
Enjoy the VRI while you can, make the bosses look good by bringing in all that activity.
Once it's over, the boss will still Demand those 50 tickets or you'll be dumped.
Unfortunately by now you and the other VRI'ers probably even bought into Hillary's Free College Promise too.
Stay Fetal. Guaranteed 1st & 16th. Take it to the bank and buy an older Vette.
Why not put commercial advertisement on the side of patrol cars or your bullet proof
vest or on police stations, this could generate a lot of cash? Commercial messages
over the zones?
I know a lot of big bosses read this blog. So take a look at my proposal. Keep VRI but increase the activity to 25 parkers and 25 movers per month. If you do that, the revenue generated by the 25 parkers and 25 movers will more than enough pay for the VRI overtime of three days per month. If the officer wants to work more overtime then the activity levels have to be increased. This is a win-win proposal that benefits the officers so they can get time and a half pay working in the city's most dangerous neighborhoods and it is a win for the city because the money does not come from the budget, but it will come from the tickets the officer wrote
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You're either the troll or the traffic guy, maybe both. Your solution is to make a bigger QUOTA in spite of the DOJ breathing down our necks for various violations (some fact, some fictitious) of civil rights (a term that grows bigger and broader by the day....almost a point where if you look at the catered to constituents the wrong way it's a violation of their rights)? It has been told to us (the police) that quotas force police to violate people's rights. Tell me, sir, how do you propose that we hold the ghetto fucks (who don't pay their tickets anyways) accountable financially for their various offenses, assuming they actually have a drivers license that we could jeopardize, as if they even give a shit anyways? They won't pay, they never do. The only revenue that would make is from hard working people who are already paying their own share to live in this shithole, in addition to pookie's and Ray Ray's share. And what happens when they don't pay? Raise the rate of the fines, of course! Maybe we can have a link card for Chicago tickets? That passes the cost back to us too! You can't be a cop, seriously, you can't. And if you are, you're a house mouse, a merit hack (because honestly, you're that dumb), or never ever have worked the street or the ghetto. Your idea lacks basic understanding of policing, the streets we work in, economics, and the animal we deal with on the daily.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
From the budget proposal " CPD will continue the civilianization process in 2017 with Sergeants who are acting in administrative functions. Those Sergeants will be returned to law enforcement roles." Uh-ohhhh
10/12/2016 12:56:00 AM
They need to civilianize these bloated Admin, Tact and CAPS offices.
My district has 3 full duty Compstat officers, 3 secretaries, 2 Tact secretaries, 1 or 2 jack-of-all-trade officers, 9 or 10 CAPS officers.
Why aren't they civilianizing them? I thought the litmus test was if you don't need a badge and a gun to do your job then it will be civilianized.
I guess civilians are only replacing the front desk, bidded people huh?
10/12/2016 09:10:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
why are any sworn police officers assigned to administrative assignments
CAPS , Review , Records ,Identification , Evidence & Recovered Property , Tactical ,Commander Secretary and many more .
10/12/2016 09:10:00 AM
Exactly.
All they seemed to be concerned with was civilianizing the district desks which for the most part were manned by bidded officers.
None of the positions you mentioned are covered by bid and none of them need a badge and a gun to do therefore that's where the civilianizarion should be ongoing and would free up the most officers.
We've got at least 15 full duty officers hidden inside and tucked away in my district and I hear most districts are just as bad.
On the same topic, where is the money for the desk civilians coming from??? I'm sure this is part of the ~570 new hires. Put the desk bid guys back out, viola, more manpower. I cant wait to see how the our desk is run with 1 sgt, no PO's and 3 civilians from the community.
They need to civilianize these bloated Admin, Tact and CAPS offices.
My district has 3 full duty Compstat officers, 3 secretaries, 2 Tact secretaries, 1 or 2 jack-of-all-trade officers, 9 or 10 CAPS officers.
Why aren't they civilianizing them? I thought the litmus test was if you don't need a badge and a gun to do your job then it will be civilianized.
I guess civilians are only replacing the front desk, bidded people huh
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while I agree with you that the people who have been hiding in the caps office their whole career or the ladies who are put there because they warm up to the white shirts at the christmas party or other watch parties and are "favored" in the caps office is a bunch of crap the whole purpose of caps is to bring the community and police officers together. it really wouldnt be much of a cop/community relationship if it was just the community dealing with other civilians. believe it or not, I do see how the compstat people work. sure its a nice gig to be inside m-f but with all the garbage they make them go through and put together its actually pretty time consuming. I agree, three people is pretty overkill but I guarantee that it does take 2 people in a district with alot of shootings or crime has a lot of data that compstat requires and if its wrong people will get chewed out about it. I really dont thing a P.O. who does that 5 days a week and actually work at it for an 8 hour tour still might not get it all done. Its alot of nonsense. I was light duty for 2 months and they had me doing it and I COULDNT wait to get back on the street. what a load of crap it is.
why are any sworn police officers assigned to administrative assignments
CAPS , Review , Records ,Identification , Evidence & Recovered Property , Tactical ,Commander Secretary and many more .
10/12/2016 09:10:00 AM
Ask the PO's in your front office, or look around it. The sad fact is, a lot of the civilians can't be bothered to do the job properly. The work ethic of the ones hired is usually lacking. We used to have a 'principal typist' back in the day. Would sit there until something that she felt like typing crossed her desk. Otherwise, absolutely no work from her. Today's citation clerk watches u-tube all day, then the coppers have to bail her out at the end of the month, (when she take a couple FMLA days) because everyone is bitching there VRI activity wasn't put in the system. So yeah, good idea on paper, but.....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic. At Midway flying to San Diego. SuperNintendo and LT Girlfriend pre-board with people in wheelchairs. Why? Is this an ethics violation? Abusing each of their positions?
10/12/2016 10:05:00 AM
They get pre boarded the airlines especially southwaste do it when requested they are boarded with handicapped bullshit but it is what it is, now wait in line
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its called upgrading your ticket. Its done quite often. When you upgrade your ticket you can pre-board. Also, if you fly enough with southwest and are a rapid rewards member and take enough flights you are automatically eligible for preboard. I think you need 30 flights a year to get pre-board status. thats only 15 round trip flights a year. Me thinks as the Supt of police he has gone on more than 15 round trip flights this year for both business and pleasure. But hey, you know it all. Good luck in C boarding group. By the way, Ive been pre-boarding for years. Just have a southwest credit card and when you are checking in go to the desk and ask the girl checking you and your bags in. If you request it 9 times out of 10 they will let you do it if pre-board is pretty light for that flight. Its little things you learn when you fly alot.
"...while talking on speakerphone and texting, as they ride the wrong way on one-way streets. I have never seen so many total idiots piloting bicycles in my entire life."
10/12/2016 06:48:00 PM
You get this more around concentrations of hipsters. Remember the one who got splattered on his fixie, using the expressway as a shortcut?
...but be ready for anything anywhere. Like they say, "don't overdrive your brakes." I take it pretty easy...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Who's to say that the twerp is going to hire from within the patrol ranks for the positions of Detective, Sergeant, etc. Hell he may just appoint civilians to those vacancies like he did with granny Clampett. Now wouldn't that be a hoot Jethro?
10/12/2016 07:31:00 AM
Maybe we can appoint Jed Clampett too. But he wouldn't be a good candidate for swat, he wasn't a very good shot.
Jed clampett video shooting at some food
Front Desk is where you need full duty sworn officers .
7:59 is spot on about the other spots , all civilian at half the pay .
These magic tricks will end when Trump wins. Hiring less police then those leaving and then claiming you are increasing manpower. Just say you are reducing overtime and saving money with 500 less police. I feel that honest Abe would approve this message.
5:36 PM yes hire retired guys 4-10 days a month $22 an hour .
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Let's see here cut police overtime, cut police retirees health care, let's raise police pension contributions. In the meantime let's give the teachers whatever they want or close to it. I don't care what people say about Karen Lewis she is a UNION president. No other union in Chicago has a president with a set of balls larger then hers.
10/12/2016 12:50:00 PM
All the FOP presidents would have had larger balls than her if the FOP had the right to legally strike. It's that simple, but unfortunately we can't legally strike
10/12/2016 05:14:00 PM
That's the same bullshit statement all the time. If we stick together, I repeat stick together, there are other ways to show strength and get Rahm to buckle. At this moment we are a laughing stock and the city and feds are jamming it up our ass and all the FOP is doing is handing them the lube.
The Dept. of Finance will soon be monitoring the O.T. In all the Detective Areas & will begin to implement ways to slow down all these Detectives who have a pattern of putting in a HIGH VOLUME of overtime each period .... Big Brother is WATCHING !!!!!
Have you guys actually tried to verify how many are signed up for the 55 and out???? It's not 1000 like everyone is saying, it's not 700 and it's not 500. The total number of p.os signed up by October first deadline to retire with the 55 and out is 182... yeah, not 1000. Why not try to verify it yourselves before all the speculation?
True. But almost 500 have retired this year already. Plus the 182 POs/Dets and another 30 or so exempts, capts, lts, sgts and you are damn close to 1000 retirees this year.
Why do you care or are you concerned about who is working VRI. it's none of your business. Your not working it so go build your addition.
Never said I cared. Because I don't.
Simply made an observation.
Hit Dogs Will Holler.
The Dept. of Finance will soon be monitoring the O.T. In all the Detective Areas & will begin to implement ways to slow down all these Detectives who have a pattern of putting in a HIGH VOLUME of overtime each period .... Big Brother is WATCHING !!!!!
They should. First let me say there are some hard working Detectives that earn every penny. Then there are the guys that do little to nothing, yet somehow manage these huge OT checks. They are stealing with both hands and openly bragging about it. Poor Supervision is part of the problem. Pigs get fat, Hogs get slaughtered.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
screw the OT and the VRI.....unless you want your family to put on your headstone...."here lies (XXX), he worked lots of OT and VRI, was never home with his family and to see his kids grow up"....
10/12/2016 03:46:00 PM
Hahahahah! Oh my god you're hilarious! I can think of a thousand other things in life that can cause an early death and working OT isn't one of them. I work VRI and am in the best shape of my life. Just ran the Chicago marathon and also worked VRI a few days prior and I'm still alive. I can tell you that stressing out about what everyone else is doing will bring YOU an early death. Thanks for your concern though. When you get some time on the job you'll get OT too.
10/12/2016 05:50:00 PM
the point wasn't that OT and VRI causes an early death....the point was, after years of working afternoons and weekends, the kids used to be 10 years and younger; after all of that work, they were in college or getting married; yes, the money helped pay for expenses and tuitions, but they grew up and I missed it. As far as time on the job, after 40 years on, and now retired a few years, and having seen quite a few former co-workers passed on, was all of the work worth it?....no....my philosophy may be....any of us has just one life to live, just one shot at it, so, make the best of it, however you feel about it
That's the same bullshit statement all the time. If we stick together, I repeat stick together, there are other ways to show strength and get Rahm to buckle. At this moment we are a laughing stock and the city and feds are jamming it up our ass and all the FOP is doing is handing them the lube.
Ok. Give us the other ways to show strength and get Rahm to buckle. Forget the voting block. That is pure BS to believe you can get all the police, family and friends to vote a certain. That's just a pipe dream.
Now give us some other ways
It amazes me how the Dept. regularly puts the kibosh on overtime over the years. Each time claiming that only critical OT will be approved. In the D unit, I have had offenders in custody near the end of my tour and they were sent home to be arrested later. (class X felony) No shit! For a while your OT slip will be scrutinized/approved by the CO's office then Lt's. & Sgt's will be assigned to handle it again. Back to normal. In patrol I remember being turned down for OT on a routine case at the end of the tour. Bad call. WC denied OT and sent everyone home, and it turned out to be NOT so routine. Got called in by the Area when the case hit the media, and the shit hit the fan.
Always cover your ass...if you are sent home early on a case, document it!
I don't do OT anymore. VRI is for other people. And I cant wait to pull the plug...No one should wonder why crime is UP!
OT will go down once Foxx takes over anyway since too many people are already in jail.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic. At Midway flying to San Diego. SuperNintendo and LT Girlfriend pre-board with people in wheelchairs. Why? Is this an ethics violation? Abusing each of their positions?
10/12/2016 10:05:00 AM
They get pre boarded the airlines especially southwaste do it when requested they are boarded with handicapped bullshit but it is what it is, now wait in line
&&&&&&&&&&&&
its called upgrading your ticket. Its done quite often. When you upgrade your ticket you can pre-board. Also, if you fly enough with southwest and are a rapid rewards member and take enough flights you are automatically eligible for preboard. I think you need 30 flights a year to get pre-board status. thats only 15 round trip flights a year. Me thinks as the Supt of police he has gone on more than 15 round trip flights this year for both business and pleasure. But hey, you know it all. Good luck in C boarding group. By the way, Ive been pre-boarding for years. Just have a southwest credit card and when you are checking in go to the desk and ask the girl checking you and your bags in. If you request it 9 times out of 10 they will let you do it if pre-board is pretty light for that flight. Its little things you learn when you fly alot.
10/12/2016 09:29:00 PM
Sure boss nice try work at airport southwest has absolutely no pre board upgrade its the wink and nod program the only mandated is handicapped people everyone else is on the bullshit! While your waiting in line with your upgraded "A" group boarding pass that entitles you to board Among the first 50 but no pre board it's disgusting watching bosses board ahead of handicapped people and very disgraceful personally I never fly that airline!
I am guessing OT for any case involving cameras on scene will double the amount of overtime.
The sates attorneys want to watch all those pesky body cams,dash video, and of course blurry pod cameras.
Each officer will hang around and watch each and every video and then start typing the report.
No statement to Detectives till all the video watching is done.
Good luck special ED.
The Guy In Helmet, Fluorescent Vest, Reflectors, Four Working Lights said...
"...while talking on speakerphone and texting, as they ride the wrong way on one-way streets. I have never seen so many total idiots piloting bicycles in my entire life."
10/12/2016 06:48:00 PM
You get this more around concentrations of hipsters. Remember the one who got splattered on his fixie, using the expressway as a shortcut?
...but be ready for anything anywhere. Like they say, "don't overdrive your brakes." I take it pretty easy...
10/12/2016 09:51:00 PM
You're spot-on.
That particular space-pilot was observed in Logan Square.
495 vacancies across all ranks. I confirmed with the city. (this includes those who filed intent to retire on Oct. 1, 2016) 274 expected to retire in 2017.
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