We're Getting Horses??
- Chicago aldermen agreed Friday to put the cart before the horse — or rather, the squad car before the police officer.
The City Council’s Finance Committee tacked $25 million onto a previously-approved, $1.25 billion borrowing to bankroll the purchase of 600 new police vehicles for the 970 new officers Mayor Rahm Emanuel has promised to hire over the next two years.
The earlier borrowing included $40 million for new vehicles of all kinds, including garbage trucks, snow plows and street sweepers. But the $7 million worth of police vehicles included in that prior purchase will not be enough to serve the new officers.
So wait......no horses? Damn.
And are we reading this correctly? $25 million for 600 "vehicles?" Could we get a breakdown of these vehicles? Last time the city made a wholesale purchase of vehicles, a sizable number ended up being unmarked exempt vehicles, marked supervisor cars, and the watches saw a fairly low number of cars actually coming for street duty - all purchased from a connected suburban dealer, too.
And are we reading this correctly? $25 million for 600 "vehicles?" Could we get a breakdown of these vehicles? Last time the city made a wholesale purchase of vehicles, a sizable number ended up being unmarked exempt vehicles, marked supervisor cars, and the watches saw a fairly low number of cars actually coming for street duty - all purchased from a connected suburban dealer, too.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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It is the Chicago Way. Don't count your squads before they roll down the street.
Hopefully no more of these shitty little Ford Explorers with zero legroom and Soviet army style seats.
A truly miserable vehicle that is wrecking officers' hips.
The dept has been letting the fleet diminish by attrition, same as the officers. So, now, though there's a standing budget item for squad cars (NOT cruisers, media!!), he's tacking the purchase of basic equipment onto a LOAN request?
There are so many things wrong with this, I don't know where to start. Maybe some enterprising media investigator could... ah, never mind.
Traffic missions everyday at VRI starting today...w/ the yellow traffic vests.
$25 million for 600 vehicles is $41,666 per car. Is that right? Will they have entertainment systems?
Someone's beak needs to be wetted, election around the corner.
You mean... The magnificent 7 will ride in Austin? Denzel too!
When you buy Vehicles for a municipality at large numbers you get them below Dealer Invoice which is thousands below sticker price and you buy them factory direct,The City buys them from a local connected Dealer for over sticker and it costs the tax payers millions
Merit packet announcement for sgts and detectives to be announced in the admins Monday morning. that was quick.
OT: not a cop. I have to side with youz guyz here. A good consumer can talk an auto salesman down alot. (Tip: if got want to buy a car get the absolute best quote from truecar. Truecar only. Print that page and bring it go the dealer. You're welcome). $40,000,000 is a ridiculous amount of dough for activities. Let's say Chicago buys 15 new snow plows. Max those plows retail at $1,500 a pop. Slash city and bulk price so roughly 1,250$. Add 500 Tahoe's at 45,000$... Drop city and bulk so roughly 41,000$ a piece. Max 10 garbage trucks at maybe gal a MIL a pop. Nowhere near 40,000,000.
PS still gotta treat law abiding citizens well.
Little under 42k per vehicle. Price new cars lately? This almost sounds like a deal, until you realize whos providing and where they are going. Keep pushing your beater. ..no relief in sight.
they shot at an occupied Christ the king school bus around 1800 hit driver in head on the near west side today.
nice city tiny dancer an occupied school bus. you already threw us under the bus!!!! what about the children?
I hope that includes a few bat mobiles and maybe a Harley or two
Hahaha- 006 1st watch will still "be waiting on keys squad!" For the first two hours everyday.
I just emailed you a photo of the car situation that the ET's deal with daily. We have more people now than we've had for quite some time but nowhere near enough vehicles. And of the ones we do have, most are shitboxes averaging 130-150K on the odometer and not roadworthy. We drive these things all day, every day from one end of the city to the other, not to mention to suburbs outside the city limits regularly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we down unsafe vehicles regularly but not enough people here will do that (just like in the districts) lest "their" regular car never returns. All new cars should go to people that DRIVE everywhere all day, every day. Not district beat cars - or worse - narcotics apprehension teams. And certainly NOT to surpervisors.
41666 per vehicle. Cmon man...
I'm surprised they didn't wait until next year so the FOP could negotiate new vehicles into the contract!!!
Complain about the current condition of vehicles when we are the ones who treat these vehicles like shit and then complain about how they look and run. Fill them with garbage, rip the seats and steering wheel, break the radio knobs and write all over the interior and then drive them like and a-hole. Then complain about the condition. Typical ungrateful copper. Assign vehicles and make each officer individually responsible for the damages and see how fast some of the pigs out there learn to respect property.
$25 million for 600 vehicles is $41,666 per car. Is that right? Will they have entertainment systems?
10/01/2016 12:30:00 AM
That's correct. You'd think buying 25 million dollars worth of vehicles that you could manage a bit of a better deal than that. Who gives a fuck, it's tax payer money right? Plus they're borrowing the 25 million so it's actually costing more because of interest. They haven't bought a new squad car in 10 years and now they have to borrow the money to buy these. Makes you wonder where all the money this city pulls in goes.
MSRP for explorer V6 AWD around $35k on edmunds.
Hire 970 ...Final number for retirement for 2017 from CPD ??????
Cmon SCC of course we will get new cars. All of the above fore mentions will get BRAND NEW cars, and patrol will get their OLD cars. Which in Rahm's mind are the new cars the FOP " bargained for".
MSRP on the base 3.7 AWD Ford Explorer Police Interceptor is $31,175. If the extra $10k includes the light bar and control box, PDT and mount, vinyl, and rifle rack, $41k isn't outlandish. If it's just the car, the city is grossly overpaying.
Ask the FOP where OUR (not the boss's) cars are? idiots.
They don't need the middleman car dealer. More waste. More money to friends.
Why does this purchase go through a "Dealer", and a Suburban one at that? We are talking Fleet here, and Fleet Purchases should go directly through the manufacturer. Or is this dealer a big contributor to the Cook County Democrat Party, and or Rahm's Political War Chest? Where are the Feds and Inspector General on this? Once again they are slipping one past us. If I purchase a vehicle outside of the City, the City gets me on the City Tax, does that apply to City purchases? The kick-back on these "Deals" could be in the millions for someone who is surely not residing in the City. WHY? Is this what Rahm means when he talks about "Chicago Values". Baby"G"
41,666.00 per car. Figure roughly city or a municipality can negotiate a price of 25,000 per vehicle. But don't forget equipment costs of lightbar package, siren, video, laptop, etc which is probably another 10,000 per car. Plus installation, so maybe they can buy a few extra cars then once final costs negotiated.
Or is the extra saved money going somewhere else?
Please -
It's " 970 NET NEW officers ".
Not 970 new. Not '500 additional'. Not '970 trained' or any other BS.
Rahm promised '970 net new by the end of 2018'.
970 + cover for around 1000 retirees + another 150 or so who leave for other reasons + account for those who was out of training....means hiring about 100 EACH AND EVERY MONTH.
Actual active force strength today ~ 12,100. So it should be ~13,100 officers & trainees by 12/31/18.
If you don't hold his feet to the fire, and the alder-mooks too, it's not going to happen.
The price is actually closer to 33k per vehicle. The rest is for stickers, divider, new electrical, rifle lock, lights, siren, GPS, camera.
What about take home cars for the SWAT officers. Chicago narcotics officers who work desk jobs get take home cars. Even IAD people get take home cars.
and, you have to watch for unmarked fully equipped police cars that never make it to the department, but end up in other city departments, namely department heads. It has happened many times before. It is the same as civilians hidden in the police department budget but never work for the police department. It is typical city hall games.
Sorry folks but you all need to be held accountable regarding how bad you guys take care of squad cars. I have never seen so many arrogant people when it comes to putting gas and taking care of cars. CPD needs to hold coppers accountable and SGTS. need to inspect cars at the end of each watch. Grow up and stop making excuses.
we need a trump like guy or girl to run for mayor!
Is this the end of the year clearance sale price??????
You mentioned "snow plows"...
Weatherman Tom Skilling said that we had the warmest September 1978. That was the year of the big snowfall that helped decide the Jane Byrne Michael Balandic election.
Rahm won't let a crisis like that go to waste.
Oooooh, oooh, the city is doing us a favor, these vehicles were not part of our fop contract. /s
I give a fuck if I walk the beat, fund our pension.
At $40,000 per vehicle, that's 633 vehicles. Don't forget, the radios, pdt's etc should be coming out of the 911 budget. If you remember, that's one of the reasons we had an increase in 911 fees.
We pay for the vehicle, lights, sirens and decals.
Didn't we used to buy cars out of the capital budget years ago? These should already be budgeted, but maybe someone in city hall is playing with the department funding???
By the way, we used to buy from 400 to 500 cars a year, but that is when we had staffing.
Borrowing money paid back over how many years to purchase something that will last just a few years, bankruptcy here we come.
42,000 a car- seems like we need trump to do some negotiating
It costs at least 10-12k per car for camera, computer, lightd sirens etc.
It costs at least 10-12k per car for camera, computer, lightd sirens etc.
Explorers aren't cheap, they enhance suspension and brakes. Then they have to have them sent out for the light, sirens,cameras, etc....
The cost will be closer to 50k per car by the time it's said and done.
The city can't buy direct, they have to use a dealer that has minioiry connection. Its basically like paying juice . I used to live by the company that made a lot of our paper reports and I got to know some of the workers. The company would charge say $100 for a box of reports, but they would give it to their minority middleman and he would charge about a 25% fee to the city. So now the same reports would cost $125.
That's just a small example of why this city is billions in debt.
Relax. Its authorization for an RFP. That's Request for Proposal. Its the first step for a contract...it takes awhile....bids, etc. This should be good news....it suggests they want to ramp up fast with coppers. 41K per car sounds about right for radios, computers, sirens, lights, all the other stuff....I sat in an ISP car (by choice at a Safety Fair) and it seemed kinda cramped with all the stuff in it....
I just emailed you a photo of the car situation that the ET's deal with daily. We have more people now than we've had for quite some time but nowhere near enough vehicles. And of the ones we do have, most are shitboxes averaging 130-150K on the odometer and not roadworthy. We drive these things all day, every day from one end of the city to the other, not to mention to suburbs outside the city limits regularly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we down unsafe vehicles regularly but not enough people here will do that (just like in the districts) lest "their" regular car never returns. All new cars should go to people that DRIVE everywhere all day, every day. Not district beat cars - or worse - narcotics apprehension teams. And certainly NOT to surpervisors.
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Since when hasn't a beat car driven around all day? Another salty ass ET who gets mad at the beat car guys for doing their job, in turn making you have to do yours. Shut up and drive the same shit boxes we all do and quit complaining. Nobody feels sorry for you
Hopefully no more of these shitty little Ford Explorers with zero legroom and Soviet army style seats.
A truly miserable vehicle that is wrecking officers' hips.
10/01/2016 12:24:00 AM
I am pretty sure Ford has some experts design the seats. They may have even been smarter than YOU! Maybe.
Maybe you should lose some weight.
Upfitting cost several thousand, and if these are truly new cars, equipment purchase (light bars, radios, etc) should be included in budget line along with vehicle purchase
The troops will get all the old exempt, tact, traffic, detective and specialized unit vehicle's, just like they always do!
(OT) everyday the Hillary scandals and lies get exposed pure evil:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-30/hacked-recording-hillary-mocks-bernie-supporters-living-their-parents’-basement
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When you buy Vehicles for a municipality at large numbers you get them below Dealer Invoice which is thousands below sticker price and you buy them factory direct,The City buys them from a local connected Dealer for over sticker and it costs the tax payers millions
10/01/2016 01:02:00 AM
You can not buy from the factory directly. GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota etc. won't sell directly to anyone in the USA.
Why spend money you don't have when you can borrow like there is a tomorrow.
Only a Daley-Rahm brokerage can collect the commission, fees & interest payments first and up front.
Remember folks, a Rahm promise is a promise no matter what it's going to cost you.
And....
We need more golf carts and vans to sit idly at the Areas, while you're at it, how about renewing the inflated leases for the short buses too.
Somewhere in every City purchase or lease there's a whole lot of side money to be made. Pretty sharp IG we have.
(Ford Fusion/Explorer avg @ $30/35,000 x 833/714 units = $25 mil whereas a base unit at your neighborhood dealer is under $20/27k) The 2 man MMD crew that puts in the lights & siren is plenty'nuff to outfit up to 2 vehicles a week is certainly costly. Why have Ford do it streamlined and steady before delivery? Oh, can't hide the factory installed invoice with legitamate equipment listed...I get it.
As for horses, way out of the green energy realm...too much flatulence for Third World Chicago.
The Mounted Unit will be outfitted with over priced outdated electric Segways (think of the pony on a stick - with wheels).
According to my math 25 million buys 833 new vehicles at $30,000 each. There was 7 million previously earmarked for new police vehicles so that would be an additional 233 vehicles at $30,000 each. That would mean 1066 new police vehicles. Never happening but looks good on paper.Interesting how much other police departments pay for their vehicles compared to crook county where inside deals are the norm when the taxpayers are footing the bill.
http://www.cleveland.com/independence/index.ssf/2015/05/how_much_does_a_police_car_cos.html
The base price is probably 35k but you have to add in the cost of lights, sirens ,
cages & other costs , it's probably higher that 41K per vehicle.
The way I am reading this it is 32 million for 600 cars. The original budget of 7 million for replacement vehicles plus an additional 25 million to support this reshuffle plus a few new officers for patrol. This means$53,000.00 plus for each vehicle. Okay, police packages aren't cheap but when your buying in bulk for 600 vehicles I have no doubt it can be bought for much less. Does this money include spare replacement parts? Extended warranty? Yeah right.
Maybe try the Tauras style squad car instead of the little SUV ? The state drives the new Caprice now. Time for the return of the Chevy cop car ? The Dodge Charger was a huge failure,too many repairs.
In all fairness, a couple grand a pop for a fancy lightbar, some computer gizmos, cameras, custom interior parts, etc. etc. all sourced from the highest minority woman owned bidder. It adds up. Gone are the days of some Mars lights and a siren...maybe time to go back to those days?
That breaks down to an average of a little over $41K per vehicle......something doesn't sound right about this.
Methinks some connected dealership is getting fat at the taxpayers expense.
Do any of Tiny Dancer or Shortshanks friends or relatives own a Ford dealership??
They're gonna use their captive ho's (VRI officers) to generate activity.
For the love of God, buy some more wagons....no more vans!!! Whomever thought that those stupid, impractical vans were a good idea should be dragged out into the street and shot.
This is all laughable. We will not see an increase in manpower - in fact it will continue to diminish as more people continue to retire well before they originally planned. They have not kept up with replacing retirees for YEARS. They would have to implement a mass hiring for 2-3 consecutive years to get back to full strength. As for new equipment, we are still pushing crown vics and tahoes with 150K + and rusted out. We wouldn't be in this mess if the city actually stuck to a responsible budget and used money for only what it was allocated. Trump hit the nail on the head during the debate when he compared our failing infrastructure (roads, airports) to third world conditions. Chicago is a prime example. Who the hell would've thought that here in 2016 we are drinking water from a municipal system which still utilizes lead pipes!
New death wish movie being filmed here in chiraq:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/10/01/cameras-roll-for-death-wish-remake-in-chicago/
This is real time they could just drive around and film "live" shootings! Rip Paul Kersey Charles Bronson! They chose blood city the most shooting in the country!
Keep shoveling. With that much manure, there's a pony in there somewhere.
Sorry folks but you all need to be held accountable regarding how bad you guys take care of squad cars. I have never seen so many arrogant people when it comes to putting gas and taking care of cars. CPD needs to hold coppers accountable and SGTS. need to inspect cars at the end of each watch. Grow up and stop making excuses.
10/01/2016 08:46:00 AM
Hey dumbass! YOU are responsible for inspecting your vehicle at the beginning and end of your tour. YOU are responsible for reporting any damage or other issues you see. You want others to "grow up and stop making excuses," yet you need daddy Sgt to inspect your car for you? Let's hear your excuses for not doing it yourself and reporting the problems with the vehicles. You want a Sgt to walk around the lot looking for every car that was used on the watch checking for damage, or missing equipment, garbage in the vehicle, etc.? You're a fucking idiot. I'll tell you what... the Sgt will go inspect the cars at the end of the tour while the POs wait to hear what he finds. Then you get written up for anything found. So, you get to work your full tour, and you get written up for not doing your job, or for damaging the vehicle and not reporting it. Sounds like a good plan, moron. I swear some of you have zero concept of personal responsibility and it's only getting worse. YOU need to grow up. Better yet, get a different job.
These Exploers are shit! Why can't they make a police package with comfortable seats! They still haven't addressed the water pooling in the front how about installing drains like in the back of the Tahoe.
Fleet purchases go through a dealer. All of you "experts" need to learn what you're talking about before you post stupid shit on the blog.
So the merit Capital of the world (aka hq)decided last night thirty minutes before roll call that VRI will be traffic missions. Well thanks boss for the well thought out plan. Now I get to drive up and down a three block stretch and write tss cards (which the dept is out of) and screw up traffic for what? Just so you can force us to wear those ridiculous yellow vests. Not sure if you know but the traffic division has been doing this for twenty years. And with people who want to write tickets. Please check their stats to see how many weapons or drugs they have recovered. You will be disappointed and just a suggestion but maybe think things out next time. Those yellow vests will not stop the ethnic cleansing of the city!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Please -
It's " 970 NET NEW officers ".
Not 970 new. Not '500 additional'. Not '970 trained' or any other BS.
Rahm promised '970 net new by the end of 2018'.
970 + cover for around 1000 retirees + another 150 or so who leave for other reasons + account for those who was out of training....means hiring about 100 EACH AND EVERY MONTH.
Actual active force strength today ~ 12,100. So it should be ~13,100 officers & trainees by 12/31/18.
If you don't hold his feet to the fire, and the alder-mooks too, it's not going to happen.
10/01/2016 08:38:00 AM
Apparently you're not well versed in Rahmenomics
10/01/2016 08:39:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What about take home cars for the SWAT officers. Chicago narcotics officers who work desk jobs get take home cars. Even IAD people get take home cars.
10/01/2016 08:41:00 AM
The latter 2 units mentioned mainly only work M-F..... WTF is that all about?
This is CPD and we're a 24/7 365 day operation...... or is that only for the grunts??
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Traffic missions everyday at VRI starting today...w/ the yellow traffic vests.
10/01/2016 12:28:00 AM
They're going to use their captive ho's(VRI officers) to generate activity for Rahm
Motor maintenance or what ever they call it now used to install the lights & stripes. So 10k a car is a tad steep. The light bar company would gladly like to sell 600 lights and give the city a fair bulk price; but then no one would get "their cut". Also, a buddy owned a upfitter company and had a contract to install a few different styles of PDT mounts; some clout baby in fleet then picked the cheapest. My buddy then was paid to teach the MM goons for one week in how to instal them... point is most of the crap is half assed shoved in by some napa auto dropout now working for the city.
The City buys them from a local connected Dealer for over sticker and it costs the tax payers millions
10/01/2016 01:02:00 AM
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If this is true - WHERE IS THE INSPECTOR GENERAL?
Do you know Chicago could get the SAME price deal the state gets on buying vehicles from a Master Purchasing Agreement?
Most suburbs use that Master Purchasing Agreement to get THEIR pricing for squad cars and SUVs. It's a good price (WAY below MSRP)
Does the City do BETTER than that price? If not, someone should be going to jail - plain and simple.
No reason for Chicago, which is buying a BIG Fleet, to pay anything more than what the state has negotiated. If anything, for a large single purchase, the Chicago price should be even LESS than the state guideline/ master agreement.
Where is the Inspector General?
BETTER QUESTION IS - where is ANY of the 50 Rubberstamp Aldermen asking about the validity of this purchase price?
I have been saying it for a couple of years already on SCC Blog, cut back the Aldermen and their staffs AND Ward funds down to 20-25 and the city would see absolutely NO CHANGE in the quality of services. Well they would, if they would spend that saved money on police resources and pension funds that they have shortchanged.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sorry folks but you all need to be held accountable regarding how bad you guys take care of squad cars. I have never seen so many arrogant people when it comes to putting gas and taking care of cars. CPD needs to hold coppers accountable and SGTS. need to inspect cars at the end of each watch. Grow up and stop making excuses.
10/01/2016 08:46:00 AM
They should go back to beats having assigned cars. Back when we were doing that, coppers took better care of the cars, some even brought in their own cleaning supplies and kept the cars like their own personal cars.
A lot of the damage these cars have is a different matter. I think a majority of the damage is from speed bumps installed all over side streets. Coppers going to hot call or going to assist another officer calling for help, especially when it is dark out, aren't focusing on speed bumps in the road and hit them going at a good clip. The bumps wreak havoc on undercarriages and front suspensions, some of these fords we have with 10,000-20,000 miles ride like an old jalopy on the highway with shimmying front ends, turn the steering wheels and you hear creaking and thumping. So it really isn't negligence on the officers part, just a victim of the city's decision to cut back on number warm bodies, and having streets and San installing speed bumps "stationary policemen."
You know the city is NOT Really hiring over 1000 new police officers ,,,,June 1 over 1000 police officers are retiring to get the insurance benefit 55 and out all he's doing is replacing the retirees he's not hiring an additional thousand officers do the math
When you're buying Millions in cars you deal with factory fleet management, Not the Dealer's fleet Dept.I was in the car business on a Tahoe the price is 2500$ below invoice.
Speaking of money in the budget, Chief Anne Kirkpatrick has hired her girlfriend from Seattle as her deputy. This is not a joke.
10:55AM........
Hey asshole. 190lbs., 6'1"
The vehicle sucks, and btw, CPD Explorers come with the standard, cheapest seat. However, even the greatest seat in the world won't change the fact that there is no room for your legs......unless you're a midget.
Chicago should use Civil Forfeiture more. With the number of dope dealers you have it seems that if you took every car involved in a "Possession with intent" bust, there would be enough cars for every cop to drive a take home car.
PS Only target the luxury models as they will be carrying more 'weight'.
News reporting fewer homocides this year than last for September. True or false ?
Jane Byrne, back in the day, proposed buying vehicles that ran on natural gas, which showed the potential of saving over a million dollars a month, in '81 gas prices. So how's a about it Rham?
Ahhhh so that's why they made the exempt parking spots bigger at 35th. Time for the gold badge vehicle rotation.
I know nobody cares but we haven't got a new car in Gang Enforcement in 3 years. All the crown vics have over 120,000+ miles.
Didn't Dean negotiate in the last contract that we are suppose to get 500 new cars per the contract. Did the 500 cars ever come to fruition or was that just another Rahm BS story.
Since when hasn't a beat car driven around all day? Another salty ass ET who gets mad at the beat car guys for doing their job, in turn making you have to do yours. Shut up and drive the same shit boxes we all do and quit complaining. Nobody feels sorry for you
Two things. 1- there is no way in hell a beat car gets driven the same amount as an ET car. Your jobs keep you in the district 99% of the time while the ETs work areas made up of several districts. On all 3 watches. 2-where did you see the original poster complaining about doing his or her job? Your ignorance is as high mileage as these fucking cars. You must be a supervisor with those reasoning and logic skills. Jackass.
Anonymous said...
Hopefully no more of these shitty little Ford Explorers with zero legroom and Soviet army style seats.
A truly miserable vehicle that is wrecking officers' hips.
10/01/2016 12:24:00 AM
I am pretty sure Ford has some experts design the seats. They may have even been smarter than YOU! Maybe.
Maybe you should lose some weight.
10/01/2016 10:55:00 AM
Lose weight! Not everyone is a skinny 140 pound too light to fight too thin to win pinhead like yourself. I was a big guy and in good shape. But when I put on my body armor and gun belt and leather jacket I could not get in and out of a Chevy Caprice. That car was a real hazard.
I loved my old Ford Crown Vic and thank God I retired before all this car switching non-sense. I did everything I could to keep that car in great shape including checking all the fluids and the tires. When I bought new floor mats for my own car I put the old but perfectly serviceable mats in my squad car. I treated it like it was my car. Minor problems, most times I would fix them myself before calling the R-Man. I was really pissed off when somebody did any damage to it on another watch.
Anonymous said...
$25 million for 600 vehicles is $41,666 per car. Is that right? Will they have entertainment systems?
10/01/2016 12:30:00 AM
For that price, they should come with chauffeurs.
Anonymous said...
The base price is probably 35k but you have to add in the cost of lights, sirens ,
cages & other costs , it's probably higher that 41K per vehicle.
10/01/2016 12:33:00 PM
What are we getting, Mercedes-Benz' or BMW's?
VRO Traffic missions...gee, wonder why they just "updated" the rules for ISR's, which are now required suspended D/L arrests? How timely.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Explorers aren't cheap, they enhance suspension and brakes. Then they have to have them sent out for the light, sirens,cameras, etc....
The cost will be closer to 50k per car by the time it's said and done.
The city can't buy direct, they have to use a dealer that has minioiry connection. Its basically like paying juice . I used to live by the company that made a lot of our paper reports and I got to know some of the workers. The company would charge say $100 for a box of reports, but they would give it to their minority middleman and he would charge about a 25% fee to the city. So now the same reports would cost $125.
That's just a small example of why this city is billions in debt.
10/01/2016 10:33:00 AM
I believe the report thing, but they don't send the cars off to be enhanced. It's a police package that Ford sells. So....get over yourself. Also, whomever said the seats are too small...lose some fucking weight
N THE KNOW said...
The City buys them from a local connected Dealer for over sticker and it costs the tax payers millions
10/01/2016 01:02:00 AM
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If this is true - WHERE IS THE INSPECTOR GENERAL?
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He's doing what the mayor tells him to.
Don't forget PO's smoking in the vehicles leaving the next PO to sit in an "ashtray" and pouring everything and anything on the PDT's.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
These Exploers are shit! Why can't they make a police package with comfortable seats! They still haven't addressed the water pooling in the front how about installing drains like in the back of the Tahoe.
10/01/2016 03:37:00 PM
Pour some Epsom salt in the water, take your shoes and socks off and relax!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ahhhh so that's why they made the exempt parking spots bigger at 35th. Time for the gold badge vehicle rotation.
10/01/2016 10:51:00 PM
Nope they were made bigger so Fast Eddie could get out of the car..... Needed the extra room.
Notice Deano has been very silent. Deano is waiting for March and the election. What a horses ass to think he is gonna rally the troops at the very last minute. Dean go away mad, happy, sad who cares just go away. Oh and be sure you don't charge any dinners for your friends and family on the FOP credit cad like you did when you were forced out the last time. Did junior get those stripes yet or are they on order.
http://www.cleveland.com/independence/index.ssf/2015/05/how_much_does_a_police_car_cos.html
In 2014, the state signed contracts for six police vehicles, and dealers froze prices for the same models in 2015. See all six contracts below.
The Ford Interceptor SUV was the most popular vehicle in a survey of 47 Northeast Ohio cities. Here's a rundown of the six models and some options:
Ford Interceptor sedan: $22,977
Options include:
3.5-liter V6 engine with EcoBoost fuel-efficiency system: $3,049
Two-tone paint: $819
Trunk interior warning lights: $379
Chevrolet Impala sedan: $20,633
Options include:
Light-flasher system: $370
Factory alarm: $268
Trunk interior warning lights: $222
Dodge Charger sedan: $21,979
Options include:
All-wheel drive, V8 engine: $2,870
Two-tone paint: $1,680
Back-up camera: $345
Chevrolet Caprice: $26,493
Options include:
Auxiliary battery in trunk: $225
Vinyl floors and vinyl rear bench seat: $105
Keys that match other police vehicles: $66
Ford Interceptor sport-utility vehicle: $24,729
Options include:
Rear lights for cargo area: $687
Carpet: $389
Heated outside rear-view mirrors: $59
Chevrolet Tahoe SUV: $28,674
Options include:
Four-wheel drive: $2,995
High-polished aluminum wheels: $544
Special red paint: $470
buy the prius for supervisors
save gas
So the merit Capital of the world (aka hq)decided last night thirty minutes before roll call that VRI will be traffic missions. Well thanks boss for the well thought out plan. Now I get to drive up and down a three block stretch and write tss cards (which the dept is out of) and screw up traffic for what? Just so you can force us to wear those ridiculous yellow vests. Not sure if you know but the traffic division has been doing this for twenty years. And with people who want to write tickets. Please check their stats to see how many weapons or drugs they have recovered. You will be disappointed and just a suggestion but maybe think things out next time. Those yellow vests will not stop the ethnic cleansing of the city!
10/01/2016 04:00:00 PM
Maybe you morons working VRI will stop volunteering to mask the manpower shortage now that you'll be forced to actually do something while you're there. You're volunteering to be the department's bitch. Do what they want or don't volunteer. Fucking crybabies everywhere on this department.
Didn't Dean negotiate in the last contract that we are suppose to get 500 new cars per the contract. Did the 500 cars ever come to fruition or was that just another Rahm
This bosses are all enjoying them. You got the hand me downs
Maybe you morons working VRI will stop volunteering to mask the manpower shortage now that you'll be forced to actually do something while you're there. You're volunteering to be the department's bitch. Do what they want or don't volunteer. Fucking crybabies everywhere on this department.
10/02/2016 02:03:00 PM
Yes indeed. The VRI tools are only helping the city and cutting coppers throats at the same time. Too many one way MF'ers on this job, "but I gotta pay for my Harley, kids tuition, ect.ect." Where does it end? Live within your means. Probably the same ones were more worried about getting a retro check instead of questioning the insanity of Rahm purchasing squad cars being inserted into our contract.
The Ford explorers lower seat cushion is small compared to the Crown vic. While the Vics seat cushion extends to your knees, the Explorer seat barely extends halfway across your thigh. That seems to be why they're so uncomfortable.
Still checking out that old ford key driving the clapped out vic. Gonna miss these when they disappear.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don't forget PO's smoking in the vehicles leaving the next PO to sit in an "ashtray" and pouring everything and anything on the PDT's.
10/02/2016 09:02:00 AM
Get an air freshener. Leave the smokers alone.
Focus on the slobs who throw their chicken bones in the cup holders and door compartments.
5'10" 175 lbs.
The interior of the Explorers suck and are too cramped.
Chevy designed a 4 wheel drive Police Tahoe after so many Departments started going to the Explorer.
http://m.gmfleet.com/specialty-vehicles/police/chevy-tahoe-ppv.html
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