1967?
What the fuck?
- In October of 2014, department members were notified that lists containing information related to complaints lodged against officers would be released in response to Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests filed by journalists from the Chicago Tribune and the Chicago Sun-Times. At the time of the requests, the time frame for the information sought was January 1, 1967 to present.
The Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) and Chicago Police Sergeants' Association (PBPA) petitioned for and were granted injunctive relief by Judge Flynn in the matter of Fraternal Order of Police, Chicago Lodge No. 7, et al. v. City of Chicago, et al., 2014 CH 17454. In July of this year, the injunction was vacated by the Illinois Appellate Court. On today's date, the Illinois Supreme Court denied the Petition for Leave to Appeal filed by the Fraternal Order of Police, Chicago Lodge #7.
In that all appellate avenues have been exhausted, the City of Chicago will release complaint history information from January 1, 1967 to October 17, 2014. The information to be furnished includes the names of current and former sworn Department members with complaint histories maintained by the Department. The lists also include unit, date of appointment, initial and final complaint category, complaint number, incident date, complaint date, closed date, final finding of the investigation and any action taken.
There is no plausible reason to even have these files exist. By numerous Contracts, they should have been destroyed at various points in the past decades. There isn't a single officer on the job now who was hired in 1967. Many are deceased. We can think of only a single use of these files and that's to paint the Department with the same tar that certain players have been spreading around for the past few years.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
63 Comments:
If the City produces ANYTHING which violates the contract, i.e. records retained in violation of contract, how can this NOT BE A LABOR VIOLATION??????? Let's Strike then since nothing in the agreement REALLY is valid!
What a disgrace. Yeah the City really followed the contractual agreement. Blue Flu. Its time.
In the words of Don O'Neill, "Everything is computerized now-a-days so nothing is ever really deleted." I wonder what kind of beefs O'Neill has which created a pattern of misconduct.
This sounds like a civil lawsuit against the city for releasing records that should have been destroyed by the city. Now that my good name has been tarnished by something that shouldn't exist, I need to be made whole again. WHERE'S MY MONEY?
Can we call it "The blizzard of '67?"
They're going to roast dead guys for "excessive force" used when clearing the sidewalk in front of the Hilton during the Democratic National Convention.
All officers complaint histories? ? Or just some?
It doesn't matter what the final finding was on any of these complaints. The mere allegation is enough for the naive and clueless to jump to conclusions and assume the complaint was true, especially if you're one who has a predisposition of hate towards police.
Are they gonna go after the complainants on all of the complaints in which the officer was exonerated?
Are they gonna make a list of people who have made false allegations against the police?
they should go back to 1867 lol
Yeah, just you wait until the joyful haters use
this information to "prove" family ties to the
"systemic racism of CPD officers."
Your Granddad got complaints.
Your Dad got complaints.
You got complaints.
Your family now has a "documented history" of
racism, maltreatment and misconduct.
Here comes the justification of disqualifying
Police Family members from the job.
>Big-assed crickets regarding multiple generations
of dope-dealing, gang-banging, worthless criminal shithead
families plying their trade in spreading death,
destruction, disease and other associated horrors
within the "Community"<
Slightly O/T but True:
Pinched an old hoodlum back in the early 90's...
He took a look at our name plate, blinked in amazement
and said: "MAAAAN! I ain't seen you in YEARS!"
His criminal history came back and he had been likewise
pinched by the old man a time or three when he worked
out of 23 & Damen and Fillmore starting circa 1962...
Old bastard was PROUD of the fact that he had been
"crookin' for more than forty years..."
The five digit IR# was a clue too.
Never-You-Mind the more than anecdotal to ample
evidence of a culture that not only has failed
to launch but has willfully and intentionally
self-destructed on the launching pads in the
Democratic controlled utopias of this nation.
Flaming debris, blood, shit, brain matter,
teeth, skull fragments and body parts blown
in every which direction for miles.
Local media COULDN'T HAVE come up with this
on their own... This comes straight from a
Rahm Emanuel war-gaming session.
Where else could something this vicious and vile originate?
The media FOIA of Police complaint files going back
a half century?
This shit has NOTHING to do with "oversight and accountability"
and EVERYTHING to with the Progressive take-down
of Chicago Policemen and Policing in Chicago.
No FOIA on the multi-generational fall-out
of Dude being Dude?
Chicago newsies are only brave when it comes to picking
a fight with Policemen... Policemen have compelling rules
to abide by.
"NYAAH! You guys can't hit US back!"
Poking Dude with the same stick they're poking
The Police with?
Sheee-yat...
Dude KNOWS where m/fers live so that ain't
finna hap'n, cap'n!
Chicago newsies are foolish and cruel beyond
measure but they're as tenacious and vicious as the
Chicago Alley Rat when it comes to self preservation.
Everybody KNOWS there is NOTHING constraining Dude from
parking a flaming car on the front steps of a
Chicago newsie's home and laying in wait as everyone
flees out the back door in their night clothes.
Which is why they just WILL NOT
get sideways with Dude by reporting with the same zeal
they reserve for Policemen.
The Police.
Are NOT the problem in Chicago.
Distasteful though it may be, the press has a right to those records. If the City or FOP preserved them all this time, than shame on them. Why were they preserved this long anyway??
"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
Frontier journalist in the John Ford classic THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE.
"When reality becomes fact, sensationalize, exaggerate, and lie."
Current media slime.
Mark Donahue Paul Geiger rich Aguilar and Bill Dougherty as well as Frankie D all bear responsibility for this shit show, it was brought to their attention on more than one occasion, Geiger and the other attorneys that knew or should have known this was a contract provision and when told it violated state law SHOULD HAVE ACTED but they fucked all involved. Maybe Geiger and the other lawyers should be sued
That bullshit FOIA request needs to be hauled off to the U.S. Supreme Court.......absolutely insane what is happening to this country.....
And the city itself should be sued for not complying with its own edicts.....by the PBPA and FOP......1967? Seriously?
This union has absolutely no balls! Flop is useless.
Let's just fucking dig these officers up and drag their skeletons behind a car too. Unbelievable.
Fudge it, Chicago can hang itself with it's on rope when the DOJ uses it as part of thier patterns and practices complaint and every attorney uses those filed against the city for thier payday lawsuits.... Only damn thing this whole department keeps and probably the only thing that's organized around here....
That's a lot of potential unnecessary personal information released to the sharks and potential enemy for what ever they want to do with it, I'm hoping who ever is in charge of this information release is more than just careful...... It's our personal lives and identities at stake for future feedin of some sort....
Why f-------g bother releasing this....I thought we are starting a new slate with this new transparency policing....old crap shouldn't be in the picture any more!
Prince Valium
If they release those files then the paper that this contract we negotiated with the city isnt worth a plug nickel and that fucking spineless piece of shit union leader deangelo should be thrown out.
My dad wasn't even old enough to be on the job in 1967, and I wouldn't even be born for another nine years. Whatever makes the media feel like they're doing their job.
I hear that sun times will being doing an expose on merit hack DC Pena and the "soap" incident one the CR is turned over ...
The more shit you throw, the more sticks to the wall.
If your info shows up on that list, sue the city for breach of contract.
Can't they just shred them?
Hillary did,with the blessing of the DOJ.
thank God. I have a bad one from New Years Eve, but that was 1966
I'll say this, it is interesting comparing my fathers beefs to mine. I guess that the apple really doesn't fall far from the tree.
What is the justification for going back to 1967? Anything to do with the '68 convention?
A witch hunt at its finest. Morons.
--No Cop Chere
Real Criminals,have their records expunged.
Really sad you do not have the same rights as a 20 year Felon !
Well the U.S. attorney fardon said the other day he and his team were going through many things on Cpd guess they will be bringing in archeologists to help sort with the 50 year old paperwork? What another slap in the face to coppers, and if any coppers today are busting their asses working for the gold star idiots your totally insane. You will be the next contestant on that 24/7 news show "State your assets and liabilities" as you sit in federal court! the thugs and scum will be watching as your hard earned money-home and everything is removed, next the bonus you will be sent to prison. Don't believe it? College educated coppers should be smarter but obviously not to smart! Blue lights sirens screaming for what? Myself only for a 10-1 or coppers family calling for service everything else follow the orders obey the law, no street stops, no arrests without signed complaints! Blame obama and the minions all the way down the line! To bad we are not able to use the stupid "I don't know" clinton defense then everyone gets immunity and you walk freely!
But on another note rahm wants to buy 600 new squads to use because of his hiring of 1,000 coppers ahh mayor Pinocchio is that additional after you replace the over 2,000 short or is that just funnin for the uneducated?
I'm retired now. Why should a bunch of old beefs even be available? None of them were worth the paper they were printed on, and obviously not enough to fire me over. Our contract stated they were supposed to be destroyed after two years. I'll bet that most of the alcohol fueled, drug addled complainants are dead by their own lifestyle.
Tell me FOP...why is my name now in a searchable database as a named offender?
Fuckin Russians again
If they were hired in 1967 they would now be in their late 60's. I don't think that means many are deceased. Let's hope the life span is longer than that.
Most if not all of the complainants are probably dead by now also. now what?
Pull a Hillary. Destroy destroy destroy now. Ignore subpoenas even if given immunity.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Distasteful though it may be, the press has a right to those records. If the City or FOP preserved them all this time, than shame on them. Why were they preserved this long anyway??
9/29/2016 01:33:00 AM
Because the City never destroys anything except when having to do with the pols. Then there is not a shred of evidence to view. I'm sure the pols are now employing BleachBit when deleting their emails and other electronic records. But police disciplinary records that were suppose to be destroyed after X years? Not in a heartbeat.
The unions hired some great lobbyists to curtail the FOIA
/sarcasm off
Who is responsible for releasing the Complainants Criminal History relevant to their Complaint Register?
Hmmmm?
Hey SunTimes - Tribune...check the facts and credibility of the complaint and not the statistics.
Oh wait, that's not politically correct.
Bring it on!! When cops ruled the streets and did their job
Anonymous Anonymous said...
In the words of Don O'Neill, "Everything is computerized now-a-days so nothing is ever really deleted." I wonder what kind of beefs O'Neill has which created a pattern of misconduct.
9/29/2016 12:25:00 AM
Maybe the City should have hired Hillary's IT guy. He did his job well. The Feds "claim" they could not recover the deleted e-mails.
(OT) another find by treasure hunting rahm 2.3 billion found for another pet project wonder how much gets rebated to elected Manila fat envelope style?:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-cta-red-line-extension-20160929-story.html
Nothing bring more of the shitshow downtown!
This is going on your permanent record!!
S T A Y F E T A L !
When I turn in my 5th and last parker for vri I see many many many parkers movers and anovs in there. Every time. Wtf? Who is doing all of this activity and why? Get your vri activity and relax. Really people enough is enough. The feds, state, county and our own city hates us. Getting more activity changes nothing especially not for the better.
S T A Y F E T A L !
Can They Investigate A Complaint, That Dated ? My Guess Is They Will Have College Law Students, Looking Through These Complaints. If They Come Across One,They Feel Is "Juicy" Enough, They Will Try To "Cold Case It". I Don't Know. What Do You Folks Think ? Statute of Limitations ?
So the City does not abide by the contract?
So can we go on strike?
Can we live outside the City?
Can we buy and run a bar?
Can i not pay parking tickets?
Is the FOP Lodge 7 seeking any compensation for the city not abiding by a legal contract? Or is DEAN doing his famous I don't want to cause waves because it is easier to deal with happy City lawyers.
I know Dean has trouble grasping the big picture and I really hope some new blood runs for those nifty FOP board spots!
Boy, they sure are trying to blemish the image of the CPD.
My Dad was dick in '67, from what I remember there weren't a lot of complaints back then. Unless you had some clout, nobody gave a crap that you got your feelings hurt, (or other sundry injuries). And that went for all colors of people.
Anonymous said...
they should go back to 1867 lol
9/29/2016 12:56:00 AM
Give them time!
Anonymous said...
I hear that sun times will being doing an expose on merit hack DC Pena and the "soap" incident one the CR is turned over ...
9/29/2016 06:25:00 AM
I used to leave bars of soap on her car!
I don't know why anything anymore is labeled "unfucking believable".
At the end of your shift today, lock the doors, turn out the lights and go home and watch the news. I don't think there's a cop in Chicago that would see anything on the news un-fucking believable".
(Except maybe news reporters screaming for police protection.)
J.J.
If they were hired in 1967 they would now be in their late 60's. I don't think that means many are deceased. Let's hope the life span is longer than that.
Not quite true. You weren't eligible to take the test until you were 21. Took long time to post the test and then years to be taken off the test so the average age of being hired would be around 25. Not to many guys took the test at 21
That plus being in the academy for 26 weeks and the year probation where j imagine most guys didn't get many CR's
My point is 1967 is almost 50 years ago so the majority of those po' s would be in their mid 70's
Plus during that era, almost all patrol po's rotated shifts every 28 days. That can take a toll on your health. Just sayin
Look no further than to who you keep electing, decade after decade, for the reason everything is so fucked up. It is all fucked up exactly because they want it that way. Remember the saying, if you keep doing things the same way, over and over, and expect different results, that is the devinition of, Insanity.
In '67 one had to call PO 5-1313... "My name is Maurice and I want to file complaint against the flatfoot who just thumped my melon".
Surely, they have all those records in a box somewhere under the concrete at 1111 S. State.
Rahm ordered the costly and immediate excavation yesterday. The instigator may have some unfounded CR's from his shirtless protester days he wants re-opened.
When was the last time you seen a peaceful protestor that was shirtless?
Maybe in Charlotte NC?
• Check out the Reader Archives for "Rahm hates Illinois Nazis!".
Yeah let's take them to court. Maybe we can ask for a jury trial.
Anonymous said...
I hear that sun times will being doing an expose on merit hack DC Pena and the "soap" incident one the CR is turned over ...
9/29/2016 06:25:00 AM
I used to leave bars of soap on her car!
9/29/2016 04:04:00 PM
What, doesn't she bathe?
Anonymous said...
If they were hired in 1967 they would now be in their late 60's. I don't think that means many are deceased. Let's hope the life span is longer than that.
9/29/2016 10:32:00 AM
I graduated grade school in 1967 and I am 63 years old. I couldn't have joined the police force for another nine years.
So the minimum age these guys would be is 72 and many are a lot older. Why should they have this kind of grief and stress put on them now?!?!
Not quite true. You weren't eligible to take the test until you were 21. Took long time to post the test and then years to be taken off the test so the average age of being hired would be around 25. Not to many guys took the test at 21
That plus being in the academy for 26 weeks and the year probation where j imagine most guys didn't get many CR's
My point is 1967 is almost 50 years ago so the majority of those po' s would be in their mid 70's
Plus during that era, almost all patrol po's rotated shifts every 28 days. That can take a toll on your health. Just sayin
9/29/2016 06:08:00 PM
You really do not speak f rom experience, do you. I came home from the Army in March 1968, took the written exam and physical with weeks and was hired and started the academy in August '68. There were starting a class of 34 every two weeks. The academy was only 12 weeks back then and I believe stayed that way for a few more years. My class, with the exception of three, were all veterans and no older then 25, I was 21.
Sorry bottom line clear violation of contract ect ect ect . If anybody really cared about being shat upon. Then I guess all that other "stuff" is out to like that "no strike" thingy
So the City does not abide by the contract?
So can we go on strike?
Can we live outside the City?
Can we buy and run a bar?
Can i not pay parking tickets?
Is the FOP Lodge 7 seeking any compensation for the city not abiding by a legal contract? Or is DEAN doing his famous I don't want to cause waves because it is easier to deal with happy City lawyers.
I know Dean has trouble grasping the big picture and I really hope some new blood runs for those nifty FOP board spots!
Well ?????
My Dad came on in 1961 and retired in 1998.
WTF are they going to accomplish by publishing any CR#'S he may have had???
I think they should also release all criminal investigations of alderthieves since 1967
Anonymous said...
My Dad came on in 1961 and retired in 1998.
WTF are they going to accomplish by publishing any CR#'S he may have had???
9/30/2016 08:05:00 PM
By drawing a "connection" to YOU and whatever beefs
you've gotten...
"If we can destroy the familial ties that 'foster'
Police Misconduct, we can CHANGE the culture of CPD
and make it more responsive to the 'community.'"
...Get it?
Got it?
Good!
Anonymous said...
I think they should also release all criminal investigations of alderthieves since 1967
9/30/2016 08:07:00 PM
It's not about THEM, Office...
They paid for their immunity and impunity.
It's all about driving you and yours into a corner.
Why is it that U.S. Federal Agents were never Indicted for the Torture and Murder of several Alleged Terror Suspects? Why has the Corrupt Department of Justice Indicted an Ex Joliet police officer for Civil Rights Violations, 4 Years after he was Acquitted in State Court by a Jury of 12?
The United States Supreme Court has to put an end to the Malicious Prosecution of police officers by the Corrupt Department of Justice!
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