Procedure!
You want to know where they're going to hang coppers with cameras? We're seeing it in the shooting of the car thief who tried to kill numerous officers with a stolen car on the south side....now we're seeing it in Charlotte:
- Crucial evidence in the police shooting death of Keith Scott is not available because one of the officers failed to activate his body camera as soon as he responded to the encounter, in violation of department policy.
The department released two videos late Saturday after four days of sometimes violent protests here over the death of Scott, who police said had a gun. Neither video is conclusive on that question.
[...]
But none of those moments in the first 30 seconds of the bodycam video have audio. All are silent, denying investigators and the public key details of what happened immediately prior to the shooting Sept. 20. That indicates the officer, who has not been identified, did not turn on the camera until after the shooting, when audio begins.
This is a dynamic situation unfolding in mere seconds and tenths of seconds. Nevermind that the police recovered a gun with the offender's fingerprints and DNA on the weapon. Nevermind that the gun was cocked and the safety was off. Pay no attention to the empty ankle holster visible on the video and the continuous failure to obey lawful orders shouted five, eight, ten times. And the outstanding warrants, felony record, diminished mental capacity of the offender, all of which preclude him from even owning a gun.
No, the media is obsessed with "the camera wasn't on immediately so the police must have done something wrong or hidden something or whatever.
Your deviance from procedural guidelines will be what the media, the activists, politicians, etc judge the entire incident on, regardless of the legal outcome or justification. Guidelines overlooked in the tenth-of-a-second it takes to notice an empty holster, an arm held at the side concealing a possible weapon, the disregarding of verbal direction given while you are un-holstering your sidearm in the completely reasonable assumption that your life, your partner's life and the lives of innocent civilians may be at immediate risk.....you forgot to turn on a camera, ergo, you must be guilty of something....oh yeah - "procedure."
This after everything that went through your head was found to be completely and utterly, 100% true.
No, the media is obsessed with "the camera wasn't on immediately so the police must have done something wrong or hidden something or whatever.
Your deviance from procedural guidelines will be what the media, the activists, politicians, etc judge the entire incident on, regardless of the legal outcome or justification. Guidelines overlooked in the tenth-of-a-second it takes to notice an empty holster, an arm held at the side concealing a possible weapon, the disregarding of verbal direction given while you are un-holstering your sidearm in the completely reasonable assumption that your life, your partner's life and the lives of innocent civilians may be at immediate risk.....you forgot to turn on a camera, ergo, you must be guilty of something....oh yeah - "procedure."
This after everything that went through your head was found to be completely and utterly, 100% true.
Labels: un-fucking-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
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New FOP procedure don't so shit and write paper. At least the stats won't lie when the city comes crawling back
If you're being proactive and doing anything beyond the minimum in this day and age, you're an imbecile.
Hilary is the next President.
I bet my career
In a truly shameful debate performance, Hillary Clinton threw the police under the bus (again) tonight while spouting BLM talking points about the police shooting in Charlotte.
Not a word about the justifiable shooting or the deceased's long history of felonious criminal behavior and violence. Clinton's most temperate remarks promoted moral equivalency.
Of course, Lester Holt let her get away with it. He seemed to believe that his role as debate moderator was to protect Clinton all night long. Holt never challenged her or pressed her on any subject during the televised debate.
You have white shirts that still don't fully comprehend ISRs and body cameras, but they're gonna judge you after the fact and hang you out to dry
Another false narrative that the media and haters want to spin. Plenty of evidence that some just ignore. The media knows it but rarely presents it. The media loves disorder. It keeps them employed. In the video It took the police approx. 30 to 40 seconds to shoot the offender. All the while giving repeated verbal direction and observing him with a gun. What fools actually believe that during that time this guy was only holding a "book" and the police shot him anyway and then planted a gun and holster with his finger prints on it too. All the while knowing that they're being recorded by car and body cams and the offender's wife. The whole thing is sick. Think people. Bad guys do exist.
The liberals would have us use a Taser or better yet hide behind on object and talk the POS into dropping the firearm, not considering that while words to disarm are uttered the POS can fire off rounds at the police or citizens injuring or killing same. To hell with everyone else's safety as long as the POS is not harmed.
It has been the department's method for decades to check if a cop followed protocol and if not to hammer the cop for failing to do so; especially when there is a heater case. Yeah you were justified in shooting the subject but.........fill in the failure to follow protocol.
Fuck with the in-car camera and the department screws you. Fuck with the body cam and the department screws you. Different times boys and girls, the writing is on the wall and cops and supervisors have been on the receiving end of failing to follow protocol. With all this transparency and accountability for the public to feed on the department will not look the other way when breaking protocol.
Plus the gun in question was stolen and the thief has admitted that he sold the gun to the dead asshole.
"The Cops are trying to hide something
by not turning their cameras on.
We will burn them at the stake
as a message to the others
that violating Camera Procedure
won't be tolerated!"
As a survivor of armed confrontations with
BEE-AY-DEE peoples and folkses with guns,
we can say that the VERY LAST THING on a
Policeman's mind is turning on a fucking
camera.
You're eyeball to eyeball with a hard-head,
non-compliant/non-responsive, mind-locked,
born-to-die M/Fer who has a gun and every
free swinging dick and dangling tit with
an opinion is in an uproar because The Police
very rightfully and lawfully shot the shit
out of him and the public wants to lynch
the involved Officer for NOT turning his
camera on?
We know the drill...
M/Fer with a gun in his hands and his eyes
are spinning like a slot machine while he
calculates whether he has a win or not.
SPIIINNN!
>Lemon - Lemon - Lemon<
DING!
Go home to your families and loved ones
in one piece no matter WHAT!
The joyful haters lust for YOUR BLOOD
to be spilled.
Don't give them the satisfaction.
There ARE no worthwhile second place prizes
in Gunfighting! ESPECIALLY for Policemen!
"The Officer showed admirable restraint,"
is the stuff of obituaries...
"Warrior Cop Culture fosters a
highly combative mindset."
As well it should.
Vigilance, aggression, assertiveness
and a healthy mistrust of people
SAVES the lives of Policemen.
There is no obligation to play nice
on these mean, hateful and unforgiving streets.
Glad The Police are ok.
Fiddling with that damned body camera WILL
get Policemen killed.
Just more progressive feel-goodery and bullshit
being overwritten onto The Police hard drive.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Keith Scott WAS carrying a stolen gun, police say – and his wife filed for a restraining order against him saying he was armed, violent and had threatened to kill her
* Keith Scott's gun had been reported stolen, authorities said on Monday
* A breaking and entering suspect told officials he had sold him the gun
* His wife Rakeyia got a restraining order in October last year, records show
* She wrote: 'He carries a 9mm black' and said he had hit her and a child
* Scott, 43, was shot and killed Tuesday after a confrontation with Charlotte, North Carolina police
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3808803/Keith-Scott-carrying-stolen-gun-police-say-wife-filed-restraining-order-against-saying-armed-violent-threatened-kill-her.html
This whole thing is unraveling like an old sock once the dog gets hold of one end and you're pulling on the other for fun.
Further info any minute.
Oh. The protests will continue.
OT:To all of those potential new hire police Rahm is talking about
Please tell me if I am reading this wrong.
According to the City's website, the starting salary for new Police Officers is ~$47K a year. Goes to about $60K after about a year or so.
According to TrueNewsUSA, the premiums for the 2 BC/BS health plans being offered for 2017 are, for a single person with no dependents are $1295/month ($15,540 /yr).or $1,466/month ($17,600/yr). Or About 1/3 of your pay.
If you have a wife and a child the premiums are $3,198 or $3,266. $38,376 or $39,192 a year.
If these numbers are correct, you new police will be working for about $4.25 an hour.
Plus you will also have to drop about $5K on all the nonsense they require you to have. In addition to a City residence.
I admit that these numbers may be wrong and things can change. But look into it.
Drive with blinders on. Dont stop anyone for anything! If responding to anything short of a report call use the siren the last couple of blocks so all the scum have plenty of warning to run. If you are a detective or specialized unit ONLY look for your suspect and no one else. Then consider somewhere else to work and certainly do not encourage anyone to join.
OT: I was out dining on Lagrange road in Lagrange. Upon going home I witnessed 4 squad cars flying in the direction. Apparently someone was selling illegal drugs to a suburban youth. For some weed charge?? I don't give a rats tail about a PCS anymore. I guess I'm being "fetal" but at this point I quit.
You must destroy the old system before the people will accept the new one .
What do you not understand ?
better have the cameras rolling all the time then. invade everyone's privacy, so we can cover every criminal
You can thank odumbo for his anti-police rhetoric the past 7+ years. He's no better than the "Make Believe" reverends who use these incidents for their personal gain. 116 days left of the obama error !
I want to thank Dean "again". The camera's are "a good thing".
Stay Fetal
Anonymous said...
Another false narrative that the media and haters want to spin. Plenty of evidence that some just ignore. The media knows it but rarely presents it. The media loves disorder. It keeps them employed. In the video It took the police approx. 30 to 40 seconds to shoot the offender. All the while giving repeated verbal direction and observing him with a gun. What fools actually believe that during that time this guy was only holding a "book" and the police shot him anyway and then planted a gun and holster with his finger prints on it too. All the while knowing that they're being recorded by car and body cams and the offender's wife. The whole thing is sick. Think people. Bad guys do exist.
9/27/2016 01:01:00 AM
Exactly! The cops had this all planed out right? They said "let's kill a random guy holding a book in broad daylight while we're being filmed just so we can get a little excitement in our lives. Let's yell drop the gun a few times just to make it look good too. Hey now we can use that drop gun and holster also" but don't forget to put the offenders DNA and finger prints on it while we're being recorded.
Who in their right mind would take this job? I'm at 376 due to an injury and there is a civilian report writer getting ready to come on and you just can't talk sense to this kid. God help him and others with the mindset to Co. Each on CPD.
A new world order coming guys. Check out Mark Dice and Colin Flaherty on YouTube.
Hilary is the next President.
I bet my career
9/27/2016 12:28:00 AM
You sound like the French you cheese eating surrender monkey. Keep up with the defeatist attitude and you will certainly be right.
No election has been more important. You only have to look at the healthcare system to see evidence of that. It is a mess. It was not perfect, but the Democrats stepped in and destroyed it. Your insurance that you worked for has turned into the biggest expense you will ever have now. All so the Democrats can feel good about insuring people that do not want to work.
Hillary is the most flawed and corrupt person to ever run for President. The fact that she is still in the running proves how broken and complacent this Country has become. We the people, the taxpayers and the workers have been asleep at the wheel. We cannot allow this disaster to become the next President.
Again, this is why I plan to do nothing but jerk off in the (closed-no manpower) lock up for my last 2 years.
I hope I remember to turn it OFF!
Fuck you, Emanuel.
Subsidize my healthcare and I'll leave today, never to darken the door of a fuckin' police station again.
Second guessing Assholes.
BCP opines --
"Vigilance, aggression, assertiveness
and a healthy mistrust of people
SAVES the lives of Policemen."
9/27/2016 01:10:00 AM
No, no. Obsolete model.
Even wildlife is not safe anymore. Pull the teeth, de-claw anything that might be able to take care of itself -- or at least tell it to be quiet and throw a sheet over it to hide it from view.
University of Kansas housing director tells RA not to include gorilla picture in jungle-theme dorm decoration because it's 'triggering' and a 'very masculine image'
* Dale Morrow sent the RA an email saying the gorilla was not 'inclusive'
* The KU complex director added that it was surrounded by 'stereotypes'
* He asked the RA to choose a 'different theme animal' for the floor
* KU officials said Morrow 'does not speak for the housing department' and that they found the gorilla image to be 'reasonable'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3808574/University-Kansas-housing-director-tells-RA-not-include-triggering-gorilla-picture-dorm.html
"...the premiums for the 2 BC/BS health plans being offered for 2017 are, for a single person with no dependents are $1295/month ($15,540 /yr).or $1,466/month ($17,600/yr). Or About 1/3 of your pay.
"If you have a wife and a child the premiums are $3,198 or $3,266. $38,376 or $39,192 a year."
9/27/2016 01:41:00 AM
See how "managed care" "controlled costs?"
The "case managers" and "wellness coordinators" and all the other superfluous, uninvited people who swarm your hospital room today have to be paid, you know...
I brought this point up and was ridiculed because "the camera is always recording" they said. The point I brought up is now fucking people over.
If you go on Fr. Faker's facebook page, people are claiming it was a drop gun . Funny how the anti-police crowd comes out of the woodwork on just about every police involved shooting and after seeing a snippet of video makes their judgement that the police are guilty of a crime. No presumption of innocence ever given to the police, only the person shot by the police. The liberal, progressive crowd is very unhappy with the anti-crime speech and plan of the mayor. They want less police in their neighborhoods, not more. They want jobs and more social services. I can see the job angle, but less police officers? I say give it to them.
if you don't do everything right you do everything wrong
Anonymous Anonymous said...
In a truly shameful debate performance, Hillary Clinton threw the police under the bus (again) tonight while spouting BLM talking points about the police shooting in Charlotte.
Not a word about the justifiable shooting or the deceased's long history of felonious criminal behavior and violence. Clinton's most temperate remarks promoted moral equivalency.
Of course, Lester Holt let her get away with it. He seemed to believe that his role as debate moderator was to protect Clinton all night long. Holt never challenged her or pressed her on any subject during the televised debate.
9/27/2016 12:29:00 AM
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ANd she said something along the lines of "what a black gets prison for a white does not"
I don;t think so Hillary. THe homicide clearance rate is CHicago is what 30% (where the offender actually goes to prison) So who the hell is getting away with murder in Chicago? No mention of that? Is it the Swedes?
blacks get away with plenty
COOK COUNTY COOKS ARE NOT any better. Have you noticed if you don't have video then the incident never happened. Unfortunately, it doesn't even matter if you have footage. These judges do what ever they want regardless of law.
Any truth to the rumor that the detective exam results will be released today?
Hilary is the next President.
I bet my career
9/27/2016 12:28:00 AM
Bad bet. But don't worry. Once you clean out your locker, you can always get a job building the wall that President Trump said he'll build.
If Hilllary wins we are doomed and it will get WORSE.
the point is that They will find or make something up to charge you with. Hail Hillary!
CHP gets attacked chased off by violent drag race crowd
http://www.policeone.com/Officer-Safety/articles/224831006-Video-Crowd-attacks-CHP-officer-sitting-in-vehicle/
Anonymous said...
You have white shirts that still don't fully comprehend ISRs and body cameras, but they're gonna judge you after the fact and hang you out to dry
9/27/2016 12:32:00 AM
they have the white shirt, you do not. they are qualifiably smarter than you. maybe it is you that does not comprehend ISRs?
What was the name of the book he was readin
Dash Cams, Body Cams the individual PO will have absolutely no credibility, everything will rely on cameras. Might as well put robots out there. ♠️
Why in the hell aren't our union leaders, both local and national, screaming these same words everyday?
So one officer didn't turn his body-camera on, whoopee. It's evident from the Dash Cam video what went down, to wit: Once again a black felon with a gun and drugs refused to obey a lawful police order.
Jezus H!...the cops only yelled DROP THE GUN about ten times. Is there some ghetto rule that it takes 15 Lawful Police Commands before you comply? Is everyone in the 'community' a certified MORON, clueless to what's happened in the news to 'Homies With Guns Behaving Badly'. One would think, or hope, that 'the family' of these Felons would make damn sure their *loved one* isn't illegally packing heat 'cause they know it will eventually end in very bad way.
In addition, Scott not only does not drop the gun, he's backing away in a manner that to me seems suspicious and threatening -- like he's getting ready to fire(1). Not that it means anything but I would have shot too.
ps: I sure hope that Blunt he was smoking was worth it. And who says marijuana won't kill you. (LOL)
1) -- I saw a video in the news a week or so ago where a gangbanger backs away just before shooting, and then taking off while still shooting 'backwards' at his intended victim.
How come the UK newspapers have the truth but the US ones don't. (referring to the article linked in the comment at 9/27/2016 01:23:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Hilary is the next President.
I bet my career
9/27/2016 12:28:00 AM
Well, if she gets in, your career is over, anyway.
You will be a highly overpaid report-taker and nothing more.
FOP demand a camera for every police officer , office workers at headquarters , mayors body guard detail , command staff .
Cameras should be on at roll call , let us see what training , inspections and support the officers receive at roll call .
I have observed desk officer swearing unauthorized jewelry , beards , baseball shirts , hoodies , dreadlocks and pony tails .
All the command staff worry about is bs when an officer has to protect each other .
Responding to a call of a man with a gun , park a block away , make sure uniform is in order , turn camera on and record everything while walking to the call . Subject still there , be ready .
For my protection, I wear my personally owned concealed carry body cam that non-stop loop records date/time stamped video and audio. No lights or audio to indicate that it's recording. Haptic feedback lets me know it's recording and when I choose to Write Protect "important" record files for fast easy retrieval then retention on my personal PC. No one can tell when I wear it. A single Hot Swap battery is good for ten hours. Video record quality is better than the latest major police body-cam product offerings. My electronic engineer buddy put it together for me.
here is another procedure looks like people are finally getting on board the Trump train:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3809204/Most-snap-polls-Trump-winning-debate-landslide.html
The only hope for policing, and this countries future is Trump! If hillary gets that office it will influence the next 60 years for your kids and your kids children with the supreme court justice picks! This country is already over run with illegal invaders and criminals. Trump is pro-police-law and order-military-borders-America USA first. while hillary is endorsed by the black lies murder crew, trump is endorsed by National FOP, Border patrol,ICE, and many up to 200+ military generals! Trump at the debates was ready to talk about the crimes with women that her husband billy has engaged in, but he held back so far.
Where's the FOP lawyers? The game has changed, prosecutors are using our administrative statements against us to charge us with criminal charges. The officers on the McDonald shooting all gave administrative statements and are now being used against them to charge them all criminally.
With the inception of dash cam video and body worn videos there is no need for officers to give administrative statements regarding an incident. The videos speak for themselves, there is no needs for officers to give statements or break down the video footage. THE VIDEO SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. Now if COPA,CCSA, or an Exempt member after reviewing the video believe a criminal act was committed they should be obligated to inform the officers involved that they are now conducting a criminal investigation and advised all officers involved of their Miranda Warnings so they don't self incrimate themselves. If after reviewing the video they determine that they see anything that rises to the level of a criminal act but still want an administrative statement, they should put in writing that the officer is not under a criminal investigation , offer the officer immunity, and any statement given by the officer cannot be used against the officer in any criminal proceeding.
In today's climate any officer involved in a OIS should exercise their 4th amendment right and give no statements without consulting their lawyer.
We don't get to use the Rahm Defense of "I don't know, I don't recall". We are not afforded the luxury of politicians immunity to investigation.
Monitor the radio calls, respond to your assignments and record the incidents.
Follow this simple procedural precept and your remaining CPD years with be not ill spent.
(Get in 2 personals and lunch too)
Better turn the damn thing on every time you step out of the car...just to be safe.
And with all of the shouts for the suspect to 'put the gun down' there was time to turn the damn thing on. Just saying. Not that it's a bad shoot, but why give the public, the media and the administration of your agency any room to hang you with?
CONGRATS to Donald Trump! Great debate yesterday. Make America great again!
Missing the point here. The question isn't why didn't he turn the camera on, it's why wasn't it on already? Make the camera your friend. Make it an asset instead of a liability. You already know most of the media are assholes. They'll jump on every incident without video like a chicken on a June bug. Why keep feeding these assholes?
Me and my partner record each other eating dinner. I always chew with my mouth open. Now if the air is clear? Pull my finger...
I work midnights in 007. Ranger all the way. I know times are hard, but when the going gets tough, the tough get going! 4 pistols off the street last week
The end result will be continuously running audio and video that the officers will not control.
I've heard that our body cam people are 30,000 videos behind on viewing.
That's right their intent and goal is to view every recorded video.
You know damn well they're going to be looking for nit picky stuff to jam coppers up for...... but remember the department is telling you that the cameras are here to help you!
I'll give you another little tidbit about burning cops for procedures. The city hosted some ex California highway patrol nut that wants all officers who don't wear seat belts fired. Anne Kirkpatrick expolice chief in Spokane, Washington lit up like a light bulb over the statement.
"I saw a video in the news a week or so ago where a gangbanger backs away just before shooting, and then taking off while still shooting 'backwards' at his intended victim."
9/27/2016 10:09:00 AM
Yes, and Jack Dunphy mentions in his excellent article SCC linked to about the police training videos derived from dashcam footage of at least two officers murdered on stops, offender went away from his vehicle at first and then dived back in and came out with a shotgun and that was it.
Always a dangerous situation. You are traveling into unknown territory...nothing further.
God bless all here. Stay safe.
Gary says:Ex-top cop: I'm not Trump's 'top police' source
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chicagoinc/ct-garry-mccarthy-donald-trump-0928-chicago-inc-20160927-story.html
During his speech last week, McCarthy had also thrown a few jabs at a federal probe of the city's Police Department, adding, "Good idea Garry, go after the Department of Justice — what are they gonna do, go after me for having top-secret information on my server?"
Making a face of mock apology after the crowd again gasped, he added, "I had to!"
Sounds like gary is getting aggravated if he was/is trumps source so what it is the truth and as mom used to say "the truth hurts sometimes" guess the elected here have no idea what "truth" is like!
Anonymous said...
I work midnights in 007. Ranger all the way. I know times are hard, but when the going gets tough, the tough get going! 4 pistols off the street last week
9/27/2016 02:13:00 PM
I worked a few years in 007, one of the most corrupt districts in the city, from the politicians, to the wanna-be politicians to the police commanders to the watch commanders to the tact team. Keep going Ranger and you might be in a whole lot of trouble. For one it is pretty easy to get hurt or killed and the city will not do much for you, so be careful. But, if you arrest the wrong connected person, they will go after you. I have seen felons released from the station by the watch commander just as felony charges were to be approved. Stay fetal if you like your job.
As a retired California Highway Patrol Sgt. I saw the comment about an ex CHP nut wanting officers fired for not wearing a seatbelt. Never heard of that. Can someone provide some facts? Not saying it didn't happen or we don't have some nut jobs but the whole thing sounds passing strange.
I've never heard of any action being taken against a CHP Officer for not wearing a seat belt , but our people are smart enough and experienced enough to make them a matter of habit . And yes ,I know if you are rolling into a dangerous situation ( we have those in California too) it's best to flip it off.
Has nothing to do with the officer fabricating some bullshit,"He shot at us right"? and worrying about being put on desk duty pending the investigation. Talk about callous disregard for human life. They hung themselves, good riddance.
Anonymous said...
CHP gets attacked chased off by violent drag race crowd
http://www.policeone.com/Officer-Safety/articles/224831006-Video-Crowd-attacks-CHP-officer-sitting-in-vehicle/
9/27/2016 09:07:00 AM
Sure looks like bunch of illegal invaders, did he/she call for help? $12,000 damage on squad let the taxpayers pay more, bet the next copper that runs into these pos thugs will have serious issues! when you let them attack us freely and this happens turn in your badge! We all know times are bad the democrats especially barry have ruined "law and order" ridiculous what is going on! Look at all the blood, innocent being gunned down everyday in chiraq, then we have this stand up guy friend of man gunned down by millennium park calling for boycott of chicago:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-millennium-park-fatal-shooting-20160927-story.html
the blacks are talking about with holding "black dollars" in many areas, can you imagine "white dollars" being withheld? lets practice! The scumbag nfl which cannot even stand to honor our country don't buy tickets, no sportswear, no going to bloody Chicago downtown for anything, you risk you life daily coming here.
Was in New York recently times square area felt safe, coppers every other block ready to take action to stop "thuglife" go downtown Chicago you can't find a copper anywhere, not coppers fault that is the fault of the "rahm crew" as our mayor is busy doing juvenile things flying paper airplanes innocent people are being shot down everywhere! But then again who cannot protect his family, his own neighborhood what else can you expect? the marchers should be marching on city hall, rahms home, the alderman's office everyday every hour, but no with the 24/7 dishonest media attacking police for everything they do and never getting on the real criminals the politicians that let this city go to total shit!
The wife shouted 10 times Keith Dont Do It, Keith,Kieth,.........
Guessing he was going to throw the book at the police !
I work midnights in 007. Ranger all the way. I know times are hard, but when the going gets tough, the tough get going! 4 pistols off the street last week
9/27/2016 02:13:00 PM
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I've warned numerous officers I trained over the years about this same thing.
Department policies and regulations ARE NOT DESIGNED to protect the officer.
Department policies and regulations ARE DESIGNED to screw over the troops.
You know the drill: "failed to follow policy", "in violation of department regulations", etc.
LEARN the rules so YOU can USE them AGAINST the PD.
Retired Ol' Sixgun Sarge
OT - Det. Test results are im
BREAKING --
Reports that Charlotte PD HQ evacuated due to "suspicious package" in mailroom. Bomb squad on scene.
I'll give you another little tidbit about burning cops for procedures. The city hosted some ex California highway patrol nut that wants all officers who don't wear seat belts fired. Anne Kirkpatrick expolice chief in Spokane, Washington lit up like a light bulb over the statement.
9/27/2016 02:55:00 PM
I'll give you a tidbit. Wear your fucking seatbelt, idiot. It not only protects you in the event of a crash, but it helps keep you firmly planted in that driver's seat to help you maintain control of the vehicle, especially during cornering, high-speed maneuvers, and quick reactions to avoid unforeseen obstacles, such as other drivers. If you're relying on your ass muscles or your arms to keep you planted, think of what happens when those arms are holding onto the thing responsible for steering the vehicle. You can't use a steering wheel as support and to control the vehicle at the same time when making evasive maneuvers. It's simple physics. This is even more important at highway speeds.
Now let's address the possible reasons why you wouldn't wear a seatbelt:
It's uncomfortable? So is getting hit in the face and chest with an airbag. So is smacking your head into various parts of your vehicle. So is being ejected from the vehicle and tumbling across the pavement. Despite the few stories I'm sure you'd mention of someone miraculously surviving some crash while not wearing a seatbelt, it's much more likely that you'll survive and be injured less if you wear a seatbelt.
It might get stuck on your star, name tag, body camera, vest, gun, holster, radio, etc., and you'll be trapped in the car when someone starts shooting at you? Sure, that could happen. You know what's extremely more likely to happen? A car crash. Most cops are seriously injured or killed in car crashes. Those killed by gunfire aren't killed because their seatbelt trapped them in their car. Those shot while sitting in their car have typically been ambushed, and the seatbelt didn't make a damn bit of difference.
Seatbelts can save your life and the lives of others because they allow you to better control your vehicle. Take your car out to an empty parking lot and test it out. Take a few sharp turns and do a few emergency lane changes with no seatbelt on. See how your body reacts. See how the car reacts. Then try it with a seatbelt on. I guarantee you'll have better control over yourself and the car while wearing the seatbelt.
In short, whatever reason you've chosen to not wear a seatbelt is ridiculous, and most likely just an excuse because you want to be more comfortable. I'm not saying anyone should be fired for not wearing a seatbelt, but I have no problem with them being disciplined, including suspension. It's just a careless decision with no realistic justification. Wear the fucking seatbelt.
I work midnights in 007. Ranger all the way. I know times are hard, but when the going gets tough, the tough get going! 4 pistols off the street last week
9/27/2016 02:13:00 PM
Great job, ranger. Be sure to update us on the outcome of the cases against your arrestees. Be sure to share their lengthy sentences with us. Be sure to tell us when you get sued because "I didn't have no gun on me." Before any of that, share the details of how you came across these guns. Tell us how he was running away from an anonymous person with a gun call while "holding his side." Tell us how you had reasonable, articulable, suspicion for stopping the guys with the guns. Tell us all about your airtight case that will surely result in a conviction and lengthy sentence in our wonderful Cook County Court system. Tell us how lucky you were that the guy you got with the gun didn't decide to do something that made you shoot him, in the back or otherwise. Tell us how you're different and everything would be fine for you if you got into a shooting. You're a ranger after all. You're the elite, the untouchable, the real police.
It's just not worth it. Let them have their guns and let them shoot each other.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Hilary is the next President.
I bet my career
9/27/2016 12:28:00 AM
Well, if she gets in, your career is over, anyway.
You will be a highly overpaid report-taker and nothing more.
9/27/2016 10:45:00 AM
Career already is over, and we already are report takers, I won't go as far as saying we are overpaid though, because they can't pay us enough.
But if she devil gets in, we will be looking at a strong possibility of being political prisoners as enemies of the state. These people mean business, and this is their final push for bringing down America and instituting a one world government.
For my protection, I wear my personally owned concealed carry body cam that non-stop loop records date/time stamped video and audio. No lights or audio to indicate that it's recording. Haptic feedback lets me know it's recording and when I choose to Write Protect "important" record files for fast easy retrieval then retention on my personal PC. No one can tell when I wear it. A single Hot Swap battery is good for ten hours. Video record quality is better than the latest major police body-cam product offerings. My electronic engineer buddy put it together for me.
9/27/2016 11:13:00 AM
And when the time comes to use that footage, they'll hang you for violating general orders that strictly forbid your little personal camera. Your footage is yours, leaving you the option to edit it as you see fit. Where's the oversight to ensure you didn't just record the parts that make you look good? Who's to say you didn't delete the questionable stuff? Who's to say the audio isn't edited by you? Or let's just ignore all that crazy talk and focus on another little problem. Every recording you make is illegal. You have to tell people when you're recording audio and video. You can't just make a bunch of secret recordings and then decide to use them as evidence when it helps your case. Basically, you're a fucking moron. Good luck. I hope you get caught.
Detective exam scores are out!
At least we have a great Body Worn Camera Unit who has all the right tools in place to make cameras work properly. Naturally we are so lucky to have Deputy Lewin and the hidden Captain along with the BWC Sgt. who sets his own hours and can come and go as he pleases because he is connected to chief BW.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I work midnights in 007. Ranger all the way. I know times are hard, but when the going gets tough, the tough get going! 4 pistols off the street last week
9/27/2016 02:13:00 PM
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"Ranger all the way".
Lol!
You're an Idiot!
Iremember when the first body vests were issued they told us it's strictly voluntary. Then it became mandatory. Then they started giving you a day off for not wearing it. See the trend???? They want to fuck you every step of the way.Car cams, body cams, audio. Fight this bullshit all the way!!!!!!
Am I wrong, nearsighted, or whatever, but with the picture they keep flashing of Keith and his honey, is he or is he not wearing a shirt with what appears to be a security patch from some security company on it? Does that mean that this domestic batterer, mentally challenged individual was at one time, employed by a security company, and was possibly licensed to have a weapon? She sure as shit knew it, but if he was as crazy as she portrays him, how was he licensed? He only had a book...yeah, right.
Unable to perceive danger. Leave the man alone and let him read his paper. No.
Pro-Trump sheriff restrains and subdues a hostile drunk passenger who started abusing him on a flight
* Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr apprehended an abusive man
* Clarke and others on the flight were verbally abused by Preston Bluntson
* Bluntson, an African-American, used the n-word and accused Clarke of not being 'one of us'
* As the plane landed Clarke toppled the drunk man and police arrested him
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3809412/Pro-Trump-sheriff-forced-subdue-hostile-drunk-passenger-started-abusing-flight.html
Great photo of the Sheriff in his cowboy hat. Would not be out of place in a Clint Eastwood western.
"Doodle-oodle-oo...oo-oo-OO..." as the boots crunch towards each other on the main drag and the townsfolk run inside, doors slam shut, &c.
*
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Me and my partner record each other eating dinner. I always chew with my mouth open. Now if the air is clear? Pull my finger...
Too funny!
Ranger all the way... Are you fin kiddin me !? Did you get dropped on your head as a child or something? Keep being a ranger you dumbass il see you in sun times ... Let me guess you dont do anything wrong so nothing will happen to you right? God help cops like you be safe my brother
CONGRATS to Donald Trump! Great debate yesterday. Make America great again!
What debate were you watching? Trumped looked and sounded like a complete moron!!!
Dics numbers out
I was also an englewood ranger. Worked under tact lieutenant Chambers. He really knew how to motivate his men.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I work midnights in 007. Ranger all the way. I know times are hard, but when the going gets tough, the tough get going! 4 pistols off the street last week
No one cares Ranger, no one !
I work midnights in 007. Ranger all the way. I know times are hard, but when the going gets tough, the tough get going! 4 pistols off the street last week
9/27/2016 02:13:00 PM
Rangers Lead the Way son, some other military people say"all the way". When you're in moms basement watching you tube make sure you listen more carefully,that way you wont sound like a little boy with a button who got his lunch money taken in high school.
Sua Sponte
75/2
Why is everyone so upset? Cut the report. Get vri required activity. Make some ot. Enjoy furlo. Spend time with family and not at court. I see this as a win win. And don't forget to respond to jobs safely not just fast as hell. You can't help out if you don't get there at all. Sounds simple to me.
9/27/2016 07:40:00 PM
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I love the Sheriff Clarke story. I laugh at the "N word" usage. Soon we will no longer be able to use the word in context in reports even though we paraphrase what an offender might say.
Lol hey Ranger! This isn't the fucking Army.
Detective exam results are out. I'm #1 rank order.
-Nakia Fenner
OT FOP , PBPA , all city unions .
Ten years ago , FOP came within a few thousand votes to get on the ballot a referendum to reduce the number of alderman by 60%.
24,000 retired workers , 40,000 employees , plus family members . Spend some money , get petitions out in the mail to every retired member and employee , add a recall for mayor , term limit for mayor , alderman to two terms without any retirement package .
It can be accomplished , I forgot to add in the CPS Teachers Union , they are stronger than our Union .
Let's send a strong message .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm ranked 2467. You think I'm gonna make it?
9/27/2016 04:32:00 PM
Sure,be a Merit pick.
Anonymous said...
For my protection, I wear my personally owned concealed carry body cam that non-stop loop records date/time stamped video and audio. No lights or audio to indicate that it's recording. Haptic feedback lets me know it's recording and when I choose to Write Protect "important" record files for fast easy retrieval then retention on my personal PC. No one can tell when I wear it. A single Hot Swap battery is good for ten hours. Video record quality is better than the latest major police body-cam product offerings. My electronic engineer buddy put it together for me.
9/27/2016 11:13:00 AM
Does your buddy have a job for you when you get fired?
I'm not a cop, but I'd love to know why the FOP doesn't come out against body cams.
They are electromechanical devices that are designed to fail, and when they do the cop gets blamed. How is that fair to the cop?
They only show ONE angle at ONE point in time that may or may not tell the whole story along with the context of it. How is that fair to the cop? By way of example - the jagoff walking down a street in AZ shooting a rifle randomly - a cop was following him and telling him repeatedly to drop the weapon... That was one angle of video.
The other angle was from another cop in another car who used that car to run over the criminal and smash him into a wall to stop the criminal's destructive rampage. Without the first angle of video, it'd look like the cop "just ran over that poor man!" and you'd have riots...
Because both angles came out, no riots because the criminal was an obvious jagoff threat to the area that he needed to be stopped FAST and this was the best way to do it. Kudos to the cops.
But how many times do you end up that lucky with the video? Stir in any of the other problems that can come up:
* Faulty memory card
* Faulty battery
* Lens blurred due to meteorological conditions
* Corrupted data file due to something happening while uploading it
* Lost data file due to a server problem
* Bad backups of the data
* How much of this data has to be kept? What's that cost? Along with all the equipment and maintenance costs for the whole system. Big money, not much value from my perspective.
That money could be better utilized to help fill the whole that are your unfunded pensions.
... just a taxpayer.
Dics results are out. Tons of rumors about when the first class is gonna start
In Spain and the news keeps rebroadcasting the Charlotte shooting.
Anonymous said...
Unable to perceive danger. Leave the man alone and let him read his paper. No.
Pro-Trump sheriff restrains and subdues a hostile drunk passenger who started abusing him on a flight
* Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr apprehended an abusive man
* Clarke and others on the flight were verbally abused by Preston Bluntson
* Bluntson, an African-American, used the n-word and accused Clarke of not being 'one of us'
* As the plane landed Clarke toppled the drunk man and police arrested him
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3809412/Pro-Trump-sheriff-forced-subdue-hostile-drunk-passenger-started-abusing-flight.html
Great photo of the Sheriff in his cowboy hat. Would not be out of place in a Clint Eastwood western.
"Doodle-oodle-oo...oo-oo-OO..." as the boots crunch towards each other on the main drag and the townsfolk run inside, doors slam shut, &c.
*
9/27/2016 07:40:00 PM
There's always the reliable ONE m/fer who gets
far over his handlebars, no?
"Imma grown-ass MAN an' I gots the right to speak my mind!"
Sheriff Clarke showed great restraint.
much more than WE would've in a similar such situation.
We recall a man of the cloth who IS NOT of the
"glass block cross" persuasion... A real sweetheart
of a guy who was having a rough go with some local
hard-heads... The hard-heads don't know that the man
is a Vietnam War Paratrooper!
"Those young brothers almost made me step from under my anointment
and shielding..."
Perhaps Sheriff Clarke was mindful of the same thing?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
You have white shirts that still don't fully comprehend ISRs and body cameras, but they're gonna judge you after the fact and hang you out to dry
9/27/2016 12:32:00 AM
they have the white shirt, you do not. they are qualifiably smarter than you. maybe it is you that does not comprehend ISRs?
9/27/2016 09:12:00 AM
Sorry. Guess again. Just because they wear a white shirt doesn't mean they're smart. But nice try boss. It still stands true. Some don't understand these and other things relative to the job. You're telling me you haven't met a useless boss on the job? You must be a dumbass too
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I work midnights in 007. Ranger all the way. I know times are hard, but when the going gets tough, the tough get going! 4 pistols off the street last week
9/27/2016 02:13:00 PM
007th District Ranger here, have no idea wtf you are talking about. Please, elaborate.
04:07 hrs. To the retired CHP Sgt. - I believe that the ex CHP speaker was Gordon Graham who now does videos for Lexis on Law Officer's web page. Any idea who this guy is? Was he a desk jockey or a real police? I know that the IACP would always refer to his legal background when raising liability issues, so the Chiefs would always take note.
Are there any police blogs in CA that are as good - and funny - as SCC?
Retired .38 spl +P
It's a good idea to have a seatbelt on if your in a full frame vehicle.it will not crush non full frame vehicles will crush and take most of the impact and most likely you will be ok without a seat belt. The best thing is just make it a habit to wear it.just remember any full frame vehicle truck police sub or heavy duty vehicle the belt must be on.hope this helps someone who didn't know this
"There's always the reliable ONE m/fer who gets
far over his handlebars, no?
"Imma grown-ass MAN an' I gots the right to speak my mind!"
9/27/2016 11:57:00 PM
Ah, but more than one m/fer -- who obtained the same result. This one's all marked up.
SACRAMENTO MAYOR TACKLES PROTESTER WHO HIT HIM WITH PIE
22 September 2016
"SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A man took a coconut cream pie from a grocery bag, grabbed Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson from behind and smacked him in the face with it at a charity event, leading the former NBA star to start swinging and then tackle the man who was left battered and facing assault charges."
"Thompson had red and blue bruises and a roughly 1-inch line of stitches under his left eye when he spoke to The Associated Press in jail.
"He said the mayor turned and hit him at least twice "and pretty hard." Thompson said he covered his face and started to move away but was quickly surrounded by people and kept taking hits.
"Thompson said he expected to be tackled by police but was caught off guard when the punches came from the mayor. He...was surprised to be facing a felony, assaulting a public official.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3801575/Assault-arrest-man-hit-Sacramento-mayor-pie.html
Thompson's career? "He participated in some of the first Black Lives Matter protests in Sacramento in 2014 and in Occupy Sacramento rallies before that."
Mayor Johnson isn't seeking a third term there. Maybe he'd like to run Chicago? If we could get Sheriff Clarke down here to run the PD, we'd really have something.
OT FOP , PBPA , all city unions .
Ten years ago , FOP came within a few thousand votes to get on the ballot a referendum to reduce the number of alderman by 60%.
24,000 retired workers , 40,000 employees , plus family members . Spend some money , get petitions out in the mail to every retired member and employee , add a recall for mayor , term limit for mayor , alderman to two terms without any retirement package .
It can be accomplished , I forgot to add in the CPS Teachers Union , they are stronger than our Union .
Let's send a strong message .
9/27/2016 09:48:00 PM
Never happened. Stop making shit up.
" an African-American, used the n-word and accused Clarke of not being 'one of us' "
How do you call someone the N Word (as white people call it) then say that you're not one of us? Lol.
Our BCP speaks of casting out the devil --
"We recall a man of the cloth who IS NOT of the
"glass block cross" persuasion... A real sweetheart
of a guy who was having a rough go with some local
hard-heads... The hard-heads don't know that the man
is a Vietnam War Paratrooper!
"Those young brothers almost made me step from under my anointment and shielding..."
9/27/2016 11:57:00 PM
>WHAP< >AIEEE< >THUD< >CRACK<
"WHOO! Get you BEHIND me, Satan!"
Guy on his butt on the cement with one shoe gone and an accurate impression of the Lamb Of God reverse-embossed between his eyes from the good Reverend's fine heavy signet ring...
*
I work midnights in 007. Ranger all the way. I know times are hard, but when the going gets tough, the tough get going! 4 pistols off the street last week.
Cool story bro!! Or should I say "Ranger".
*eye roll*
Recent polls showing Trump only down 6% from Clinton in Illinois. Get all your friends and family to vote GOP on Nov. 8th. Send a message to the Dems that they can go fuck themselves for the hell they've turned our cities into.
"I'm not a cop, but I'd love to know why the FOP doesn't come out against body cams.
They are electromechanical devices that are designed to fail, and when they do the cop gets blamed. How is that fair to the cop?
They only show ONE angle at ONE point in time that may or may not tell the whole story along with the context of it. How is that fair to the cop? By way of example - the jagoff walking down a street in AZ shooting a rifle randomly - a cop was following him and telling him repeatedly to drop the weapon... That was one angle of video.
The other angle was from another cop in another car who used that car to run over the criminal and smash him into a wall to stop the criminal's destructive rampage. Without the first angle of video, it'd look like the cop "just ran over that poor man!" and you'd have riots...
Because both angles came out, no riots because the criminal was an obvious jagoff threat to the area that he needed to be stopped FAST and this was the best way to do it. Kudos to the cops.
But how many times do you end up that lucky with the video? Stir in any of the other problems that can come up:
* Faulty memory card
* Faulty battery
* Lens blurred due to meteorological conditions
* Corrupted data file due to something happening while uploading it
* Lost data file due to a server problem
* Bad backups of the data
* How much of this data has to be kept? What's that cost? Along with all the equipment and maintenance costs for the whole system. Big money, not much value from my perspective.
That money could be better utilized to help fill the whole that are your unfunded pensions.
... just a taxpayer."
And a dumb-assed one at that. But you get an A+ for dredging up moronic excuses to continue fighting against what will ultimately be an unwinnable battle. And not because you can provide any legitimate reason to NOT use cameras. (Mayonnaise on the lens doesn't count, sorry.) It would be different if the camera had to be toted around on a cart and needed two hands. But no. People like you oppose them only because it represents change, and you HATE change. You'd rather keep forking out taxpayer money to settle frivolous lawsuits. Keep your head in the sand and ignore reality for as long as possible. Freakin' wizard.
Do you still use a black and white film camera too?
"Am I wrong, nearsighted, or whatever, but with the picture they keep flashing of Keith and his honey, is he or is he not wearing a shirt with what appears to be a security patch from some security company on it? Does that mean that this domestic batterer, mentally challenged individual was at one time, employed by a security company, and was possibly licensed to have a weapon? She sure as shit knew it, but if he was as crazy as she portrays him, how was he licensed? He only had a book...yeah, right."
9/27/2016 07:35:00 PM
You caught it, too. Heard one line once off news radio, then never again, a claim that "he was wandering around with that stolen .380 on his ankle because he 'worked security at a mall.'" What, maybe unarmed ten years ago, looking in bags and bothering people for three weeks until he got fired for something? Those shirts are floating around all over.
C'mon. How many nuts have you seen sitting on the curb with a 40 oz., or messing with someone's car, wearing a ripped T-shirt and a "SECURITY" ball hat on sideways? They like that word.
Oh. This invisible "book?" She was putting it out that he was a "pastor," too, and the book was a "Koran."
I thought that would make him an "imam."
Just the usual crack-brained all-over-the-map crazy talk and crazy behavior on all sides.
...and thousands turn out night after night to "protest" all this. Just an excuse to grab something, wreck something, hit someone. Even to shoot someone in the head right there in the middle of all the "Don't Shoot Hands up," just to get a freak on.
This whole thing is like that.
... just a taxpayer."
And a dumb-assed one at that. But you get an A+ for dredging up moronic excuses to continue fighting against what will ultimately be an unwinnable battle. And not because you can provide any legitimate reason to NOT use cameras. (Mayonnaise on the lens doesn't count, sorry.) It would be different if the camera had to be toted around on a cart and needed two hands. But no. People like you oppose them only because it represents change, and you HATE change. You'd rather keep forking out taxpayer money to settle frivolous lawsuits. Keep your head in the sand and ignore reality for as long as possible. Freakin' wizard.
Do you still use a black and white film camera too?
9/28/2016 04:08:00 PM
Actually my head isn't in the sand. Reality is that the frivolous lawsuits ought not to have been entertained in the first place - they should have been recognized as such by the Judges and summarily dismissed. We don't negotiate with terrorists because it just emboldens them, so why would we want to pay off some criminal's family because the criminal committed a criminal act?
The proper response to a criminal or its family complaining about something that happened while the criminal was committing a crime is:
"Criminal activity comes with certain risks, including, but not limited to, arrest, prosecution, incarceration, injury, maiming, or even death. If any of this bothers you, your loved ones, or your heirs: DON'T ENGAGE IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY."
These 'cameras' have nothing to do with 'change' and everything to do with painting cops as bad guys with a broad brush. Are some bad? Sure, but deal with them, we don't need to blow millions of dollars each year on cameras that are designed to throw them under the bus, and drive even more criminal activity.
We've seen it happening already: ISR's, Receipts for stops and encounters, "camera" angles, "hands up don't shoot" (even when it was a lie), and on and on and on. So the cops sit back because they're not stupid and the criminals run rampant.
You want real change? Fine. Stop coddling generations from cradle-to-grave. Make receiving public assistance an embarrassment again so people don't want to be on it, and want to get off it as quickly as possible. Right now we've got food stamps (oh, sorry, I meant SNAP!), low-income residential heating assistance, clothes, cell phones, internet, transportation, medical, school, preferential job applicants, gimme points on tests and more - all designed to bring people up. Laudable to be certain, but it hasn't worked for the most part and we can witness this by looking at all the shootings, and other criminal nonsense that happens EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. in the City.
Putting cameras on cops isn't going to do anything to stop that. You have to instill FAMILY VALUES in the urban fun loving yufs, and to do that you need to have TWO PARENT families. Not one parent knocking up the one that squeezes them out, then ditches her for something else, leaving one to sorta kinda raise the kid with the assistance of the gangs...
But sure, cast a spell Warlock - see if spending millions on cameras will change the mindset of those fun loving people... I doubt it.
Since we already have an activist judiciary, we can now tolerate an activist Congress.
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