Parole Still a Bad Idea
- A man on parole in a 2013 Valentine’s Day robbery has been charged with murder in the killing on Valentine’s Day this year of two men he knew, according to police and records.
Marquise Hollerway, 22, faces first-degree murder charges in the deaths of Jeremy Hunter, 25, and Steven Tate, 26, who were found shot to death in their apartment in the 5000 block of South Champlain Avenue about 10:40 a.m. on Feb. 14, 2016. Cook County Judge Laura Marie Sullivan ordered him held without bail.
How about a "truth in sentencing" type movement? You get ten years, you serve ten years. And no counting the time spent waiting for trial, especially if your side is the one asking for continuance after continuance after continuance, hoping someone doesn't show up. If the State is ready, you go to trial. Any delay is just wasted time, not "credit."
And we promise to stop acting surprised when felons become repeat offenders.
And we promise to stop acting surprised when felons become repeat offenders.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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How about a "truth in sentencing" type movement? You get ten years, you serve ten years. And no counting the time spent waiting for trial, especially if your side is the one asking for continuance after continuance after continuance, hoping someone doesn't show up. If the State is ready, you go to trial. Any delay is just wasted time, not "credit."
Have several individuals I know in the prison system. They told me that the easiest crime to beat is murder, why I asked? They said well, first of all, they do not mind sitting in Cook County 3-5 years waiting it out and that also people forget details about the murder after having to show up in court on a monthly basis. WTF
Parole is necessary to keep the inmates in line;however, and there's always a however, it's abused in this state.
You want to punish people start "trading" prisoners to other states where they're away from their gang compatriots and family. Besides the lack of parole in the federal system the Illinois inmates who end up there hate and fear being out of state.
Getting inmates out of the county system quickly is good too. Again away from their friends and family.
I'm all for giving some people a second chance, but fourth and fifth chances are ridiculous. Sometimes the taxpayers just have to pay the cost of keeping scumwads locked up. You either pay for it that way or pay for it with a higher crime rate.
What Rahmbo doesn't realize is having fewer cops may save money in the short term, but the long term damage to Chicago's reputation and tax base is likely costlier. That means cops, prisons, mental health care etc have to be paid for. Those working and middle class folks fleeing the south and west sides because of crime aren't the people we want to lose.
My preferred alternative would be sending the bangers out to the Thornton Quarry and breaking them into two equally armed groups. Add alcohol, plenty of ammunition, heroin, crank, and some uppers and parole the survivors to an island paradise with plenty of weed and sex dolls. If there were any survivors.
I'm guessing it wouldn't pass constitutional muster.
Cupids' arrow sure has changed over the years
Parole is a joke.
there is only so much money to spend on locking people up. at some point they are going to get out either because their sentence is up or they get paroled and get out a little early.
we need to do something about better supervision after they get out (among many other things) if we want to break the cycle of recidivism.
Personally, I do not have an answer to the problem. Maybe there is not a good one.
Keep voting Democratic! It works!
How about taking "justice" back from the government? You're charged with a violent criminal felony this week, next week you go to trial. That weekend you hang by the neck until dead. No need for big state prisons, no repeat offenders, pretty soon no need for thousands of police officers when a few hundred can do the job.
Just a local county jail for minor offenses up to 30, 60, 90 day or up to one year sentences.
Only future "swingers" will pull a gun at a wedding, birthday party or Chuck E Cheeses, where a kid can be a kid.
Government "justice" has got you, me, everyone where we're at now. People have to take it back.
Won't be long before all police have to run from all armed criminals. If you're going to run, you don't need a gun, do you? But every citizen will need a gun to keep from being a victim.
Arm up or take justice back from the government because the government doesn't have any of our best interests in mind.
Stay safe Officers. Time for blue flu has past. Six weeks off for a broken limb might bring some deadly common sense back into some politicians.
J.J.
This is one of the reason I keep telling everyone I know to get a concealed to carry. A large percentage of the ones they parole are repeat criminals. If you put more and more of them on the street, then it becomes very dangerous just doing your normal routine. Carry a gun at all times, learn how to shoot, learn when to shoot, and shoot to kill.
In Florida 3 felony convictions makes one a habitual offender with a life sentence.
+++++ 'A man on parole in a 2013 **Valentine’s Day** robbery has been charged with murder in the killing on **Valentine’s Day** this year of two men... -->Prosecutors did not present information on what might have led to the killings<-- .'++++
Uh... maybe he just doesn't like Valentine's Day.
(rotflmao)
Can't we just put all the murderers on a boat and send then to Cuba
The parole system – oh, I'm sorry, I mean “Mandatory Supervised Release” (MSR) – is another joke on the stupid Illinois voters. It's real purposes are 1) to create and maintain yet another expensive layer of do-nothing politically connected state bureaucrats who collect nice salaries and even nicer pensions; 2) convince voters that released convicts are being supervised after they're put back on the street, and 3) that “prison overcrowding” (another lie) is being eased.
It used to be the convicts released on parole were walking on eggshells – “you do so much as to steal a candy bar and you'll land back in a cell to finish your sentence.” Now, of course, parole is never revoked for anything, and no convict ever has to go back to finish his sentence. That's because there's no supervision in MSR. It's a lie. And on paper, cons on MSR are still technically serving their sentences and people who don't read the small print on the DOC website might actually think the criminals are still behind bars, and that looks good to the low information voters and bimbos who report the news, but the reality is the cons are free to do pretty much whatever they want because no one's keeping tabs on them and even if they violate their MSR terms they'll never get revoked and sent back to prison. You could stop the MSR/parole system tomorrow and no one would ever know.
“Prison overcrowding” in Illinois is a myth. If it were true, then why did the state spend billions of taxpayer dollars to build state of the art prisons like Tamms and Thomson then shut them down or leave them empty only years after their completion? That question is never asked or answered. The corrupt policiticians tell the stupid voters that MSR is needed to “relieve prison overcrowding” because it's the easy excuse to divert money meant for public safety into their boondoggles.
MSR/parole needs to be abolished. Cons need to serve their sentences as they are defined in the sentencing code and as the public understands them.
Truth in sentencing? A good idea. But, how about a truth in judging to help along. Just go into any courtroom in the branch courts or main trial courts and you will find an empty court room. Speedy trials are unheard of.
I'm guessing it wouldn't pass constitutional muster.
9/25/2016 01:36:00 AM
If we could televise it and re-coop the cost then I would go with your idea. Otherwise, let's fire up the wood chipper.
Simply no laws are enforced anymore.
The New Age of Social Justice is picking up speed in high gear.
Hugging and Mentoring is the current solutions offered from your pansy-assed politicians.
Wait until the Rahm's Refugees invade the Sanctuary City.
No revenue produced for police protection, yet millions will be spent on entitlements.
Taxpayers be advised, more will be demanded to keep parolees fed and housed in your community.
Oh Crap. Just let them shoot amongst themselves.
OK - let's call a spade a spade. Why start posting witty items about demo-rats, how great trump would be blah blah blah when our current republican asshat has done nothing to stop the parole of recidivists? Is his budget battle with midget madigan so consuming that issues like abuse of parole is merely a campaign promise that so far has been ignored? I'm no fan of Quinnochio - but when it comes to the IL DOC and the Parole Board - Rauner is just as inept. And Rauner has also left our colleagues at the ISP under staffed as they try to handle the numerous expressway shootings and downstate areas have NO troopers on the midnight shift.
Retired .38 spl +P
Out Source convicted felons to China or Cuba they know how to handle armed violent criminals .
"Anonymous said...
In Florida 3 felony convictions makes one a habitual offender with a life sentence.
9/25/2016 08:43:00 AM
wait a minute!! I spent thousands of dollars to get away from them. Oh, wait. If they forward the thugs with their previous convictions, maybe I'd be happy to pay for their incarceration, Not their presence in my community, or life. Thankfully, HR 218 is less difficult to obtain here than there.
First off, Illinois has enhanced penalties on all major felonies, and that includes if one has a background of two prior Class Two Felonies or greater, one is looking at life.
Regarding pre-trial detention and not crediting that against a sentence. 1. It is incarceration. 2. So, the guy who is able to post bond gets a better deal? 3. Attorneys, in my experience don't use the delay and deny (work the system manipulation) on serious felonies. They are used for "minor" DV and other misdemeanors. If a lawyer does use "deny and delay" tactics it is typically reserved for guys out on bond. 4.Most defendants locked up want to get out of CCDOC and go Downstate asap because the food is better. 5. Most times, continuance are BUY AGREEMENT between the State and Defense. Reports are outstanding, etc. The State needs your reports too.
Lock up the two-legged animals for their entire sentence. If this means building more prisons, so be it. Get the new prison funds from one of the toll roads. Declare a toll road or two to have their revenue diverted to a special New Prison fund. Say for 3 years. No increase in the tolls, just divert the current funds for a set amount of time.
5. Most times, continuance are BUY AGREEMENT between the State and Defense. Reports are outstanding, etc. The State needs your reports too.
9/25/2016 06:09:00 PM
Were you making a statement about corruption or are you not as smart as you think you are?
cant be locking up their voters. they get to vote 5x, to make it "fair"
You want to talk about continuances?? I have misdameanor DUI case that is going on it's 8th year. Every time it's continued by defendant. I think they are hoping I'll retire before they Demand Trial.
Like Schleswig-Holstein, there is no solution. Live long, picnic on your enemy's grave and carry on...
There's some good ideas here -- and a couple of boners.
Presentence custody credit is only fair (and it's the law, constitutionally speaking as well). And "county time" is usually much worse than "state time."
Just locking someone up isn't a cure-all if we don't do anything with them while they are in and when they get out. That said, I like Wisconsin's "truth in sentencing" law. They did away with parole and came up with a mandate that a judge sending someone to prison has to set the "initial period of confinement" and then "extended supervision" (which took the place of parole). A judge could then pronounce a ten year sentence, for example, and then provide for, say, four years in and six years on paper. Illinois might want to look at the Wisconsin model.
That's sick. If the judge had any brains and balls that wouldn't happen.
Did see a judge with a set pull a DUI from the bottom of the list and order it up for trial. Apparently a witness needed for another case couldn't make it until later in the week so the judge did the right thing. Defense attorney almost soiled his undies.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You want to talk about continuances?? I have misdameanor DUI case that is going on it's 8th year. Every time it's continued by defendant. I think they are hoping I'll retire before they Demand Trial.
9/26/2016 11:58:00 AM
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