Thanks for Your Service
- A sizeable group of retired city workers are set to lose their health insurance just days from now and are scrambling to figure out how they will afford coverage. [...]
“Maybe 86 years is enough” sighed retired City of Chicago employee, Julia Tyagay. The strain of Julia Tyagay’s situation adds to her list of ailments requiring physical therapy and prescription drugs. Years ago the retired civil engineer relied on the City of Chicago for her health insurance, but next year that’s scheduled to change costing her thousands. “They charge an awful amount,” Tyagay said.
“The city promised them it should follow through with its commitment, these are retirees where are they going to get this kind of money,” said Attorney Clint Krislov. “That’s the problem.”
These retirees, numbering up around 1,000, are facing bills running north of $1,500 a month and are ineligible for Medicare, which could prove to be a death sentence for many elderly workers who worked for the city for decades.
A final glimmer of hope:
A final glimmer of hope:
- There is a motion in the Illinois Supreme Court that would force the city to continue paying for worker health insurance near term, occurring Wednesday night. A decision is expected to be made any day now.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
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The sanctuary city of Chicago says "Welcome. Here is your free health care".
Tells its retired public servants to GFY.
Serious question:
What kind of retirement medical care do retired Chicago elected officials get?
I have to pay my Medicare payments out of my Social Security payments which are 60% reduced. I hope President Trump will fix that.
My mother in law is in the same boat here. Her husband served the city for over 30 years and past away. Well she survived and now her half pension will be eaten up to pay for medical insurance that ends this year.
What a sad sign to all employees and retirees.
Any way to break the agreement works better then standing by an agreement.
But shit-heads that never worked a day and their only achievement in life was popping out as many mutts as it could from as many different sperm donor's it could find has their housing, food, hospital, obongo phones etc. paid for by those who actually worked their entire lives only to be fucked over in retirement. Typical Democrap libtards appreciation.
Gilmer has to go. He is as arrogant as they come. Dean will I never support a team Gilmer is part of. Let him be rude to your team.
Welcome to the real world where "life-time" benefits get cut back by organizations who cannot afford it any more.
Cut back some of the waste in Chicago and they can easily pay these people's healthcare. The sad thing is, there is so much waste of taxpayers' money, they take it out on the little guy (and girl).
How many people who worked at MANY Chicago-based companies lost pensions, healthcare and everything else? No one shed a tear for them.
No matter what you think, NOTHING is guaranteed. AND my BIG question would be - where is YOUR union?
What are you paying dues for? Oh wait. FOP is NOT going to protest anything. They know THEY have it good and they will do what they are told. ALL of you forgot - you work for a Cloutocracy, and the Union has no balls.
So you have that BIG premium? Welcome to what everyone else has to deal with. Start demanding better government and VOTE these idiots out.
Now that you're not "taken care of" you start to see how bad this government is run in this state.
I doubt the state is gonna do shit...
A big reason, I tell young people to NOT come on Chicago Police Dept. the city will not back you and will strip away earned benefits!
Chicago is really a jagoff city!
Da Pelon
Hmmm...
Rahm isn't worried sick about his elderly
parents being thrown to the dogs like this.
Isn't he?
Sleeps like a baby he does.
Evil, hateful and vile mis-mothered fuck
couldn't WAIT to parachute into Chicago
and start his war against The Police,
Police Retirees and their families to
steal from them and slavishly lavish
upon the non-contributing mutts who make
up the majority of his voter base.
"We're gonna stick it in the Cops ear..."
Yet these jagoffs find money for illegals. Every citizen should be outraged that tax dollars are being used for people who shouldn't even be here. Rahm and the majority of the shitty council have decided to put illegals before citizens.
Anne Burke should recuse herself. Eddie would be in that group.
Too bad they are American Citizens and didn't come here illegally, if so, not only would everything be free, but the media woul DEMAND it be free.
Sounds like the lying libs AGAIN. Lets take the old people's healthcare bene's, then they can't pay premiums on private insurance and don't qualify for medicaid or medicare. Then they DIE and save the CITY MONEY! Makes perfect sense to me.
Instead of asking for donations for a law suit that he was already paid for and a law suit that he agreed to an end date on. Krizlov should not have told these 1000 most vulnerable to wait until mid December to get insurance. He did that as a way to keep his law suit and donation wagon moving forward. I wish he would have disclosed how much he made the first time on this and how much he has received to date in donations. The city should grandfather in these 1000 at a level equal to the penalty from Medicare when purchasing after the age of 65. They shoukd also allow them on the city plan until their effective date on Medicare of july 1st. Clint Krizlov wants a second bite of the legal fees Apple on their backs. The bar association should look into donations to attorneys. How much has he taken personally from these 1000? Nice timing on his press realeass. Yesterday was the close of open enrollment for people that aren't Medicare eligible. It you are one of them, talk to your financial planner about options.
According to the twerp mayor's brother that's about the life expectancy for any human...
Despicable! Maybe some of that left over tax money we're using to provide legal defense for illegal immigrants should be used to help these retired city workers / legal United States citizens. Maybe some of these retirees should renounce their U.S. citizenship and reclassify themselves as an undocumented former worker, then maybe the local politicians will pay attention.
Why do they not qualify for Medicare?
I know where they can find $1.3M to pay for this insurance in the city budget!
some of the old-timers don't have medicare because they didn't pay into it - we do pay into it
Fucking joke, And the joker is the mayor
Where is Dean Angelo and the FOP on this? How could they forget about the non-medicare people? There is no way that my wife and I can afford this.
Wasn't just letting older people die part of obamaCARE?
J.J.
6.50am---regarding Zeke Emmanuel, don't forget Ari is a major principal in UberUSA. Use Lyft instead.
What do the CPS teachers get?
now alderman want to hire minority criminals over minority men and women that obey the law , insult to every minority
Emmanuel is a FAILURE
FOP leadership part of the City/Rahm Establishment Class ,wake up , need a Trump like President of FOP , otherwise a waste of your money
That is why ObamaCare was put in place. A rescue net for these exact situations.
Anyone earning 17K or less gets FREE Health Insurance thru Obongo's Tax Act and better insurance than we all got while working on the job. Well not exactly free, taxpayers are footing the bill!!
JAGOFFS!!!!!!!!
nymous said...
Instead of asking for donations for a law suit that he was already paid for and a law suit that he agreed to an end date on. Krizlov should not have told these 1000 most vulnerable to wait until mid December to get insurance. He did that as a way to keep his law suit and donation wagon moving forward. I wish he would have disclosed how much he made the first time on this and how much he has received to date in donations. The city should grandfather in these 1000 at a level equal to the penalty from Medicare when purchasing after the age of 65. They shoukd also allow them on the city plan until their effective date on Medicare of july 1st. Clint Krizlov wants a second bite of the legal fees Apple on their backs. The bar association should look into donations to attorneys. How much has he taken personally from these 1000? Nice timing on his press realeass. Yesterday was the close of open enrollment for people that aren't Medicare eligible. It you are one of them, talk to your financial planner about options.
12/16/2016 06:47:00 AM
You don't know what you talking about that's plain and simple. Clint Krizlov is in the red on this issue and he is dealing with some of the most liberal Judges in the universe and for the above to just say, talk to your financial planner is bullshit and you know it
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yet these jagoffs find money for illegals. Every citizen should be outraged that tax dollars are being used for people who shouldn't even be here. Rahm and the majority of the shitty council have decided to put illegals before citizens.
12/16/2016 05:34:00 AM
true and he put 1 million in property tax rebate money to help the illegal invading criminals get lawyers as we suffer higher property taxes! This asshole does whatever he pleases he is set to lose billions in federal assistance, no wonder he was at trump tower probably doing ballerina routine begging "law and order" Trump to not open the city books to the criminal activities!
If the police department is budgeted for 12000, and there's only 9000 on the job, then were is the money for the rest going? Just wondering?????
Tell me Rahms Administration didn't see this coming. Hey wake up Rahm, obamaCare is going away. No surprise that
Rahm's broham, Zeke the Dr. designed obamaCare to be a Death Warrant for the elderly.
Pushed through because "they lied to the stupid American people" was the quote from Jonathan Gruber, another architect of the Democrat healthcare scheme that Rahm relied on to screw over city Retirees.
If the Court can hold this over, the intention of the Trump Administration is to abolish the obamaCare farce and may force Rahm Emanuel to continue to pay the healthcare costs as promised. Remember, it's the gov. subsidies shrinking and rising premiums, low participation, and with Medicare and MedicAid being drained by nonworking deadbeats, hospitalized gunshot thugs, increased illegal immigration and refugees of the obama-rahm Administration.
No obamaCare should mean there are no cost effective alternatives as he promised, therefore previous agreement should remain intact until the healthcare issues are resolved probably again in the Supreme Court. Now some may see the importance of a new President Trump and who will pick the next 2-3 Supreme Court Jusctices to mend what Roberts allowed to remain.
Also, remember who voted twice for obama and the rest of the democrats in Chicago and thank them first for this predicament.
(But hey, "it's only $2 a pay period". Right?)
Incredible rahm buys votes spends hundreds of millions on taking care of the illegal criminals, he then stands their giving more lies as he protects the criminal element! But then again what do you expect from a so called man who was/is a ballerina raised in the richest of homes, the best schools, but yet cannot even protect his own family with the fleet of so called "security specialists" who are all patrolman rank but will get commanders and sergeants huge pension dip! his own son was not even protected then when the thug is caught rahm refuses to have him arrested and charged properly! Such a "law and order" mayor really a sickening display of cowardliness!
The blue line the coppers that sacrificed citizens who lived in this cesspool for their entire careers, saved how many lives get shit on typical rahm! Then you have "former police officer" (what was he on 1 month) Eddie Burke not saying anything as coppers health care is taken away!
Lastly why does fire have a pension based on civil service rank which is lyingtenant same rank as on cpd, they stopped the gold braid pension theft bill while our guy hauser just keeps giving our money away to political hacks, come on Kenny your the head and the fish stinks from the head down now like you promised stop the gold braid bill now "got balls?" Think of all that cash that could of easily paid for health care of these retirees but the pigs are just getting fatter and fatter and say "fuck everyone else it is about me!"
There's always money for pandering. But when you want to get more money to pander even more, you make budget cuts that will generate loud protests and great video. Because no one wants their 86 year old gramma (who served the city for so many years) to die... so... TAXES!
Politicians always make budget cuts that will hurt the weakest people. That always generates sympathy and media play and makes it ok then to raise taxes that will "help the unfortunate". It's a con game. Meanwhile, the fat cats get fatter and the politicians reap the windfalls.
City workers and retirees pensions benefits get royally screwed by the city and they still vote for this penny pinching twerp of a mayor and his 50 thieves. Why? For the reason that Kim Foxx got elected. Ignorant voters don't know how to vote Republican to save their life.
Hell the shitty WANTS these retirees to die as soon as possible!!! Saves the shitty $$$.
" To hell with your years of faithful service to the citizens of this shitty!! Now, hurry up and DIE!! We need to give your pension money to the illegal alien legal support fund. THEY are much more important"
Keep voting for this one party that rules only for themselves.
How much money is this gonna save the city? And where is it going to when they're done ?
Anyone got the balls to say?
Hey Mr. SoutSide - How right you are! Anne Burke is also busy trying to get a 5th star on the Chicago flag for her charity. Maybe Ed Burke should take care of these poor souls the way he took care of crazy ol' Joe Curtin when each Supt. tried to take away his gold star and keep him hidden.
Retired .38 spl + P
Well city council has authorized several million dollars to fund legal help to the undocumented and those who can't afford cheaper public legal help, saving any distress to firms like "the people's law center" etc.,.....Forget putting that cash into something more constructive.....
So let's see the undocumented, and persons on the dole, get free medical, free phone, free housing (with better cabinetry than my house), and what is my purpose to lock up these people?
This is like a bad game of shoots n' ladders......
radio......on
Que.......
Dead Kennedy's "Police Truck"
.Tonight's the night that we got the truck
We're goin' downtown gonna beat up drunks
Your turn to drive I'll bring the beer
It's the late, late shift no one to fear
And ride, ride how we ride........
The left newspapers might whine a bit
But the guys at the station they don't give a s**t
Dispatch calls "Are you doin' something wicked?"
"No siree, Jack, we're just givin' tickets" .....
Ahhh memories of a broken age......
Prince Valium
here's an idea, when a citizen marries a person that is not a legal citizen, the non-citizen then benefits rather than getting deported (in theory). So what if a single police officer marries (with a prenup. agreement (i.e. no expectation of pension, etc.)) a single retired police officer and add them to their insurance. Have the new spouse agree to pay increase in monthly medical insurance. What benefit would the active member get, none, its just love that brought them together just like the citizen non-citizen affair.
Go to Stroger or Oak Forest like the rest of us private sector workers who lost half their 401scams in 2008!
That's what Rahm would like......for us retirees to just fuck off and die.
Remember his quote of "sticking it in the cops ear"
Also remember he's got $40 million for his "mentoring" in "the community" and $1.5 Million to assist illegal aliens but when it comes to retirees who gave their working lives to the city.... sorry Rahm's crying poor.
Thanks for your service... smell ya later.
Anonymous said...
Where is Dean Angelo and the FOP on this? How could they forget about the non-medicare people? There is no way that my wife and I can afford this.
12/16/2016 09:02:00 AM
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Send a thank you note to Obama before he retires.
Remember Dougherty was quoted in the news paper as saying ""Obamacare was a good option for retirees!"
Don't let Anne Burke get her Christmas Wish of having a 5th Star named in her Honor. What a scumbag. The current Chicago Flag is Iconic. It also won 1st place when voted on by Tourists from all over the World this year. Doesn't she have enough?? Does she think God is holding a front row seat for her in the After-life?? Anne Burke is regularly Toasting her-self. She's also a Judge on the Illinois Supreme Court. She has too much wasted power...its all about Anne.
Anonymous said...
Why do they not qualify for Medicare?
12/16/2016 07:02:00 AM
Because they don't qualify for social security.
I sure hope for a commen sence decision.
But thecity has over a $1,000,000.00 to help undocumented people. But no money to help the ones that worked to better this city and were promised this,
those on medicare can get better coverage and cheaper rates than they were paying with the city. Why even go back with the city if they have to take us back. Plan F on a medicare supplement is way better than the city and cheaper and even with a plan D for drugs is still cheaper.
I'm a retiree who is also getting screwed,my wife is not medicare age until April needed I surname for those first 3 months of 2017. Well I found an insurance guy who got her a short term policy for under $500 a month. She is in good health and on no meds. Short term is up to 11 months. I talked with the folks from that source one but there stuff is sky high for a big deductible policy. Try FIRST HEALTH, THEY ARE A BIG COMPANY. AND THANK FOP FOR PUTTING THIS AETNA PLAN TOGETHER. I ONLY HOPE THEY DON'T RAISE TE RATES IN A YEAR OR TWO
What's with this liberal judge COHEN? Makes a favorable ruling but will not order the city to continue coverage, remember his name at election time. I hear his wife has ties to Daley and Rahm
I'm a retired Sergeant and really want to know why PBPA and the Sergeants association didn't get involved in this in nuance issue until you sent out some letter 2 weeks ago backing as one fucked up insurance plan.RETIRED GUYS FUCK THIER FREE CORNED BEEF DINNER IN FEBRUARY AND BOYCOTT THE GOLF OUTING. THANK YOU JIM AIDE FOR NOTHING.
12/17/2016 12:59:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Why do they not qualify for Medicare?
12/16/2016 07:02:00 AM
Because they don't qualify for social security.
12/17/2016 01:22:00 AM
If you were hired prior to 1985 Medicare wasn't deducted from your check as it has been ever since around '85.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Why do they not qualify for Medicare?
12/16/2016 07:02:00 AM
Because they don't qualify for social security.
12/17/2016 01:22:00 AM
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they don't get medicare because some guys did not pay into medicare - social security has nothing to do with it.
We get medicare because we pay into it - look at your pay stub
Anonymous said...
I'm a retired Sergeant and really want to know why PBPA and the Sergeants association didn't get involved in this in nuance issue until you sent out some letter 2 weeks ago backing as one fucked up insurance plan.RETIRED GUYS FUCK THIER FREE CORNED BEEF DINNER IN FEBRUARY AND BOYCOTT THE GOLF OUTING. THANK YOU JIM AIDE FOR NOTHING.
12/17/2016 08:54:00 AM
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Also out lobbyist is claiming he helped with the cola bill. My brother in law is a state rep from the corn belt and a full time farmer. He says the PBPA was nowhere to be found during the veto session. It's time to get our own FOP lodge. Ade is just waiting till this term is over before he goes to Streets and San.
Rope and lamp post time is fast approaching.
Don't blame Rham this it actually started with Harold and was carried on by "Dick" Daley, the decision was to cancel the insurance agreement in 2013 but is has been in litigation for 3 plus years, did any of those whining about it make any plans, not likely they just relied on somebody else to lookout for them.
And quit bitching about FOP they kicked in money to the attorney and came up with an alternative the joint plan with the city & Blue Cross.
The membership should have worked on this years back, finding an alternative, or GETTING OFF YOUR ASS AND GETTING SOME MONEY PAID INTO SOC SECURITY SO YOU COULD HAVE MEDICARE AND SOC SECURITY.
This began in 1988 where have you chowder heads been, suckin up booze at your corner stop or spending time at the boats.
Let City workers go back on Social Security!
nothing holds down pension costs like death
Oh is that why aide would do nothing about all the sgts cheating on th Lt test. That stinks!
8:51 AM
Judge Cohen's wife is none other than former Daley Corporation Counsel Susan Sher, Michelle Obama's pal.
THIS IS CHICAGO!
Give the 29 and a day full medical benefits, otherwise the rest of the guys on days with 23 years and above will never get a summer fulough on days.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Why do they not qualify for Medicare?
12/16/2016 07:02:00 AM
Because they don't qualify for social security.
12/17/2016 01:22:00 AM
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they don't get medicare because some guys did not pay into medicare - social security has nothing to do with it.
We get medicare because we pay into it - look at your pay stub
12/17/2016 10:15:00 AM
While we are on the subject: You can beat the WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) that reduces your Social Security by putting in 30 years of contributions (amount goes up a little each year). Every year of contributions from years 21 through 30 reduces the penalty a bit. Could be a strategy for younger guys. Go to SS website for details.
Anonymous said...
Anyone earning 17K or less gets FREE Health Insurance thru Obongo's Tax Act and better insurance than we all got while working on the job. Well not exactly free, taxpayers are footing the bill!!
JAGOFFS!!!!!!!!
12/16/2016 11:01:00 AM
It's Medicaid. Not better than what we got. Lot's of Dr.'s will not accept it.
I'm a retiree who is also getting screwed,my wife is not medicare age until April needed I surname for those first 3 months of 2017. Well I found an insurance guy who got her a short term policy for under $500 a month. She is in good health and on no meds. Short term is up to 11 months. I talked with the folks from that source one but there stuff is sky high for a big deductible policy. Try FIRST HEALTH, THEY ARE A BIG COMPANY. AND THANK FOP FOR PUTTING THIS AETNA PLAN TOGETHER. I ONLY HOPE THEY DON'T RAISE TE RATES IN A YEAR OR TWO
12/17/2016 08:48:00 AM
If you are already on Medicare, didn't you have a bridge policy for the wife from the date you turned 65 until the date she turns 65? Or, was the bridge policy through the city and it is no longer available to you after 31 December 2016?
Any news from the Illinois Supreme Court regarding the retiree healthcare?
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