Monday, January 02, 2017

Shooting

  • Chicago police shot a man who fled a traffic stop early Sunday in an incident that also sent three officers in the hospital, the Chicago Sun-Times is reporting.

    The man was in critical but stable condition Sunday, according to police. No gun was found at the scene of the shooting. Supt. Eddie Johnson said the hospitalized officers were in good condition and had perhaps already been released. The officer who fired at the suspect has been placed on administrative duty for 30 days, which is routine, he said.

    [...] Police noticed a white Hyundai SUV speeding and running a stop sign at 2:20 a.m. near the 1200 block of South State Street, Johnson said. The driver initially stopped the car when officers tried to pull it over, but he drove south after officers left their car. Police followed the car for about five blocks and saw it drive up on the sidewalk, Johnson said.

    Finally, the SUV sideswiped several cars and crashed into a police squad car, injuring the officers. Police approached the car and found the man in the driver’s seat. Johnson said the man struggled as officers tried to restrain him, and that’s when an officer shot him two times. He was taken to Christ Medical Center, Johnson said.
Notice the media placement of the "No gun was found at the scene" statement, completely disregarding the fact that the assailant deliberately drove up on the sidewalk (endangering pedestrians), crashed into a squad car (aggravated battery injuring officers) and continued to fight after his means of escape had been disabled (breaking numerous other laws.)

But "no gun" will be the media narrative along with the inevitable protestors.

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31 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was going to play devil's advocate but decided against it. Hope all three p.o.'s recover and it all works out for them.

1/02/2017 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So was the vehicle the only weapon being used against them? If so, how's that gonna fly? It's bullshit that this even has to be questioned. Good job either way.

1/02/2017 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New rumor: singing "kumbaya", holding hands, and praying together, are the new "de-escalation" techniques coming out in the new use-of-force order.

1/02/2017 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Car likely is stolen. Driver likely wanted on warrants. Thank God no officers were seriously injured.

1/02/2017 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another ghetto lottery payout coming shortly. And another cop dragged over the coals. SOP, unless there is a weapon. Monday morning QB followed by the issuance of another order detailing when to use deadly force will follow. Like Ground Hog Day.

1/02/2017 02:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep. The media will continue to harp on the no gun and will likely even describe offender as unarmed even though he was clearly using his vehicle as a deadly weapon.
The media blows.

1/02/2017 03:03:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Here we go again.....

1/02/2017 05:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The story does make it seem like there was no valid reason to shoot. The car was stopped so it was not being used as a weapon. A struggle for an officers weapon ok. They had better get there story straight, the paper and the cops.

1/02/2017 06:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

President Trump is right!

The media are a bunch of liars!

1/02/2017 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did the car get stripped?

1/02/2017 08:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11-p

1/02/2017 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

superintendent already called all officers involved and stripped them pending further investigation..THIS IS TRUE!!!!

1/02/2017 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The media is evil as they pre judge and conveniently leave out crucial truths.Hillary Clinton still lost the election.

1/02/2017 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like he committed a bunch of forceable felonies and attempted to escape. Guess what you can shoot a fleeing felon who is escaping.

1/02/2017 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let the riots begin. Ho-hum... "Peaceful protesters" can start burning and looting the liquor stores and Wal-Marts before the lawsuits are filed.
BLM can screech into loud speakers about the inhumanity but as usual, forget any facts that don't fit their narrative.
Hope the Officers have a rapid recovery, and all their actions were justified.
Stay safe Officers.

J.J.

1/02/2017 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay outta da communerty's bidness!

That way, they can't march you to the
hanging tree to make an example out
of you when you act according to your
training and the law...

Get it?
Got it?
Good.

A full recovery to the injured Officers.

God help all involved as they don't have a prayer
given the current climate.

Leave the community and their bullshit alone!
This game is not designed for Policemen to win.

1/02/2017 11:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Yep. The media will continue to harp on the no gun and will likely even describe offender as unarmed even though he was clearly using his vehicle as a deadly weapon.
The media blows.

1/02/2017 03:03:00 AM

Nationwide, the media blows; in Chicago, the media swallows.

1/02/2017 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hope that VRI activity was worth it.

1/02/2017 01:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All that for a traffic violation.
Who demanded the activity quota?

Engaging in '30 days pending' and 'when's the benefit' pro-active ghetto policing has no positive end result.
In the coming months, I'm sure 30 Days Special Ed will be at 26th & Cal for moral support and 1st ticket.
Too bad.
This is Rahm's World and this case won't end quietly.

Better to Stay Fetal.

1/02/2017 01:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A Vietnam vet once told me.." now you know how we felt".

1/02/2017 06:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The "unarmed" and the "no gun" narrative is pretty tired, but so too is a guy being shot over some traffic crap. Ok fair enough, he ran. Hey cops, some of your buddies )and especially your superiors, have a LOT of people scared that they are going to be shot over something as trivial as traffic stops. They really do fear being shot because they didn't answer certain bogus questions properly enough or fast enough or heck if they sneeze while being questioned. It is absolutely true that the vast majority of that fear is irrational. But you know what? Some of that fear is legit. Should they run? Of course not! But i have an idea for you, something along the lines of staying fetal.

Rather than slamming them down and wrestling and dogpiling (and then shooting?) these guys, why not corral them and wait them out? Why not break them down MENTALLY and make them cuff up willingly, well as willingly as it gets in such a situation, like in jail? Of course this won't work in all situations, and to an extent you guys already do this, but why take the bait these fools keep laying out for you to take - only to have the "no gun was found" drama?

If it take an hour telling a guy he has no choice but to cuff up and take his arrest like a man, heck if it takes three, what is the beef with it? See, on the street getting beat down form the po po is like a badge of honor. You guys think you got your job done effectively according to training, but all you really did was feed the ammunition belts of the BLM freaks and the media whores. What are they going to write about when you patiently wait out a guy who ran, got chased into a no escape situation and had to willingly give up. Better yet, what is gonna brag about to his homies? That he just gave in, that he punked out and didn't fight back?

Hey cops, the force avilable to you but which you do not use is the most effective. Think it over, I envision LOTS of stories where cops are having their time taken up by the punk who refuses to cuff up. Heck, you will have people BEGGING you to stop the waiting around and BEGGING you to"do something". Seriously, add it to your fetal play. It stands to gain you so much if you folks add it in and just wait them out!

1/02/2017 06:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rather than slamming them down and wrestling and dogpiling (and then shooting?) these guys, why not corral them and wait them out? Why not break them down MENTALLY and make them cuff up willingly, well as willingly as it gets in such a situation, like in jail? Of course this won't work in all situations, and to an extent you guys already do this, but why take the bait these fools keep laying out for you to take - only to have the "no gun was found" drama?

+++++++

This has to be one of the most retarded things I've waisted my time reading on this blog. Actually, no, it was funny. We're talking about putting hands on people that have shot, murdered people and lack any form of conscience or remorse for hurting people. I'm staying in the fucking squad car, not participating in your liberal-minded outrageous circus. Thanks for the support but my God, people really are this stupid? Like seriously? People have no idea about the psychology of criminals.

1/02/2017 11:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

superintendent already called all officers involved and stripped them pending further investigation..THIS IS TRUE!!!!

++++++++

Wow, very insightful. Who are your sources? I mean, this has to be a total and unexpected secret. Ask your well-placed source if he/she has any more earth-shattering secrets.

1/02/2017 11:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 6:19pm:
Did you not read the story fuckstick and what the offender did? You aren't the police so shut the fuck up. Yeah it's everybody else's fault but ones own. Personal responsibility doesn't exist in your world apparently. Whether he should've been shot or not is not the issue. The issue is we have a culture that does what it wants, when it wants, and doesn't seem to have to listen or respect authority. There is a common denominator with all, backup...most incidents in society. Its obvious but noone wants to address it head on. Dude was the aggressor, he caused the situation. He dictated the terms. Your talking about mentally engaging these jagoffs? Yeah the police are trained in that too these days. Some shitheads can't be talked down. Fact. When your high on pcp explain to me how it's done big shot? Your tired? I'm tired of the blatant disrespect for the law and for other citizens. I'm tired of broke asses like yourself walking around with the entitlement badge on. I'm tired of all the politics. I'm tired of all the poor me, cry me a river racists. I'm tired of people like you that believe everything written or said in the media is gospel. Wake up little fella. The world we live in is full of bad people but you only hear about certain incidents when it's in the paper or on the news. Many don't make it on the news or in the paper. Most cops deal with the public respectfully and professionally. But you wouldn't know anything about that because you're probably trying to suck your own dick in your mommas basement. You and people like you want the police to just stand by while you wreak havoc amongst the community. And for the most part it's happening right now. This is what you all wanted. And it doesnt mean the police arent doing their job. Their job does not require them to be proactive. They are only required to answer their calls and write paper if necessary. The public has gotten so used to the police proactively working the streets that they expect it. That is not the case any longer. Times have changed. And what they are doing now is doing their job just not to your satisfaction. I hope you never need the police dipshit. Maybe just maybe they'll be too busy staying fetal. And then slowly drive to your location because they don't want to drive fast and get hit by some ass monkey speeding and going through stop signs 'n shit. They don't want to run a red light and get accused of abusing their power. And then once they finally arrive, hopefully your not dead and they will give you a report to make you feel all better. The offender probably won't be on scene any longer but that's okay because he wouldn't have listened to us anyways and they may have had to use verbal judo on him. There are instances where an offender doesn't have to be armed for us to shoot. But I'm not going to get into all that with you. You know everything. In this climate its not wise to but if it warrants such action then so be it. Hopefully it's justifiable and the officer's are safe. Seems like you know everything already on how to be the police and how they should do their job. Do us all a favor and go back to bashing the police on copblock. Nobody cares what you have to say. Heard it all before. I suppose your one that also thinks the police shouldnt have healthcare or a pension. They are mere perks for dealing with douchebags like you. Fuck ya very much and happy new year bitch.
PS: you're gay.

1/03/2017 03:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop chasing cars! The department will hang you. They put all the blame on us not the criminal.

1/03/2017 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you're killed by an "unarmed" suspect then you're not as dead as being killed by an armed suspect. The mainstream media, folks...

1/03/2017 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 6:19pm:
Did you not read the story fuckstick and what the offender did? You aren't the police so shut the fuck up. Yeah it's everybody else's fault but ones own. Personal responsibility doesn't exist in your world apparently. Whether he should've been shot or not is not the issue. The issue is we have a culture that does what it wants, when it wants, and doesn't seem to have to listen or respect authority. There is a common denominator with all, backup...most incidents in society. Its obvious but noone wants to address it head on. Dude was the aggressor, he caused the situation. He dictated the terms. Your talking about mentally engaging these jagoffs? Yeah the police are trained in that too these days. Some shitheads can't be talked down. Fact. When your high on pcp explain to me how it's done big shot? Your tired? I'm tired of the blatant disrespect for the law and for other citizens. I'm tired of broke asses like yourself walking around with the entitlement badge on. I'm tired of all the politics. I'm tired of all the poor me, cry me a river racists. I'm tired of people like you that believe everything written or said in the media is gospel. Wake up little fella. The world we live in is full of bad people but you only hear about certain incidents when it's in the paper or on the news. Many don't make it on the news or in the paper. Most cops deal with the public respectfully and professionally. But you wouldn't know anything about that because you're probably trying to suck your own dick in your mommas basement. You and people like you want the police to just stand by while you wreak havoc amongst the community. And for the most part it's happening right now. This is what you all wanted. And it doesnt mean the police arent doing their job. Their job does not require them to be proactive. They are only required to answer their calls and write paper if necessary. The public has gotten so used to the police proactively working the streets that they expect it. That is not the case any longer. Times have changed. And what they are doing now is doing their job just not to your satisfaction. I hope you never need the police dipshit. Maybe just maybe they'll be too busy staying fetal. And then slowly drive to your location because they don't want to drive fast and get hit by some ass monkey speeding and going through stop signs 'n shit. They don't want to run a red light and get accused of abusing their power. And then once they finally arrive, hopefully your not dead and they will give you a report to make you feel all better. The offender probably won't be on scene any longer but that's okay because he wouldn't have listened to us anyways and they may have had to use verbal judo on him. There are instances where an offender doesn't have to be armed for us to shoot. But I'm not going to get into all that with you. You know everything. In this climate its not wise to but if it warrants such action then so be it. Hopefully it's justifiable and the officer's are safe. Seems like you know everything already on how to be the police and how they should do their job. Do us all a favor and go back to bashing the police on copblock. Nobody cares what you have to say. Heard it all before. I suppose your one that also thinks the police shouldnt have healthcare or a pension. They are mere perks for dealing with douchebags like you. Fuck ya very much and happy new year bitch.
PS: you're gay.

WELL SAID, MY BROTHER OR SISTER IN BLUE

God Bless...........

1/03/2017 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Hopefully it's justifiable and the officer's are safe."

Might want to brush up on pages 141& 142 in your FOP Book.

1/03/2017 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

[QUOTE]
Rather than slamming them down and wrestling and dogpiling (and then shooting?) these guys, why not corral them and wait them out? Why not break them down MENTALLY and make them cuff up willingly, well as willingly as it gets in such a situation, like in jail? Of course this won't work in all situations, and to an extent you guys already do this, but why take the bait these fools keep laying out for you to take - only to have the "no gun was found" drama?

If it take an hour telling a guy he has no choice but to cuff up and take his arrest like a man, heck if it takes three, what is the beef with it? See, on the street getting beat down form the po po is like a badge of honor. You guys think you got your job done effectively according to training, but all you really did was feed the ammunition belts of the BLM freaks and the media whores. What are they going to write about when you patiently wait out a guy who ran, got chased into a no escape situation and had to willingly give up. Better yet, what is gonna brag about to his homies? That he just gave in, that he punked out and didn't fight back?

Hey cops, the force avilable to you but which you do not use is the most effective. Think it over, I envision LOTS of stories where cops are having their time taken up by the punk who refuses to cuff up. Heck, you will have people BEGGING you to stop the waiting around and BEGGING you to"do something". Seriously, add it to your fetal play. It stands to gain you so much if you folks add it in and just wait them out!
1/02/2017 06:19:00 PM

This is a situation where there was no time to "wait out" the offender. 1) There were injured officers who needed immediate medical treatment. Those injured officers are delayed their medical treatment until the offender is in custody and no longer able to cause further physical harm to others.

2) It is not easy to contain a scene and wait out an offender when it is an outdoor scene, where escape is easier and officers have little cover. Keep in mind, this is an offender who is armed with a weapon that can kill (his vehicle) after already using it to commit physical harm on officers.

3) How hard is it to contain an offender who is in possession of a vehicle, and has already proven to drive on sidewalks to escape custody? The officers need immediate action to prevent further such driving by the offender and protect life.

1/03/2017 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...
The "unarmed" and the "no gun" narrative is pretty tired, but so too is a guy being shot over some traffic crap. Ok fair enough, he ran. Hey cops, some of your buddies )and especially your superiors, have a LOT of people scared that they are going to be shot over something as trivial as traffic stops. They really do fear being shot because they didn't answer certain bogus questions properly enough or fast enough or heck if they sneeze while being questioned. It is absolutely true that the vast majority of that fear is irrational. But you know what? Some of that fear is legit. Should they run? Of course not! But i have an idea for you, something along the lines of staying fetal.

Rather than slamming them down and wrestling and dogpiling (and then shooting?) these guys, why not corral them and wait them out? Why not break them down MENTALLY and make them cuff up willingly, well as willingly as it gets in such a situation, like in jail? Of course this won't work in all situations, and to an extent you guys already do this, but why take the bait these fools keep laying out for you to take - only to have the "no gun was found" drama?

If it take an hour telling a guy he has no choice but to cuff up and take his arrest like a man, heck if it takes three, what is the beef with it? See, on the street getting beat down form the po po is like a badge of honor. You guys think you got your job done effectively according to training, but all you really did was feed the ammunition belts of the BLM freaks and the media whores. What are they going to write about when you patiently wait out a guy who ran, got chased into a no escape situation and had to willingly give up. Better yet, what is gonna brag about to his homies? That he just gave in, that he punked out and didn't fight back?

Hey cops, the force avilable to you but which you do not use is the most effective. Think it over, I envision LOTS of stories where cops are having their time taken up by the punk who refuses to cuff up. Heck, you will have people BEGGING you to stop the waiting around and BEGGING you to"do something". Seriously, add it to your fetal play. It stands to gain you so much if you folks add it in and just wait them out!
1/02/2017 06:19:00 PM

Ah, another academic who knows nothing about policing, but presumes to lecture the police on how it should be done. Gotta love the self-proclaimed 'expert'.

First, the irrational fear of the 'police shooting you if you sneeze' can be laid at the feet of the hyperdramatic media. Lecture them to stop their pursuit of the almighty dollar and tell the truth, instead of blaring false Enguirer-like headlines.

And, wherever you got your 'cuff-up' phrase, put it back there and never revisit it. You sound unutterably stupid whenever you use it.

1/03/2017 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding 1/02/2017 06:19:00 PM:

Nice post, Rahm. Now get back to your fucking SHINE BOX.

1/03/2017 10:23:00 PM  

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