Walking Guns
An amusing bit of information coming in from the scene of 019's double fatal shooting:
- Despite there being spent brass all over the place from extensive use of both weapons, no gun was located on or near either individual. It seems a concerned citizen walked up on the carnage, pocketed both guns, and disappeared into the night.
That is typical Chicago. And it points to the fact that "guns walk" away from crime scenes by means of other offenders, accomplices or someone just out looking for an opportunity for something to steal.
And this happens at shootings where someone points a gun at the police and then passes the gun along when he ducks out of sight. Or it gets picked up by some third party when pitched by an offender. Opportunities abound for mischief....we're just saying.
And this happens at shootings where someone points a gun at the police and then passes the gun along when he ducks out of sight. Or it gets picked up by some third party when pitched by an offender. Opportunities abound for mischief....we're just saying.
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
82 Comments:
We'll said SCc, hopefully this will help the sergeant out.
Off Topic
Hanhardt
Might have been a nice guy, but he was a crook.
Confidence men are typically nice guys, but they are crooks.
All those burglaries and homicides he cleared up, handed to him by the mob.
Enough said.
BLM will never buy that story
The guns did not walk away.
These two upstanding citizens were unarmed when they were shot by the super ninja secret Chicago police unit.
The police made it look like a two person shooting because of Top Secret reasons.
Top Secret reasons we can't tell you.
/s
I swear I heard him say, "Leave the gun, take the cannoli."
Or was it the other way around.
Speaking of "guns", shots fired in the central business district and areas around the mag mile have now become common place but one over the past weekend took it up a notch. Seems someone took out a window on the 38th floor of the 150 N. Michigan Ave building with a high powered rifle, possibly a 308 by the looks of the found round. And from the trajectory indicated by the holes left behind, the shot probably came from an adjacent high rise. Pres Trump might want to avoid his name sake building in our wonderful sanctuary city for a while as it seems it is also in the line of sight of the suspected building where the round came from. Target practice anyone?
Most likely exactly what happened in the shooting in Englewood in which the Sgt. has been stripped because FatHeadEd was "concerned"
It don't matter. Perception is everything. Coppers will be crucified while the shitbags will prevail. Worst part of this case? ETs and Dicks handing the scene won't see a single court date. That is the ONLY tradgedy from that incident.
Wow
It was just a "city crisis responder," doing his duty and helping to "get guns off the street."
Am I right? Huh?
Anyway, it would appear that the new hatred of the police has now broadened to include hatred of the military.
Attacked for serving his country: Soldier, 19, was beaten by '15 men who spotted his army jacket' - just days after a kind-hearted stranger flew him home to spend Christmas with his widowed mom
* Austin Freni, 19, was attacked by a gang in Philadelphia on Sunday, his mom said
* She said they mocked his Army jacket just before the assault occurred
* He will need to have his jaw wired shut and plates put in it, she added
* Freni had been flown to his mom's in New Jersey from his base in Georgia
* A stranger had paid for the ticket after coming across a GoFundMe account
* He was due to fly to the Middle East in the New Year
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4082872/Soldier-Austin-Freni-s-jaw-shattered-10-15-men-attacked-army-jacket-Philadelphia.html
This only proves that "gun violence" is real! Those 2 weapons planned this shooting, showed up at the scene, killed these young Rhoda's Scholars, and took off.
Trib: "Two Unarmed Men were Killed Shooting at an Unarmed Man"
Anonymous said...
How is a female from 011 in fto class when she failed her three cycles and failed a fourth remedial cycle? How can a person be an fto when they've never passed a cycle themselves?
1/02/2017 09:49:00 PM
Are you surprised? You would think the FTO section would've caught this.
SCC: Everything of value walks in the hood. I've seen copper plumbing systems in buildings we are constructing take a walk overnight and are long gone when we return the next morning. Hell, I have had tools take a hike on me when I am inside working and come out for lunch. At least the truck is still there, most times. I hate working in that shit hole with its "Chicago Values" but its PREMIUM pay and as long people over pay me I will work there.
Heck a gun disappears at a crime scene? It is no surprise a moron would rather have the gun than a tape measure he is too stupid to read or sell to another moron who cannot read it. (Good work CPS) People with "Chicago Values" are for sure ignorant but they are not that ignorant.
Take the gun, leave the tape measure and my canolli.
Hold everything!! We now have proof that the anti-gun folks are right.
Two previously law abiding guns went rogue and escaped from their secure storage place, loaded themselves and then made their way to Uptown. They managed to murder two upstanding citizens before scampering away and returning home.
They likely unloaded and cleaned themselves to avoid arousing suspicion too.
Thank goodness they weren't those evil, black ghost rifles with million round capacity clip magazines that can fire a thousand bullets in a half a second!!
Can we do a "No Confidence" already? How many other cops will have to be stripped and face horrible circumstances on and off duty before the rest of us care? Nowadays we are having more off duty incidents because no one cares about our profession anymore. Before we were respected, now we are really struggling. We must unite or nothing will be accomplished. We are in state of crisis.
Those guns aren't just walking away... they're wearing felony fliers and running away.
Dies Special Ed know this?
No brainer.. A gun is very valuable on the street. Worth more than a life even. Liberals don't understand the ghetto or its mentality. They don't have to live there. They can force their beliefs onto others and make people suffer. Just like the ACLU and the ISR. Oh well, looks like no changes are on the books in '17 regarding that so another 700 it shall be.
Thanks for sharing this SCC.
We all know the Rahm Emmanuel controlled media will not highlight this fact.
Oh come on SCC, really!?!?!!
Next you'll tell me the Cubs won the world series...
These gang bangers murdered an innocent unarmed teen ready to turn his life around... the families are getting ready to sue, too bad no deep pockets this time BWHAHHAHAAH
There's a saying "guns don't bounce twice in the ghetto"
Probably picked up by a concerned citizen of the community who's going to bring it to the Police Station as "Found property"... then when it's not picked up by the owner, he can have it after 7 days... right?
OR, you know all that brass was already there, dem two guys was out clownin' and both had heart attacks due to dehydration, and just fell in the brass... nevr wus no gun - nope, no way Officer....
The walking gun... sounds like a TV series. A regular person will never understand this phenomenon. Don't forget calling out the fire department for guns tossed on factory roofs and residential home roofs too. But, what do you or I know.
This is a weird one, spy vs. spy inside that joint. But don't worry 019th District residents, I saw your Commander on TV, soon all 019 District Officers will have body cameras. That should help.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We'll said SCc, hopefully this will help the sergeant out.
1/03/2017 12:13:00 AM
No, it won't.
That sergeant in 007 was a stupid ass and he justly deserves whatever happens to him. He was responding to a call of a battery in progress and then one subject runs away and decides to chase him. Everyone else just scattered and ran away also. Now you tell me, was that a smart move on his part? Even if he caught the dude, what is he going to charge him with? Surely the "victim" is probably long gone and even if the "victim" was found, chances are, the "victim" won't sign complaints and will engage in some street justice.
And before you use the excuse of "well he was just doing his job" reply- let me address that. The playing rules for us police officers has changed considerably. If someone told you that the rules of the game were changed for the benefit of the other team at your expense and you are at a huge disadvantage then a smart person would not even step on to the playing field.
Yet despite it all, some officers still engage in foot chases, vehicle chases, arresting dude for the usual bullshit, etc. Go ahead dummies, keep at it.
This only proves that "gun violence" is real! Those 2 weapons planned this shooting, showed up at the scene, killed these young Rhoda's Scholars, and took off.
1/03/2017 04:53:00 AM
Did you know Rhoda was a character on the Mary Tyler Moore show from 1970 until 1974. She was a native New Yorker living in Mary's Minneapolis apartment building. Rhoda's character moved back to New York for the spinoff series that lasted 5 seasons. I'm a Rhoda scholar too.
OT
George Lucas definitely isn't building his museum here.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-lucas-museum-cliffhanger-la-san-francisco-064956957--finance.html
My guess is he picks Frisco, where his museum will initially be popular, and then achieve a tragic unfashionability in isolation.
https://www.google.com/amp/chicago.suntimes.com/news/sunday-sitdown-with-richard-wooten-newly-retired-chicago-cop
obviously they weren't shot in the first place.
Fathead GED is looking for someone to strip....."for their own good".
Call the nypd for advice on how to handle this!
I'm going back some years ago, when my partner was involved in an off-duty shooting. He was walking back to his vehicle from a 7-11 when an armed robbery approached with gun in hand and demanded money. After taking cover, he was able to shot and kill the offender. He requested bystanders to call 911 and protected the scene. Prior to the police arriving, he had to threaten three different people who were trying to grab the gun of the offender. This is so common I'm surprised that Sgt. who shot the offender he said had a gun is not being given the benefit of a doubt.
maybe it was one guy with six guns?
Channel 5 needs to hire qualified reporters
F/B reporter describes a armed violent home invasion , sexual assault that occurred in Bucktown on Sunday at 11:00pm
She asks for help from community to call area north detectives with any information
She was unable to provide any information about offender , no age , height,weight facial hair , hair color or Race .
Again are citizens of Chicago to assume all armed violent criminals are black or is she just an unqualified news reporter taking a job from a more qualified investigative reporter .
FOP Angelo. Please go on WVOV, WGCI, and WCPT radio stations and speak about this issue. (Guns missing from crime scenes.)
Attacked for serving his country: Soldier, 19, was beaten by '15 men who spotted his army jacket' - just days after a kind-hearted stranger flew him home to spend Christmas with his widowed mom
+++++
Disgusting. There are many stories like this (the knockout games and group attack - ever notice the victim vs offender demographics? No no no, don't talk about that, let's talk about the dangerous and racist white people. Guarantee national news won't pick up the story. If it was the other way around, of course they would.
Special Ed can tout thousand of guns recovered last year.
If the media had any integrity they would report this phenomenon of disappearing weaponry. But they don't.
They are still on the obama Anti-Police bandwagon, same as the mayor.
I'm sure some b-l-m allied alderstooge or columnist is certain that this double murder was perpetrated by racist Police, that's why there's no evidence. Morons of the media will buy that theory rather than do any investigative journalism.
Trib was quick to report yesterday that two UNARMED folks were killed by Police to start the New Year.
They decry that 780 murders were committed on the underserved streets, but fail to mention that many of those dead were almost certain to be Unarmed thugs contributing to the violence. There was mention some dead thugs were on Special Ed's 1400 SSL Club, but then at that rate, half should be dead by now, right? By Special Ed's rational that's a 50% reduction.
I say so what as long as we remain safe, It's Rahm Emanuels problem, gun or no gun recovered and no arrests... is all on him.
GMac once told a grad group that we crime fighters should abstain from the attitude of "It's us against them".
True, in fact now or for the past 8 years it's been Them against Us.
Stay safe.
Anonymous said...
Off Topic
Hanhardt
Might have been a nice guy, but he was a crook.
Confidence men are typically nice guys, but they are crooks.
All those burglaries and homicides he cleared up, handed to him by the mob.
Enough said.
1/03/2017 12:30:00 AM
Agreed. I can have respect for someone who did wrong and then genuinely worked hard to turn their life around.
I have NO respect for someone who uses their position and 'good standing' to undertake a criminal career.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
How is a female from 011 in fto class when she failed her three cycles and failed a fourth remedial cycle? How can a person be an fto when they've never passed a cycle themselves?
1/02/2017 09:49:00 PM
Are you surprised? You would think the FTO section would've caught this.
1/03/2017 06:18:00 AM
How is she in FTO class? How about how is she even the police???
Soooooo Trump is gonna put the screws to Rahminator on the Murder rate here . God how much fun is that gonna be , now ya gotta get Trump the stats from the Crook County Court system and maybe HIS DOJ could look into that mess
Englewood has young men that would steal a gun used by a thug running from police ?
You saying all the thriving businesses on Halsted during the 40,50,60's closed because of Racism and not thefts and robbery from the new residents in the late 60 , early 70's . No way .
Maybe the news 5 hag carol marin can tell that exclusive story from her sources.
Off-Topic.
Has any CPD retiree, who decided to pay for the BC/BS medical insurance previously subsidized by the city, received a new benefits card?
Anonymous said...
We'll said SCc, hopefully this will help the sergeant out.
1/03/2017 12:13:00 AM
Would it? You must know something rest of us do not.
VRI gone tomorrow along with other changes. Press conference at 35th tomorrow.
Mccarthy please leave Chicago, can't stand you're cry baby show on tv!
Just heard a call of shots fired from a car go out in 011, black chevy cruise, tossed something out of the car at around Roosevelt & California - bet whatever was tossed gets up and walks away too, definitely not picked up by the people (or folk) on that corner. And the gentleman who was shot by the passing car must have just fallen on a bullet.
It don't matter. Perception is everything. Coppers will be crucified while the shitbags will prevail. Worst part of this case? ETs and Dicks handing the scene won't see a single court date. That is the ONLY tradgedy from that incident.
I agree. These days it DOESN'T matter what really happened. It only matters how it looks.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
How is a female from 011 in fto class when she failed her three cycles and failed a fourth remedial cycle? How can a person be an fto when they've never passed a cycle themselves?
1/02/2017 09:49:00 PM
Are you surprised? You would think the FTO section would've caught this.
1/03/2017 06:18:00 AM
CLOUT
. Gary McCarthy was found “guilty” in March 2006 over an traffic altercation he had in 2005 with two New Jersey police officers. A traffic court judge ruled that Gary McCarthy had blocked vehicular traffic with his police-issued car while he and his wife confronted two plainclothes members of the Palisades Interstate Police at a gas station along the Palisades Interstate Parkway. The officers in question had just issued a summons to McCarthy’s 19-year-old daughter, who was driving another car and became verbally confrontational toward the two police officers whom in essence were enforcing the law. When Gary McCarthy had arrived on scene he was clearly irate and violently confrontational and had to be grabbed by the two police officers whom also confiscated McCarthy’s firearm and handcuffed him as well as restrained his wife when she attempted to grab the gun from the two police officers. The judge fined McCarthy $200 for blocking traffic.
McCarthy’s wife Regina – was charged with “unreasonable noise” – when she verbally abused and cursed at the Palisades Park Police during the entire incident. Most disturbing is the fact that she had attempted to retrieve Gary McCarthy’s confiscated firearm from an Official Police Vehicle while Gary McCarthy was fighting with one officer. Regina McCarthy had to be physically thrown to the ground as she fought with the officer over the firearm and rear cuffed face down on the ground. My question is what was her intention if she had obtained complete control of that weapon which was a 9mm handgun? Was she going to shoot the officers, break Gary McCarthy free, or just hold the officers at gun point? That is a very, very, frightening thought to comprehend!
Umm... they were holding theirs hands with their thumb and finger like a gun yelling bang bang.
This is of topic, sorry about that, but I think every city employee should know and check into it. MY wife went to doctor's office with the kids, when doctor's office called blue cross blue shields to verify the coverage, they were told that we are not covered by blue cross blue shields and that city dropped thousands city employees and now they are trying to fix it but for the time being my family is not covered, but the city is still taking money from my paycheck.
Just heard the sup is having a big news conference at 35th tomorrow with the class of detectives that are there right now. Laying out his 2017 plans which includes more hiring and THE CANCELLATION OF VRI!
Where the Hell do they think we get the guns we plant on everybody???
Sheeesh...
"I'm going back some years ago, when my partner was involved in an off-duty shooting. He was walking back to his vehicle from a 7-11 when an armed robbery approached with gun in hand and demanded money. After taking cover, he was able to shot and kill the offender. He requested bystanders to call 911 and protected the scene. Prior to the police arriving, he had to threaten three different people who were trying to grab the gun of the offender. This is so common I'm surprised that Sgt. who shot the offender he said had a gun is not being given the benefit of a doubt.
1/03/2017 11:24:00 AM"
I'm going to call bullshit on that one, any one with 1/2 Brain in their skull would've recovered the weapon. I know from 1st hand experience.
" Freni had been flown to his mom's in New Jersey from his base in Georgia
* A stranger had paid for the ticket after coming across a GoFundMe account
* He was due to fly to the Middle East in the New Year
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4082872/Soldier-Austin-Freni-s-jaw-shattered-10-15-men-attacked-army-jacket-Philadelphia.html"
More to that story. The photo in the article shows hims festooned without 5grand worth of tattoo work?
Just heard the sup is having a big news conference at 35th tomorrow with the class of detectives that are there right now. Laying out his 2017 plans which includes more hiring and THE CANCELLATION OF VRI!
1/03/2017 07:16:00 PM
AND...
BIG CHANGES FRIDAY!!!
also, Seiser runs it!
Anonymous said...
OT
George Lucas definitely isn't building his museum here.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-lucas-museum-cliffhanger-la-san-francisco-064956957--finance.html
My guess is he picks Frisco, where his museum will initially be popular, and then achieve a tragic unfashionability in isolation.
1/03/2017 10:16:00 AM
Old news.
Very old news.
Great, cancel VRI and you will see 1000 murders this year. When it happens you would think it would be a call to revamp the entire command staff of the CPD.
"... but I think every city employee should know and check into it. MY wife went to doctor's office with the kids, when doctor's office called blue cross blue shields to verify the coverage, they were told that we are not covered by blue cross blue shields and that city dropped thousands city employees ..."
– check your mailbox. Letter sent out by City reminding Sworn to check coverage if many changes made from BC PPO to HMO or vice versa. If retired 55-63 Plan, your Group # was changed. Med offices normally just keep resubmitting bill. Don't take the word of a an office clerk either, could be phishing for some of your numbers for a bit of ID fraud. It's the simplest way to get them. Yes, even the big Med Ctrs have to hire without background checks.
The days of having leaders within the department are long gone. This new crop of yes bosses have one agenda and that's their own pension raise. A bunch of yes bosses who will do whatever it takes to keep their spot in grade or say anything to get to the next level up.
Good luck police officers. You are the sacrificial lambs.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
How is a female from 011 in fto class when she failed her three cycles and failed a fourth remedial cycle? How can a person be an fto when they've never passed a cycle themselves?
1/02/2017 09:49:00 PM
Are you surprised? You would think the FTO section would've caught this.
1/03/2017 06:18:00 AM
CLOUT
1/03/2017 05:08:00 PM
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It's the department the bosses want. You just stay safe and away from her. She'll get eaten this summer. The citizen doesn't care she's the police let alone an FTO.
Just remember you're not fetal. You are just following the laws and General Orders as the lawyers and bosses have beaten them into you.
Anonymous said...
Channel 5 needs to hire qualified reporters
F/B reporter describes a armed violent home invasion , sexual assault that occurred in Bucktown on Sunday at 11:00pm
She asks for help from community to call area north detectives with any information
She was unable to provide any information about offender , no age , height,weight facial hair , hair color or Race .
Again are citizens of Chicago to assume all armed violent criminals are black or is she just an unqualified news reporter taking a job from a more qualified investigative reporter .
1/03/2017 12:02:00 PM
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Not her fault. She's just a mouth piece. A clog in the wheel paid to say whatever her bosses tell her to say. All the good reporters died along time ago.
AARP granny is leaving to oakland good riddance
Recover a weapon from a guy you just shot. Absolutely not. Unless someone is just about to steal it, leave it where it lands. Secure scene have crime lab photo and recover.
While in headquarters today, I overheard the superintendent ask if a walking gun is similar to a walking taco.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/01/03/mayor-of-oakland-names-new-oakland-police-chief/
Granny clampett is gone
Glad to hear they are cancelling VRI. What a waste that was. Right Billay?
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/01/03/cpd-official-in-charge-of-professional-standards-is-leaving-after-six-months/
The only thing walking away is me from this City!!
>>> Anonymous Anonymous said...
"I'm going back some years ago, when my partner was involved in an off-duty shooting. He was walking back to his vehicle from a 7-11 when an armed robbery approached with gun in hand and demanded money. After taking cover, he was able to shot and kill the offender. He requested bystanders to call 911 and protected the scene. Prior to the police arriving, he had to threaten three different people who were trying to grab the gun of the offender. This is so common I'm surprised that Sgt. who shot the offender he said had a gun is not being given the benefit of a doubt.
1/03/2017 11:24:00 AM"
I'm going to call bullshit on that one, any one with 1/2 Brain in their skull would've recovered the weapon. I know from 1st hand experience.
1/03/2017 07:48:00 PM <<<
First hand experience from what? If you pick up the weapon they will say you planted the weapon and you put your DNA on it. Stand over it, gun drawn star visible and hope to God you hear what the nuns in my elementary school called, "Count your blessings sirens".
Studies have shown that officers in plain clothes are safer if they have their badge visible at chest level, on a vest or neck chain rather than on a belt carrier. This helps avoid blue on blue fire incidents.
Off-Topic.
Has any CPD retiree, who decided to pay for the BC/BS medical insurance previously subsidized by the city, received a new benefits card?
1/03/2017 04:03:00 PM
Yes, I have received both my BCBS Supplement Plan F card and my RX Premium Plan+ card. It will be easier to switch back and get bills paid if we win our case than if I was to have that AETNA plan Dean Angelo was selling. I wouldn't trust anything he was selling.
Now if we could just get President Trump to restore our full Social Security Benefits.
They threw the bullets at each other
Anonymous said...
Channel 5 needs to hire qualified reporters
F/B reporter describes a armed violent home invasion , sexual assault that occurred in Bucktown on Sunday at 11:00pm
She asks for help from community to call area north detectives with any information
She was unable to provide any information about offender , no age , height,weight facial hair , hair color or Race .
Again are citizens of Chicago to assume all armed violent criminals are black or is she just an unqualified news reporter taking a job from a more qualified investigative reporter .
1/03/2017 12:02:00 PM
Wow. Can you be that naive? City Hall controls the news media and have for a long time now.
Only white offenders are to be described,lest vast minority voting blocks be offended.
Off-Topic.
Has any CPD retiree, who decided to pay for the BC/BS medical insurance previously subsidized by the city, received a new benefits card?
Active officers received a letter stating, " the cards are on the way." Typical city can't do anything on time.
onymous said...
"I'm going back some years ago, when my partner was involved in an off-duty shooting. He was walking back to his vehicle from a 7-11 when an armed robbery approached with gun in hand and demanded money. After taking cover, he was able to shot and kill the offender. He requested bystanders to call 911 and protected the scene. Prior to the police arriving, he had to threaten three different people who were trying to grab the gun of the offender. This is so common I'm surprised that Sgt. who shot the offender he said had a gun is not being given the benefit of a doubt.
1/03/2017 11:24:00 AM"
I'm going to call bullshit on that one, any one with 1/2 Brain in their skull would've recovered the weapon. I know from 1st hand experience.
1/03/2017 07:48:00 PM
I was the first car on the scene and secured the weapon. The copper I think was in a little shock and thought picking up the gun would contaminate the scene. Above is correct, he was acting stupid.
How is a female from 011 in fto class when she failed her three cycles and failed a fourth remedial cycle? How can a person be an fto when they've never passed a cycle themselves?
1/02/2017 09:49:00 PM
Nope shes just an idiot and cant even literally tie her shoes. She however would be a hell of a preacher as she carries her bible and preaches to the ost souls that other police bring into 011. Thank God shes going to 3rd watch
30 pending and what said...
How is a female from 011 in fto class when she failed her three cycles and failed a fourth remedial cycle? How can a person be an fto when they've never passed a cycle themselves?
1/02/2017 09:49:00 PM
Nope shes just an idiot and cant even literally tie her shoes. She however would be a hell of a preacher as she carries her bible and preaches to the ost souls that other police bring into 011. Thank God shes going to 3rd watch
1/04/2017 12:36:00 PM
Who's more dangerous?
This one?
Or the one who came to work with the pieces of her
field stripped pistol in a plastic grocery bag?
Or the one who admitted that she never carried her pistol
with a round chambered because she was afraid Dude would
get it and use it on her?
Watch Commanders were aware and kept trying to put them
on beat cars so they could have a baby-sitter instead of
initiating the process to get them removed from the job.
So damned difficult getting unfit/unsound people off this job.
Maybe if background investigators and their supervisors
are made to wear the shirt for these people getting through.
But then again, vigorous pre-employment screening
is "racist" and unfair.
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