Thursday, April 27, 2017

Is There a Policy Yet?

  • Body cams are on the way to becoming as common equipment for police as batons and bullets. They’re sold to the public as a tool to improve accountability. But community activists are increasingly pushing back against police department policies that allow officers to view their cop cam video before writing their reports, even when force is used.

    “They may look for some reason to make the interaction within policy or a legal interaction in the first place,” said Fe Lopez, executive director of the Seattle Community Police Commission.

    [...]

    Among the changes aimed at improving officer conduct and transparency, every officer will be outfitted with a body cam. But the city and its court-appointed police monitor are battling in federal court over Seattle’s policy to let officers view the video before writing reports in all but the most serious use of force cases. In a court brief, monitor Merrick Bobb wrote: “Officers may get an inappropriate opportunity to ‘get their story straight’”

    Harlan Yu of Upturn Research has been studying body cameras and says they are not living up to the public’s expectations. “What Seattle and other police departments across the country are doing right now is creating an uneven playing field where officers get a structural advantage where they get to view footage and other eyewitnesses don’t,” Yu said.
God forbid you actually see a recording before making statements that might be used by armchair quarterbacks to judge an encounter that unfolds in tenths-of-seconds. Here's the issue we see with cameras:
  • the camera is pointed in a fixed direction - it doesn't swivel around like your head would in a dynamic situation;
  • the camera will be used to skew your interpretations of events - any deviation from something interpreted months later will be used to Rule 14 you and fire you;
  • anything missed by the camera will automatically be called a "cover-up" and used to impeach testimony, recollections, interpretations and the bottom feeding lawyers will claim every omission was deliberate, thereby smearing you and tainting all future testimony.
 We see that all the time already with in-car cameras - why believe, even for a second, that body camera footage (or lack of) will be treated any differently?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put it in the glove box

4/27/2017 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting side note. In New York City Civil liberty lawyers are trying to slow down the implementation of the officer cameras. Seems that they are afraid they will not show the progressive view of the racist police violating minority rights but the actual behavior in certain communities. Can't have the truth out in public can we. Their "official" concern is the violation of peoples civil rights by the videoing of the people by the police.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/16/nyregion/new-york-body-cameras-police-civil-rights.html?_r=1#story-continues-1

Moral of the story to the liberals: Be careful of what you wish for.

4/27/2017 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When on the stand in court you're allowed to review documents to refresh your recollection, why should it be any different when writing reports or giving statements. You're basically giving testimony as to what happened and you want it to be accurate. End of story.

4/27/2017 12:44:00 AM  
Blogger Transmaster said...

I have watched a lot of these videos, many of them on Colin Flaherty's "Don't Make The Black Kids Angry" YouTube channel. The imaging I am seeing are up to interpretation by somebody with an anti-cop agenda. The technology exists that would go along way to fixing this problem. There are autonomous drones that are programed to follow someone around who are carrying a digital transponder link to them. Such drones follow above and with HD cameras that see everything even at night. Inside buildings a camera that is located in the position on a helmet such as is used in the US Military would be the best it would see what the policemen is seeing. Of course this will never happen.

4/27/2017 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any good arbitrator would rule in favor of looking at the video first

Just goes to show you what the body cams are for, to fuck over police, not aid in their investigations and interactions

4/27/2017 04:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is not about getting one's story straight. It is about the opportunity for Defense Attorneys to have impeachable material. If the Body Cam shows what happened and the reports do not vary from what is in the video, they have less of an opportunity to attack the credibility of the officers in the incident. THEY have less wiggle room. It is only recently that defense attorneys do not want officers to be allowed to view video. They really believed the cameras would catch bad cops, but what they are finding is that the videos are more often catching bad clients and with corroborating video, their ability to provide a defense and plant doubt goes away with camera footage and corresponding reports. It looks like THEY are less effective and it is in their best interests to be able to play gotcha.

4/27/2017 05:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have said this from the beginning that Body cameras are a huge HUGE HUGE invasion on privacy on officers, victims, witnesses and ordinary citizens. Its shocking that F O P and Deano and his crew were pushing these things and shocking that the majority of the public don't see how crucial and necessary the privacy between victims, witnesses, general public and cops is. This transparency Buzz bullshit is just a political, profit of money and votes and nothing more. Since when do cops or military have to be "transparent" 100% to a public that is exploiting that advantage. Its called a tactical advantage, we used to have, no more. Welcome criminals, sorry victims, you are not important any longer. Just as I don't tell a heart surgeon how to perform a surgery, why does Joe Citizen know everything about policing without attending a 6 month police academy. But I suppose everyone knows how to do a job better than the professional, doing it with zero experience or education in the field. Besides why does Chicago media obsess and obsess and obsess over police locally, its like a sick fetish of theirs, its as if they have no other material to investigate.........how about the corruption behind the mayor's desk for last 100 years? ! Look the other way, huh......

4/27/2017 05:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait! Cops watching replay to fine tune their
written reports? Kind of brings to mind (when stated
on this blog) that most participants of a testing class had
to take a bathroom break at the same time (hey, what was
that answer on #15?).
Defense lawyers are going to rip to shreds cop testimony if
they can prove the officer had access to replay footage and sound.

4/27/2017 06:05:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

Seattle coming up with a fair policy? Maybe there is hope for them yet.

4/27/2017 06:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about a helmet cam? Like a pod, it can view all around.

4/27/2017 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Assumed guilty before even getting out of the car. Just don't get out of the car, code the job, and drive away. Last time I go Seattle.

4/27/2017 06:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

re: Harlan Yu, Upturn Research
Check out: Upturn (Team Upturn)
You will see a smiling Harlan Yu, Ph.D.
So now geeks and nerds are running the show?
Accepted wisdom is that cops need to be brought up to
speed on the digital future. Mr. Yu is not worthy to shine
your shoes. Anybody want to take him on a ride around?
I didn't think so.

4/27/2017 06:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every officer will be assigned to a drone. The drone will hover over you recording your entire shift.

4/27/2017 06:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Me thinks the honorable Bobbie Rush (D) traffic stop video should be resurrected. This should be used as a national training video for law enforcement departments. We can see how irrefutable video evidence caught on camera of statutory traffic offenses which would result in citations for anyone else, somehow is overlooked for powerful politicians. The childish, immature, unprofessional behavior would be on display by one of those guys who write the laws but cannot follow the laws of the land. The public wants to exonerate and not sustain the time tested sterotypical allegations of unprofessional conduct by officers. His privilaged political status has shielded him from transparency and public review of his actions.

Release rhe video already. Bobbie Rush has effectively covered up his conduct to demean law enforcement and to suppress video evidence of his traffic crimes. If a video of a law enforcement officer committing traffic offenses were somehow not released the media, community activists and assorted radicals would advance the notion of a coverup. Double standard?

4/27/2017 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all, Merrick Bobb is a self-aggrandizing nitwit.

Secondly, this isn't a game of "gotcha," it's an attempt at recording what happened from the officer's perspective.

4/27/2017 06:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Simple solution. Due to the stress and trauma of the incident I am unable to recall what actions I took at this time. If I were to view the video it would give me insight, until then I do not recall.

4/27/2017 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm and his alderthieves should be required to wear body cameras and take random drug tests.

4/27/2017 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police departments across the country will be destroyed by this. Recruiting and retention will be fubar as officers see their coworkers lives ruined and quickly quit to do anything else. Those who stay will be paralyzed in fear and violent criminals will dominate the streets.

4/27/2017 07:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do I wear my bright yellow traffic vest with this thing?

4/27/2017 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) May this child rest in peace the people that did this all need to be put in prison for life what pieces of shit they are and who's going to pay for all of the police services the diverse group that search for this child they should pull any welfare from the scumbags that did this DCFS visited this home three hours before the child was found dead in the house obviously I would bet mama did it;

http://abc7chicago.com/news/1-year-old-girl-found-dead-in-her-joliet-township-home/1923260/

4/27/2017 07:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If only CPD were able to view the McDonald video prior to memorializing events on paper...

4/27/2017 07:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Follow the money..............

4/27/2017 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All report and arrest narratives should only state, "refer to body cam footage."

4/27/2017 07:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone that would volunteer to do anything approaching proactive police work in this environment is like a sheep happily being walked to the slaughter. Our own excuse of a mayor has said that he "does not believe in stop and frisk as an effective law enforcement strategy." So what will it take for officers to get the message? Police work is over in America, until there are fundamental social changes.

4/27/2017 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody else notice the last names of these "activists/commissioner/liaisons" are all foreign? I know I know we are all "immigrants." But, come on. I rarely, if ever, read an article where the "acticist's" last name is johnson. Or the aclu lawyers last name is McMann. They have been using our constitution against us. And it's been working very well. They want the criminal element to roam free as long as that element can vote. Simultaneously attacking and pussifying the very people (law enforcement) that protect the people. They have been loading the scale to one side.

4/27/2017 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

don't stop anybody give them what they deserve

4/27/2017 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank Commander Buslik formerly of 014 and then after the justice dept liason. Runner up is Dean Angelo Sr. PhD.

Yes, thank them. They both advanced the body camera.

Dean Jr. has already been thanked and for the record was on a "mission" team for Buslik at the time.

Please help us President Trump in this lawless sanctuary city.
The laws are crippling police enforcement which is benefitting the criminal class.

4/27/2017 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The bottom line to be taken from this is simple. The goofs who wanted body cameras was not for transparency. They wanted them to fire officers. Police view video footage all the time. Why can't they view footage that is attached to their uniform???? How is it unfair to view video footage to make sure reports are accurate????????

SCC you already hit the nail on the head about video. In the next year or two police won't be believed for anything unless its on video. Video has major flaws with camera angles and won't catch everything. Video will never catch furtive movements will on stops especially for traffic.

I've been doing this crap for 23 years. I can finally say I give up and stay fetal!!!!!

4/27/2017 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cameras can be good and bad. Camera footage does not "tell all". Single angle does not allow for all perspectives.

4/27/2017 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wasn't body cameras the idea of liberal democrats? What's the problem? Is the liberal democrat voter p.o.s. arrested for exactly what the police charged him/her with? Are the body cameras showing exactly what the police said he/she was doing?

Oh crap! Lets change the rules and find some way to impeach the police officer and keep the video from being admitted as evidence. I got a better idea. Lets put all those police body camera videos on YouTube and let all America see what the problem is!
No, can't do that. Can't shine a light on what the democrats want to keep in the dark.

J.J.

4/27/2017 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Start making Gorts. The robot from The Day the Earth Stood Still. End of story! (The original movie)

4/27/2017 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They want these videos suppressed because we now have the advantage over the criminal. Everything they say, can and will be used against them. The body cameras are making it easier for convictions, which means the police are winning. Which means these shady fucks on the sjw side are now mad that they will be doing time (unless it's cook county).

They don't want you to have access to the videos because they don't want a slam dunk conviction. By making us wear cameras, they fucked over the good, the bad and the ugly (pun intended)

4/27/2017 10:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ive started to actually enjoy the camera being on me. It proves that I'm not the asshole lying. They want to prevent you from being able to review your videos for accuracy. Well to them I say, tough titty assholes. You wanted it, you got it. Now smile fucker and let's go to jail.

4/27/2017 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can they record this idiocy?

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/04/26/uc-berkeley-gears-up-for-violent-protests-over-coulter-speech-cancellation/

Ann Coulter great person was going to speak but the snowflakes were upset and now she basically said "fuck it" and then they are doing this:UC Berkeley Gears Up For Violent Protests Over Coulter Speech Cancellation

Best thing to do is withhold all federal funding let it close up! california residents blame the elected morons who have restrained and neutered the police enjoy the "land of fruits and nuts!"


4/27/2017 10:11:00 AM  
Blogger BirdsnBlooms1 said...

Anonymous said...
Me thinks the honorable Bobbie Rush (D) traffic stop video should be resurrected. This should be used as a national training video for law enforcement departments. We can see how irrefutable video evidence caught on camera of statutory traffic offenses which would result in citations for anyone else, somehow is overlooked for powerful politicians. The childish, immature, unprofessional behavior would be on display by one of those guys who write the laws but cannot follow the laws of the land. The public wants to exonerate and not sustain the time tested sterotypical allegations of unprofessional conduct by officers. His privilaged political status has shielded him from transparency and public review of his actions.

Release rhe video already. Bobbie Rush has effectively covered up his conduct to demean law enforcement and to suppress video evidence of his traffic crimes. If a video of a law enforcement officer committing traffic offenses were somehow not released the media, community activists and assorted radicals would advance the notion of a coverup. Double standard?

4/27/2017 06:29:00 AM

Thankfully, the story was reported, officers cleared. Article/video available at WGN and Lib-Tune, Fox 32, etc.
The video should be shared by everyone, via Facebook,etc.

http://wgntv.com/2017/02/09/officers-cleared-of-accusations-of-racial-profiling-congressman/

4/27/2017 10:22:00 AM  
Blogger dc.sunsets said...

As a civilian, I now see that I court nothing but trouble if I act on any civil impulse to aid another citizen. Even if another citizen is under assault, even if (or especially if) I'm armed. It looks like this is the position political rulers want the police to geel. We're not going to like the result.

4/27/2017 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Bobby Rush video should be a training film
on how to deal with "Don't you know who I am?" clients.

4/27/2017 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A helmet cam would make more sense also maybe a backup cam when maneuvering backwards.

4/27/2017 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was recently attacked by an assailant and injured by such assailant while performing my duties. All caught on body cam. I welcome body cams as evidence that can, should and will be used to provide the trier of fact with accurate accounts of events. Trust me, lawyers do not want the police capturing their clients actions because as we all know , their clients actions are more outrageous then the police who serve and protect.

4/27/2017 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The SJWs and racebaiters will never be happy no matter what you do. Their entire existence revolves around victimhood. It is how they see everything. If allowed a say in the process, they will push and push and push form their demented viewpoint until the entire system falls apart. Detroit is a great example.

None of this will end unless the decent, law abiding citizens of all stripes and persuasions stand up, band together and loudly tell them to sit down and shut the hell up. That isn't likely to happen, so the next best thing is to remove yourself and your loved ones from any location where the SJWs have gained a foothold. It will only get worse. All they have to offer is criticism and chaos.

4/27/2017 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait! Cops watching replay to fine tune their
written reports? Kind of brings to mind (when stated
on this blog) that most participants of a testing class had
to take a bathroom break at the same time (hey, what was
that answer on #15?).
Defense lawyers are going to rip to shreds cop testimony if
they can prove the officer had access to replay footage and sound.

Why? Why would you get ripped to shreds? So if your doing say retail theft arrest wouldn't you watch the video first before drafting any reports? Say if you have a homicide arrest and it's on video wouldn't you review video before doing reports? It's the same as viewing any other evidence. So with your thinking if you get a UUW arrest you get one chance to look at the gun and that is when it is recovered on scene. You can't look at the gun to see the identifiers once back at the station. Without watching a video if there is one I say it would be an incomplete investigation

4/27/2017 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is viewing the recording going to change the contents of the recording? It is impossible for anyone to remember or see everything that occurred during an event. Just another anti police driven agenda. When you folks need help call one of these west side things, stop calling the police.

4/27/2017 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reason why the police should first be allowed to view the footage is simple, because the police MUST make a statement to investigators, while the public has the right to forever remain silent. Because the profession of policing forces officers to give up their right to remain silent, it is only fair that officers be allowed to view any evidence that has the potential to be used against them.

4/27/2017 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This policy was created by defense attorneys and ACLU to give them the legal upper hand.
It would give them an opportunity to setup what-if's or should-have's.

Police review evidence and determine evidentiary value, only then is it held for investigative needs.
Does all body cam images have value? Let ALCU first determine that...sure ok.
Suppose nothing was recorded on a body cam because of malfunction or obstruction?

No PD agency should allow anyone discretion to view evidence until it's in a court proceeding.
Rahm will cave in and allow it. He's seen video before and doesn't want more headaches before the 2019 campaign season begins.

This is what happens when you let criminal defense dictate the law.
It better if everyone just stops engaging in ghetto,affairs, no chases, no video.
I'd rather watch you writing a GOCR than watching a jumpy camera and listening to STOP! STOP! on the news every night.

Please learn how to curl up like a Golden next to a warm radiator.

4/27/2017 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep violating federal laws rahm crew:

CNN Estimated Sanctuary Cities have Billions to Lose due to Trump’s Immigration Policies

CNN did an estimate about what the “sanctuary cities” will have to lose, financially, if the Trump administration were to toughen their stance on withholding federal funding from “sanctuary cities.”

Here’s what CNN estimated:

Seattle: $276 million
New York City: $53 million
Chicago: $3 billion
Philadelphia: $26 million
Los Angeles: $500 million

3 billion rahm wtf are you doing?

4/27/2017 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISD has over 100,000 BWC videos sitting waiting to be processed because of inadequate supervision and lazy personnel in the BWC unit. Amazing how people get paid to sit around and still get away with taking long extended lunch breaks.

4/27/2017 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your reports should read as followed: See recording.

4/27/2017 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as long as everyone else involved gets to see the video before making any statements, I don't see any issue.

4/27/2017 03:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you guys do get your cameras be sure and find out what kind of lens is on it and what the focal length is. What the camera records is not what your eye is actually seeing. In most cases things appear farther away than they are. Defense attorneys are picking up on this and trying to make guys look bad by saying the recording is not like the officers report. So your answer on the stand could be, "Of course it's not, you idiot, it was filmed using a focal length of xxxx and that distorts this image to look father away." Make sure you/prosecutor understands how the camera is not "to scale" when it's recording and how to explain that to a jury.

With a camera you are going to want and try to verbalize more instead of just making the mental notes or written ones later for your report. The recording will give you a chance to "testify" while things are happening. You can get some great stuff to make sure the bad guys go away for a long time. Most times, people forget they are being recorded and they will keep running their mouths and dig the hole deeper and deeper. All you have to do is be smart and say the right things. Recordings have saved me more than they have caused me trouble from an agency not so much unlike yours. Figure out how to use them to your advantage and be safe.

4/27/2017 03:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's sadly the world we live in now.
A lot of these assholes are viewing us as adversaries and are painting us all as liars and untrustworthy.

As you poignantly point out SCC video snippets only tell part of the story.

4/27/2017 03:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do exactly what the liberals want NOTHING!!!
If you do nothing there is nothing to be taped and nothing to worry about!
Give them what they want NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4/27/2017 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

as long as everyone else involved gets to see the video before making any statements, I don't see any issue.

4/27/2017 03:32:00 PM

Exactly. It is much like watching CPD officers calling for the 72 hours that the feds get. It is funny how when EQUALITY is the standard, meaning the same rules apply to everyone, the conflicts suddenly begin to vanish.

Great point about having it understood that cameras do not show EVERYTHING. They sure don't but lets not forget that sometimes they show too much too. As I watch Live PD, a LOT of "camera issues" come up. From the mechanical failures to the need to switch views/other officers cams to the entry into peoples' homes on a domestic violence call or the yards of people's homes on a foot chase. It is WAY to much to ask of a police officer to be "nice" to your fence as they chase a violent thug through the neighborhood. Just suck it up and file a claim if there is damage and the taxpayer will pay for it. Yeah, yer dang flower bed too.

We need to have a SERIOUS and open discussion - ONGOING- when it pertains to these cameras. After all, the HONEST among us will not reject this conversation so long as TRUTH is told, from all sides about all issues. For crying out loud man, I have actually seen people oppose on and off capability and tuning out the whole BATHROOM BREAK factor. Just knock it off, cops gotta take a leak too -and NO not on camera!

Cameras can be a good tool, just as a gun or a tazer or a radio is a good tool, but notice that NONE of them is the end all be all. When someone tries to frame it as such, they must be called out as being dishonest about that.

4/27/2017 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Start making Gorts. The robot from The Day the Earth Stood Still. End of story! (The original movie)

4/27/2017 09:58:00 AM

It is the answer! As soon as a pos steps out of line, GORT would zap his ass!

4/27/2017 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rising up Angry comes to Cook Co States Attorney Office -

KwamishaFxWinkle just introduced bill to have state prosecutors get another look over of all CPD fatal shooting incidents, in addition to her own opinions. Seems she needs help diciphering case law, typical law school scholarship dilemma.
She's really going all out and wants to make sure she can solidly put a case on you.
Who's running the Murder Capitol and calling the shots with Rahm ...

You're on your own hardcharger, no viewing the body cam footage and prosecutorial 2-fer chance to put you behind bars.
Roll those bones or Get Fetal. Before it's too late.

4/27/2017 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just viewed that Bobby Rush video. What an embarrassment the congressman is. "Its government plates." " I was in the city council for nine years." " I want your name and badge number."

I would have wrote this clown, prepared for the backladh and forced him to make those connected corrective phone calls. So many not so privilaged people would have received personal service citations on a regular key date at traffic court. The officers were very professional when facing a known sly former gangbanging black panther advisary who flaunts his power with threats of retaliation. Someone mentioned it earlier, an excellent training video.

A police officer would have been suspended for failing to follow traffic statutes and been issued citations. A member of Congress gets a pass and then threatens officers who risk their lives in his violence plagued perpetually-unemployed community. Thank you officers for keeping the lid on the 1st Illinois Congressional District trash can. And to think this guy defeated Brock O'Bama.

4/27/2017 08:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can they record this idiocy?

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/04/26/uc-berkeley-gears-up-for-violent-protests-over-coulter-speech-cancellation/

Ann Coulter great person was going to speak but the snowflakes were upset and now she basically said "fuck it" and then they are doing this:UC Berkeley Gears Up For Violent Protests Over Coulter Speech Cancellation

Best thing to do is withhold all federal funding let it close up! california residents blame the elected morons who have restrained and neutered the police enjoy the "land of fruits and nuts!"



4/27/2017 10:11:00 AM

It's Berkeley. They protest anything there. I live near SF now and can vouch that life is good out west. I miss Chicago but you could not pay me a million dollars to move back there.

4/27/2017 08:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're on your own hardcharger, no viewing the body cam footage and prosecutorial 2-fer chance to put you behind bars.
Roll those bones or Get Fetal. Before it's too late.

4/27/2017 06:58:00 PM

in case you don't know this is already the law in a few states, that all police shootings will be investigated by the States's Attorney General, not the local prosecutor. Look for this to come here soon. The progressives do not want you to shoot anyone, not even a person running from you waiving a gun, as you can tell by the recent federal court verdict.

4/27/2017 08:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know what trips me out about body cameras ? They are supposed to be in place for accountability.. But it seems to me it's a 1 way street and the accountability is only for the police. The accountability should go both ways. I'm tired of seeing offenders caught on body camera coming crimes and STILL having cases not being pursued by the states attorneys office. Citizens and police should be held accountable for doing wrong, but it appears that only the police feel the repercussions of doing wrong on camera.

4/27/2017 10:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Rising up Angry comes to Cook Co States Attorney Office -

KwamishaFxWinkle just introduced bill to have state prosecutors get another look over of all CPD fatal shooting incidents, in addition to her own opinions. Seems she needs help diciphering case law, typical law school scholarship dilemma.
She's really going all out and wants to make sure she can solidly put a case on you.
Who's running the Murder Capitol and calling the shots with Rahm ...

You're on your own hardcharger, no viewing the body cam footage and prosecutorial 2-fer chance to put you behind bars.
Roll those bones or Get Fetal. Before it's too late.

4/27/2017 06:58:00 PM


Mmmmm-Hmmmmm...

When enough hard-chargers get cooked
in the anti-Police jackpot then cry about "We don't
support our own" when bundles of tickets
for the "I stepped on my pee-pee real hard"
benefits remain unsold.

We ARE supporting our own by telling
you guys to STOP being adrenaline junkies
and stop chasing dude.

Stop taking this ghetto guerilla
theater personally.

The most important ones in this bad mix
are The Police so act accordingly and
preserve and protect yourselves only.

Too many of you aren't trying to hear it.

This ain't 1985, 1995 or even 2005...
Wake the fuck up. Policing has been
forcibly re-booted in this town.

Policing ain't fun anymore.
Policing is all about survival
and self preservation.



4/27/2017 10:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny how the company whose product(taser/axon)is probably responsible for millions of dollars worth of lawsuits to municipalities in regards to the use of their product-is the company providing body cams to departments across the country. follow the money...

4/27/2017 11:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" Anonymous Anonymous said...

Simple solution. Due to the stress and trauma of the incident I am unable to recall what actions I took at this time. If I were to view the video it would give me insight, until then I do not recall."

This. Either the system can depend on humans or it can depend on cameras. But they want to pick whichever one fries the copper more.

4/28/2017 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Body cameras are great.... bye bye invisible institute....

Think I used excessive force? look at the camera ... the force was justified.....

I planted evidence?.... check the camera the defendant dropped it and admitted to having it.....Yes, miranda was given on camera........

I said profane, racist language? check the camera.... wrong again....

Cameras can be used to our advantage. They are being used throughout the country so it only makes sense to dive into this and start learning how to make it work for us.

4/28/2017 01:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Answer is simple...give them no body cam footage. Don't chase the guy with the gun, roll lights and blaring sirens to every domestic so wifebeater can escape, don't do any stops, and let the city fall through its own sink hole to the point where Rham gets fired and the people resort to their only option...THE POLICE TO BE THE POLICE.

4/28/2017 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...






Do exactly what the liberals want NOTHING!!!
If you do nothing there is nothing to be taped and nothing to worry about!
Give them what they want NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Give them what they deserve: NOTHING!!!!!!!!!




4/28/2017 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" Anonymous Anonymous said...

Simple solution. Due to the stress and trauma of the incident I am unable to recall what actions I took at this time. If I were to view the video it would give me insight, until then I do not recall."

This. Either the system can depend on humans or it can depend on cameras. But they want to pick whichever one fries the copper more.

Not a simple solution. My suggestion would be for the FOP to invest a few bucks with a top defense lawyer or two and see what their suggestion is. Then basically have a prepared statement available to the membership.
Your statement appears fine, but it would be better to run it through a lawyer before rather than after you make it

4/28/2017 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is the end result: R/O responded to 123 Main St reference "fill in information here"....see video.

4/28/2017 02:12:00 PM  

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