ET Car Notice
This is "fucking golden," to quote a former governor.
That last portion is "concerning."
That last portion is "concerning."
Is the City fining CTA bus drivers for triggering red light and speed cameras? What about garbage trucks? Streets and San supervisors running around in those leased vehicles from Indiana? Fire trucks that aren't responding to calls, but rather returning to quarters?
We're pretty sure none of those Departments are tagged for improper operation of vehicles - perhaps administratively, but there was a union that fought the actual fine and won it.
Anyone have any guidance from the FOP on this? Because the way the City is drilling down responsibility, we wouldn't be surprised to claim the ET's are personally responsible for any fender bender, property damage or personal injury accident that occurs in a leased vehicle.
We're pretty sure none of those Departments are tagged for improper operation of vehicles - perhaps administratively, but there was a union that fought the actual fine and won it.
Anyone have any guidance from the FOP on this? Because the way the City is drilling down responsibility, we wouldn't be surprised to claim the ET's are personally responsible for any fender bender, property damage or personal injury accident that occurs in a leased vehicle.
Labels: department issues, FOP
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
117 Comments:
On a humorous level, I foresee lots of those portable emergency flashing lights will be gracing the top of a lot of 60" TV's in subsidized housing.
On a less humorous note, I foresee Evidence Techs getting hurt, or worse, thanks to the lack of anything identifying these shiny new cars as police vehicles.
Next you will have to use your own personal vehicle.
Just wait until the tickets start arriving, that will slow them down.
Per state statute and ref light camera ordinance police vehicles are EXEMPT from the provisions of the enforcement
If the GO says thou shalt not pursue criminals, then why even bother to waste the toner to say not to use the vehicle for pursuits, chases, etc...
And what's a traffic stop again? that thing that requires the ISR to be filled out? Hahahahahahaha.... yeah.
I called the on-call person and received advice to write a to/from stating my refusal to operate a non-police vehicle because the following three reasons:
1. operating one may jeopardize my safety due to circumstances beyond my control.
2. operating one may jeopardize my job due to circumstances beyond my control.
3. I.O.D. benefits have not been guaranteed.
FOP said they will have an email blast tomorrow (Monday).
An et showed up to a scene and there was zero legal parking in the area. None. So what is he supposed to do? Pay for parking? Park it in a pay parking lot? Double park and get ticketed by dept of revenue guys. It's ridiculous.
He ended up parking on a hydrant and we had a officer sit on his car to make sure it didn't get ticketed. Crazy times we are living thru on this job.
I would advise the ET's to get creative with a white magnet and affix it to the license plate during the tour of duty and remove it during check off fuck this city and its revenue cameras.
Vote Republican
Uhm fop should be all over this one. Wtf so ET are now going to be late for shootings because they are in rent a cars. What the hell is going on with this department.
The g should look at this matter someone is making a lot of money on this one
Wasn't Rahm's bodyguards blowing red lights? Did they pay out?
Buy the supplemental Enterprise Rental Insurance!
they are out of their fucking minds!
Why don't they just take UBER, or better yet, the bus?
okkkkkkk
It's not an emergency vehicle, of course you're responsible.
Just remember for those minor scrapes Earl Scheib will paint any car any color for 199.95. Yes that is the blue light special.
A sworn Law Enforcement Officer driving an Enterprise rental car issued by their department, to use for official duties. Gee, sounds like a lawsuit waiting to be filed.
Aren't we supposed to drive Official vehicles, with Official plates???
Only in chiraq
The city would get a better deal on the Rental Cars if they went thru Costco and they would acquire reward points. ♠️
What next Uber or Lyft for responses to crime scenes?
This what is tried before watch as hutch attaches the red light now it's a squad car:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=svrDahAm48w
Off topic. How much of our tax dollars paid for rahmie's we are one video and the supporting commercials?
Easy peazy, just act like a civilian off duty while on duty driving a rentacopcar.
The City of Chicago, Chicago Police Department does not want you to be the police nor act like the police.
So I say, DON'T
Simple as that. Give them what they want.
I'm glad that they are using those plug-in "Kojak" lights again. I always thought that they were really cool.
"Hit it Crocka"!
this reads as if a 1st year PPO wrote it
who is in charge ???
Fire trucks are ticketed for red light and speed cameras when their emergency lights are not on.
We get all the redlight tickets for fire dept vehicles and we have to prove to the department and the camera people that we were actually responding to an emergency. If we lose, or don't have proof we have to pay, provide proof that we did and will still be disciplined. Double jeopardy for the city.
Ps, that's a low blow SCC. I see squad cars disobeing traffic control devices without any lights or sirens, often just to get to the white hen around the corner from me. There is no reason to drag us into a fight you have. Get the FOP to stand up for you regarding the camera enforcement like the damn useless criminal CTA drivers.
I have been retired for 10 years and when I left I knew the Department lacked leadership but this is ridiculous. Who was in charge of longer ( say 5 years) planning? It is expensive to rent cars from Enterprise, in my previous position years ago I was privy to the costs then.
I do think all the " merit" promotions are coming home to roost.
like when Rahm's two Yukon caravan kept racking up automated tickets and he deflected them off on the drivers?
Then they were non suited because the cars in the motorcade couldn't be split up
Special Ed does your girlfriend get to have one of the cars better watch out the way she drives
How about the fact that ETs' recover evidence at crime scenes like blood. That blood ends up in the trunk of those vehicles. Those Enterprise vehicles are then either rented or sold to the public. So you may be placing your kids toys coat etc where evidence from multiple crime scene was previously stored. Nice.
This is JUST TOO FUCKED UP for words.....So glad I'm retired from E.T.en....
WOW! What a fucked up way to run a dept. Response time is going to take
alot longer. I wouldn't get in or move that leased vehicle unless I had to
respond to a job.
Peoplecare always confused when they rent a car. They believe that they're covered under the rental company's auto insurance. Also they fail to realize the optional rental insurance is to protect the rental company's car. I doubt that a rental car would fall under the city's self insurance clause/policy. I would be very careful driving a rental car for police work.
OT
Remember when Democrat Daley ACTUALLY did this? Did the liberals cry?
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/timesnews/buckhorns-joke-about-pointing-machine-guns-at-media-draws-fire/2324553
TAMPA — At a time when journalists are under fire both literally and figuratively, Tampa Mayor Bob Buckhorn’s “joke” this week at a military conference about pointing twin 50 caliber machine guns at journalists and watching them “cry like little girls” rankled several reporters in the room.
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You all better start writing some ISR's , bec this.....
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/worlds-first-operational-robocop-hits-10474646?service=responsive
The "world's first operational Robocop" has been unveiled in Dubai as part of the emirate's planned robot police force.
Robocop started work on Sunday and is already making a name for itself.
Warning... rental care insurance is💩
Uh, does this mean they have to pay the meter. Will they get a allowance for that.
Fuck this police dept. i'll take my time responding to any emergency!
July 2nd, nationwide AntiFa protest marches....
Gee, you mean they couldn't arrange to have some of all the new cars Dean bargained for us sent over to 277? Fucking useless FOP. You'd better do us right, Kev-O, or you'll be packing your bags three short years from now.
OT, but here it goes again:
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170522/north-lawndale/driver-of-stolen-car-hits-officer-with-it-then-crashes-into-fence-police
Because remember, moving cars aren't a "threat" by themselves.
Take the plates off the car when you start your tour...
The ghetto Chicago Police Dept. Destroyed by the liberals and merit hacks. Rest In Peace.
LOL@ 5/22 05:58AM. The visual is priceless. Thx for the laugh.
Why is everything becoming so "cheesy" on this job...? Seriously! From the equipment we use, (ie. printers, chairs, buildings we use) to the vehicles we drive, to the policies we implement...
I am embarrassed to talk "shop" with other department police sometimes.
Safety issue FOP should not wait until tomorrow. Policeman in uniform definitely should be in marked vehicles. Likewise tactical units should have unmarked vehicles which are equipped with proper emergency siren and lights. There is no tomorrow on this issue.FOP should act today.
This city is so fucked up.
Operating on the cheap with certain important things and pissing away money on frivolous ideas of Rahm and his alderthieves.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
On a humorous level, I foresee lots of those portable emergency flashing lights will be gracing the top of a lot of 60" TV's in subsidized housing.
On a less humorous note, I foresee Evidence Techs getting hurt, or worse, thanks to the lack of anything identifying these shiny new cars as police vehicles.
5/22/2017 12:14:00 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we have two officers narrowly escape death a few weeks ago when their covert vehicle was mistaken for the enemy gang?
How is sending out ET.'s in cars not a whole lot better than covert vehicles a smart thing to do?
Obviously Rahm and FatHead Ed don't think too much of us to try and pull this bullshit.
All that taxpayer money that went to Rahm's pet project of DePaul Arena would sure come in handy to buy sorely needed squad cars.
So would some of that $40 Million for another hair brained idea of Rahm's : ghetto mentors.
C'mon media. Start calling out these asshole poliiticians for operating on the cheap with important things yet pissing away millions after millions on their ridiculous pet projects.
Anonymous said...
I called the on-call person and received advice to write a to/from stating my refusal to operate a non-police vehicle because the following three reasons:
1. operating one may jeopardize my safety due to circumstances beyond my control.
2. operating one may jeopardize my job due to circumstances beyond my control.
3. I.O.D. benefits have not been guaranteed.
FOP said they will have an email blast tomorrow (Monday).
5/22/2017 01:21:00 AM
Good! Let's hope some sanity enters into this discussion. This is exactly what unions are for - to advocate for their membership. This department has totally gone off the rails.
Anonymous said...
Next you will have to use your own personal vehicle.
5/22/2017 12:15:00 AM
Nope.
My insurance specifically excludes use of my personal car for official police business.
nonymous said...
It's not an emergency vehicle, of course you're responsible.
5/22/2017 06:14:00 AM
Yes, these rentals are not emergency vehicles in that sense, but it is common in private industry for the company to carry insurance on company cars and cover all expenses. Any accidents would be investigated and if you as an authorized driver are involved in an accident and you show gross negligence you can be fired from your job. What the city is telling you by issuing you a rental car, is " do not hurry to any assignment, take your time, follow all traffic regulations and park legally". No legal place to park? Get a supervisor to approve a parking spot that is not legal and make a note of it.
Wait, soon you will have to lease a gun from the shitty..Every time it is drawn you pay $150 if fired, $1000 per round..All proceeds will go to the pension fund !
I'm sure the bean counters had ran it through Rahm's people for a year before they gave spending approval for rentals.
But I won't doubt City Hall offered to give them a CTA bus pass and a Divvy bike (failing company) with a basket in front to prop it on the front of the #14 CTA Jeffery Jump. They also probably explored if using Uber it would be quicker and cheaper.
Long ago, when K-9 had exhausted the use of their fleet of 1985 Ford station wagons (Country Squires), motor maintenance repurposed them and gave them to ET's and PO's as pools.
As for red lights...
Ever see an ET in a hurry ?
Maybe in the parking lot after check-off.
tom dart on 60 minutes what a two faced arrogant pompous 19th ward political hack
typical of the average mt billywood resident
As a department we have had more than a handful of close-calls within the last year or 2 involving department members driving those Ford Fusions.
Even with the M-plate, they don't look like police cars. There have sadly been cases of detectives and specialized units driving them being mistaken as rival gang members- even while in uniform.
This is downright dangerous, you are basically having officers circling neighborhoods in coverts- I don't give a damn about some flimsy light they try to put on your dashboard. Bottom line is, it looks like a covert car.
I thought we just found out a few weeks ago in 009 what gang members think of being followed by cars that don't look like police cars?
The blood will be on the hands of the city of god forbid one of our brothers or sisters gets hurt as the city tries to piece-meal our equipment together.
Please stay safe!!!!
Well at least that 14 year old from 003 can get a strobe light and rent a car so he can be the police....AGAIN...Lol What a freakn joke.
Next Saturday, there is going to be a re-grand opening at 555 W Harrison of the newly named "Timothy McVeigh Domestic Violence Court".
Take it easy all you keyboard warriors. We has these cars in the detective division with no problems. My partner and I had a SUV because we are large law men and never had an incident.
Tim Murphy
Cold Case
Area South
More to follow. Out.
So an ET in uinform in a rental car is flagged down for police service of any kind and yet fails to take the appropriate action due to the limitations set forth in the order/policy, can that ET face disciplinary and legal ramifications??? Are the ET's fully indemnified legally and policy wise upon operating rental vehicles which are classified as administrative vehicles? Unless the department tenders a written policy and or guarantee that the ET using said administrative vehicle will be fully indemnified and covered by department policy and for insurance purposes then I cannot see nor can done any ET utilizing such a vehicle for official poplice purposes. Anyone remember ET Flisk? FOP needs to jump on this IMMEDIATELY!!!
"Ps, that's a low blow SCC"
It's a "low blow" to ask a question?
"Fire trucks that aren't responding to calls, but rather returning to quarters?"
Golly, we better not ask any more questions of the Fire Department guys - it's a "low blow" to even ask for assistance in determining if the City's policy toward another Public Safety Employee is unfair, improper or against existing work rules.
5/22/2017 12:50:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If the GO says thou shalt not pursue criminals, then why even bother to waste the toner to say not to use the vehicle for pursuits, chases, etc...
And what's a traffic stop again? that thing that requires the ISR to be filled out? Hahahahahahaha.... yeah.
5/22/2017 01:16:00 AM
Obviously a dog without a clue, a traffic stop doesn't constitute an ISR, a blue card (basically the same card for the past 12 years).
Why the fuck do all these useless supervisors get a take home car from forensic services???? They don't do shit anyway and none of them were ETs or FIs b4 getting that cush spot.
Yeah, FI and Chicago Crime Lab, remember them???
You can only put 5 gallons of gas at a time in the rentals from the city pumps
Hey Detective, I'm sure from your vantage point upon the ivory tower everything is alright. If I call a 10-1 are any nearby Detectives coming to help? Do they carry radios anymore, and would they even know a Unit is in trouble? Now ET's wont be responding to emergencies?
I'm glad you have a "large" vehicle for you, and your partners overweight Ass! When I make dick, can I go to the cold case unit? I bet there are plenty of donuts in the morning...
Unless your a troll....
As a department we have had more than a handful of close-calls within the last year or 2 involving department members driving those Ford Fusions.
Even with the M-plate, they don't look like police cars. There have sadly been cases of detectives and specialized units driving them being mistaken as rival gang members- even while in uniform.
This is downright dangerous, you are basically having officers circling neighborhoods in coverts- I don't give a damn about some flimsy light they try to put on your dashboard. Bottom line is, it looks like a covert car.
I thought we just found out a few weeks ago in 009 what gang members think of being followed by cars that don't look like police cars?
The blood will be on the hands of the city of god forbid one of our brothers or sisters gets hurt as the city tries to piece-meal our equipment together.
Please stay safe!!!!
So you want covert cars to look like police cars? The purpose of covert cars are so you are not recognized as the police
5/22/2017 07:47:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How about the fact that ETs' recover evidence at crime scenes like blood. That blood ends up in the trunk of those vehicles. Those Enterprise vehicles are then either rented or sold to the public. So you may be placing your kids toys coat etc where evidence from multiple crime scene was previously stored. Nice.
That's terrible. Did you ever think that any car either rented or sold to the public could have blood in the trunk where someone cut his hand, had a nosebleed and you may be placing your kids toys where they bled. Nice
Maybe the COD should have no covert cars so the gangs don't mistake them for rivals. Do you know how ridiculous you sound. This is a police department and there are risks on the job
heard Dean Angelo offered to lease his new/used chrysler 300 C-(crook) to evidence technicians
as a show of good will but only after the 5000 in repairs were completed.
I notice the FOP is gonna do a emailing. Here is WHY Rahm and co is paying this rental car game, ok? Listen carefully. Their game is one of delay. These cars are cars and thus the language in yer contract is - by their account - sufficed. Of course yall know that is BS. SO do they! However, to greivence it is to make it a litigious situation, which is what they want. Of course, they know they will lose that too, but they can then delay it on their own timeline.
The failure of the union here is clear and their emailer will show it. Rather than call for an organized work stoppage that puts THEM and IT in the hit seat, it leaves yall individually to basically do your own, according to their outline of course. They are, it is, essentially delaying the delay, which works to Rahm's advantage and his crew's advantage - remember, delay is what they want.
Work stoppage outright and organized would see Rahm blame the summer crime on cops and their stoppage. Of course this is stepping up now as they set up "we tried incentivising them to work more, but but but they hammered our "quotas" down!
Yall's gettin PLAYED.
"If the GO says thou shalt not pursue criminals, then why even bother to waste the toner to say not to use the vehicle for pursuits, chases, etc...
And what's a traffic stop again? that thing that requires the ISR to be filled out? Hahahahahahaha.... yeah."
If you think the GO says to not pursue any criminals, period and that you need to fill out an ISR for every traffic stop, maybe it's better you don't do anything, for my, your and everyone else's safety.
Well, you guys bitched about your squad cars having high miles and no air conditioning. Now you have brand new cars with perfectly working A/C for the summer. As far as the tickets, are you really in a hurry to get anywhere anyways? Crank the A/C, connect your phone via Bluetooth and listen to your own music or podcasts for the tour. 85% of the coverts in OCD are Emterprise rentals, not that big of a deal.
Fire trucks are ticketed for red light and speed cameras when their emergency lights are not on.
5/22/2017 07:29:00 AM
Do fire trucks even have license plates?
"At a time when journalists are under fire both literally and figuratively, Tampa Mayor Bob Buckhorn’s “joke” this week at a military conference about pointing twin 50 caliber machine guns at journalists and watching them “cry like little girls” rankled several reporters in the room."
5/22/2017 08:28:00 AM
"Journalists" are literally and figuratively under fire?? From whom? Bosnian snipers?
rb
"Ps, that's a low blow SCC"
It's a "low blow" to ask a question?
"Fire trucks that aren't responding to calls, but rather returning to quarters?"
Golly, we better not ask any more questions of the Fire Department guys - it's a "low blow" to even ask for assistance in determining if the City's policy toward another Public Safety Employee is unfair, improper or against existing work rules.
They are heros. Where else can one of them strike a CPD officer, never get disciplined and then promoted.
How about the fact that ETs' recover evidence at crime scenes like blood. That blood ends up in the trunk of those vehicles. Those Enterprise vehicles are then either rented or sold to the public. So you may be placing your kids toys coat etc where evidence from multiple crime scene was previously stored. Nice.
5/22/2017 07:50:00 AM
Last I checked, evidence went in bags that were sealed. So there ought not to be anything "in the trunk" that's spilled, otherwise you've got some pretty big chain of custody and spolilation issues to contend with.
When considering the shit that the average vehicle renter stuffs into the vehicles - a sealed evidence bag is the least of your worries.
im not a cop
if one of these mickey mouse cars tries to pull me over, i am going to give the driver the finger.
unless he starts screaming "WE WOO" out the window.
this city is nuts!!!
commissioner reynolds and director chapulis are running this department to the ground
So, the midget cant find any money in his fat wallet to purchase adequate squad cars for the Police. But hew has plenty of money to buy multiple new garbage trucks for streets and sanitation. not to mention all the other trucks that are brand new at north and Throop and 103rd and Doty.
Rahm, shouldn't you be concerned with providing an adequate amount of Police vehicles to protect Chicago's Children.
Its for the Children!
Man the city is dumb and cheap. All they need to do is use vinyl vehicle wraps and could turn a civilian vehicle into a marked police vehicle. The wrap could be removed when turning the vehicle back to the rental company. 10 cars would cost about 3000 to be wrapped. But they are cheap and don't care about officer safety. Hey dumbasses, a simple Google search reveals dozens of companies in chicago area that could solve the problem in a week.
Anonymous said...
tom dart on 60 minutes what a two faced arrogant pompous 19th ward political hack
typical of the average mt billywood resident
5/22/2017 12:45:00 PM
No he is not typical. You didn't see him out standing up against the BLM jags last winter. Those were the typical Mt. Greenwood residents.
You can talk trash about a neighborhood that you obviously know little to nothing about but one thing is for sure, we stick together.
Just use Uber.
Earl Scheib went out of business on July 16, 2010.
But those "baked-on" jobs were strictly top of the line.
HYEN (have you ever noticed?): guys who work all day
spraying paint are a little nutty (from the fumes).
There is one type that was used often late 50s/early 60s
that was really bad, but I forgot the name (no pun intended)
(Think it was lacquer. Imagine working on the line for GM
back in the day, and doing nothing but that?). Once the UAW
moved these guys out of the paint shop, they were usually shot
anyway. "Fit & Finish"? Hello?
Can I apply my AARP discount to the rental car and get an upgrade???
Just Askin'...
zero = a number with: violation notices and personal service citations!- Mo Fo! Fight back!
It's okay. Rahm is going to borrow $397 million against your pensions. Don't sweat it!
I personally know an officer that had to pay a speed camera violation on the quad car he was driving. He was unable to prove he was responding to an emergency.
This city is beyond embarrassing and the working coppers are no longer going to work. You can thank the Mayor.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
An et showed up to a scene and there was zero legal parking in the area. None. So what is he supposed to do? Pay for parking? Park it in a pay parking lot? Double park and get ticketed by dept of revenue guys. It's ridiculous.
He ended up parking on a hydrant and we had a officer sit on his car to make sure it didn't get ticketed. Crazy times we are living thru on this job.
5/22/2017 01:29:00 AM
Heres a thought to consider.
If I as a PEA am out on patrol and I happen across multiple Marked on a Scene, and oh lets say Crime Scene tape, I personally exercise due caution and AVOID the WHOLE DAMN Block. Don't care if it is CFD, CPD. Multiple M Plates or MP plates, marked vehicles or unmarked.... Don't Care.
I go in a different direction unless for some reason a Cop stops me to ask me questions about anything I may have seen in the area I just came from, and of course that type of question isn't about how many tickets I wrote.
Now...as a suggestion:
Consider asking the WCC or whatever the title of the week is for a District Official Duty placard. IF there is going to be these damn Rental Cars used like Fleet Vehicles, an Official City Business Placard should be parked in the Damn Glove Box of the vehicles. Not necessarily one that cries out ET on Duty...due to chain of custody security and shit in the trunk that is VITAL to the case.
I ran into a passenger plated vehicle on a Residential Permit block the other day. Had a CPD Official Business placard on it but no Permit for the Zone.
I LEFT IT THE FUCK ALONE because I am not Karnak and I default to "vehicle RO is on Police Business."
You guys know me for the most part here. We catch enough flack just doing out jobs, but we don't go after M Plates, U plates or any other type of OBVIOUS Gvt vehicle.
Anymore.
016 Finance Guy on a Bike.
Blago got where he is because he was convenient
to persecute as an ethnic minority.
Fuck the Establishment. The jackass Jackson tribe
runs free. Bobby Rush was given a blessing under
Obama, because Barry had a hero in Bill Ayres.
Bobby was plugged into the Angela Davis redemption
theme. Play your slave cards as long as you can, 'cause
things are changing, your cards are torn and frayed, and
will not be reissued. The next tier down is medical: bipolar,
type II diabetes, Ambien sleep-driving. First thing you say is
I've got an addiction problem and I'm checking into rehab.
If they want these to be recognized as police cars, all they need to do is order up License plates that start with 'ZA' or 'NU' from the Sec. of State. Then put them on the grill with gigantic fender washers and have fleet install wig wags. How many remember those days???
I hope all ET's are issued phones, if I can't use the radio to call for R service.
The big boys cut a deal, then distribute a flyer
with an 800 #. Use it well. Say you are a top
figure, bitch & moan, demand a replacement
vehicle, and give them the appropriate call back
number. The execs literally need a 2 or 3 AM
wake up call. How does shift work appeal to
you now, 9.5?
Just wait to hear about the ticking bomb about duty disability and IOD medical bills. Angelo has a really bad secret about to be dropped and the rat he is.
Per state statute and ref light camera ordinance police vehicles are EXEMPT from the provisions of the enforcement...
tell that to Gurnee who sends the red light bill to the Lake County Sheriff when their squads take a light.
Bloody evidence, or any evidence for that matter goes into paper, occasionally a can, but never a sealed plastic bag FYI, and nothing gets sealed at a scene
Do rental car display city vehicle license ?
E.T's were given one placard per car to put in the window saying "forensic services official vehicle" what a joke
Why the fuck do all these useless supervisors get a take home car from forensic services???? They don't do shit anyway and none of them were ETs or FIs b4 getting that cush spot.
Yeah, FI and Chicago Crime Lab, remember them???
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Not sure what supervisors you are referring to, but the ET Sgt's all share vehicles. None of them have a take home car. The LT does. The position requires it. That's it.
And the mayors bodyguards?
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"So you want covert cars to look like police cars? The purpose of covert cars are so you are not recognized as the police"
No fucking shit. The poster was making the point as in a capacity as a detective, responding to a scene, you aren't a covert unit working in a covert capacity. Yes, you should always be aware of your surroundings, but in the moment you just might glance at your phone or drop your guard for a second (we've all done it, you're only lying to yourself if you say you haven't) maybe it's best to have people know you are the police, they might be less inclined to take a shot at you knowing it will being mad heat on them or their people. You aren't patrolling or trying to do surveillance to get your dope pinch. And he/she is absolutely right about the fusions. Dangerous. An ET responded to a shooting I was on the other night in a Nissan Rogue or Murano with fucking yellow temp tags on it. Because that won't be mistaken at all for a shithead car rolling around in the middle of a fucking war zone.
I'm glad I am NOT an Evidence Technician!
Sounds like you guys are on your way to getting jammed up by this stupid city, for just doing police work!
Fuck this City and Police Dept.!
Maybe vehicle that was shot up a couple of weeks ago was a leased vehicle and to protect themselves
They are coming out with this.
That unit should have take home cars anyway considering the amount of time wasted loading and unloading equipment and sitting in a roll call. An ET could become available immediately from home by coming up on the citywide instead of pointless roll calls which delay response times and cause backlogs. The processing of a scene, inventorying, and packaging is already too time consuming without adding more delays.
Dean Angelo was complicit in a plan to steal a members owned asset worth $18K and the board members who voted for it should have charges brought against them as well.
Not sure what supervisors you are referring to, but the ET Sgt's all share vehicles. None of them have a take home car. The LT does. The position requires it. That's it.
what about the chubby inside FI with the take home car making 90,000 in OT every year doing nothing.
10:43pm - Gurnee PD is one of those depts. which runs around trying to screw each other as well as other agencies. Like Naperville. They also ticket other police passing through their fair hamlet but were quick to hint for getting a break when they passed through my town with a lead foot. Also remember when Great America (now 6 Flags) started stopping off duty officers from carrying their firearms into the park. Gurnee PD offered no assistance with securing the weapon so the copper with his family could still enjoy his day off. Their attitude was "lock it in the trunk!"
If it wasn't for Bass Pro, I'd have no reason to stop in Gurnee.
As for as the Lake Co. Sheriff's Office, they are an agency which Cook Co. should try to be like but we know that Dart will never let that happen.
Blood borne pathogens could be transmitted in the trunk or back seat of these rented vehicles
Check with the ISP Evidence Technicians or the County Sheriff Technicians. They will adviseYou that this transfer can happen
Check with the FBI Evidence Technicians and the FBI Crime Lab. They will also agree
Grieve this Now. Or be part of the LawSuit when the rental vehicle is Sold to the average Citizen
Enterprise is Liable
City of Chicago is Liable
The PD is Liable
Let's all go to 26th Street for Tommies Pizza
Hey a month ago I saw Lappie from the Pension Fund driving around in am unmarked car. We at short cars in the District and he gets a take home car. Who's taking care of him now
So Lappies personal car has M plates....not
Hey dick head do you know why he walks with a limp?
Because he got shot in the neck on this job
Think before you open your mouth you stroke
Blood borne pathogens could be transmitted in the trunk or back seat of these rented vehicles
Check with the ISP Evidence Technicians or the County Sheriff Technicians. They will adviseYou that this transfer can happen
Check with the FBI Evidence Technicians and the FBI Crime Lab. They will also agree
Grieve this Now. Or be part of the LawSuit when the rental vehicle is Sold to the average Citizen
Enterprise is Liable
City of Chicago is Liable
The PD is Liable
Let's all go to 26th Street for Tommies Pizza
You are paranoid so if I buy a Enterprise rental that has blood in the truck or front and back they are liable. There is probably blood in 90% of their cars. People get hurt and transported to the hospitals in cars, kids get nosebleeds, children get injured at sporting events at the beach and Enterprise gets sued. Everyone must be out to get you
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Do rental car display city vehicle license ?
5/22/2017 10:53:00 PM
If they are City Rental Companies....I think it was Enterprise that was mentioned..
They are covered on what is called the BC-11 or BC-10 Fleet Purchase program by the City Clerk.
They do not have to display a current valid sticker.
So Run the plate. If the Rental Car comes back to Chicago, 99.995% chance that company is on the List I mentioned.
We get it from the Clerk every year.
Regards,
016 Finance Bike Guy.
5/23/2017 11:23:00 AM
As a follow up on that point,
I heard a rumor a while back that Oak Park would ticket Marked non Oak Park PD vehicles if they were parked illegally.
From an ET. Hey jagoffs quit trying to make something out of nothing. Let's see. Would I rather drive a marked crown Vic with about a zillion miles on it or a brand new enterprise car? Unmarked so nobody knows that I'm the police? Your damn right I'll drive the new unmarked. If you're not an et and it doesn't effect you STFU!
Yes, I understand the inherent danger of covert cars. Butvthey are part of policework.
I believe my point is being misunderstood.
COVERT. CARS. SHOULD. NOT. BE. USED. FOR. ROUTINE. PATROL. DUTIES.
Ever.
I'm not saying "no covert cars", I'm saying there is a time and place for everything. Putting ET's and Summer Mobile- who are not conducting covert operations, and are not trained in such operations is both asinine and unsafe.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
5/23/2017 11:23:00 AM
As a follow up on that point,
I heard a rumor a while back that Oak Park would ticket Marked non Oak Park PD vehicles if they were parked illegally.
uh....we do....not rummor
Anonymous Anonymous said...
10:43pm - Gurnee PD is one of those depts. which runs around trying to screw each other as well as other agencies. Like Naperville. They also ticket other police passing through their fair hamlet but were quick to hint for getting a break when they passed through my town with a lead foot. Also remember when Great America (now 6 Flags) started stopping off duty officers from carrying their firearms into the park. Gurnee PD offered no assistance with securing the weapon so the copper with his family could still enjoy his day off. Their attitude was "lock it in the trunk!"
If it wasn't for Bass Pro, I'd have no reason to stop in Gurnee.
As for as the Lake Co. Sheriff's Office, they are an agency which Cook Co. should try to be like but we know that Dart will never let that happen.
5/23/2017 11:23:00 AM
Ahh asshat I was recently stopped in Naperville I'm a retired Chicago police officer they gave me professional courtesy so stop coming on the at the blog and talking nonsense.
It's all good as long as HK got to pick his new car first
Of course Tiny Dancer bought new trucks. Those are going to "loaned out" to private contractors who spread around political donations. Hey, look over by dere! Trump is racist!
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