"No Personals" per 1290
This comment appeared Friday:
- NO PERSONALS ALLOWED IN 012 ON 3RD WATCH TODAY.
So, LT Georgas tells all the cars on 3rd watch in 012 that no Personals will be allowed today due to numerous festivals and events and cars being stretched thin. Aka, short on manpower.
Today, we got proof:
By Contract, you are entitled to one lunch and two personals. By Contract, if you are denied the lunch, you are entitled to be paid for it. And we've worked plenty of details and busy days where lunches were denied across the board, so the Personal is used to allow you to get a sandwich on the run or use the bathroom or whatever.
We don't care who Spiro is related to. He gives this order and has a Sergeant distribute it, everyone on the watch ought to drop a slip for the lunch and protest the lack of a break. Otherwise, management starts to think they can violated the Contract with impunity.
And someone ought to buzz the local aldercreatures and tell them that 012, after being combined with 013 and having over 400 officers assigned, is somehow operating with under 300 all of the sudden and can't handle the regularly scheduled festivals and events. Perhaps a change in management is in order to properly distribute and assign manpower?
UPDATE: We are told in numerous comments that personals are NOT contractual but rather by General Order, and then at the discretion of supervision. Who would "discretion" you from a bathroom break? When Mother Nature calls, She usually means it, especially as we all age a bit. Sometimes She calls quite a lot, depending on age, health, etc.
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We don't care who Spiro is related to. He gives this order and has a Sergeant distribute it, everyone on the watch ought to drop a slip for the lunch and protest the lack of a break. Otherwise, management starts to think they can violated the Contract with impunity.
And someone ought to buzz the local aldercreatures and tell them that 012, after being combined with 013 and having over 400 officers assigned, is somehow operating with under 300 all of the sudden and can't handle the regularly scheduled festivals and events. Perhaps a change in management is in order to properly distribute and assign manpower?
UPDATE: We are told in numerous comments that personals are NOT contractual but rather by General Order, and then at the discretion of supervision. Who would "discretion" you from a bathroom break? When Mother Nature calls, She usually means it, especially as we all age a bit. Sometimes She calls quite a lot, depending on age, health, etc.
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Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
178 Comments:
I took a shit in my pants for the department... my wife will do a single wash, I will send a bill
Lieutenant Spiro Georges. How disgusting to even see it written. A useless gopher as a patrol officer and after two bites at the merit apple we have a little tyrant. The stupid little puke never even thought about the consequences of his edict. Let it rain CE slips all over his desk! The union should get involved so there is not a name or names known to him. He's a mean little prick.
These bosses are something else.
When you gotta go you gotta go! Nobody gets to tell an adult when he can't use the bathroom
Shortage is citywide but no one cares
Different subject, but thought you might be interested. Fabio, of all people, talks sense and smack about California's insane restrictions on cops/lax sentencing rules and what that has done to the crime rate, even among the rich and famous:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLPVTM8WCz8
It's been all downhill since bubblehead took over. Easily over 100 coppers have left since he's been in charge. That rotten prick can't retire soon enough
Be like 018,Dont code your jobs Milk them.
Pompous assholes the both of them
Sounds like the same crap that big mouth sgt. P.c in 24 3rd watch does. He tells p.os at roll calls no lunches after 8pm. This is even in winter and without knowing if the tour will be busy or not. Its only a matter of time before this brucey merit pick is hit hard by p.os and a civil suit or something else.
We were able to put slips in for OT.
I remember discussing the whole "2 personals a day by contract" with coworkers many moons ago. One of them swore up-and-down that the number two was ironclad while another said the number of personals was potentially unlimited, dictated on an individual basis. A hypothetical situation of having 'The Shits' was used to justify a dozen +/- personals any given tour of duty. Seems the answer is ambiguous, but clearly stacked in managements favor. Pick and choose your battles wisely... this one is a loser:
Employee Resource E02-02-01:
1. Sworn members assigned to units which normally receive assignments by radio may ("may" in bold print in the Employee Resource) be granted a personal not to exceed fifteen minutes during their tour of duty. The granting of a personal should not adversely impact the overall operations of the unit. A personal will not immediately precede nor immediately follow the designated lunch period. A personal will not normally be granted during the last hour of the tour of duty.
2. Officers will notify the police communications operator to request a personal. The police communications operator will acknowledge the requesting unit and follow the Office of Emergency Communications procedures for miscellaneous assignments. While in a personal status, the requesting unit will monitor the radio and will be available for assignment. If an assignment is received while on a personal, the receiving unit will immediately terminate such status and respond to the assignment without delay.
3. Supervisory members will monitor the members under their direct supervision to ensure that a request for a personal does not adversely impact the operations of the unit. If in the opinion of the supervisor the workload at any particular time is not conducive to the granting of a personal, the supervisor will notify the police communications operator to refuse the personal at that time.
Roll call today, 6 po's for a 3rd watch roll call. Next week, there is the PR nonnsense and we send 5 po's to that. What, we gonna have 3 or 4 po's at a roll call? We are so short, we start with a rap and then they end it to start a new one for 1st watch.. We're running a 3rd watch with 15 po's on the street? Get to a job and they FORGOT they called the police for a disturbance because they called nearly 2 hours earlier. If I had a business in this God Damned city, and I called the police and it took almost 2 hours for a pair of flatfoots to show up, I'd seriously want to have loud, angry, fucking words with the alderman.
If you're not allowed a lunch or personal to put the proper nutrients in your body to sustain itself through your shift and you're feeling fatigue, dizziness or are having trouble focusing, call for an ambulance and go to the hospital. Food is a necessity for the human body especially when you're carrying around an extra 20 lbs of equipment and you're in a highly stressful environment like the one cops are in which raises cortisol levels. They will be giving out lunches and personals like its nobody's business as soon as a cop does this. Just go to the hospital. Your health and livelihood is more important than the backlog and your bosses getting pissed at you. They obviously don't like you anyway and don't give a fuck about you if they're not allowing you to take a personal. Any of their ass kissing house bitches not getting a chance to eat during the day? You're putting yourself, fellow officers and the public at a greater risk if you ignore your symptoms of malnutrition. A tired, hungry and shaky cop is no use to somebody who needs the police especially when its arresting a violent criminal not to mention the fact that you could end up dead because you didn't have the energy to subdue a violent criminal and he/she overpowered you or caught you off guard.
After you get out of the hospital, get a CR number on whoever is responsible for denying you a personal or lunch and get a lawsuit going also. These are crucial times in which you have to take a stand against these careless and reckless supervisors who continue to endanger officers' lives more and more every day.
There's only one response to this...
STAY FETAL
I wish that asshat would try that bullshit with me 20 years+. And for that sgt forwarding that message he/she has no balls nor leadership skills. That sgt. is just other ass hack probably meritorious also. The balls of some of these so called leaders. Thats why this department is so fucked up!!!!!
Hey Bubblehead-if you tell Proctology Joe Moreno that he was shortchanged manpower (Sheriffs out of Wood St. don't count) and Navarro finds out-what will you do? Maybe retire before you're forced out or indicted.
The cmdr is retiring in Sept.
Ok, so if I get that order I'm going into the station and filling out 2 time due slips. One for each personal that I'm ordered not to take. And, if I don't get a lunch I'll fill out a 3rd slip for the lunch. Hopefully the sgts that log you won't put it down that each officer took/received the personals and lunch on their log sheet. That would be an issue then and, someone would be accused of lying. Either way if you don't/ are not allowed your breaks and lunches per contractual agreement then, you should get paid for it! This type of crap has to end. These supervisors should never be allowed to dictate policy as they see fit on a whim. They will quote our contract verbatim if they need to when it suits their purpose or, is to their advantage for something. It's not the po's fault we are short on manpower or, that the powers that be refuse to hire the officers that are needed to run the department smoothly. Also, no thanks on the famous "I'll take care of you another time" b.s. From the white shirts. I want nothing from them. Just what I'm entitled to. I don't want favors or, to owe anyone anything. I am so sorry I ever took this dam job with the city! 1 more year is what I repeat to myself. Sorry for the negative rant. To the city to sum it up: "fuck you, pay me!" Thanks for all you do SCC!
Speaking of violating the contracts how about those poor souls in summer mobile. They were picked because of what furlough they choose or didn't? The city are going to owe each of these PO's time and 1/2 when they win that grievance.
Thank to a pissed of citizenry, the aldermen are very much aware of the manpower -- all ELEVEN
Lieutenant, why do you keep looking up and over my right shoulder? Sir, I'm right here. (Turns around to see what the lieutenant keeps looking at)
9 people just shot in 010. Douglas / Christiana
Anywhere else in America it'd be a national incident. Here...just a Saturday nite
You have assigned lunch times for each car. There is a form the WC or DSS or whatever they call him fills out. Find our what time that is and Take your cars assigned lunch time. If you don't they will say you didn't take your cars "assigned lunch". Happened to me several years ago. Glad I am retires. Love you all and youre in my prayers. Be safe.
More mission teams!
Who's going to submit a design for the new squad cars? I'm thinking rainbow flag down one side, black lives matter flag down the other side, Mexican flag on the trunk, and "We ♡ Black People" on the hood.
Just bucking for that gold star.
My apologies to Lieutenant Spiro Georges, if he truly did allow the people to submit a slip for CE as claimed by 6/11/2017 12:51:00 AM. Apparently, he did think ahead.
Read the contract, you aren't guaranteed any personals. It's not even mentioned. I know because I got denied a personal once and looked. In fact the two personal thing is a myth. Look up the general order. You get one personal but it's at the discretion of the supervisor.
time to hit the medical roll!
OT
If you build it. They will destroy it.
Last night two persons shot on new Chicago
river walk.......
Is it me or anything that is improved
in Chiraq is turned into a battleground?
What the hell. Officer taking a report on Central Ave in 15 at 6:15 am gets involved in a foot pusuit as the females bolts. When requesting where the officer was another unit on the scene said the officer taking the report and chasing the suspect did not have a radio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the media is reporting what??? chirp chirp chirp
Anyone that does not request pay needs to have head exam. Take what is ever due to you. If you dont ask dont expect the city to pay you.
Did Georgas the Younger get coached on his promo tests?
People do what we allow them to. Telling someone you can't take a personal is a joke. When I need to use the bathroom I'm going! If the sgt or lt wants to write me up, go for it. That shit won't hold water & an action taken by them will fail
I remember another Spiro who stepped on his weenee. Spiro Agnew.
Can we have a bit of honesty here? The honest fact is that police officers are afraid to stand up to management even when they are justified. So what do you expect? Things like this will continue to happen.
If the midget at city hall hired more officers (closer to the 13,500 number) we wouldn't be in this mess. It would help our cause if our supervisors spoke up on our behalf as well. They know we are short staffed but remain mum and go along like company men. It is a safety issue for citizens and officers alike.
The 012 / 013 merger has been a disaster. So many beats are downed regularly. Last summer 1st watch was downing 3, 4 or 5 cars on the weekend. A district the size of two with only 10 beat cars on busy Friday and Saturday nights during the summer is dangerous, unnacceptable and leads to officer fatigue. And that increases the probability that officers will make poor decisions.
So many officers (and Sergeants) got fed up and bid out. Yes, the Sergeants were short staffed also. Check it out. The numbers don't lie. Like I said, the 012 / 013 district merger has failed officers and citizens. Huge response times, several beat cars downed, no wagon(s), no traffic car(s), no rapid(s) and no incident car(s). They wonder why we are in a back log, crime is soaring and officers are bidding out. Let it burn. Thorough investigation at every call, safe driving to every assignment, report written when warranted, arrest on signed complaints only, 1st & 16th. That is all.
Show city hall you appreciate them as well. Two can play this f**king game. Break them with their own rules before they break you!!
If you're not allowed a lunch or personal to put the proper nutrients in your body to sustain itself through your shift and you're feeling fatigue, dizziness or are having trouble focusing, call for an ambulance and go to the hospital. Food is a necessity for the human body especially when you're carrying around an extra 20 lbs of equipment and you're in a highly stressful environment like the one cops are in which raises cortisol levels. They will be giving out lunches and personals like its nobody's business as soon as a cop does this. Just go to the hospital. Your health and livelihood is more important than the backlog and your bosses getting pissed at you. They obviously don't like you anyway and don't give a fuck about you if they're not allowing you to take a personal. Any of their ass kissing house bitches not getting a chance to eat during the day? You're putting yourself, fellow officers and the public at a greater risk if you ignore your symptoms of malnutrition. A tired, hungry and shaky cop is no use to somebody who needs the police especially when its arresting a violent criminal not to mention the fact that you could end up dead because you didn't have the energy to subdue a violent criminal and he/she overpowered you or caught you off guard.
After you get out of the hospital, get a CR number on whoever is responsible for denying you a personal or lunch and get a lawsuit going also. These are crucial times in which you have to take a stand against these careless and reckless supervisors who continue to endanger officers' lives more and more every day.
6/11/2017 01:01:00 AM
What a great idea! Or, if your health is so important to you, perhaps you could avoid putting yourself in the hospital to play some silly game. Stop by a gas station or convenience store and grab a snack. You can eat it while you drive. You can eat it while you're working on a report. You can even hit a drive thru between jobs and get a burger or a nice healthy salad. Everyone talks all this shit about stupid bosses and their idiotic orders, but then they respond with shit like your idiotic idea and "get a CR number and file a lawsuit." Good luck with that. If you're too dumb to eat to avoid hospitalization, maybe you should eat before work and fill your pockets with powerbars. And let's all pretend we're using personals for emergency shits and not to sneak in a meal without using our lunch. And let's pretend the lunches in the last hour or two of the tour are because that's when you get hungry, and not because you're trying to avoid jobs and you know the next watch is on the street. My personal favorite is when people wait until they get called for a job before they ask for a personal or lunch... or sometimes even gas or a car wash. Everyone plays these lunch/personal games and now wants to pretend like everything should be done by the book. Be careful what you wish for. You've got more to lose than they do by making everything by the book. If you need to eat or take a shit, do it. Everything will work out just fine. But stop pretending like you need a special little 15 minute block of time in order to get food in your body. Cops have been finding ways to eat and shit for decades without being on lunch or a personal. Maybe you can ask someone else how it's done in between your dvd viewing sessions.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Roll call today, 6 po's for a 3rd watch roll call. Next week, there is the PR nonnsense and we send 5 po's to that. What, we gonna have 3 or 4 po's at a roll call? We are so short, we start with a rap and then they end it to start a new one for 1st watch.. We're running a 3rd watch with 15 po's on the street? Get to a job and they FORGOT they called the police for a disturbance because they called nearly 2 hours earlier. If I had a business in this God Damned city, and I called the police and it took almost 2 hours for a pair of flatfoots to show up, I'd seriously want to have loud, angry, fucking words with the alderman.
6/11/2017 12:57:00 AM
While I understand you're point, if they "forgot" they called the police, then they probably didn't really need the police to begin with.
So went to 12th St. beach yesterday the area was fenced off double fencing for the Dave Matthews concert so finally able to reach the beach because as you know it is hot the media The mayors office the office of special events were telling everyone to cool off at the beach so we're on the beach the four of us at 11 AM there was a sign on the lifeguard stand clearly stating beach closes at 11 PM. We were told as were other people we had to leave the beach immediately due to the Dave Matthews concert a public beach they closed due to this event. I asked why was told that people were coming And they were climbing over the fences and breaking into the concert venue that the public beach had to be closed!
People pay for parking $25 per car then were told the beach was closed but that after complaining they gave us a small area by the rocks near the conservatory and told us that we could stay over there for a little while all compacted in like mice or rats This is the city hopefully the media somebody takes this up from the friends of the parks how can you close the public area maybe they close the beaches like to get a couple of years ago because of the extreme violence maybe they expected violence at the speech and they know there's not enough police to protect the citizens the text phone people? No signs were visible when you enter the northerly Island entrance when you got on the beach are you going to see our two police horses the blue ones that say Chicago police on them no police were visible in the area simply because we obviously are extremely short on manpower!
It is bad enough you have to wait in traffic to get off the Stevenson Expressway due to the construction that is been going on for years to get on Lakeshore drive and then you have to deal with this nonsense. Who got paid off? Wasn't that Dave Matthews bus The concert they are blocking everything off for the same bus that dumped Shit on the bridge from their bus that was all over the passengers on the boat passing underneath the bridge? What was it a couple of years ago maybe? So now Rahm is closing public beaches and the hottest weekend of the year so far great job mayor great job alderman another reason to stay away from Chicago! Thanks to the Chicago Police Department for all they do with the extremely limited resources and terrible management God bless all of you.
I've never worked for the Cmdr of 012. Why do they call him Bobblehead?
Does not state labor law demand two breaks during the work day?
nonymous said...
I wish that asshat would try that bullshit with me 20 years+. And for that sgt forwarding that message he/she has no balls nor leadership skills. That sgt. is just other ass hack probably meritorious also. The balls of some of these so called leaders. Thats why this department is so fucked up!!!!!
6/11/2017 01:32:00 AM
you are a pretty funny guy. Looks like you never heard of the chain of command and orders and what all of that means. Follow directives and complain later.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of violating the contracts how about those poor souls in summer mobile. They were picked because of what furlough they choose or didn't? The city are going to owe each of these PO's time and 1/2 when they win that grievance.
6/11/2017 02:43:00 AM
They were picked by reverse seniority. It's not like they could get a summer furlough. Good luck with that.
That little pr!ck has little man syndrome.
He tried to write me up once. Hint = 99.99% of street coppers are smarter than he is.
You need or want a personal, go over the air and tell the dispatcher you need a personal because you have diarrhea. Use the word diarrhea.
You'll never be denied a personal based on that.
And if you are, then you request to go home to change your clothes because you had an accident.
These f ers think that they can do whatever they want to crap on the street copper.
Rest breaks (personals) are workplace standards that have been adapted over many decades.
While they are not law, they are common courtesy especially for a police officer.
Courtesy is something that Spiro knows nothing of.
He only cares about himself and how he looks to the greeks.
He is a weak little man. (in every respect)
When Spiro was at the Airport as a Sgt, he had more Radio Time than Larry Lujack!
He's scared of his own shadow! Don't trust him
Who gave Spiro the answers? His big brother?
Funny how there is money for a new state of the art high school, after closing several other high schools. But no money to hire more officers or pay our pension. Hmmmmm where did this money come from. HEY FOP YOU OUT THERE? IS SOMEONE WRITTING THIS DOWN? WHAT YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THIS?
North Ave beach went up for grabs last night and they closed 31st st. Beach last night.
You guys better have a strong bladder, your job gets stupider every day. Do they test for bladder control before they hire? I guess they figure if you can't eat you don't need to shit. Whatever you are paid it's not enough to put up with crap like this.
what a web we weave!
Commander BUBBLE HEAD knows almost a year before any festival is even approved.
He signs off on it just like those wacky Alderman.
Now the funny part is ask the commander how many free 3 day passes he received for spring awakening a 3 day music festival in 012.
Each 3 day pass goes for about 500 on the street and include free beer (VIP pass).
The commander has approved every festival in 012/013 and none have been denied. Look out for JULY!
Being tired is a medical condition and happens often on 3 day weekends. Always notify desk when you step out for grocery's while on the medical i usually take about 6 hours till 9pm . After 9 no home visits.
I aint begging for an RDO!
Manpower shortage??? Rhamacide said we are fully staffed so it must be true. That's why 016 has 3 cars up on midnights. 016 is so fully staffed it took 65 minutes for a car to respond to a suspicious man walking in and out of yards on 1612.
We got the message - it's every man for themselves.
If I got to go take a shit or piss! Then I'm going!
FUCK YOU LT.!
It is bossholes like this, is the reason people are leaving Chicago Police!
Just read this morning on Tribune website, "Police board to consider delaying the firing of officers involved in the L.M.D shooting and reinstate the officers". Chickens have come home to roost. The mayor is in trouble. I hope the officers sue the mayor personally. Take his money for his evil ways. The mayor is a REAL SCUM BAG
LAQUAN MCDONALD
Police board to consider delaying disciplinary cases on Laquan McDonald shooting, allowing cops to return to work
Jeremy Gorner
The Chicago Police Board on Monday plans to discuss whether to delay disciplinary proceedings for five police officers facing firing for their roles in the Laquan McDonald shooting investigation, a move that could eventually allow some of the officers to return to the police payroll.
We all know how resourceful coppers are and personals are not a guarantee and we all know that we always extend that 15 minutes to maybe 39 or 45. If you don't get your 30 minute lunch then put your slip in. If you can't get lunch let dispatcher know and request it. We all know we get over on this job and jumping on that band wagon is just wanting to stir it up. Yes we are short oeople, summer always does this. I guess some of us really hate thier job. What a shame.
Sorry guys not acting like a tough guy, but I would never put up with this. Probably why I only did 22 yrs and was happy to get out of there with my pension. Do every job according to general orders and you will really screw them. Better yet actually make a arrest every night long form someone for littering you can really slow things down. There's is no way they can deny a emergency personal to go to the bathroom have some balls.
Everyone in that district working should have filed a grievance and the union RICH AGUILIAR since ur there making $150 grand maybe u shud get off ur ass and file it on behalf of the Union!!!!!! In addition everyone should be filling out a slip
I work in a district where every time some of the p.o.'s get a job that might require paper, they request a personal. Just saying.
(OT) working yesterday yesterday had a call by 12th street beach security called they closed the beach at 10am for concert and wanted people on beach removed went and took a personal while thinks this stupidity up? Come on mayor you can't be this stupid or ca. You? Hot day media promoting beaches no signs beach closed idiots!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ok, so if I get that order I'm going into the station and filling out 2 time due slips. One for each personal that I'm ordered not to take. And, if I don't get a lunch I'll fill out a 3rd slip for the lunch. Hopefully the sgts that log you won't put it down that each officer took/received the personals and lunch on their log sheet. That would be an issue then and, someone would be accused of lying. Either way if you don't/ are not allowed your breaks and lunches per contractual agreement then, you should get paid for it! This type of crap has to end. These supervisors should never be allowed to dictate policy as they see fit on a whim. They will quote our contract verbatim if they need to when it suits their purpose or, is to their advantage for something. It's not the po's fault we are short on manpower or, that the powers that be refuse to hire the officers that are needed to run the department smoothly. Also, no thanks on the famous "I'll take care of you another time" b.s. From the white shirts. I want nothing from them. Just what I'm entitled to. I don't want favors or, to owe anyone anything. I am so sorry I ever took this dam job with the city! 1 more year is what I repeat to myself. Sorry for the negative rant. To the city to sum it up: "fuck you, pay me!" Thanks for all you do SCC!
Read the employee resource before you open up your pie hole. Call for a personal and get it but don't be surprised when you still get the job you were trying to dodge by calling the personal and sticking it to one of your other coworkers.
Lots of thugs and scumbags at 6 Corners rib fest. Do not waste your time and bring the family to this. Awful last night.
News keeps saying 8 shot on Doug/Christiana, it was fkin 9. Just to be exact.
When Spiro was desk Sgt. he almost had a heart attack because the coffee run he bought for the W/C wasn't back before the W/C went to a meeting downtown. The guy has washed so many balls he should be at a bowling alley. I have never seen someone so filled with fear while simultaneously tossing everyone's salad. The little creap makes my skin itch. He, distilled down, is the worst example of Grecian Clout ever. The Helens have no shame. I would rather work for a drooling moron than this spineless little toady. Coward in an number of situations, he will not think twice about fucking you over.
Grandiosity is a symptom of Bipolar Disorder.
Seems to be a requirement for certain jobs.
I wonder how many personals 1290 takes?.... oh wait he doesn't have to take personals because he's got very little responsibility and pretty much does whatever he wants whenever he wants.
Spiro's is OK he's just a shaky little fuck. Go down on your personals and call his bluff. That or get on the radio and say you'll be down at the Hospital for 15 mins taking a shit.
I never understood how someone who's future is assured can be such a nervous little bitch but thats Spiro. He really was better off at the airport where nothing ever happened and he could still play General MacArthur. He aint a bad guy he just needs a little time to get over his panic attacks. He's just not used to getting yelled at by commanders and having to show up to shootings and other criminal shit.
Its not like the rules apply to him.
"starts to think they can violated the Contract with impunity"..... STARTS ????? This STARTED along time ago & they know they can violate the Contract with IMPUNITY
Chicongo Swamp's primary contract is with Big Race, Inc. The contract with Popo is small change crap in comparison. Like a mortgage vs a mere trifle like the cell phone bill
The contract with FOP or whoever is just a prop to trot out occasionally "for show"....you know like the Constitution of the United States, meaningless documentation trotted out on certain occasions "for show"
Don't worry Lt BF and his merry idiots from 007 only work half a tour so they don't need to take a personal.
The GO on Uniform Specs is going to be changed. On details officers will be required to wear "DEPENDS".
In line with the contract the Department will provide the first one.
/s
A good policeman Never goes hungry, gets wet or cold. Words to this old copper that I lived by for 30 years. Ret in 98. Kell
Sorry, read the order. You are NOT entitled to a personal.
You're not guaranteed 2 personals each workday. Read the contract.
He sucked as a Sgt...NOT close to being a good supervisor and
DEFINITELY will NEVER be a LEADER !!!
What a TOOL !!!
SCC I have to correct you on one thing. In our contract no where does it say two (2) personals. You are entitled to a personal if approved by a supervisor and we all know his silence means approval. I was called out for taking 2, the Sgt even told me to look it up in the contract. He was just making me aware that we think it's 2 because we been doing it for so long. Spiro on the other hand is a rat bastard, was a punk in TRU and will always be a punk like it brother.
765B
"And for that sgt forwarding that message he/she has no balls nor leadership skills. ...."
OR maybe that Sgt was kind enough to provide proof of the idiotic order...(dont work in 012- could be the Sgt is a goof too)
As soon as the message was sent you should ask for a personal over the radio. Let them deny it on tape.
I know this sounds stupid, but that a bottle of water and pour it on your pants and tell your Sgt. you pissed in your pants. If your really a wild man shit in your pants. It's going to be hot, call for an ambulance with heat exhaustion due to a lack of food or whatever makes this boss look foolish. And the rest that will suffer under this order, OT them to death.
There is NO contractual agreement for personals, read your contract. There could actually be more then 2 or none.
Speaking of violating the contracts how about those poor souls in summer mobile. They were picked because of what furlough they choose or didn't? The city are going to owe each of these PO's time and 1/2 when they win that grievance.
Thought they were either volunteers or picked by reverse seniority. What do furloughs and how did they play into the choices
No nepotism here. Hey IG your a joke
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you're not allowed a lunch or personal to put the proper nutrients in your body to sustain itself through your shift and you're feeling fatigue, dizziness or are having trouble focusing, call for an ambulance and go to the hospital. Food is a necessity for the human body especially when you're carrying around an extra 20 lbs of equipment and you're in a highly stressful environment like the one cops are in which raises cortisol levels. They will be giving out lunches and personals like its nobody's business as soon as a cop does this. Just go to the hospital. Your health and livelihood is more important than the backlog and your bosses getting pissed at you. They obviously don't like you anyway and don't give a fuck about you if they're not allowing you to take a personal. Any of their ass kissing house bitches not getting a chance to eat during the day? You're putting yourself, fellow officers and the public at a greater risk if you ignore your symptoms of malnutrition. A tired, hungry and shaky cop is no use to somebody who needs the police especially when its arresting a violent criminal not to mention the fact that you could end up dead because you didn't have the energy to subdue a violent criminal and he/she overpowered you or caught you off guard.
You sound like the biggest pussy and crybaby I ever came across. Did you read what you wrote. Never could I imagine a po could whine like this
Malnutrition? No energy to subdue a violent criminal? Fatigue, dizziness lack of focus? The only thing you left out was a coma and death
Haven't you ever missed a lunch in you life. I must have been the luckiest po on the CPD because I worked with a few guys that were on a diet and that fought thru the malnutrition , dizziness , fatigue lack of focus and were able to perform with our daily fights and gun battles with a violent criminal.
Personals are not guaranteed....read the order...they can be denied at any time by a supervisor....everyone acts like they are so overworked on this job...quit your bitching and handle your jobs!!!!!
Cheating merits!
Anonymous said...
Sounds like the same crap that big mouth sgt. P.c in 24 3rd watch does. He tells p.os at roll calls no lunches after 8pm. This is even in winter and without knowing if the tour will be busy or not. Its only a matter of time before this brucey merit pick is hit hard by p.os and a civil suit or something else.
6/11/2017 12:50:00 AM
LoL As usual you can't even get that right. The phrase is "Lunches in and done by 9:30pm, no personals after 10pm". You might wish to check the GO's and SO's regarding his order. That "loud mouth" also made it in rank order despite your hate.
Why don't you man up and tell him what you think? What's the matter? Afraid he's going to swear at you again so you can file another beef? Grow up pumpkin.
Sgt. Phil
We all know how it works.
We all been on the job long enough to know how and what we have to do to get a thing done, in any allotment of time.
But when these so-called Up and Comer, Know It All Wonder Bros start dictating their own set of orders, it's time to lay down the bitchslap.
Put this sackless twerp in in place.
TAKE YOUR PERSONAL BREAK.
If denied - File Your Grievance.
Is he smoking the Rahm chronic crack that KN inhaled this week too?
It just must be a Bobble Jr Summer Try Out and he's looking for an edge for the October finals.
012 is no longer the unpolished gem it once was. Sad.
Can't drop a slip unless you stay the full 9 hours so that's a bad idea. Sounds like this prick will have coppers checking off late every day if someone tries that approach. I would take the personal if I needed it and see if someone called me out on it. These new generation bosses are too chicken shit to confront you...that's why they have a Sgt send a PDT message instead of manning up and saying something at roll call to your face.
Just take the 15 mins and force them to star you.
As long as coppers refuse to stand up for themselves this kind of shit will continue. There are many ways to fix this problem. Just use your imagination.
Doublr Merit.......enough said.
We're only short 1/2 a digit.
Anonymous said...
Sounds like the same crap that big mouth sgt. P.c in 24 3rd watch does. He tells p.os at roll calls no lunches after 8pm. This is even in winter and without knowing if the tour will be busy or not. Its only a matter of time before this brucey merit pick is hit hard by p.os and a civil suit or something else.
6/11/2017 12:50:00 AM
You must be new. G.O.'s state no lunches 2 hours the first two and last two of a tour.
"Squad", "Hold Me down on an on view disturbance"(insert location)...."I'll get back to you when I know what we have"...
15 minutes later...19P
Get it?
Where is the union?
Be like 018,Dont code your jobs Milk them.
6/11/2017 12:36:00 AM
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Hey douche nut. You think it's a game in 018? Go to Mohawk and Chestnut at 2am. I hate it there.
Wow. Thank sure sounds bad. I don't know the Lt and don't know his past. Everything else aside, he's been pretty fair and approachable on the watch. Heard him taking jobs and helping out on regular basis and siding with PO safety and common sense. Every district got those few who always "was just about to take a personal". Maybe a better approach to just address those people on an individual basis. Blanket edicts probably not as good.
This is why I miss our old 3rd watch fop watch rep in 012. That kid had a brass set and would stick up for us. He went to bat for many coppers and did so quietly withoUT anyone even knowing what he was doing. Now we have no one sticking up for us. And the unit rep is just useless and lazy only worried about herself and her tact spot. Well good luck M at being an et you are missed. 5 years can't come quick enough.
TO: Ok, so if I get that order I'm going into the station and filling out 2 time due slips. One for each personal that I'm ordered not to take.
Sorry Einstein, you're not compensated for a denied personal that may be granted by order, only lunch....
Lets get this straight. Spiro, a.k.a. Baby Gorgeous, got the merit bump twice. You would of think of the all the meritorious worthy type work at the crime fighting training academy that he would have reviewed and recalled from memory namely, the employee resource publications. Or maybe through osmosis.
What is meritoriously worthy to get that Lt merit spot in a Mon-Fri 8-2 choice spot in the training division shielded away from: (a) gunfire (b) risky police work (c) civil lawsuits (d) disciplinary headaches from taking lawful police actions to thwart uncivilized or unlawful behavior (e) working weekends or having days off cancelled due to manpower shortages that all those patrol division level districts.
When he was promoted comments on this blog praised the baby gorgeous for being smart, knowlegeable and hardworking. But he still couldn't master that training division materials while instructing others. Cheeseborger, cheeseborger, chips. Baby georgious is one of the supervisory trojan horses with proven supervisory qualifications. Or well placed connections in the family to be a made man.
(OT) Now this is great news bet they know finally jvd story is all bullshit and lies by rahm and his crew:
Police board to mull delaying disciplinary cases in Laquan McDonald shooting
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/laquanmcdonald/ct-police-board-van-dyke-met-20170610-story.html
Hope all the coppers involved after they are exonerated and rehired get all the back pay, plus millions in damages and they individually sue rahm, the 50 the entire cowardly cpd weak exempt structure enough of this, as usual going after the non-clouted officers! To the public yes a knife is a deadly weapon,and the punk thug was high on drugs and crazed, think if Jason would of let this animal walk and he stabbed and killed your loved ones you would be blaming the police! the police do a dirty necessary job to try and quell the excessive carnage and mayhem in this once proud city!
Public if you care hold the mayor and the 50 sheep followers to the fire get accurate accounts of how many police are employed by the city bet your eyes would finally be wide open!!
LOL- No personals? Then hold me in the station on equipment adjustment. No equip adj? Then hold me down using the fucking shitter!!! Next they'll be ordering you to submit to-froms to the dc for using the toilet. Unfucking real.
Just hire some people already, WTF.
Six Corners rib fest loaded with tatted up white trash and familia stones.
Tell your wives/kids to avoid.
Danger Will Robinson!
Today NY Mayor Bill De Blasio will march with a 30 yr prison veteran terrorist group leader NYC cop killer anti american.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/24/de-blasio-confirms-he-will-march-in-parade-honoring-puerto-rican-terrorist/
Keep voting DemocRAT!!
I can't believe how pathetic some of you sound. Going to sue if you're denied personals. Read the employee resource, it's right there in your face. The department has the upper hand with this issue, just like it does with 99.9% of the other issues that affect the blue shirts on a daily basis. If you haven't figured out that the deck is stacked against us and that the white shirts stick together to fuck the blue shirts, then you're beyond help. That said, if you need to get something to eat or drink, have the runs or need to stop at a Walgreens to get some Pepto-Bismol and you're officially denied a personal, YOU IGNORE THE DENIAL AND HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS. I don't care who it is, but they're not gonna stop me. They can go ahead and initiate the SPAR at that point, fuck them. Quit whining like a little pussies and act like adults. And double fuck any STUPIDvisor that would actually follow that asshole 1290s "order" and deny a personal.
This department is full of Sh!t. Passing a promotional exam does not qualify anyone to be a supervisor, and knowing every general order also doesn't qualify anyone to be a supervisor either. The Georgas boys are connected only because their sister was an attorney at Corporation Counsel under the Daley Dynasty.
With the excessive shortage, all P.O's should do the bare minimum possible. Police work is dead and over with!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you're not allowed a lunch or personal to put the proper nutrients in your body to sustain itself through your shift and you're feeling fatigue, dizziness or are having trouble focusing, call for an ambulance and go to the hospital. Food is a necessity for the human body especially when you're carrying around an extra 20 lbs of equipment and you're in a highly stressful environment like the one cops are in which raises cortisol levels. They will be giving out lunches and personals like its nobody's business as soon as a cop does this. Just go to the hospital. Your health and livelihood is more important than the backlog and your bosses getting pissed at you. They obviously don't like you anyway and don't give a fuck about you if they're not allowing you to take a personal. Any of their ass kissing house bitches not getting a chance to eat during the day? You're putting yourself, fellow officers and the public at a greater risk if you ignore your symptoms of malnutrition. A tired, hungry and shaky cop is no use to somebody who needs the police especially when its arresting a violent criminal not to mention the fact that you could end up dead because you didn't have the energy to subdue a violent criminal and he/she overpowered you or caught you off guard.
After you get out of the hospital, get a CR number on whoever is responsible for denying you a personal or lunch and get a lawsuit going also. These are crucial times in which you have to take a stand against these careless and reckless supervisors who continue to endanger officers' lives more and more every day.
I hope nobody underestimates the serious of missing lunch. A few years back my partner missed lunch and me being aware of the complications and not wanting to get beat up by a vicious criminal I called a 10-1 and a CFD ambulance took him to the hospital. When we arrived the ER nurse saw the uniformed officer being rushed into the ER and sprung into action. She asked if he was shot, stabbed, car accident or maybe a heart attack. We said no "he missed lunch". Her response was "I'll get him a tray"
Listen snowflakes
Take 3 personals today
He can't do anything about it
Take an extra ten minutes on 19-P
Take an extra half hour on paper jobs
I would TVB every asshole without a DL today
I remember Spiro from 024. I also remember when he was "the voice of NATO".
We have plenty of things to gripe about....This isn't one of them. We aren't guaranteed personals, The Order says MAY be granted. Nothing to see here.
"Sworn members assigned to units which normally receive assignments by radio may be granted a personal not to exceed fifteen minutes during their tour of duty."
Plus, if you havent learned how to take care of yourself in between jobs by now, shame on you.
That being said.....I always laugh to myself when I see people from 012 complaining....You know why.
Speaking of violating the contracts how about those poor souls in summer mobile. They were picked because of what furlough they choose or didn't? The city are going to owe each of these PO's time and 1/2 when they win that grievance.
Thought they were either volunteers or picked by reverse seniority. What do furloughs and how did they play into the choices
Not all units used reverse seniority. Some of the bosses kiss a-s pets have to be protected. Typical CPD bs.
Just take the lost personal time and add it to response times to calls. Couple minutes here, couple minutes there...obey all traffic rules responding, that sort of thing.
11:01 AM
May I take a dump, lieutenant? I'm not wearing Depends.
Personals are not guaranteed....read the order...they can be denied at any time by a supervisor....everyone acts like they are so overworked on this job...quit your bitching and handle your jobs!!!!!
6/11/2017 11:01:00 AM
Fuck you! You useless prick. You sound like the asshole Exenpt's thinking they can push P.O's just because they're supervisors. Where the hell have you been the last 10 or 15 years with the dangerously low manpower? P.O's are overworked handling stacked jobs because of a selfish Mayor and Exempt members with no balls to step up and tell the politicians we need more funds going into hiring more recruits.
Don't forget what it was like when you were a patrolman and the Exempt's would stick it to you. Remember that? Asshole!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you're not allowed a lunch or personal to put the proper nutrients in your body to sustain itself through your shift and you're feeling fatigue, dizziness or are having trouble focusing, call for an ambulance and go to the hospital. Food is a necessity for the human body especially when you're carrying around an extra 20 lbs of equipment and you're in a highly stressful environment like the one cops are in which raises cortisol levels. They will be giving out lunches and personals like its nobody's business as soon as a cop does this. Just go to the hospital. Your health and livelihood is more important than the backlog and your bosses getting pissed at you. They obviously don't like you anyway and don't give a fuck about you if they're not allowing you to take a personal. Any of their ass kissing house bitches not getting a chance to eat during the day? You're putting yourself, fellow officers and the public at a greater risk if you ignore your symptoms of malnutrition. A tired, hungry and shaky cop is no use to somebody who needs the police especially when its arresting a violent criminal not to mention the fact that you could end up dead because you didn't have the energy to subdue a violent criminal and he/she overpowered you or caught you off guard.
You sound like the biggest pussy and crybaby I ever came across. Did you read what you wrote. Never could I imagine a po could whine like this
Malnutrition? No energy to subdue a violent criminal? Fatigue, dizziness lack of focus? The only thing you left out was a coma and death
Haven't you ever missed a lunch in you life. I must have been the luckiest po on the CPD because I worked with a few guys that were on a diet and that fought thru the malnutrition , dizziness , fatigue lack of focus and were able to perform with our daily fights and gun battles with a violent criminal.
6/11/2017 10:58:00 AM
don't think it was a po
It's time for the Blue Flu for the 4th of July weekend, make this dept pay for their horseshit treatment of the police. They violate the contract daily and treat coppers like slaves. This bs has to stop.
Many of us rarely take personals and many of us only take one when we really need to. Heck, some days we would forego lunch. I bet any Sgt or above who feels the need to answer nature's call will do so as and when they want.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
LOL- No personals? Then hold me in the station on equipment adjustment. No equip adj? Then hold me down using the fucking shitter!!! Next they'll be ordering you to submit to-froms to the dc for using the toilet. Unfucking real.
6/11/2017 01:14:00 PM
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My department did this at one time. Made us make a "dispatch report" which are kept for eternity. Didn't last long after many followed my lead of complete and accurate reporting. (Which you should be doing on all calls ..... complete, accurate .. by the book paperwork on each and every call). Some how the practice ended when the local news started FOIA our bathroom reports.
Stay Safe....
Anonymous said...
Who gave Spiro the answers? His big brother?
6/11/2017 07:24:00 AM
No need. He was outed as a meritorious lieutenant.
Mohawk and Chestnut at 018? Must be nice to get VRI at the Row Houses.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/laquanmcdonald/ct-police-board-van-dyke-met-20170610-story.html
Bring back 013
Anonymous said...
LOL- No personals? Then hold me in the station on equipment adjustment. No equip adj? Then hold me down using the fucking shitter!!! Next they'll be ordering you to submit to-froms to the dc for using the toilet. Unfucking real.
6/11/2017 01:14:00 PM
Is it ok to take a picture of the contents of
the toilet after some stupidvisor lags you for
taking a personal without his/her permission?
Put Upon P/O:
"I was taking a shit."
Stupidvisor:
"I think you're lying, Officer."
Stupidvisor's Phone Says:
>PING!<
Stupidvisor:
"WTF IS THIS YOU SENT ME?"
Put Upon P/O:
"Proof?"
Stupidvisor:
"INSUBORDINATION!"
The manpower shortage is very real and
our less-than-esteemed leadership
doesn't even have the damned decency
to handle it like adults and implements
obnoxious, bitch-assed, throw a rock &
hide their hands directives like this?
If we had a Superintendent with stones
he would chain and padlock every watch
commander, district commander and area
deputy chief shitter city-fucking-wide
to make the point of how JUVEN-FUCKING-NILE
this directive is...
If the lowly beat cop can't have 15
minutes to take a shit in peace then
EVERYBODY will be similarly afflicted
until the nitwit issuing this pissant
directive is reduced to crying and
trying to sue for peace.
THAT.
Is what's fucked up about this job...
The lack of genuine adult supervision.
Bad and incompetent people are WAAAYYY
over-represented in the CPD supervisory
echelon.
Seriously.
Why have so many directives issued over
the last several years, been so intentionally
toxic and punitive?
Reading this from afar, all you chicago coppers should really start looking at other departments. The grass is greener elsewhere just do your research. I was miserable with CPD and couldn't be happier the last 4 years since leaving.
Not a big fan of Spiro but the blame lies w that frumpy incompetent female Sgt.
Anonymous said...
Sounds like the same crap that big mouth sgt. P.c in 24 3rd watch does. He tells p.os at roll calls no lunches after 8pm. This is even in winter and without knowing if the tour will be busy or not. Its only a matter of time before this brucey merit pick is hit hard by p.os and a civil suit or something else.
6/11/2017 12:50:00 AM
LoL As usual you can't even get that right. The phrase is "Lunches in and done by 9:30pm, no personals after 10pm". You might wish to check the GO's and SO's regarding his order. That "loud mouth" also made it in rank order despite your hate.
Why don't you man up and tell him what you think? What's the matter? Afraid he's going to swear at you again so you can file another beef? Grow up pumpkin.
Sgt. Phil
6/11/2017 11:15:00 AM
Phil up on dez nuts
Anonymous said...
This department is full of Sh!t. Passing a promotional exam does not qualify anyone to be a supervisor, and knowing every general order also doesn't qualify anyone to be a supervisor either. The Georgas boys are connected only because their sister was an attorney at Corporation Counsel under the Daley Dynasty.
With the excessive shortage, all P.O's should do the bare minimum possible. Police work is dead and over with!
6/11/2017 02:52:00 PM
ok IDIOT! So who do you want as supervisors and how should they be promoted (other than exam)? The merit process is broken and will always be broken - mistresses, spouses, girlfriends, sons, daughters, etc for the most part take the biggest slice off the merit pie. Do you want a promotional process thats 100% merit so that we can have the unNOBLE crew running everything? For what it is, the exam process at least generates some supervisors (managers if you prefer to use that term) that have a pretty good grasp of the law and/or directives and they can at least guide you in the right direction unlike most merit clowns.
I live in 012 and wondered where all the cops had went to. The remaining Hoboes are terrorizing this area, we need more cops not less. signed a citizen.
No personal. Ok, Squad give me a premise check at Norwegian hosp. Or, foot patrol at ABC Location. Hell, do an on-view. If you gotta go, and can't think of a reason to be held down, shame on you. Talk to some of the remaining revolver police and get some pointers. Stay safe.
I've never worked for the Cmdr of 012. Why do they call him Bobblehead?
6/11/2017 07:03:00 AM
Just watch this and you'll understand
https://youtu.be/t-OCjvbV2Z4
I cant PEEEEEEEE Fuk off
this guy would be removed if in private industry or our military
What a leader
Considering that the Shitty requires a permit (read: $$$$$) for festivals and events, which they claim to require not for $$$$ but in order to ensure "Public Safety and Order", one would suppose that this is so that they can ensure adequate manpower for same. That they now claim to not have the manpower means that:
1) They're bullshitting when they claim the permit isn't for $$$ but for Public Safety and Order
2) The Permittee is getting ripped off
3) They don't have enough cops in total to cover things
4) They have enough cops in total but are just imbeciles when it comes to scheduling and planning to cover these events
5) All of the above?
There's some IL State law that applies too:
From: https://www.illinois.gov/idol/FAQs/Pages/meals-breaks-faq.aspx
"What is the law regarding breaks and meal periods?
An employee who is to work 7 1/2 continuous hours or more shall be provided a meal period of at least 20 minutes. The meal period must be given to an employee no later than 5 hours after beginning work. Illinois has no law regarding breaks. For more information, visit the ODRISA page. (820 ILCS 140/3)"
820 ILCS 140/3 says:
"(820 ILCS 140/3) (from Ch. 48, par. 8c)
Sec. 3. Every employer shall permit its employees who are to work for 7 1/2 continuous hours or longer, except those specified in this Section, at least 20 minutes for a meal period beginning no later than 5 hours after the start of the work period.
This Section does not apply to employees for whom meal periods are established through the collective bargaining process.
This Section does not apply to employees who monitor individuals with developmental disabilities or mental illness, or both, and who, in the course of those duties, are required to be on call during an entire 8 hour work period; however, those employees shall be allowed to eat a meal during the 8 hour work period while continuing to monitor those individuals.
(Source: P.A. 88-73.)"
So, Cops have a collectively bargained ntract that establishes meal periods right? If these fucks at the City aren't abiding by the Contract, then it's a Labor Contract dispute - file a grievance. Every adversely affected copper ought to file a grievance - ask for time due AND the money for working that period. This isn't a penalty to the City, just a control - if they want you to work through lunch, then you need to get PAID for it and get time off. The idea being that you want to make it COST them more than they're gaining.
If it doesn't cost them more, then they're going to continue to screw you. Take due notice of who you're dealing with, and govern yourselves accordingly.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) working yesterday yesterday had a call by 12th street beach security called they closed the beach at 10am for concert and wanted people on beach removed went and took a personal while thinks this stupidity up? Come on mayor you can't be this stupid or ca. You? Hot day media promoting beaches no signs beach closed idiots!
6/11/2017 08:49:00 AM
Maybe they did not know what beach shooters would be at:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-violence20170611-story.html
Hmm rahm crew to warm?
Is it a rule violtion if a sgt. Marks "lunch taken" on thier log and you have not taken a lunch? Might be time to monitor that one.
A new order is coming out to deal with the NO PERONALS in 012.
Personnel Hygeine Items.
017-012B (B as in BUBBLEHEAD}
Officers will now be required to wear Depends undergarments while on Patrol in 012 the Land of BUBBLEHEAD. These undergarments will be worn under the prescribed uniform in a manner that will not be noticeable to the general public. Officers will also be required to carry a body odor spray to dissipate or mask any unpleasant odors in the event the depends become "full" and there is a chance the odors may alarm the public and cause panic.
Soiled Depends undergarments will be placed in a Bio hazard bag and brought to the Watch Commanders office for a replacement to be issued. Should the WC be unavailable the Biohazard bags can be placed in the trunk of 1200's unmarked car.
The manufacturer of these garments will be limited to R.J. Vanecko undergarments unlimited LLC.
Col Hannibal Smith
A-TEAM!
I don't have a crystal ball but I have a hunch that Cabrini Kim will soon make whizzing on the public way one of those offenses not worthy of her valuable and limited time and resources . So like this job, this city, this boss and the misunderstood Community, person. It's good for your kidneys
Always be prepared.
After your bowel movement, provide the supervisor with a 4 ounce.sterilized transparent plastic cup of your fresh feces and/or urine if a white shirt attempts to SPAR you.
6/11/2017 12:50:00 AM
You must be new. G.O.'s state no lunches 2 hours the first two and last two of a tour.
6/11/2017 11:56:00 AM
Hey, stupid. The tour for the early 3rd watch cars ends at 2300. So how is 2000 2 hours before the end of tour??
To the "funny guy" speaking about having to follow the chain of command, you miss the point. I have 20 + years on the job and I don't do "stupid" anymore. 20 years has imbued me with a sense often referred to as "common" but tailored to the job. I will follow the path you more than likely learned via the military, (and obviously still embrace) when shit is hitting the fan. That is without question. There can be no other way on a high energy scene.
However I will not deal with micky mouse bullshit. 20+ years has allowed me to look straight at a superior when given orders like this and just ignore them. It is that simple and it works because they are humans also. They know that what they are suggesting is ridiculous. They also have plenty of hair gel troops who will perform as requested. It is a ration they can live with. The trick is getting the "hair gels" to behave in a similar manner. That and some of you folks to grow a set and stand up for yourself. No one else is going to do it for you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's time for the Blue Flu for the 4th of July weekend, make this dept pay for their horseshit treatment of the police. They violate the contract daily and treat coppers like slaves. This bs has to stop.
6/11/2017 05:27:00 PM
rahm knows we can't stick together to do something like this.
OT
Report of attempt armed carjacking in 016. 4800 block of BrynMawr.
Hide your kids. Hide your wife.
Anonymous Try and stop me said...
I can't believe how pathetic some of you sound. Going to sue if you're denied personals. Read the employee resource, it's right there in your face. The department has the upper hand with this issue, just like it does with 99.9% of the other issues that affect the blue shirts on a daily basis. If you haven't figured out that the deck is stacked against us and that the white shirts stick together to fuck the blue shirts, then you're beyond help. That said, if you need to get something to eat or drink, have the runs or need to stop at a Walgreens to get some Pepto-Bismol and you're officially denied a personal, YOU IGNORE THE DENIAL AND HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS. I don't care who it is, but they're not gonna stop me. They can go ahead and initiate the SPAR at that point, fuck them. Quit whining like a little pussies and act like adults. And double fuck any STUPIDvisor that would actually follow that asshole 1290s "order" and deny a personal.
6/11/2017 02:45:00 PM
Good luck stopping by Walgreens after being denied a personal and given a battery in progress. You'll be dealing with that BS, you won't be stopping anywhere.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The cmdr is retiring in Sept.
6/11/2017 01:42:00 AM
Just like he was going to retire on April 15? He announced that at a DAC meeting in late 2016. Too many gambling debts to leave.
6/11/2017 01:01:00 AM
What a great idea! Or, if your health is so important to you, perhaps you could avoid putting yourself in the hospital to play some silly game. Stop by a gas station or convenience store and grab a snack. You can eat it while you drive. You can eat it while you're working on a report. You can even hit a drive thru between jobs and get a burger or a nice healthy salad. Everyone talks all this shit about stupid bosses and their idiotic orders, but then they respond with shit like your idiotic idea and "get a CR number and file a lawsuit." Good luck with that. If you're too dumb to eat to avoid hospitalization, maybe you should eat before work and fill your pockets with powerbars. And let's all pretend we're using personals for emergency shits and not to sneak in a meal without using our lunch. And let's pretend the lunches in the last hour or two of the tour are because that's when you get hungry, and not because you're trying to avoid jobs and you know the next watch is on the street. My personal favorite is when people wait until they get called for a job before they ask for a personal or lunch... or sometimes even gas or a car wash. Everyone plays these lunch/personal games and now wants to pretend like everything should be done by the book. Be careful what you wish for. You've got more to lose than they do by making everything by the book. If you need to eat or take a shit, do it. Everything will work out just fine. But stop pretending like you need a special little 15 minute block of time in order to get food in your body. Cops have been finding ways to eat and shit for decades without being on lunch or a personal. Maybe you can ask someone else how it's done in between your dvd viewing sessions.
6/11/2017 06:54:00 AM
DVD viewing sessions? Its called watching a movie ya fuckin tool and its kinda hard to do that when you're bouncing from call to call. And I'm not playing a game at all. I'm on a diet for health reasons that doesn't allow me to eat fast food or powerbars and I don't have to prepare my own food or fill my fuckn pockets with food because some fuckhole supervisor said no personals. And I'm shocked that I have to explain this one to you but many times I've gone to eat and sat down and was about to take the first bite of my food when I was banged on the radio so of course I'm gonna go down on a personal or lunch. What would you do? Leave your hot food and go to the call or eat? If you don't get that concept, you have an IQ of 15. You seem to take it personally that a P/O would get a CR on a boss. Don't take it so personally. You can still laugh at all their jokes and kiss all their asses and when you go to sleep tonight you'll still have dreams about running to their beckon call and doing just as they wish. Hope your dreams come true jizzelfuck.
How long can you run a Police Department on overtime and no down time. Pushing everyone to the limits.
Spiro is not respected by fellow supervisors, let alone Police Officers. He has a know it all attitude and has been handed everything in his career. He will tell you he's a veteran of the ghetto-what a joke. However, personals can be denied if necessary. That said, he's a goof.
Simple. If they won't give you time to use the washroom go to the hospital and tell them you are in pain from holding it in. Say I can't use the alley or I'll be fired and if I take time to use the wash room they will write me up and suspend me. See how much time the doctor gives you off to stop having pain. When it's busy make every domestic go in for an arrest and stall stall stall.
Tvb's and cheap arrests fix all. These puss Sgt's telling you lunchs by 930 and no personals after 10. What no bathroom break after 10. Un avoidable tvb's always work
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Six Corners rib fest loaded with tatted up white trash and familia stones.
Tell your wives/kids to avoid.
Danger Will Robinson!
6/11/2017 01:32:00 PM
Six Corners has a Rib Fest??
Bring back 013
Leave!
We have plenty of things to gripe about....This isn't one of them. We aren't guaranteed personals, The Order says MAY be granted. Nothing to see here.
"Sworn members assigned to units which normally receive assignments by radio may be granted a personal not to exceed fifteen minutes during their tour of duty."
Plus, if you havent learned how to take care of yourself in between jobs by now, shame on you.
That being said.....I always laugh to myself when I see people from 012 complaining....You know why.
Because they are from the old 13
Anonymous said...
I remember Spiro from 024. I also remember when he was "the voice of NATO".
6/11/2017 03:28:00 PM
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Surprisingly, that's the ONLY thing he did right.
He's is a fool.
Complete and utter fool.
The " Local Aldercreacher " is Wallace Burnett, A CONVICTED ARMED ROBBER.(Dont believe it, Google It. ) and hes been 012s alderman since the late 90s........ So what do you expect from him ????
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don't have a crystal ball but I have a hunch that Cabrini Kim will soon make whizzing on the public way one of those offenses not worthy of her valuable and limited time and resources . So like this job, this city, this boss and the misunderstood Community, person. It's good for your kidneys
6/11/2017 09:42:00 PM
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State never handled that job. It's an MCC charge.
Jesus Spiros take it easy. I can smell your computer smoking from here.
My advice is just dont read the Blog, "tho I know you cant help it".
You guys in 012 watch out. He likes to develop little snitches.
Why even the need to announce that personals cancellation shit ? Lol. You're in 012 hard charger. Is there not enough time during the tour for your troops to squeeze in a personal if needed? What an ego. Try zone 10. personals are rarely announced but yet we find ways and the time. This guy sounds like a real goof. That statement alone in a district like 012 has no substance merely a big "fuck you I'm in charge" annoucment for the watch.
DVD viewing sessions? Its called watching a movie ya fuckin tool and its kinda hard to do that when you're bouncing from call to call. And I'm not playing a game at all. I'm on a diet for health reasons that doesn't allow me to eat fast food or powerbars and I don't have to prepare my own food or fill my fuckn pockets with food because some fuckhole supervisor said no personals. And I'm shocked that I have to explain this one to you but many times I've gone to eat and sat down and was about to take the first bite of my food when I was banged on the radio so of course I'm gonna go down on a personal or lunch. What would you do? Leave your hot food and go to the call or eat? If you don't get that concept, you have an IQ of 15. You seem to take it personally that a P/O would get a CR on a boss. Don't take it so personally. You can still laugh at all their jokes and kiss all their asses and when you go to sleep tonight you'll still have dreams about running to their beckon call and doing just as they wish. Hope your dreams come true jizzelfuck.
6/12/2017 12:30:00 AM
So you're a fat fuck who needs special food. Great. There are still plenty of options for you to keep yourself from passing out and dying without hitting the McDonald's drive thru. You completely missed the point. If you can't figure out a way to get food in your body, regardless of whatever special diet you're on, even while running from job to job, you're an idiot. I'm sure you're the most overworked cop on the job, and you never have any downtime. Let me explain the other problem you have to you, since you don't get it. When you sit down and are about to take the first bite of your food, and then they call you for a job, that's your fault. I'd you want to eat your food, take lunch when you get to your lunch location, or after you order, or the second you see the food hit the table. You're playing games trying to squeeze in a few extra minutes on your lunch or personal, and sometimes it backfires. I'm surprised you were even clear long enough to get to your lunch location, order food, and have it served, before you got another call, because you're always constantly running from job to job, right Mr. Highspeed? Every cop who isn't a lazy piece of shit has left a meal or gotten it wrapped to go because they got a job, or someone needed an assist. I'm not surprised you find this to be ridiculous. Personals aren't for meals anyway, Skippy. While we're at it, foot patrol is done on foot. Maybe that will help with your "medical condition." If you want to insult me, you'll have to do better than jizzelfuck, because I and the rest of the world have no idea what that means. It does make you less anonymous than you wanted to be though, since I'm pretty sure you're the only person who uses that term. Good luck with your fatness and your constant need for food. And good luck with your CR because you put yourself in the hospital due to not getting a personal to eat your lunch. No one mentioned being denied a lunch though. Interesting.
Get the f..k out of here!! 012 is that busy you can't get a personal-- come on!!
6/11/2017 12:50:00 AM
You must be new. G.O.'s state no lunches 2 hours the first two and last two of a tour.
6/11/2017 11:56:00 AM
Hey, stupid. The tour for the early 3rd watch cars ends at 2300. So how is 2000 2 hours before the end of tour??
6/11/2017 09:54:00 PM
The early cars check off at 2300?
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Considering that the Shitty requires a permit (read: $$$$$) for festivals and events, which they claim to require not for $$$$ but in order to ensure "Public Safety and Order", one would suppose that this is so that they can ensure adequate manpower for same. That they now claim to not have the manpower means that:
1) They're bullshitting when they claim the permit isn't for $$$ but for Public Safety and Order
2) The Permittee is getting ripped off
3) They don't have enough cops in total to cover things
4) They have enough cops in total but are just imbeciles when it comes to scheduling and planning to cover these events
5) All of the above?
There's some IL State law that applies too:
From: https://www.illinois.gov/idol/FAQs/Pages/meals-breaks-faq.aspx
"What is the law regarding breaks and meal periods?
An employee who is to work 7 1/2 continuous hours or more shall be provided a meal period of at least 20 minutes. The meal period must be given to an employee no later than 5 hours after beginning work. Illinois has no law regarding breaks. For more information, visit the ODRISA page. (820 ILCS 140/3)"
820 ILCS 140/3 says:
"(820 ILCS 140/3) (from Ch. 48, par. 8c)
Sec. 3. Every employer shall permit its employees who are to work for 7 1/2 continuous hours or longer, except those specified in this Section, at least 20 minutes for a meal period beginning no later than 5 hours after the start of the work period.
This Section does not apply to employees for whom meal periods are established through the collective bargaining process.
This Section does not apply to employees who monitor individuals with developmental disabilities or mental illness, or both, and who, in the course of those duties, are required to be on call during an entire 8 hour work period; however, those employees shall be allowed to eat a meal during the 8 hour work period while continuing to monitor those individuals.
(Source: P.A. 88-73.)"
So, Cops have a collectively bargained ntract that establishes meal periods right? If these fucks at the City aren't abiding by the Contract, then it's a Labor Contract dispute - file a grievance. Every adversely affected copper ought to file a grievance - ask for time due AND the money for working that period. This isn't a penalty to the City, just a control - if they want you to work through lunch, then you need to get PAID for it and get time off. The idea being that you want to make it COST them more than they're gaining.
If it doesn't cost them more, then they're going to continue to screw you. Take due notice of who you're dealing with, and govern yourselves accordingly.
6/11/2017 08:38:00 PM
Are you fucking retarded? The meal period is called lunch.
The contract also doesn't say you have to do proactive police work
Anonymous Anonymous said...
6/11/2017 12:50:00 AM
You must be new. G.O.'s state no lunches 2 hours the first two and last two of a tour.
6/11/2017 11:56:00 AM
Hey, stupid. The tour for the early 3rd watch cars ends at 2300. So how is 2000 2 hours before the end of tour??
6/11/2017 09:54:00 PM
Hey asshole, the late cars never get a job after 2200 and are out the door shortly after.
"...Mohawk and Chestnut at 2 am....I hate it there..."
Wow Shirley. Most if the south side makes that corner look like Disneyworld. Guess what Lance---no Starbucks also.
The " Local Aldercreacher " is Wallace Burnett, A CONVICTED ARMED ROBBER.(Dont believe it, Google It. ) and hes been 012s alderman since the late 90s........ So what do you expect from him ????
6/12/2017 06:22:00 AM
A little soft shoe, maybe some razz-ma-tazz.
Spiro and brotha Steve "Greek Fire" Georgas have a great doo whop act. Check 'em out next Easter at 1017 N La Salle.
@ Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does not state labor law demand two breaks during the work day?
6/11/2017 07:06:00 AM
Since you asked...
Illinois employers must provide a meal break to employees who work at least seven and a half continuous hours. This break must be at least 20 minutes long, and it must start no later than five hours after the beginning of the shift.
So No....Breaks are not required...but a Lunch IS. It can be paid or un-paid depending on the CBA for a union shop. But paid breaks are at the discretion of the Employer.
Regards,
Finance Bike Guy, somewhere near Devon and Western this week.
State never handled that job. It's an MCC charge.
6/12/2017 08:37:00 AM
Exactly. If Stripper Foxxx doesn't want to prosecute the ILCS....figure a MCC you can ANOV for it.
Yes...I Know....hanging tickets to generate $$$ for the city isn't something you cops like to do thanks to the way the City has treated you over the years.
But if Cook County is being stupid about criminal prosecution...it might be time to figure out a way to cost Thug $$$ at the Muni level.
As I recall, you get court time to show up for ANOV's.
And can a cop here tell me, whats the ANOV code for a Junk Truck under 9-64-170? I saw one a few days ago on a Pickup around 7500 N Seely but couldn't read the writing of the PO that wrote it.
Just curious,
Finance Bike Guy.
I heard every squad car in 012 will be fitted with a portable porta potty to be towed behind the vehicle.
No need to take a personal just high tail it to the back of the squad.
Stick together for once
Well I'm sure he wont be in 012 long. He'll end up back at Ohare where he belongs.
I know 012 is pretty slow but they still get people shot and domestics and occasional Police shit. Its just not a healthy environment for a little Greek fella. Its not by accident 1/5'th of the Dept. puts in Par's for 8 openings at the airports.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I heard every squad car in 012 will be fitted with a portable porta potty to be towed behind the vehicle.
No need to take a personal just high tail it to the back of the squad.
6/12/2017 08:44:00 PM
So that's what the governor wan a be, J. B. Did with all those toilets he took out of his mansion to get a tax break! He sold them to VanDal inc. for their new porta potty division...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The contract also doesn't say you have to do proactive police work
6/12/2017 11:54:00 AM
That's a shame, because on any other job, a lack of job performance gets you fired.
what a goof, always will be ....political hack
The contract also doesn't say you have to do proactive police work.
6/12/2017 11:54:00 AM
That's a shame, because on any other job, a lack of job performance gets you fired.
6/13/2017 08:52:00 AM
The original comment was about proactive police work, not a total absence of police work. There is a huge difference. You should learn to read and comprehend before you start throwing shade.
That pussy Lt never worked a full tour of duty , merit , dummy
Listen up folks! Since they promoted me merit my whole career, I now know what is best for all of you. If you don't like it, my big brother will back me up and tell you that you are wrong too! It's all legit for me now so don't make me lose my cool. Now go out and get me some numbers so I can be a big boss someday!
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