Ret. Homicide Detectives Wanted
An opportunity to influence the way the media portrays cops - which might be a very big thing:
- Dear Second City Cop,
[..]
I just joined NBC/Peacock Productions in NYC as a development producer and it crossed my mind that you might be a good resource for my query. I’ve been asked by a network (we develop for all of them at Peacock) to create a series based around 2 retired homicide detectives, one male and one female, who have some riveting case stories they’d like to talk to camera about solving. The big issue is getting to know how their personalities and skill sets complimented each other to become a great team. Both partners would have to be willing to participate and I’m positive it would be enjoyable/rewarding for the right person (someone who really loved their career and enjoys telling stories).
Would you mind putting a post out to that effect?
Tracy Ullman, Development Producer
NBC Peacock Productions
tracy.ullman@nbcuni.com
Be polite if you drop her a line - she was instrumental in getting the County to dig up locations for additional victims of John Wayne Gacy that we wrote about back in 2012.
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
57 Comments:
I always loved Tracy's video "they don't know about us"
I can see it now...two detectives portrayed by Eddie and Lou from the Simpsons. After all, it's a Tracy Ullman production!!
Unfortunately, the wrong people will volunteer for this. The great ones don't seek the limelight.
Retired FEMALE homicide detectives? Isn't that about like a retired FEMALE Marine Infantryman? Like maybe a unicorn? I know there have to be some, like maybe...5% of the homicide detectives are women.
Hey SCC - for an insignificant blog, you have some interesting and influential friends. Wish i knew a good male/female detective duo. Now if Ms. Ullman was going to spin a yarn on good, honest blue shirts versus the diabolical devils sporting gold badges, there would be a dearth of examples. Add a few AlderCreatures and she could have a revival of the Ringling Bros/Barnum&Bailey Circus.
Retired .38 spl +P
I hope Dean Angelo don't get wind of this.
He's a pathological liar who would baffle them
with bullshit after binge watching episodes of
Highway Patrol, Dragnet, and the Twilight Zone.
Heard he's got a bad fixation on Steve McQueen
and Clint Eastwood.
.....and then there's the time the veteran old man
took the rook to the Latino Low Rider Car Show.
The rook just couldn't get over the elaborately
upholstered trunk with dedicated speakers playing
"Killing Me Softly." The old man explained this was
known as trunk music; the rook turned his head and
wiped away a tear.
Insignificant blog? I don't think so.
I could talk about a lot of war stories. None of them are true, but I can sure make them sound good.
No agenda on this, but asking for a male and a female? Wow, could they raise the bar a little more and hold out for a transgender?
(OT) RIP first responder brother:
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/local/260311790-story
Officers will flock to this for 25 $ cash.
Look up joining the writers union and what the wages are for this.
I figure Dean Angelo And DONAHUE can talk about the juveniles they processed when the changed their title codes to DETECTIVE from diaper Dick.
DON'T Do IT
I've Never met a Homicide Detective that didn't mind telling his stories...The Problem is, being a good homicide detective isn't what it takes to be a Homicide detective. You have to kiss a LOT of ass to get out of being an SVU, or Robbery detective first, unless you have some connection with the current brass. Not necessarily clouted, but connected. How do you think they staff the cold case unit?
I'm recently retired, and they are going to have to go waaayy back to find a real detective. The witness refusal statements, and Cameras in the interview rooms began the decline to a less than 20 percent solve rate over 10 years ago.
To be honest, it sounds like a boring show. I've been put into a coma by many a Detective who wanted to share his stories a little too much...
Then again, if Duck Dynasty can be a hit...
Hey, what about the female Detective Cheri Hendricks, she is outstanding, knows her job to the max. I think she is in Area North.
Anonymous said...
I hope Dean Angelo don't get wind of this.
He's a pathological liar who would baffle them
with bullshit after binge watching episodes of
Highway Patrol, Dragnet, and the Twilight Zone.
Heard he's got a bad fixation on Steve McQueen
and Clint Eastwood.
What wrong with steve mcqueen.hes a great clothing designer. He dresses the kardashians. And as far as eastwood, heard allegedly angelo was his official ass wiper.
Retired long time" Area 6 at Damen and Grace, Gang Crimes, etc...Don't talk to these MFs....
So, they want to create a show like Castle, except the dicks are retired?
And the ulterior motive is?
This is liberal TV don't forget.
Trust anyone in media, NBC especially, at your own peril.
Remember, they are who "developed" BLM.
I would nominate recently retired Detective Lieutenant Denis Walsh of the Area North Homicide Coverup Division...
1:01 AM is correct.
Gender "political correctness" runs amok.
There were no great CPD male/female homicide partners. Just men. When homicide/sex units existed, any outstanding female detectives were assigned almost exclusively to sexual assault cases. Ms. Ullman has been watching too many fictional TV episodes such as "Blue Bloods".
This is not intended to demean women in general policing. Using their feminine wiles, many excel over a blowhard macho male counterpart in defusing domestics and other potentially violent situations that could otherwise result in a homicide. Generally, women victims of sexual assaults may understandably prefer to deal with both a female detective and her gynecologist.
This is yet another reason why the CPD should track and give credit for solid felony arrests for index crimes. They refuse because most of their chosen brass would be drawing blanks when it comes to quality arrests. "Chicago values" must make way for gold-braided political hacks that couldn't find an elephant in a closet.
Just like the NFL, great homicide detective teams are male. I challenge anyone to name a female, retired or active, who consistently excelled as a HOMICIDE detective working the mean streets with an extraordinary clearance rate, "smoking gun" homicides excluded. Let's only cite initially unsolved "mysteries" and to a lesser extent, "known but flowns".
God bless the fairer sex but outstanding homicide investigations just isn't their thing. That also applies to most male police. A great homicide detective is a special breed.
Of course what would give retired detectives the authority to speak of unsolved cases which may be progressing since they have left the job.
It would seem that a show of this type may tend to interfere with an investigation rather that assist it. The detectives who are currently assigned to open investigations should be the only ones who are involved in this type of media contact. But of course that would also open the investigation to the view of the offender(s) and their attorneys. Seems to be a bad idea all around.
How about and HBO series called Rahm.
Already in the works -
Seiser & Seiser
(2017 - Crime, Drama, Mystery)
Starring Chucke Norris as Seiser and Seiser.
Storyline:
Sensei & Crimefighter. One is tough, the other is tougher. Don't worry about it.
Plot:
Super sleuth crime fighters and disciplined martial art professionals, Seiser & Seiser, portrayed as Sensei Seiser-san (Norris) operating a one man dojo by day, balancing the mind and soul principles of karate (kaa-rah-tay) in preparation for the nightfall transition into the lone Detective Long Seiser (Norris again) venturing out into the mean, dark streets of a damp, seedy urban underworld to solve the most horrific crimes in the fictional Gotham Gardens neighborhood of Chicago.
Pilot Reviews:
"Like Jekyll and Hyde without the sanity"
– VanityFlair
"Hooked on The Sizzzzze!"
– Peeple
"The hot and the cold of crime drama from one spigot!"
– Plumbers Weekly
anybody named george want to pontificate about holiday shopping state st. pickpocket detail?
I know this si way off topic, but wtf is going on now with the city craziness? the story went with wife and kids to shedd and they wanted to go on the beach close so we trudges over to 12th street beach area, were met by security and told "main beach is closed" I asked why was it maybe contaminated water?"Reply was no we are closing it due to dave matthews concert" asked what time it starts he said 7:00 PM. Time on my watch at this time was 1130 hours, no closed beach signs anywhere is it again due to the story of to hot for beach idiot gary and rahm did couple years ago? is there a threat? If not public beaches closed, no coppers anywhere as we are so short handed, i called channel 7 news desk they said we are "not interested" typical media who would gladly cover the story if i acting as a copper did anything on the beach maybe if we would of told the security guard to get screwed we would of had media coverage and a cr as a gift!
Did dave matthews pay extra to close the beach for his medicre music fest? Looked at dave matthews and found this gift he left for Chicago 12 years ago:
Matthews Band bus driver pleads guilty to dumping waste in river
http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-0503100266mar10-story.html
excerpt:
Wohl's guilty plea was the first time that the bus driver for the popular rock band publicly acknowledged discharging the waste. He initially denied the charge when interviewed by police, prosecutors said.
In a court hearing Wednesday morning, Wohl admitted that on the afternoon of Aug. 8, he discharged the septic tank while the bus crossed the grated Kinzie Street Bridge downtown, endangering about 100 sightseers riding the open-deck tourist boat passing under the bridge.
Passengers on the tour boat, Chicago's Little Lady, described a downpour of foul-smelling, brownish-yellow slurry that ruined their clothes and made several of them sick.
Bring back " Top Cops "!!!! That was a good show.
Could the message from someone who purports to be Tracey Ullman be a hoax?
Her first name is spelled TracEy, not Tracy. Check it out.
Tell Ms. Ullman to check with the Cabot Cove, Maine PD on Jessica Fletcher aka Angela Lansbury. However, she works alone.
Dear Ms. Ullman,
While you're no doubt well-intentioned, this is the REAL world. Non-fiction only. If you "succeed" in locating your objective , you must be satisfied dealing with male and female liars who outrageously embellish the mundane. I presume that with your intelligence, you are not delusional. On an anecdotal search, you may find extremely rare isolated real life incidents.
Best wishes in your other future endeavors.
This is gonna be a Comedy, right????
Bit of advice
Do not hire anyone that consults for CPD series , it is soooo phony
12:56 PM
Both Dave Matthews and Charlize Theron are AFRICAN-AMERICAN.
Nope. They shouldn't get anything from us. They want us dead, jailed, beaten and considered 2nd class citizens.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dear Ms. Ullman,
While you're no doubt well-intentioned, this is the REAL world. Non-fiction only. If you "succeed" in locating your objective , you must be satisfied dealing with male and female liars who outrageously embellish the mundane. I presume that with your intelligence, you are not delusional. On an anecdotal search, you may find extremely rare isolated real life incidents.
Best wishes in your other future endeavors.
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Dear Ms. Ullman,
I apologize for the jealous little tool that wrote the above post.
Death Investigation Detectives are investigating, what else but a Death:
Ya think?
Is the CPD's spokesman moonlighting in Ole' Miss or maybe it's the Cook Co coroner;
Seems if you have no head on your shoulders, that mmaaaaaaay be why you're dead...and if you find a noggin here and a torso there, ion the same day, it maaaaaaaaay be related.
– "Update: full body, headless. No apparent cause of death at this time. Awaiting Coroner and Medical Examiner's ruling."
(Jackson Police Dept. @JacksonMSPolice)
"Burned human torso, headless, found on Green Ave. near Grand Ave. Working to confirm if linked to this morning's discovery of a human head." 4:28 PM · Jun 10, 2017
How about a tell all about the Bradley sisters?
(Good luck getting that one aired).
Dear Ms Ullman
The drama isn't in the male and female homicide Dicks. You could have a never ending nightly hours long program highlighting the 750 plus minority murders annually in Chicago. Same script, Thugs kill thugs who kill thugs, aided by the Progressives.
6:09 PM
How dare you! I spent almost half of my career as a highly successful homicide detective, particularly on cold unsolved murder cases. Can you name any highly successful CPD female/male homicide partners? Again, I respectfully wish Ms. Ullman only the best.
What's your point, snowflake? Document or STFU.
The perfect man for the job.........DSLC!!!!
"Hey, what about the female Detective Cheri Hendricks, she is outstanding, knows her job to the max. I think she is in Area North."
Agreed. Top Notch & Very Humble.
Then again, if Duck Dynasty can be a hit...
6/11/2017 08:07:00 AM
Will the show be about the CPD? If so, it should be named Suck Dynasty.
05:18hrs. - Sorry that you didn't like the "insignificant" remark. It was strictly sarcastic since a former CPD News Director gave our favorite blog that adjective several years ago while IAD conducted a witch hunt to ID the author. I probably should have used quotation marks the first time for our new readers.
Retired .38 spl +P
Network television, network news all bullshit. If you want a good cop show, exceptionally done from story to production, I would recommend Bosch on Amazon. The episodes are 40 minutes, no commercials and you will not be disappointed. Trust me.
SCC gave me an idea on another post. How about "Rahmicide, Life on the Killing Streets of Chicago"?
Anonymous Retired Homicide Dick said...
Could the message from someone who purports to be Tracey Ullman be a hoax?
Her first name is spelled TracEy, not Tracy. Check it out.
6/11/2017 01:30:00 PM
No wonder there are so many cold cases with detecting like that. TracEy is a reasonably famous comedienne. Tracy (no E) is a behind the scenes production type. A few minutes with Detective Google uncovered this. Plus the esteemed host of this blog gave the high sign for her in the opening comments.
6/11 at 11:34 AM
Agreed. +1
"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." - Ernest Hemingway
You got that right, Papa. I really miss it. Most fun I could have with my clothes on.
Also the "Reality Check, Tracy!" poster at 11:34 AM is dead on.
You want the real deal just watch Barney Miller.
Hey, 02:39 PM, I just loved that quote. In another life, I was assigned to a robbery unit and yes we hunted the armed man. During that same time period I also hunted deer with a boyhood friend and it wasn't long while hunting armed men I stopped hunting deer. It wasn't because I felt any remorse hunting Bambies mama and papa, it was boring compared to hunting the two legged types. Again thanks for reminding me of the quote, the stack-outs, and mostly the best coppers I've every had the pleasure of working with before they combined robbery with homicide and called it violent crimes.
WELCOME TO HOMICIDE, TRACY!
I'd recommend Sherlock Holmes and JOAN Watson.
Oh, shit! Never mind. Benedict Cumberbatch and Lucy Liu are actors and wouldn't know lividity from rigor mortis.
Aside from being fiction, neither would smoke a cigar or use Vicks when handling a decomposing "stinker". They'd faint if they witnessed an autopsy.
Oh, well. I guess it's back to Square One, Tracy. Watch out for those damn maggots and blowflies. Happy hunting!
I'm a citizen with a question for homicide detectives. Do you ever really use chalk to outline a body? Do you ever use a rectal thermometer for estimating the time of death?
Thank you.
So Tracy Ullman works at 30 Rock, NYC. Keep it local. She should ask NYPD homicide dicks the same question. Predictably, she'll get the same response as given by "Reality Check, Tracy!" at 11:34 AM. She may get better results by chasing down unicorns in Midtown Manhattan and Central Park.
"A CPD Fan" at 1:03 PM
Chalk outline of the deceased = NO, it's a myth. However, we take several photographs of the the body. Sorry, "Chalkie".
Rectal Thermometer = Not in my experience. However, it could prove helpful to forensics in estimating the time of death by comparing the ambient temperature at the scene with the normal body temperature of 98.6 degrees.
Anonymous said...
Hey, 02:39 PM, I just loved that quote. In another life, I was assigned to a robbery unit and yes we hunted the armed man. During that same time period I also hunted deer with a boyhood friend and it wasn't long while hunting armed men I stopped hunting deer. It wasn't because I felt any remorse hunting Bambies mama and papa, it was boring compared to hunting the two legged types. Again thanks for reminding me of the quote, the stack-outs, and mostly the best coppers I've every had the pleasure of working with before they combined robbery with homicide and called it violent crimes.
6/13/2017 10:31:00 AM
When Robbery was Robbery, and not mixed in with Homicide, they were the real hunters of the Detective Division. The exception was Area #6 Robbery, they were noted for being the best dressed Detectives in the City, I shit you not.
Anonymous A CPD Fan said...
I'm a citizen with a question for homicide detectives. Do you ever really use chalk to outline a body? Do you ever use a rectal thermometer for estimating the time of death?
Thank you.
6/13/2017 01:03:00 PM
During the high heat emergency in 1995(?), the wagons had to take the bodies to a hospital and have the rectal temp taken to see if they were heat victims!
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