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That suburban arrest report summary with the humorous narrative we posted about on 26 May?
Here's the backstory and it's pretty much what everyone thought it was:
Here's the backstory and it's pretty much what everyone thought it was:
- On the evening of Friday May 19, 2017, police officers in suburban North Riverside pulled over a vehicle at 7200 West Cermak Road for an apparent traffic violation. Their curiosity aroused by the overwhelming aroma of marijuana wafting in the air, officers searched the vehicle and, unsurprisingly, discovered a loaded .380 pistol in the glove compartment. While attempting to unravel the mystery surrounding ownership of the illegal weapon and enduring another boring ritual of finger-pointing and repeated denials from passengers, officers eventually turned their attention to the occupant of the front passenger seat of the automobile, Alejandro Avila. Police at the scene discovered soon afterward Avila was a known felon with an endless string of gun and drug-related arrests attached to his name and an unmistakable affiliation with Chicago’s infamous Imperial Gangsters. An organized cabal of goons with influence over several expanses in Chicago and in nearby suburbs, its members’ clubhouse fun and games include murder, attempted murder, aggravated battery, aggravated assault and narcotics trafficking. Predictably, Mr. Avila swore blind he had no knowledge of the weapon.
When the matter was turned over to the Cook County State’s Attorney’s office, what began with a breathtakingly mundane traffic stop which should have amounted to a foolproof victory over crime in court peaked with Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx refusing to bid for a felony weapon charge against Avila for possession of a loaded weapon. Foxx’s utterly preposterous rationale for declining a felony weapon charge was honoring Avila’s “word,” a denial he was aware the loaded weapon rested in the glove compartment in front of where he was seated. Foxx’s faith in Avila’s denial came despite his rich history of lawlessness and threats to civil society, all of which is common knowledge to Foxx’s office. While questions persist over whether the State’s Attorney’s office would achieve a conviction in court and it remains a possibility the case endures, Foxx’s office declining a felony charge based on a known felon’s “word” remains an absolute outrage.
So the suburban cops wrote a quick narrative for what ended up being a RWOC (release without charges) report and put the blame squarely where it belonged - on Kim Foxxx.
We've been a part of many arrests where everyone in the car caught charges for whatever contraband they were transporting. We've also seen people (or folks) step up and take the weight to protect a girlfriend or a shorty or someone relative with a clean record.
But that wasn't even attempted by the State it seems. Everyone denies it, so nobody catches a case - that's a brilliant bit of political horseshit right there.
So far, only the alternative media (Medium.com) is paying any attention to it. The rest of the media has abdicated all responsibility to the taxpayers.
We've been a part of many arrests where everyone in the car caught charges for whatever contraband they were transporting. We've also seen people (or folks) step up and take the weight to protect a girlfriend or a shorty or someone relative with a clean record.
But that wasn't even attempted by the State it seems. Everyone denies it, so nobody catches a case - that's a brilliant bit of political horseshit right there.
So far, only the alternative media (Medium.com) is paying any attention to it. The rest of the media has abdicated all responsibility to the taxpayers.
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Off topic, but in relation to your earlier posts: there's a running them here. This city is not a very good place to live in, regardless of the neighborhood. Many of us, including myself, support the current FOP. So, in doing so I ask this: Start battling this at every turn. Corruption in this city is never going to end. However, Graham and his cohorts are in a pivotal time. And that time is this: fight what this corrupt mayor has caused: fight this hack supe, fight for a better contract. Because if you do not fight you're fuckin done. There's no such thing as work unless
You work hard doing whatever it is so, you won for a reason, punch the fuckin clock or get outa the way.
Concealed Carry is the only way to Protect you're self,Wild Wild West is back.
Sorry but the way you describe it this case does not have the elements. Part of the statute is he must "KNOWINGLY" possess the weapon . If it's in plain view at his feet or even visible under the seat you have a case to make although anyone who has dealt with felony review knows the state always likes a statement. In this case the guy doesn't even have to deny it. All he has to do is say nothing. Either way even though common sense says it's his you can't prove knowledge. Now if the narrative would have read " As RO approached the vehicle he observed the offender open the glove box........ " etc then I would hope it would have been approved. But in this day and age of body cams, dash cams, cell phone cams creative writing is not the smart thing to do so fuck it and let them kill each other.
The "community" has the likes of father Phaker who by the way has been awful quiet lately. They have these blm nitwits too. They go out and hoop and holler, march and make headlines. The normal, law abiding citizens have no voice. There should be well deserved outrage with Fox and especially with cases like this. Looks like we have another Mosby here who is clueless. Laws do not matter to these types only agendas. Is it any wonder that police are being shot at more frequently ? Why the hell isn't the Superintendant of police screaming to anyone that will listen about this crap ? Law abiding citizens should be disturbed by whats going on around them . Hiding from this reality will not make it go away. There needs to be an uprising of good people to take back this city from those in power who dont seem to care about the ever escalating violence and lack of prosecutions.
Yes when this was first reported by your website, I copied the image and passed it around. No one thought it was legit. I even sent it to all the media outlets, a few alderthieves and Robin Kelly. That is the congresswoman who while running for office starting crying when speaking about gun control. Not a person responded. Not a fucking one. With that being said, my kids are grown, all college graduates, so fuck you Chicago. The politicians who make the laws do not give a hit unless a photo op is involved or they are getting a taste.
Foxx is basically Cynthia Brim as State's Attorney?
A man's word is his bond. It's in the code of the West.
Where is Rahms outrage? He's outrage about gun control
A jury of his peers (And quite possibly even a judge) would have acquitted him of any felony charges related to that gun anyway, and we all know it. It is the times we live in. Keep the line moving.
I don't know how you think an ASA would present that case, as written, and win. Maybe they could get a plea out of it, but not likely.
Sounds like Kimmy will believe a criminal, but not a police officer?
Or was it because the officers involved were raaaacist white folk?
If the prosecutor doesn't think she's likely to convict (proof beyond a reasonable doubt), it's literally misconduct to prosecute- even if bare probable cause is reached. This was a turd of a case, regardless of how many times you've seen some dumb hoodrat plea out instead of fighting it.
Too bad Rahm, Dart, Foxx, and the Democrats are poisoning the relationship with the feds like the BATFEIEIO. The feds can put the felon with a gun away for ten years. Imagine if you could do that with every Chicago felon you caught with a gun? President Trump would be happy to help them if they got over their self destructive hate of everything Trump. He campaigned on using Project Exile nationwide.
Take gun toting felons off the streets. They are safer in prison. Their neighborhood is safer with them in prison too!
Kim Foxx and her bleeding heart policies are going to result in more deaths and more crime. But it is overwhelmingly Blacks and Hispanics that will die from the criminal carnage. The Democrats won't care, as long as Blacks and Hispanics stupidly and overwhelmingly support Democrats.
Gun in the car and no one gets charged?! Why even bother stopping any bad guy? They all lie 'til they die. With the logic of this political hack Foxx, these poor bad guys can never do such harm. Shame on the fools who voted for this idiot. Foxx has no concern for law and order. Let those ill-informed voters fall prey to this evil plan organized by the democrats.
Vote Republican !
In a city, county or state with an actual 2 party system this being on paper would ensure an election loss. God I can't wait to put this sh_thole of a state in my rear view mirror...
Kimm Foxx needs to be referred to the Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois.
Kim Foxx is political history once one of these bangers kills or maims somebody after the release without charges.
What La Kimesha and her assistants fail to understand is the fact that there are over 100 suburbs in Cook County. Some of these towns are in more than one county (Barrington is in 4) and see the difference that venue makes in charging/prosecuting. Some of the communities are not in the Prickwrinkle sphere of influence and will go to any lengths to illustrate Crook County's soft stance on crime. Hopefully, the lame stream media will be forced to tell the truth once their competitors cover the story. Their gushing over Kimesha during the primary election will eventually turn sour. Let her arrogant stupidly bring her credibility down. If you're an officer in one of the towns that support the Prickwrinkle, Dart, Foxx agenda - take heed and tread cautiously.
Retired .38 spl +P
Just like the Obama/Holder DOJ, the prosecutors are now defense attorneys, sparing no effort or taxpayer dollars protecting criminals and criminalizing the police.
The new leftist norm.
They don't want to put the felons The criminals in prison it does not fit the pandering narrative that is part of their voting pool. The police are the problem is the narrative that they want distributed the media follows this narrative. It gets to the point why bother policing the unpoliceable why bother jeopardizing your career your health most of all safety of the thin blue line. We have an extremely hot weekend approaching what is the over under murder and mayhem in this corrupt city state county? What matters? Protecting the thin blue line we matter we matter more than anyone else when the protectors can't protect the innocent and are not supported in anyway and one police do their job they are found to be wrong consistently!
This is what they want, let it go.
Democrats love their one party rule
You'd think that even some of these Libtards would CRINGE a bit with this NONSENSE....
Tsk, tsk, Kabrini Kim, and you had sooo much potential.
State's Attorneys order...of dude says he tried to register as a sex offender or violent offender (murderers have to register like sex offenders) they are to deny charges. PER FOXX! The ASA claimed it's a directive to review from the top...the reasoning?? SOME judges are lenient if the guy tried to register. This is all off of their word with ZERO proof of an attempt.
Was out and about last weekend and ran into a friend , ex police who is now an investigator with States Attirney. He said the job has turned to Shit. Kim Foxx hates the police and shows it without hesitation, especially Chicago Police and has made this very well known. He said it is a matter of time before they have a big issue in the office, zero confidence in her and the staff that she brought in after the election. CPD OFFICERS WATCH YOUR BACKS.
I don't believe the state could of secured a conviction on this one. The thing that disturbs me is the statement that the Offenders word should be honored. That's what struck a nerve with me. As for reaching out to politicians and the media, don't waste your time. It goes against the agenda and no politician is going to go against Prickwinkle. With that being said, please be careful out there.
For the love of god, to the dick head that keeps saying you need knowledge, NO, you don't. Ignorance is not an excuse and it hasn't been for years upon years. That legit, tells everyone that you are a dog ass copper who doesn't know how to do a simple gun arrest. So if you actually manage to leave your fetal parking spot and stop someone and you come across say, a brick of weed. As long as everyone in the car says "I don't know how it got there" or the classic "it's not mine, they aren't my pants, shoes, underwear, socks, etc.". You're going to say they lack knowledge and therefore can't be charged? If the "I didn't know" bullshit was legit, criminals would be getting off left and right. Open up a law book, look up constructive possession, read some case law and stop giving piss poor advice. This isn't rocket science
Sure the ASA's like statements, but if they don't get one, oh well. There is that crazy Miranda right that allows people not to talk to us.
Barrington is in 2 counties, Lake and Cook.
Impeach Kim Foxx!
If the libtards whining about Trump spent any time at all vetting their own, we would live in a much safer, saner world.
And the media will continue to clamor: Why, oh why, won't someone do something about all of these poor, poor citizens being shot and killed?!?! Why won't the police do something? Well, to the brain-dead, soulless media types lurking and trolling this blog, this SCC posts explains, why. It is too bad that the media refuses to grow up and mature into an institution that actually benefits society. Oh, well, the mayhem will continue to spread and worsen, in part due to the irresponsibility of the media.
their new game(uuw/felon arrest) is to C.I. the felony case. we were told by an asa K. that he/she was not denying felony charges... "we're" continuing the investigation. so we asked the asa what is the exact meaning of continuing the investigation. the asa related that we/cpd could not determine proof of possession of the hand gun buy offender (which was bullshit by the way) and that the asa would need the results from forensic testing. wtf?! so who gets in contact with the r/os when/if the prints do come back to jagoff... the state is not going to test for dna on a gun case in cook county. and I'm betting that if by some miracle that even if all of the above happened and cpd arrests jerkoff the asa still wont approve charges. rant over..sorry.
Fox is incompetent. Political hack and all out hater.
Can't wait until the young rocket scientists discover the happy hunting in Kimm's hometown of Flossmoor. (Sort of funny that she doesn't choose to live "in the community" that her inaction and insane politics are de-policing.)
No charges for felons with guns, no charges for smash-grab retail theft by the youngsters up to what, $2,000 now?
Have fun blaming evil cops after the yutes visit your town, Ms. Foxx.
Irregardless of this case Foxx is horrible and the new trend in all these Democratic left leaning counties and cities: Elect an anti police and pro criminal/ blm States attorney. In fact George Soros is putting money into some of these races to accomplish this. For someone who believes in law and order the big cities are forever fucked. Only answer is to move.
its not that you're respecting the guy's word it's simply that you don't have an admission ... big difference
I am on FOxx's side on this one
Where tge fuck is the ATF or FBI to charge federally?
Off Topic- Vehicle Pursuit Policy
Recently there was a car chase in my district. For the love of God- read the vehicle pursuit policy. It has so many restrictions and open/subjective language in it ("continuous balancing test") that you would have to be very stupid in order to engage in a vehicle pursuit.
How much more stress do coppers need? They want you to do nothing so obey the orders, it makes it better less stress, more breaks watch movies on Netflix park in a safe area take off your shoes relax play fireman respond to calls only! Watch #7 police vehicle Ford explorer with Armour watch the testing we need this here for our "war zone" which is city-county-state wide perimeter!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTMMzp5actM
Why is everybody so surprised?
Did not Kimesha "The Peoples an' Folkses Revenge" Foxx,
tell you all how she was going to run her office when elected?
Did she not also say that she was going to be at the
forefront of Police Persecution even when Officers
actions have been administratively and judicially
adjudicated as lawful/justified?
Did she not agitate for an additional, vindictive and
pernicious tertiary level of investigation/review into
previously adjudicated as lawful/justified?
Kim Foxx has shit herself by shirking her duty
as a criminal prosecutor and by turning her
office into a social justice welfare franchise
with more emphasis on the progressive and
perpetually aggrieved demographic sub-set
fantasy of revenge against society and The
Police that society sent.
And there are those who are all up their own asses
about how to "make" The Police be more proactive.
With the abject shirking of duty by the State's Attorney
and the fixation on ruining Policemen who by and large
just want to do the job they were sworn to do, how in
hell can any reasonable person blame Policemen for
becoming self-protective and taking a step back from
the assertive and proactive Policing of 1855 - 2000?
Why those dates?
Politely ask an old Copper
and they might be inclined to
tell you. Or not...
From 2000 on has been nothing short of
a scarcely managed free-fall of deferred
hiring, stripped-away funding to paper
over fiscal malfeasance and the increasing
credence being given to the "Fix The Police
So That Everything Else Will Fall In Place"
crowd that has managed to "get a seat at
the table and lean in" on all things pertaining
to Police and Public Safety in this town.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sorry but the way you describe it this case does not have the elements. Part of the statute is he must "KNOWINGLY" possess the weapon . If it's in plain view at his feet or even visible under the seat you have a case to make although anyone who has dealt with felony review knows the state always likes a statement. In this case the guy doesn't even have to deny it. All he has to do is say nothing. Either way even though common sense says it's his you can't prove knowledge. Now if the narrative would have read " As RO approached the vehicle he observed the offender open the glove box........ " etc then I would hope it would have been approved. But in this day and age of body cams, dash cams, cell phone cams creative writing is not the smart thing to do so fuck it and let them kill each other.
6/08/2017 12:57:00 AM
I don't know which statute you're reading, but "knowingly" is nowhere in the UUW statute. One who has a handgun in his possession is in violation of the statute, knowledge is not a requirement. By your reasoning, dude can walk around with a gun in his backpack and not be in violation of the law because there's no proof of knowledge. Sorry, but every subject in that vehicle is in possession of that gun. Get your "statute knowledge" in order before slamming others.
Charge the owner of the car, say "Fuck it" and move on.
Good lord, two defendants involved in a robbery, each points the finger at the other, so nobody guilty right Kimmy?
Anyone check the gun for prints? Just asking.
How much time did the Denial of Felony take? Almost immediately or after a few hours?
I wonder if Alejandro Avila had a friend in the SA Office or did a cousin make a call on his behalf?
Midnights is a tough time to get an fresh ASA, but they get their orders from a higher authority anyway.
I'm sure the ASA wrangled with a supervisor and was also put in place.
Hard to believe nobody in the car was locked up for UUW and all went home RWC.
(From the good writing contribution by Florian Sohnke)
"In Foxx’s paranoid, abstract mind..." and "Believing she is the lone arbiter of justice..."
Those two sentences sum up the entire article.
I expect the next candidates for Mayor, Superintendent and Sheriff will be required adopt The FoxWinkle Doctrine in order to be endorsed. We know the current office holders are already down with it.
One point to make about feral and likely illegal Alejandro Avila is his listed current address
which is about a mile from the last pair of armed thugs that made a bad decision to shoot at police.
Avila and his trail of shit is heading further into the NW and along with him comes his agitated rivals.
The neighborhood of Montclare-Dunning is now probably 70% gang affiliated thug in one way or another, but that's like 97% of any aldermaniac ward.
And there's no getting back to safe neighborhoods with Democrat mindsets freeing all felons.
All Chicago will look and be run like Detroit by 2025.
Build that Wall, and save some bricks for more jails.
this shows how badly this state needs a recall law. next time foxx is up for reelection, get out the negative votes.
Question: Could the gun been checked for prints (handle, barrel, etc.) and if the accused's print was on the gun would they not have a case? Or if the print of anyone of the occupants was on the gun would they not have a case as someone had to place it in the glove compartment and probably wasn't wearing gloves at the time. Also, apparently George Soros is making contributions to help to get DA's elected in some areas so appropriate conclusions can be reached in such cases. http://thepopulist.us/2017/06/soros-war-on-law-enforcement-state-by-state/
Unless the shitbird was wearing gloves secure the weapon and have it processed by an ET and have a gsr test done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caMtCuHLnXg
The MSM will lead with this instead of the rampant crime in our streets. I could care less about some idiot in Starbucks myself.
For the record that may not be the actual case report. I work the burbs. We use clear to process. We do not use it for case reports. Nothing I ever wrote in the narrative box in clear has been reviewed by a boss or submitted. It just stays in clear. Mt case report is done in a completely different program.
Kim Foxx is political history once one of these bangers kills or maims somebody after the release without charges.
6/08/2017 06:22:00 AM
Any normal place, yes. Here, as in Cook County, not so much, or at least, it isn't a lock. Her liberal voting base does not look at stupidity, incompetence and malfeasance in the same light as the everyday, rational voter.
machine in crook county , Chicago , special fed ed backed kimeshia foxxy
So by this Police rationale, if a Policeman had previously been accused of some transgression(s) related to his job, then all future accusations should be believed. The guys past bears no relationship to this incident. Was it his gun, probably; but not even a jury in DuPage
County would find this guy guilty. The ASA on Felony Review probably saved those cops from being sued over a bad arrest. Too bad they didn't see any further actions which might have tightened up the case. Oh well, at least they got a gun off of the streets!
No case. Good decision not to prosecute. No way to prove he knowingly possessed the gun. Has nothing to do with political parties or State's Attorney Kim Fox.
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Today allCommanders got called down to hq and got their asses reamed by the 1st for having the audacity to tell alderman the truth about being short officers. KN told them in no uncertain terms that he will DUMP any commanders who say they are short manpower. He told them he dares any of them to mention manpower at Compstat and promises they will be demoted on the spot.
Anonymous said...
This is what they want, let it go.
6/08/2017 06:53:00 AM
Very true!
As long as you Coppers continue to get mad/
get outraged/take this shit personally, it
will always be construed by the low information
democratic voters that there is "Someone"
left to do "Something" when bad genie
needs to go back in his bottle.
Fukdat...
Survive.
Escape.
Live out your days
among normal, morally intact
right-thinking people.
Let THAT be YOUR revenge.
If anyone needs a Federal Enema it's Kimm. She's purposely destroying what's left of decency in Cook County
It will be the same when it comes to crimes of violence. Take that to the bank.
it's just outrageous & a grave social injustice that Chicongo is not a Marijuana Safe Space. Should be cool to smoke weed anywhere anytime in Cook County. While we're safe spacing & free zoning the burg, why not Chicongo as PoliceChase Free Zone or safe space?
chicongoan's just love smoking weed while drive get-away vehicles at high speed. So let'em... btw, "rights" issues trump public safety issues Every Time so don't'cha even start to go there
Anonymous said...
If the prosecutor doesn't think she's likely to convict (proof beyond a reasonable doubt), it's literally misconduct to prosecute- even if bare probable cause is reached. This was a turd of a case, regardless of how many times you've seen some dumb hoodrat plea out instead of fighting it.
6/08/2017 03:40:00 AM
Tell that to Van Dyke!
Not guilty in a second.
It was said before on this site that despite all her faults Alvarez was the lesser evil. As for a Republican that will happen in this county when hell freezes over.
OT. Tinley fights residency and wins. Looks like Chicago is the only one not fighting for this to be lifted, all I hear is the It can't be done why bother. Whats up Chicago coppers how long do you want to wait to fight this outdated policy.
For the people saying knowingly isn't in the statute ITS IN THE FIRST F'ING SENTENCE OF THE STATUTE!!!!!
(720 ILCS 5/24-1) (from Ch. 38, par. 24-1)
Sec. 24-1. Unlawful use of weapons.
(a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he knowingly:
Bad report vote Republican !
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Today allCommanders got called down to hq and got their asses reamed by the 1st for having the audacity to tell alderman the truth about being short officers. KN told them in no uncertain terms that he will DUMP any commanders who say they are short manpower. He told them he dares any of them to mention manpower at Compstat and promises they will be demoted on the spot.
6/08/2017 04:14:00 PM
Another cowardly liar he fits well!
During summer mobile roll call today the LT said that a certain PO is putting slips in for every Friday and Saturday. Said that particular PO is using his contractual right to get days off when people below him need time and can't get it because of this PO. Lt then went on to say that he would call this PO out during roll call to all the other POs so that they knew who was screwing them over.
What a joke. It's our time to use when we want to.
Kim Foxx is the media and progressive darling and is untouchable, in fact she is being cheered. Foxx campaigned on prosecuting cops and she intends to keep her word. I sure hope someone steps up in the next election and runs against her, but the history of politics in Cook County says that a strong candidate will not step forward.Don't forget, a civil rights lawyer that made his bones suing cops for misconduct is not the prosecutor in Philadelphia.
News Flash people.... Not the first time a gun case being thrown out in Cook county.
When you have a token bitch like foxx picking and choosing whom to make follow the laws and prosecute, why the fuck should anyone obey or even pay attention to ANY laws?
The Illinois voters never had the chance to okay the drivers licenses for illegal aliens in Illinois or shitcago's sanctuary city crap.
Why should the illegals have more say than the taxpaying fools in our dump?
Finley Park to lift the residency!
CPD officers should do what other officers in other states do. The same stop he denies it is his gun then take the gun in then swab the bad guy if the DNA comes back to him then re arrest him for that stop,
Check the appropriate box on the time due slip and go home. What shitheads do and get away with should not bother you. When they wake up tomorrow they are still shitheads. Rahm is a card carrying jack off.
OT. Tinley fights residency and wins. Looks like Chicago is the only one not fighting for this to be lifted, all I hear is the It can't be done why bother. Whats up Chicago coppers how long do you want to wait to fight this outdated policy.
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Chicago and Rosemont, although Rosemont are at will employees. Too many Chicago coppers care about property values.
Have fun with that when some of these "mixed income" buildings go up and the shit is at your door step. Better get ready to fork over 600k for a raised ranch in Edison Park with a small yard. Hope Graham just sues so we can get out of here.
O/T..CFD not CPD here. Happy to hear the outcome of other night on W. George. Good guys win again. Best wishes to the officer who had a medical issue, enjoy some time off with the nice weather. CPD know there is a home there (and if you were there or work that beat you know the house I am talking about). If you need ANYTHING, a meal, something to drink, a clean bathroom or even if you need to sit in the yard and listen to the wind chimes and fountains for a few mins to regain your sanity you are always WELCOME. St Michael and St Florian please continue to watch over all us.
"Have fun with that when some of these "mixed income" buildings go up and the shit is at your door step. Better get ready to fork over 600k for a raised ranch in Edison Park with a small yard. Hope Graham just sues so we can get out of here."
yup but chicago coppers are holding onto some dream that this isn't happening. Its happening and at an alarming rate. After that excuse we will hear well property taxes are higher in the burbs so why would we want to move there. Or ill have to commute.
No one is telling you to do anything so why should you tell others we have to stay.
Lift the damn residency or at least fight instead of just saying oh thats impossible. Sue and take it to court.
This is the reason that I no longer do any Pro active policing. Why bother when old cabrini kimesha and her pee-ons will not approve charges. Why should I risk my life, lively hood and freedom for the demorats who run this county. A few more months and I will be renting a truck for a one way rental out of this state of corruption.
Just remember all you Crook and Chiraq demorats, you wanted a kinder and gentler police dept. enjoy the results.
6/08/2017 03:35:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
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Today allCommanders got called down to hq and got their asses reamed by the 1st for having the audacity to tell alderman the truth about being short officers. KN told them in no uncertain terms that he will DUMP any commanders who say they are short manpower. He told them he dares any of them to mention manpower at Compstat and promises they will be demoted on the spot.
6/08/2017 04:14:00 PM
He has neither the balls nor the authority from rahm to do so!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Unless the shitbird was wearing gloves secure the weapon and have it processed by an ET and have a gsr test done
6/08/2017 01:56:00 PM
A GSR test for what purpose Columbo? No allegation of shots having been fired.
6/08/2017 07:42:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
CPD officers should do what other officers in other states do. The same stop he denies it is his gun then take the gun in then swab the bad guy if the DNA comes back to him then re arrest him for that stop,
6/08/2017 07:49:00 PM
Only problem is u would still need an ASA to sign off on the search warrant for the buccal swab
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Fleet in its infinite wisdom has found another way to blow money to a connected no-bid company. After identifying all of the marked cars that have lost more paint then skin peeling off a sunburned Irishman, they decided they are going to "wrap" the cars in vinyl. I'm sure Vaneko Vinyl Auto Wraps has the contract. Can wait to see how bad these look slapping vinyl on top of peeling paint, rust, dirt and "parking lot damage"
Get used to it, this is what little Kimisha does. Protect thugs of color. Fuck her.
Check this piece of shit out. Anthony Zafiro, Humboldt park piece of shit. Charged 4 times with UUW, probation,prison, probation, probation, charged armed habitual, pleads to UUW. 4 piece. Can't lock up the voters.
This fuckin piece of shit was part of the Maniac take down after a little kid was shot in a park in 2011.
Fuck this city. STAY FETAL, Kimisha is.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
During summer mobile roll call today the LT said that a certain PO is putting slips in for every Friday and Saturday. Said that particular PO is using his contractual right to get days off when people below him need time and can't get it because of this PO. Lt then went on to say that he would call this PO out during roll call to all the other POs so that they knew who was screwing them over.
What a joke. It's our time to use when we want to.
6/08/2017 06:35:00 PM
This Lt. is a pussy of the highest order.
I'm sure yhe P.O. doesn't care, senority is the oder of the day.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
During summer mobile roll call today the LT said that a certain PO is putting slips in for every Friday and Saturday. Said that particular PO is using his contractual right to get days off when people below him need time and can't get it because of this PO. Lt then went on to say that he would call this PO out during roll call to all the other POs so that they knew who was screwing them over.
What a joke. It's our time to use when we want to.
I believe they call it seniority and it's in the contract
OT should sign the slips and stfu
Other po's volunteered for the detail and knew what they were getting into and the others were reversed seniority and they have to live with that rookie
For the love of god, to the dick head that keeps saying you need knowledge, NO, you don't. Ignorance is not an excuse and it hasn't been for years upon years. That legit, tells everyone that you are a dog ass copper who doesn't know how to do a simple gun arrest. So if you actually manage to leave your fetal parking spot and stop someone and you come across say, a brick of weed. As long as everyone in the car says "I don't know how it got there" or the classic "it's not mine, they aren't my pants, shoes, underwear, socks, etc.". You're going to say they lack knowledge and therefore can't be charged? If the "I didn't know" bullshit was legit, criminals would be getting off left and right. Open up a law book, look up constructive possession, read some case law and stop giving piss poor advice. This isn't rocket science
Sure the ASA's like statements, but if they don't get one, oh well. There is that crazy Miranda right that allows people not to talk to us.
6/08/2017 09:04:00 AM
You are the stupidest copper on the face of the earth. Do you not know how to read? Are you ignorant of the law? Do you not know what the ILCS is? Have you ever testified in court or even been to a court besides traffic court ? You need to read the statute if you can find it which I doubt.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For the love of god, to the dick head that keeps saying you need knowledge, NO, you don't. Ignorance is not an excuse and it hasn't been for years upon years. That legit, tells everyone that you are a dog ass copper who doesn't know how to do a simple gun arrest. So if you actually manage to leave your fetal parking spot and stop someone and you come across say, a brick of weed. As long as everyone in the car says "I don't know how it got there" or the classic "it's not mine, they aren't my pants, shoes, underwear, socks, etc.". You're going to say they lack knowledge and therefore can't be charged? If the "I didn't know" bullshit was legit, criminals would be getting off left and right. Open up a law book, look up constructive possession, read some case law and stop giving piss poor advice. This isn't rocket science
Sure the ASA's like statements, but if they don't get one, oh well. There is that crazy Miranda right that allows people not to talk to us.
6/08/2017 09:04:00 AM
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I know that you think that you are some kind great lawyer, but you are in fact wrong, you know. Just keep doing it your way and you will find out eventually.
Were there any fingerprints or dna anywhere on the gun ?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For the love of god, to the dick head that keeps saying you need knowledge, NO, you don't. Ignorance is not an excuse and it hasn't been for years upon years. That legit, tells everyone that you are a dog ass copper who doesn't know how to do a simple gun arrest. So if you actually manage to leave your fetal parking spot and stop someone and you come across say, a brick of weed. As long as everyone in the car says "I don't know how it got there" or the classic "it's not mine, they aren't my pants, shoes, underwear, socks, etc.". You're going to say they lack knowledge and therefore can't be charged? If the "I didn't know" bullshit was legit, criminals would be getting off left and right. Open up a law book, look up constructive possession, read some case law and stop giving piss poor advice. This isn't rocket science
Sure the ASA's like statements, but if they don't get one, oh well. There is that crazy Miranda right that allows people not to talk to us.
6/08/2017 09:04:00 AM
You are the stupidest copper on the face of the earth. Do you not know how to read? Are you ignorant of the law? Do you not know what the ILCS is? Have you ever testified in court or even been to a court besides traffic court ? You need to read the statute if you can find it which I doubt.
6/09/2017 01:19:00 AM
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agreed. You need knowledge. Period. The only 'crimes' you don't need knowledge for are traffic offenses. They call that 'absolute liability.' "I didn't intend to run the light" sorry, guilty anyway. For the murder statute I think recklessness is good enough. For most serious crimes you need knowledge, or at the very least recklessness. And if this semi-retarded officer is unsure of all this he can refer to that one book where it's "all written down." Here's a little tease:
(720 ILCS 5/24-1) (from Ch. 38, par. 24-1)
Sec. 24-1. Unlawful use of weapons.
(a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he knowingly:
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(4) Carries or possesses in any vehicle or concealed
on or about his person except when on his land or in his own abode, legal dwelling, or fixed place of business, or on the land or in the legal dwelling of another person as an invitee with that person's permission, any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or other firearm, except that this subsection (a) (4) does not apply to or affect transportation of weapons that meet one of the following conditions:
You may be confusing the need for knowledge with "inferred knowledge." Either way, you need knowledge. THat certainly doesn't mean the offender has to out-and-out admit knowledge, it can be implied no doubt. But knowledge is needed any way you look at it.
he had constructive possession. It was within his domain and control. People lie, its a part of life. If you have called felony review lately they have started throwing these words around "prosecutorial discretion" Basically they are telling you that they wont prosecute because they can. Having the gun processed for DNA and prints would help with charging at a later date when his prints or dna is recovered. Fucking sucks. These attorneys aren't your friends.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
CPD officers should do what other officers in other states do. The same stop he denies it is his gun then take the gun in then swab the bad guy if the DNA comes back to him then re arrest him for that stop,
6/08/2017 07:49:00 PM
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ya, in a year
What blows my mind is that dog asses are STILL debating that you can't make an arrest for this. You sound like great coppers. All anyone has to do is deny possession of anything and you let them walk. So tell me dog asses, what do you do with the gun then? Just confiscate it, inventory and send to the lab? Lol. Drugs in pocket, not yours? Confiscate, inventory let people go. Stolen vehicle? Didn't know it was stolen? Confiscate vehicle, let people go. Calling someone ignorant and yet not even knowing how to do a gun arrest, articulate probable cause, apparently doesn't know jack shit about constructive possession and thinks ignorance is a legit excuse to get out of charges.... I think I'll take my legal advice from someone who actually gets out of their car during the tour. Dog.
What blows my mind is that dog asses are STILL debating that you can't make an arrest for this. You sound like great coppers. All anyone has to do is deny possession of anything and you let them walk. So tell me dog asses, what do you do with the gun then? Just confiscate it, inventory and send to the lab? Lol. Drugs in pocket, not yours? Confiscate, inventory let people go. Stolen vehicle? Didn't know it was stolen? Confiscate vehicle, let people go. Calling someone ignorant and yet not even knowing how to do a gun arrest, articulate probable cause, apparently doesn't know jack shit about constructive possession and thinks ignorance is a legit excuse to get out of charges.... I think I'll take my legal advice from someone who actually gets out of their car during the tour. Dog.
You are an idiot How many people do you need here to tell you you are wrong. Being a dog has nothing to do with it. You talk tough but you don't know shit. The gun in a closed glove box in front of the guy is not constructive possession. And yes unfortunately sometimes you have to just eat it and inventory the gun or drugs and let them walk. You can print it and swab it for r a and submit for comparison. And if it takes a year so be it you come back and get him in a year. Yes it can be done. Obviously you have no experience with investigations or anything involved. Or you big shot you can grow some balls and say you saw him put it in the glove box but those days are over.
Good lord, two defendants involved in a robbery, each points the finger at the other, so nobody guilty right Kimmy?
Dumb Comment. If a witness identifies them - you may have a case whether they admit it or not.
However, in the gun case, with a passenger in a car-- and the gun in a closed glove box-- with no admission or witness to say the shitbird put the gun in there--you can't prove knowing possession.
It's not a matter of taking the shitbird's word for it. That's the copper's whiny interpretation. Without an admission by the offender, or prints, or a witness, you can't prove possession. It doesn't matter how many felony convictions he has.
Good call by the ASA.
I don't know which statute you're reading, but "knowingly" is nowhere in the UUW statute. One who has a handgun in his possession is in violation of the statute, knowledge is not a requirement. By your reasoning, dude can walk around with a gun in his backpack and not be in violation of the law because there's no proof of knowledge. Sorry, but every subject in that vehicle is in possession of that gun. Get your "statute knowledge" in order before slamming others.
To the guy calling people dogs, here is a little article about Constructive Possession.
http://www.dui-criminal-lawyers.com/dsmlaw-blog/illinois-constructive-possession-of-a-weapon
You might want to read it before you open your big stupid mouth again
Key Points: Constructive possession is established when the state demonstrates that the defendant: KNEW of the weapons presence and exercised control over the area. According to People v. Daniel Smith the only person that constructive possession would apply too would be the owner of the car/driver. Basically just substitute CAR for BAG and you have your constructive possession on driver, not passenger.
P.S. I'll take a DOG over a reckless, no nothing, super cop any day of the week.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don't know which statute you're reading, but "knowingly" is nowhere in the UUW statute. One who has a handgun in his possession is in violation of the statute, knowledge is not a requirement. By your reasoning, dude can walk around with a gun in his backpack and not be in violation of the law because there's no proof of knowledge. Sorry, but every subject in that vehicle is in possession of that gun. Get your "statute knowledge" in order before slamming others.
6/09/2017 07:50:00 PM
The word "knowingly" is right in the first sentence of 720ILCS 5/24-1
I don't know which statute you're reading, but "knowingly" is nowhere in the UUW statute. One who has a handgun in his possession is in violation of the statute, knowledge is not a requirement. By your reasoning, dude can walk around with a gun in his backpack and not be in violation of the law because there's no proof of knowledge. Sorry, but every subject in that vehicle is in possession of that gun. Get your "statute knowledge" in order before slamming others.
6/09/2017 07:50:00 PM
Knowingly is in the uuw by felon statute. Someone even posted it here. Your comment comparing a guy wearing a backpack and a glove box in a car shows your lack of understanding of police work and the law. I honestly can't believe you are serious and are not just yanking our chains.
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