Here Comes COPA!
- With broader powers certain to create an expanded caseload, Chicago’s new Civilian Office of Police Accountability opens for business Sept. 15 with 140 full-time employees, 90 of them investigators.
The 45 percent increase in staff undergoing seven weeks of training is apparently not enough to guarantee the independence that the soon-to-be-abolished Independent Police Review Authority lacked. That’s why COPA wants even more investigative help.
The agency charged with investigating police wrongdoing has issued a request-for-qualifications from “subject matter experts” with experience investigating and reviewing six different categories of cases: use of force; testing and analysis of ballistic evidence; crime scene reconstruction; forensic analysis of digital evidence; forensic medicine; and motor vehicle accident reconstruction.
Seven weeks of training? Golly, Detectives do what? Two months? Sergeants about the same. Lieutenants and Captains top out at a month or so, but their contention is their training "builds" on previous training, but that doesn't explain a lot of morons in the upper echelon.
And why those six particular categories? Ballistics? Medicine? Accident reconstruction? For what? We have State Police labs for that, people with degrees, subcontractors with expensive machines. This sounds like a patronage money grab, with a side of screwing the police at every single turn.
And hiring "subject matter experts"? Well, we suppose those are the people with all the answers.....Hahahaha - see what we did there?
They want you fetal, even embryonic.
And why those six particular categories? Ballistics? Medicine? Accident reconstruction? For what? We have State Police labs for that, people with degrees, subcontractors with expensive machines. This sounds like a patronage money grab, with a side of screwing the police at every single turn.
And hiring "subject matter experts"? Well, we suppose those are the people with all the answers.....Hahahaha - see what we did there?
They want you fetal, even embryonic.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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One of the new investigators is a former civilian detention aid and call taker. Swear to god.
hello 1000 homicides...
Takes recruits 6 months in the academy and they still don't know shit... my recommendation, have 3 lawyers on speed dial just in case you get into a jam... cause these clowns are all about jamming up blue shirts. Mark my words, rarely a white shirts gets jammed
"...fetal and embryonic..." the he'll with that. I'm just about comatose at this point.
All of the big bosses that were on the scene of the LaQuan McDonald thing are available and so is Gene Williams.
The Band "Yes" is well deserved taking its place into The R&R HoF. That's the way the City does this stuff. King Crimson, AJA, are all forms of the same.
Ole Neil, from Buffalo Springfield, is Crosby, Stills, and Nash or for your preference Crosby, Sills, Nash, and Young.
They keep coming up with nothing close to a solution, yet these various groups that are designed for us to believe this, yet again, as bullshit.
2)The Cops that worked over the 4th were dragging. Morale is no longer an issue that can go without addressing. If you were in Gresham, Grand X'ing, Seven, or the two West side Districts that's a shit job.
A shit job that will lead to divorce or worse.
You won't get out of a HELL HOLE until that call comes thru, you'll realize you have kids(no your trapped)and participate in a sort of indentured servitude.
Then drop at 50
Bag Pipes and BULLSHIT
-DeCaprio, You know another
Departed
Its the standard play - duplicate something done more efficiently in the private market and make the cost way more, then call it a savings when the gov't splits the difference in a patronage contract. Oh, and also put in a few patronigers @ $150k pensioned salaries to oversee that the contract is being lived up to.
Why not have the State Police perform the investigations?
Well, Besides the fact they the Illinois State Police are reasonably competent, knowledgeable, and familiar with the duties of police officers?
Gene Williams is a veteran Senior Subject Matter Expert. I'm sure that he would be able to contribute his talents to the new COPA. Oh wait...they're not investigating the most efficient way to facilitate cheating on promotional exams. NEVER MIND.
We have money for this but not enough to put butts in police cars in sufficient numbers to ease the massive shortages in many districts.
Do Garrity rules apply to our conversations to IPRA or COPA? What if a CPD supervisor orders you to answer questions from them? Had the FOP made an official recommendation for us?
Sounds like a great job, how do you apply?
And a certain number will be merit appointments, they won't need so much training 'cause they're already expert.
What's Jesse Jackson doing in the twilight of his career of public service? Maybe the good Father Pfleger knows some smart college professors.
I'm sure Rahm has already given them their marching orders as to how most of their investigations will go.
At the COPA (co) Copacobana
Can we please call the COPA office the COPA Cabana?
These "experts" are obviously going to be academics and lawyers, and not experienced police officers. Keep that in mind those of you who are still running and gunning. These new investigators are there for one reason...to over-analyze what YOU do, not analyze the offender's actions.
Detectives = 2 months of training after how many years of on the job training; 6 months in the academy as a recruit, then a district as a beat officer for how many years, perhaps a stint in a specialized unit or two.
100% of CPD officers have far more training than any of these COPA cabana fools will ever have. As for subject matter experts, I hope the FOP scrutinizes each and every one very carefully. Use of Force expert in State use of force as well as department policy, and given the new u of F rolling out how can anyone be an expert?
One thing will be certain, these "experts" will not be top of the line because it's a city job and the pay is not that good for someone with expert credentials!
Yet we still have officers being proactive. Being aggressive, making traffic and street stops.
I'd much rather have the money used to fund those 140 employees be used to increase the number of PO's in the 19th.
retirement yet? May 2018!
" Its over Johnny ". If you Don't stay FETAL now boys and girls you DESERVE to be where you will end up !
Fetal. Even embryonic.
I'll stay spermicial. ;)
At the COPA! COPA CABANA!
Just curious, is "diversity" a requirement for these positions as well, or will they hire white applicants with experience?
They forgot about the weatherman, starting tomorrow, if they are correct, we are gonna have 1 week of very nice weather. Let's have an over under on that.
Is it a waste of money if this "review board" totally neuters the police department as they apparently want? Then they can get rid of COPA.
I'm guessing they're planning on keeping all those taxpayer dollars for themselves, except there won't be any taxpayers left in the city, only their precious criminals and illegal aliens!
J.J.
Ha! Subject matter EXPERTS?? What a slap in the face after the cheating scandal with the UN-N.O.B.L.E crew. It appears that Eddie and his band of thieves have their hands all over this, dumb asses couldn't even come up with a different title... like traffic specialist, forensic advisor, ballistic authority, crime scene professional.
Being a school trained dancer qualifies one for mayor?
Barry Manilow---get out of ny head.
Don't forget also all the new people are going to try to make a name for themselves by hanging up copper they will pump up the dishonest media who will for 24 hours a day seven days a week broadcast how great they are as they bastardize the Chicago police officer as if they are they priced fish caught on a hook you want to keep your job you want to keep your freedom you want to keep your family you want to keep your house want to keep your savings simple answer stop being aggressive be a reactive police officer in the jungles of The most corrupt criminal felony filled City stay the fuck fetal.
Think of it this way the president of the United States of America Donald Trump will not set foot in this dirty swamp for example the president has been to every state surrounding Illinois after his election victory but yet notice he has not been here has stopped talking about it the carnage the blood just continues we are ladies and gentlemen the forgotten man and women we are on our own. The Chicago Police Department the honest citizens that are less we are all contestants on a reality show survivor Chicago! Best advice get your concealed carry permit immediately practice with your weapon always carry with a clearance rate and homicides in shootings under 18% protect yourself and your family get out of town when you do it you have to do God bless the police God bless the hones citizens that are left God bless this blog the spirits of the air do a phenomenal job of keeping us informed thank you for all you do!
They will hire retired cops, but you have to be retired 5 years, I guess after that amount of time your police mind is cleansed of being the police, I wouldn't last 1 day there, and with Lori Lightfoot running the police board, we don't stand a chance. They are firing everybody whose case goes to the board.
Anonymous said...
Why not have the State Police perform the investigations?
Well, Besides the fact they the Illinois State Police are reasonably competent, knowledgeable, and familiar with the duties of police officers?
****
Nice try, Leo
Retired, 30+
How about SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS to determin where 95% of the violence and property crime comes from?
How about SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS for where all Chirac revenue goes!??
Copa, Copacabana
His name was Rico
He wore a diamond
He was escorted to his chair, he saw Lola dancing there
And when she finished, he called her over
But Rico went a bit to far
Tony sailed across the bar
And then the punches flew and chairs were smashed in two
There was blood and a single gun shot
But just who shot who?
These outside experts will never get paid.
Sung to the music of Copa cabanna
Rahm a cabana (He formed the Copa)"
His name was Rahm, he was the mayor
With 50 thieves in his lair and taxes up to there
he would legislate and do the TIF funds
And while he tried to be a star
Madigan always tended bar
Across the crowded city, they stole without pity
They always asked for more!!
[Chorus:]
He formed the copa, To screw the Coppers
The crookedest spot of all , next to city hall
Where Lying with a passion is always the fashion
At the copa.... Rahm lost his police
His name was Van Dyke
He wore a Star
He responded to a call, he saw Laqan dancing there
And when he saw the knife, he yelled drop it or your life.
But Van Dyke went a bit to far
He should have stayed in the car
And then the bullets flew and Laqan was smashed in two
There was Cop and 16 gun shots
Rahm Knew who shot who
But he lied to you
[Chorus:]
He formed the copa, To screw the Coppers
The crookedest spot of all , next to city hall
Where Lying with a passion is always the fashion
At the copa.... Rahm lost his police
His name is Rahm, he was a mayor
But that was many years ago, when he used to have a show
Now it's a Black lives matter, but not for rahm
Still in suit he used to wear
The thieves have fled his lair
he sits there so refined, and drinks himself half-blind
he lost his teachers and he lost his cops
Now he's lost his mind
At the copa... don't lose your job
Don't vote for Rahm
Lt. S
OT but just quick note to thank all those who attended or otherwise supported the Police vs. Fire baseball game at White Sox Park ( or whatever it's called nowadays ) despite the threat of a rainout on Wednesday. Chicago Police came out on top this year at the Annual "Chicago's Finest vs. Chicago's Bravest " friendly first responder fun at the ol' ball park. Thanks to all that attended, supported the Chicago Police Memorial Foundation on behalf of our brothers and sisters killed or catastrophically injured in the line of duty. Finally, to all our fellow first responders who worked the streets that day ( and everyday ) so we were able to attend and 'pay it forward ' on behalf of our police family. God Bless and watch over all our first responders. STAY SAFE.
And let's not forget that officers are not becoming detectives right out the academy. Those young officers get seasoned by handling jobs (merit pukes excluded, of course) and learn how to handle themselves in various situations. Then mayabe after a few years and a few more waiting for an exam to be given and then a few more waiting for the results to be manipulated for the merit slugs to get tops spots, those hard chargers will get into an area and then maybe, maybe they might get to work on a police shooting or homicide.
These new "investigators" are nothing more than an anti-police army geared at fundamentally transforming our department into TMAs.
Lot of firepower for good shootings. Waste of money in my opinion. Overkill.
They had COPA investigators in the exempt Use of Force 5 hr training. One guy was knocked out asleep a female was checking her Facebook. When the scenario was done someone posed a question to them as to if they believed the shooting in the scenario was justified. They refused to answer the question only saying, "there's much more investigation that needs to be done before that can be determined". The whole room wanted to choke them. They were told the officer has a split second to make the determination but they are going to sit there and tell us it might take weeks for THEM to make that same determination?
If I am involved in any sort of physical altercation I am calling for a Bambulance and going straight to hospital. Doc, during the fight for my life with the person who was trying to kill me, my head hit the wall/pavement and I feel dizzy and my ears are ringing. And my vision is a lil blurry.
Tell your merit sgt that you are going to ER via CFD, and he/she will have to do all the paper.
If you are under doctors care and medications, it would be very difficult to interview you. The criminals always go to er complaining of pain, join them.
Protect yourselves. Avoid being proactive.
Any investigation, investigatory stop, traffic stop etc, no matter how small, WILL get you jammed up if you make an honest mistake, if someone complains or if there is even a hint of controversy. Best to avoid it all.
The time has come where officers need to realize that all risk involved in being proactive isn't worth your job, safety or mental well being.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why not have the State Police perform the investigations?
Well, Besides the fact they the Illinois State Police are reasonably competent, knowledgeable, and familiar with the duties of police officers?
7/13/2017 12:49:00 AM
That's easy. An outside agency can't be told what outcome they want. This way, Rham and company run the show and get to determine who gets jammed up or not. It's the Chicago way.
So how would someone determine if COPA is actually doing their job? By how many PO's get goat roped for being proactive and doing their jobs?
Staying Fetal IS the only option.
Post a Warning sign outside the. Ops Cabana that reads,
Dumbocraps at work, Enter at your own risk.
I want rahm on the stand during VD Trial . Did he obstruct justice ? Why was he in contact with IPRA , doesn't sound Independent does it?
VD must get all of rahm personal ,city emails ,telephone records , same with every command staff , unit CO on scene .
VD is innocent , ballerina LGBT boy paid off $6000000 to hush up offender mama , get elected then have AA indict VD .
Different name , same political patronage .
So Rahm just created 140 new full time city jobs? Must be nice to have that kind of money just laying around.
sounds like a good place to apply for a job with similar pay and benefits to police work but better hours and working conditions.
A. Lawyers numbers in your pockets
B. Any serious incident, perhaps you need to be checked out at hospital first
C. Any serious incident, keep your BIG MOUTH SHUT
D. Read, carry with, and memorize YOUR RIGHTS at all times (perhaps FOP could put them on a card to carry with at all times)
E. COPA! RAhm, Prickwinkle are NOT YOUR FRIENDS......each has an agenda
Scary times, boys and girls.....those 150 people who now got good jobs there will be very anxiously trying to KEEP them by putting you in jail
"Digging into uncharted territory" is more like digging through files and exhuming anything that tickles their civilian fancy.
Civilian here.
140 employees for COPA...and Rahm can't find any money to meet the city's pension obligations to First Responders.
The world has turned upside down.
These "experts" are obviously going to be academics and lawyers, and not experienced police officers. Keep that in mind those of you who are still running and gunning. These new investigators are there for one reason...to over-analyze what YOU do, not analyze the offender's actions.
7/13/2017 04:52:00 AM
Well spoken, and very true. Young officers please take heed.
Lets go "hard chargers" they also have a huge budget expansion and you know the people there will be out to "prove" they are great and hang any copper they can for anything,real or imagined!
copa recruiting video only the best sought:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICguK47rJyI
So if your unhappy at home, want to be the hero to cowardly spineless bosses, are tired of working late shifts go get the bad guys because your the next contestant on "Watch how we hang a police officer out to dry." As for me and my family I will respond to calls, back up any police officer as quickly as possible, slow roll to calls (Dont want to violate ghetto laws), play my new dvd unit, enjoy hot coffee,relax and follow the lead of our brothers and sisters at the firehouse sit eat watch tv and wait until next call that is the way to keep your job-family-sanity-pension!
God bless police throughout this once great country,and corrupt city!
I was promptly denied and shown the door, after admitting that I had previously worked for Lt One "N" formerly of Area North Homicide. Nice former supervisory reference by the way, they must read the Sun Times down there...
The new name for call back... Copacabana! It IS the copa woodshed, after all
her name was lola..........
she was a show girl............
at the copa......
The City needs experts to "review Chicago Police Department directives relevant to conduct at issue in the investigation"?
"Her name was Lola!"🎶
Compiling an additional data set to be used to
justify the undoing of Policing in America's
Democrat-Controlled urban centers?
>FUBUFY<
For us.
By us.
Fuck y'all...
(Tax Paying chumps
who subsidize all
the "Free Shit")
The working man is never
going to get this city back...
Of course they want you embryonic.
That way they can just abort you altogether.
Your unions are in on this guys and gals.
This is how the intend to "deal" with Pensions.
They are just applying more and more idiocy to the equation to make as many QUIT as is possible.
And it is working.
Aren't ya glad you have all those dues all these years, to support all those democrats all these years? We told you so and we would like our apology now. You know, before you quit in enough numbers to make their pension numbers passable.
Then they can set on about screwing the new hires all over again.
Anonymous said...
These "experts" are obviously going to be academics and lawyers, and not experienced police officers. Keep that in mind those of you who are still running and gunning. These new investigators are there for one reason...to over-analyze what YOU do, not analyze the offender's actions.
7/13/2017 04:52:00 AM
Honorably retired, experienced police
officers need not apply...
Y'all might skew to actual letter of the law,
logic and reason instead of upholding their agenda.
YOU... Are not "THEM."
"THEY..." WILL have their "REVENGE"
against Policing as an institution.
BUT!
You can bet a fat man on Friday that
retired, never-actually-passed-a-promotional-exam
exempts will suddenly become the vaunted SMEs
COPA is trolling for...
Gotta keep the gold star grifters fat.
Viva Hate.
I'm sure the creepy fake father flatulence will have some input. He seems to be an expert on everything
The same subject matter experts that gave away answers to police exams, thereby destroying the credibility of leadership within the police department.
So let's see who these subject matter experts might be.
Use of force?
Answer: Former academy boss.
Testing and analysis of ballistic evidence?
Answer: Former lab boss from the ISP.
Crime scene reconstruction?
Answer: Former CPD detective boss or ISP boss.
Forensic analysis of digital evidence?
Answer: Former boss of Technical Services.
Forensic medicine?
Answer: Former medical examiner.
Motor vehicle accident reconstruction?
Answer: Former boss of MAIU.
Or just some political hack!
It's the Chicago Way.
The city is currently advertising to fill the position of First Deputy Chief Administrator at COPA. Per the Scum-Times article published back 8 months ago, the spot was filled in November 2016 by a Thomas Kim who was poached from the NYPD's version of COPA. Kim must have either quit, died or was promoted to replace Sharon Fairley, the Chief at COPA, unless COPA has two First Deputy spots? Big money getting thrown at COPA for nothing! The takeover from IPRA to COPA scheduled to take place on 15 September 2017 and they do not have their people trained and now Kim has jumped ship? It seems the ship is sinking at the dock!
as you can probably figure out, if a cop is involved in use of force and COPA investigates, they will not take the word of the detective or of the crime lab but will use their own experts or evaluate the evidence themselves using their " subject matter experts". I can see a conflict coming here where there could possibly be a tug of war between COPA evidence experts and those utilized by CPD. Should be interesting. And, I can see a very expensive unit with lost of high paying patronage jobs going to those most unqualified, which usually is the case.
Had the FOP made an official recommendation for us?
Were there only some way to contact them and find out.
Hopefully they will hire experts in the area of "fecal matter". There will be tons of that stuff rolling down hill soon.
Find it amazing that folks have not seen the correlation of cops laying and going fetal to the skyrocketing crime rate. Of course while the people are focusing on those big bad do nothing brutal police our beloved Liberal Democrat politicians are continuing to steal everything in sight. A very bad sign is seeing 10 year old kids with guns robbing folks on the Gold Coast. Chicago is finished!
1/3rd more staff a bloated budget a recipe for disaster for any copper stupid enough to live the fantasy of the bosses to "be the real police" telling the bar stories of your exploits! As the media with teeth showing just waiting 24/7 to report on anything from copa and waiting to destroy anything related to "being the police!" We lost the war decimated in battle. Sorry the "see you at your fundraiser" for doing work will not be attending! Unless it's a copper or coppers family not going to be in a hurry the crook county courts release the animals and find many not guilty as the copper is the next unlikely members of the Chicago media circus compliments of their owner city hall that controls every last 1 of them!
Like the lie from Obama you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, if you like your family,like your job,like your freedom you can keep them all if you stay fetal now that is not a lie that is the savage truth! Young copper that backwards baseball hat,cheap jeans,gym shoes not worth it the "I work tact" routine is done very laughable don't be a total idiot and listen to the exempt morons "go get my m kid" they are all political hacks with absolutely zero sum gains for the working coppers. Look at them smile and laugh the jokes on them your saving your family and collecting checks!!
Don't forget about the"Experts" from the community...
WHY WHY are you folks still making any sort of stop. The only stop I make is to get coffee. This job sucks and its getting worse. Use your time to plan your escape from the cesspool that is Chicago.
Now sharpton coming here to start more anti-police bullshit :
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chicagoinc/ct-al-sharpton-donald-trump-0714-chicago-inc-20170713-story.html
If you're doing any police work I'm begging you get psychological help immediately!
The city of Chicago is telling you loud and clear- if you mess up, they are going to hang you.
They will hire retired cops, but you have to be retired 5 years, I guess after that amount of time your police mind is cleansed of being the police, I wouldn't last 1 day there, and with Lori Lightfoot running the police board, we don't stand a chance. They are firing everybody whose case goes to the board.
7/13/2017 08:11:00 AM
You are correct about the 5 year requirement, but there is not even one former police officer in the two classes they have hired. They don't want them. The first COPA academy class graduated on Tuesday, 11 July 2017.
140 new employees??? On the city dime!? Hahaha... Wow. Unfucking believable. City is buring up with crime and shootings not enough Dets even with the new hires (and this doesn't account for their learning curv). Clearance rate is pathetic but we have money for this shit!!?? Apparently this city is more concerned with investigating cops than investigating the shit heads causing all the mayhem. Let's focus on the police and not the behavior of the dwellers in the hood.
Fuck this dept and its politicos. Anyone doing more than what is minimally required in the south or west sides is just risking it for nothing.
in a few short years, the anti-PoliceForce will be way bigger than the police force....certainly off to a good start with 140 6 figure jobs, not taking fire or being run over by Chicongoans in cars.... hmmmmmm, if any of'ya wanna "pivot" a few years before pensioning out, this could be good, probably sweetened with a nice "signing" bonus ...a 20 year Vet "pivot" would be like a super-weapon on the Democrat's side in their fight against the police !!!!
Am sure many suggestions will be forthcoming....
Rahm has instructed them to drop the hammer on,or stick it in the ear of, CPD. Because that's what "the community" wants.
Trust me they'll be beholden to Rahm and they'll be anything but independent and unbiased.
Rahm a cabana (He formed the Copa)"
7/13/2017 09:20:00 AM
You are in the wrong business! That's hilarious! Thanks for a smile during grim times in policing.
rb
Will Rahm kiss ass sycophant Ferguson have anything to do with COPA? I bet he does.
Just some advice for all those hard charging south side tac teams.
Make sure that the time of arrest in your arrest report correlates with the time in your case report. Very important for court purposes! Don't have 4 tac guys doing the paperwork. Make it just 2 people so you can communicate with each other and get all the pertinent facts and times right.
Glad im retired. Kinda concerned they might open old cases .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
" Its over Johnny ". If you Don't stay FETAL now boys and girls you DESERVE to be where you will end up !
7/13/2017 06:32:00 AM
------
Should be...
"It's done, Johnny!" Society decides what Poleec department it wants.
I have an image of Special Ed and the Rhamster dancing with a feather boa when I hear the word "Copa".
Does any other profession have an accountability group for them? Teachers accountability? Politicians accountability?
Its preposterous, biased and continues to feed a stigma about cops. I'm offended. Where's my lawyer?
Don't be a sacrificial lamb at the alter of "crazy ass libertardians"! This isn't about laws or justice.... this is hate and payback. This place is done. Reform ? This place is one big bullshit magic show....and guess who is David copperfield?
City of Chicago seeking RFP (Request for Proposal)...interesting?!? What connected, newly formed Investigative firm by a former Exempt will get this contract, hmmmm?!?! Who's been gone for a year or more, hmmm?!?
https://www.cityofchicago.org/content/dam/city/depts/dps/ContractAdministration/Specs/2017/Spec437469.pdf
Oh, I can see it now. Here comes COPA to every scene where the police shoot someone and demanding to take everything over. And, I can't see them having an unbiased eye. They will be on a mission to prove themselves.
Oh, I can see it now. Here comes COPA to every scene where the police shoot someone and demanding to take everything over. And, I can't see them having an unbiased eye. They will be on a mission to prove themselves. There should be training of police officers from the FOP and their lawyers on how to respond to any investigation, what to say and how to write their reports. DO NOT take it to the bank that any supervisor or COPA investigator is now your friend.
Damn, SCC let me DOWN!! According to the job description, I am eminently qualified for the postion, but I see the posting has long since closed! I would even be willing to relocate to get on this "good deal". Then I saw this: Note: Per City of Chicago Municipal Ordinance #2-78-120, no investigator employed by the COPA Office shall be a current or former sworn member of the Chicago Police Department within the last five years.
Never CPD but that stinks to high heaven.
After a traumatic event such as almost getting killed and having to shoot somebody to save your life you may need to sign yourself in a psychiatric hospital for a few days. They are not even allowed to disclose you are even there let alone allow somebody to talk to you. After you get your head together (about 2 nights) go ahead and sign yourself out.
140 employees: who screens them?
Are they given psych evaluations?
7-week wonders judging career officers,
some with military experience.
Screen them for chips on the shoulder,
and connections to past disputed deaths.
Layoffs and reduction in force, and somehow
we have $$$ for desk workers who won't get
their hands dirty.
Another drain on resources.
Camelot: where Rahm parks his ride.
Why not have the State Police perform the investigations?
The city asked the ISP to do the investigations and they refused, as did every other law enforcement agency that they approached. The city then came up with that fucked up order dealing with "police related deaths". State law is clear, if there's a death, it must be investigated by an outside agency. The order is clearly in violation of state law, and every detective, and the bosses in Central and North know this. But assholes like Nagode(?) go to meetings after fatal police shootings and bitch that the detectives aren't doing anything. Well knucklehead, that because state law says they can't.
And IPRA/COPA is a complete clusterfuck. It doesn't matter how much money you throw into the agency, because they are forbidden by ordinance from hiring recently retired CPD detectives, who have more experience handling these types of incidents then anyone else in the country. The IPRA investigators are lost. A prime example of this is the Paul O'Neal shooting in July of last year at 74th and Merrill. 3 of the 4 involved officers are still stripped, with no conclusion of the investigation in sight.
If COPA oversees the police, who oversees COPA?
Just axin
Hey Rahm:
Go back to the tanning bed and get those tips died a little more white you little Miami Beach wannabee hood you!
Signed,
The Regular People of Chicago
Chicago coppers that are still doing work aka Tact and 06 baby tact need a psych exam.
To the genius who suggests checking into a psych hospital post-shooting: if you do so your FOID is auto-revoked and you are in no-pay within a week. Dummy.
Anonymous said...
After a traumatic event such as almost getting killed and having to shoot somebody to save your life you may need to sign yourself in a psychiatric hospital for a few days. They are not even allowed to disclose you are even there let alone allow somebody to talk to you. After you get your head together (about 2 nights) go ahead and sign yourself out.
7/13/2017 09:26:00 PM
Won't that cost you your Foid card and in turn your job?
Notice that the headline reads ACCUSED and not ACQUITTED. No bias there.
“Cop accused of shoving gun down suspect's throat sues city
Evans is seeking to be reinstated to his position as commander and earlier sued the city's Independent Police Review Authority, alleging the agency retaliated against him and set him up for criminal charges.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-glenn-evans-lawsuit-racial-discrimination-met-20170711-story.html
Too bad he's taking the, "It's because I'm black tack.
rb
Until you have worked as a Detective, you will never fully know and understand the job of a Detective. That includes sergeants who are assigned to the Detective Division. Side note, I just wonder who will be responsible for collect the evidence at the crime scenes and what role the detectives will play? It's funny that the organization that is put in place to investigate the police, will be trained by the police. You can't get around it.
Memo to FOP - Are you looking for competent attorneys who can be part of our FOP shooting team? Danny Trevino told great war stories at the Acadmey but we need real representation when facing the Lightfoot Lackeys after an OIS. And no new golf shoes this summer!
Retired .38 spl +P
"Subject Matter Experts"?
Like that self-proclaimed "Expert" Massad Ayoob?
In the know, or not said...
City of Chicago seeking RFP (Request for Proposal)...interesting?!? What connected, newly formed Investigative firm by a former Exempt will get this contract, hmmmm?!?! Who's been gone for a year or more, hmmm?!?
https://www.cityofchicago.org/content/dam/city/depts/dps/ContractAdministration/Specs/2017/Spec437469.pdf
7/13/2017 07:49:00 PM
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Soooo, the city has put the hiring of subject matter experts out for bid?
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
The FOP better be all over this cluster F.
Anonymous said...
They are firing everybody whose case goes to the board.
7/13/2017 08:11:00 AM
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And, then the coppers are suing the city and winning in Court.
So in the long run the city loses cause then they are ordered to pay back pay and restore copper.
Sad thing is that the coppers have to be put thru the wringer.
F Ipra
F Lightfoot
F the pc liberal agenda
You are correct about the 5 year requirement, but there is not even one former police officer in the two classes they have hired. They don't want them. The first COPA academy class graduated on Tuesday, 11 July 2017.
7/13/2017 03:26:00 PM
Graduated from where? The Chicago Police Academy? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Never CPD but that stinks to high heaven.
7/13/2017 09:13:00 PM
You can be eminently qualified, be willing to relocate and be willing to become a COPA Cabana, tutu wearing, loyal follower of Rahmmie, it would make no difference without the hook up or the phone call. This is Chicago. No phone call, no job.
What subject matter? How you learned to mess with the Police when you was in the hood, or what it was like to smoke weed and drive with no license and we hy the police stopped your car. MUTTS.
DO these clowns get a pension?
What about all the bosses at COPA what pension are they in?
Or are they on a 401 k plan?
it is a new government office?
How many old IPRA people stayed?
TIME FOR FOP to pull a FOIA?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Glad im retired. Kinda concerned they might open old cases .
7/13/2017 04:30:00 PM
Well... With C/R files dating back to 1967 having been
FOI'd and eventually sued for to be obtained, those
to whom Policing is an honorable family business,
should be VERY concerned.
The haters at ACLU seem to be constructing a
"Family Tree" of sorts in the ongoing "revenge
against The Police" saga.
They seem to want to prove some kind of ingrained
cultural bias against perpetually aggrieved members
of "the community" to establish footing for destroying
The Police and Policing and remake them into some-
thing that gives them a tingle down their leg...
Hell... They might try to convene something for you
"racist cop" families akin to the "Cadaver Synods"
of the early Middle Ages where the dead were
disinterred, dressed in new clothing and put on trial
for their "crimes."
ANYTHING... To "investigate" The Police and "prove"
a bullshit narrative.
Heh...
Can "We The People" have LBJ's "Great Society"
legislation proven to be nothing more than a 50+
year, multi-Trillion Dollar misallocation of taxpayer
treasure tha has proven to be THE most destructive
and divisive political and social engineering gambit
ever foisted on an allegedly free people?
Just sayin'...
Or is it "racist" to examine and question
what is happening?
"You Cops are just pissed because WE'RE
FINALLY 'holding you accountable' now..."
Until you have worked as a Detective, you will never fully know and understand the job of a Detective. That includes sergeants who are assigned to the Detective Division. Side note, I just wonder who will be responsible for collect the evidence at the crime scenes and what role the detectives will play? It's funny that the organization that is put in place to investigate the police, will be trained by the police. You can't get around it.
7/14/2017 06:50:00 AM
They do not want to fully know and understand the job of a Detective. They are striving to create a new paradigm. Ridiculous and they will soon realize the folly of their effort.
Won't that cost you your Foid card and in turn your job?
7/14/2017 12:55:00 AM
I don't guess that is how it works. In order to be a prohibited person you have to be locked up against your will, and even then diagnosed with a ongoing condition.
Besides, any cop done like that would sue instantly, for their job and their rights. This would likely lead to the end to the FOID entirely so there is no way it would be pursued to the point of snatching the foid OR termination. See, they like to protect their nefarious gun control by refusing to prosecute situations like they SAY they want prosecute, they do it the most be protecting the case law. Sure, they will be happy to work it to get someone to PLEA but if a person won't beg for a plea, instead fight back - like a cop for a his job - they just drop the charges (likely in a situation like that they won't charge at all much less even bother to try to snatch the foid.
If COPA oversees the police, who oversees COPA?
Just axin
7/13/2017 10:38:00 PM
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Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
After a traumatic event such as almost getting killed and having to shoot somebody to save your life you may need to sign yourself in a psychiatric hospital for a few days. They are not even allowed to disclose you are even there let alone allow somebody to talk to you. After you get your head together (about 2 nights) go ahead and sign yourself out.
7/13/2017 09:26:00 PM
Won't that cost you your Foid card and in turn your job?
No foid card, no job. And the hospital will notify them and state police for the foid card
Graduated from where? The Chicago Police Academy? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
7/14/2017 07:52:00 AM
Are you a lunatic?
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