You've Come a Long Way Baby
- The Chicago Police Department has “come a long way” to alleviate the concerns of civil rights activists about officers stopping minorities for questioning, a retired federal magistrate judge said in a report released Wednesday.
Arlander Keys is studying cops’ stops under an agreement that took effect on Jan. 1, 2016 between the department and the American Civil Liberties Union. The ACLU had criticized the police for disproportionately stopping minorities and failing to list lawful reasons for stops on the “contact cards” they were supposed to fill out.
In his latest report, Keys said he was unable to determine — or rule out — that the department’s stop-and-frisk policies and practices have an unlawful, disproportionate impact on racial and ethnic minorities.
But he said he was encouraged that in a sample of the 51,000 stops he examined from July to December 2016, cops “conducted an overwhelmingly large number of legitimate, lawful and justified stops.”
We again contend that the overwhelming number "of legitimate, lawful and justified stops" were just documented poorly, as everything this Department does. One thing that brightened the judge's day:
- Officers did fewer “protective pat downs” of people they believed might be carrying weapons, Keys said. And a bigger percentage of those pat downs yielded weapons than during the first six months of 2016, which he previously studied. White people were the smallest group subjected to those pat downs, but were the most likely to have weapons on them.
Keys said the racial breakdown of the 51,000 stops in late 2016 painted a “less rosy picture.” About 70 percent of those stopped were black, 19 percent were Hispanic and 1.5 percent were white, he said.
The judge, like all liberals, fails to take into account where the vast majority of crime takes place and the make-up of those neighborhoods. If 90% of your homicides take place in black and brown neighborhoods, then 90% of the stops will probably be black and brown. Attempting to "balance" your stops at one-third, one-third and one-third would be stupid, which is probably why liberals demand it.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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52% of the homicides in the United States are committed by male blacks. Male blacks are 6% of the population of the United States.
Stops of whites should read ~8%. Not sure where the 1.5% comes from, but looking at the report and doing simple math, stops of whites add up to ~8.8%. Which is confirmed later in the report. The 1.5% appears first and no one reads any further or questions why that number is so low.
Read the fucking crime headlines in all the shithole Chicago newspapers every day. People learn real quick who the fucking problem is with. And its not police.
Really??....Was the study done in Beverly Hills or something?? Lol
Once it is determined that the judge is a fucktard libtard no need to continue discussion. Whatever statements he makes are skewed toward his "unbiased decision".
I Got The Key To The Highway
Billed Out Arlander And Ready To Go
Gonna Leave Here Runnin'
'Cause Walkin's Most Too Slow
------hat tip to Little Walter, may he
Rest In Peace
The good people, victims, of Chicago need to put pressure on these liberal fools whose idiocy is making them less safe.
See being fetal is exactly what they want.
Proactive patdowns decline, less guns recovered, homicides increase.
Sounds like he may be another einstein in the making lol
Your last paragraph was soooooo spot on. Everyone of these clowns should be required to read it over and over, at least 10 times, Just to let it sink in a bit. Says it all right there...
Yeah but I knew this was coming with Mr. NewYork and his ding bat contact cards. Did you ever read the fucking things after they were turned in? Especially after he linked them to intelligibility for O.T. ?
Christ we had house mice who never made a pinch in their careers checking out cars to look for M/01's on Lunch. There were people writing them on victims after they did case reports for them. And the wording? "M/01 walking down street in a suspicious manner" doesn't quite cut it. Damn at least have the decency to say he was looking into cars.
But the DC's wanted them so the SGT's signed them to make the L.T.'s look good so's the D.C.'s could roll them out on Murder Friday just in case McDrunk came in after a few to many Lunch cocktails.
Love the latest. Police officers will be held liable for speed camera and red light camera tickets while driving a squad car.
And in socialist utopia Chicago, taxpayers on the North side pay for police protection of the non taxpaying South side!!
In my humble retired logic I would say good job officers and keep on Not stopping. Give them what they want. Stay Fetal and safe.
I live in an affluent, predominantly white area of Atlanta, a majority black city. A few years ago I attended a town hall meeting conducted by the community outreach officer of the county sheriff’s department. One of my neighbors was complaining about how her tax dollars are paying so much for police services, yet she rarely sees the police patrol in our area. She does see speed traps around here, but they apparently don’t just drive through the neighborhood as much as she would like. The officer chuckled and said, “Ma’am, our department has limited resources. In addition, your area of town has virtually no reported crime. Other areas of the county have very high crime rates. We must deploy our resources to the areas of town where they are most needed. We go where the crime is. If you see an increased police presence in your community, it may not be a good thing.”
Guess the leftists just don’t get that simple fact of life.
It’s never gonna be good enough with these liberal douche rockets.
I'm guessing the guys on the street are restricting their protective pat downs to occasions when they see one of these boy scouts accidentaly flash iron.
The Issue that seems to be ignored is this: Chicago remains segregated by Race and Economics, that is the Reality! Laws against segregation by Race exist and are enforced when violated. However, what is to be done when the Segregation is by Choice? Historically people have chosen to live with people of their shared culture. Hispanics living in Little Village choose to live with people of Mexican ancestry, sometimes even from their same areas of Mexico. This was the case with Italians when Taylor street really was Little Italy, and Polish folks lived on Milwaukee avenue, Bohemians on Cermak. Parts of the North side have anyone who can afford to pay the inflated prices, though efforts are being made to put Affordable Housing there as well. (Notice they never put Affordable Housing, the new term for Section 8 in Wilmette or Winnetka.) So the if you work in 015,{Austin} most of the people you stop will be Black! If you work in 010, most of your stops will be Hispanics. Solve the problem: stop nobody, unless required to or on-view. Play Safe! Baby "G"
In Chicago, in 2011, 70% of offenders were black, 25% Hispanic and 4% white.
In Chicago (holding an equal black/white population), if you are unlucky enough to be murdered, you are 17.5x more likely to be murdered by a black than you are a white
Nationwide, blacks are 6x more likely than whites to commit homicide.
Fallacious urban liberal-democrat SJW progressive collectivist
thinking is permanently slaved to their nasty-assed narrative
of all races MUST be equally represented in tendency toward
violent criminality.
If not... Then society as it stands IS THE PROBLEM and must be
overthrown by persuasion, coercion, subterfuge and failing all
of these, hijacking the political and legislative processes to
achieve urban liberal-democrat SJW progressive collectivist
(read as as Trotskyite/Alinskyite) goals of overthrow and replace
to achieve the "equality" espoused in their twisted narrative.
Politically and culturally weaponizing and empowering catered-to
constituencies, those least common denominators and demographic
subsets who for their avowed hatred of upright and law abiding
society, should rightfully be left behind as upright, decent
and law abiding society progresses.
'Tis the very natural order of things...
We recall an old REAL (Doctorate Religious Education)
West Side preacher-man with whom it was a joy to
converse with back in our young pup days of pulling
special attention at that particular church.
He was a decent man and quite fun to talk with.
(God Bless him)
His rap about responsibility and accountability
was STRONG and he, from what we observed, was
a purist in that he didn't mingle religion and
theology and he definitely didn't promote the
misdirected theology of perpetual victimhood
as a righteous cause.
He rapped a lot about the lessons embodied in
the story of Noah's Ark.
"Some people need a good leaving behind..."
Progressivism, is anything but...
The society hating charlatans who espouse it know this.
But that does not stop THEM from being a noisome
and obnoxious affliction upon the upright and
law abiding who just want to be left alone to
live and prosper according to their effort without
being dragged down and beaten up with all the
nonsense from the craven, seditious and traitorous
others who advocate misdirected "change" on their
terms only.
You're an enemy to them if you can think, discern
and soundly reason for yourself.
You're not a "useful" ally or willing/complicit stooge.
Hmmm... Perhaps that's why there's so much political
capital being expended to "reform" The Police.
The Police are an extension of the rest of everybody else.
However imperfectly.
However some may misfit the uniform.
And bearing that in mind.
Police "Reform" is nothing but attempting to
destroy a potential nucleus around which a
push back can possibly coalesce.
Interesting times indeed.
Protect yourselves.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
L3.
Wow, I guess I'll stop more white people, because they have more guns per this stupid ex-fed judge.
Hopefully, the ACLU never needs the police.
NOT ILLINOIS. NOT LAW.
Stay fetal. Leftists are mentally ill.
While they shoot each other, turn your heads, keep driving. Oh, don't forget to display the peace sign and a nice, howdy-do.
Who wants to frisk their lice-infested bodies anyway? Gross.
Question, he says male patted down far less even though they’re more likely to be armed. This is based on what exactly? If you’re talking CCL, maybe. However, if we’re talking about violent crimes,think about how many violent crimes you’ve responded to where male or Asian white shot someone, stuck a gun in someone’s face and jacked their car or robbed them. I’ve worked south and west my whole time. I can remember only one time. A white hillbilly robbed a dipe boy out south for his work and it caught up to him and the poor other hype with him later on Grenshaw and Karlov. They were both shot dead...by male blacks. Anyways, we all know what the reality is. Personally, I was sad to see 50,000 stops in such a small amount of time. I say give this SJW what he wants and leave the minorities to their own devices. If they want to make it a race issue, so be it, cops won’t. We should stand together as our own community, no fucks given about color, and leave the “community,” which is the civilian race-obsessed, can’t do for themselves population, alone.
White people are more likely to be carrying firearms. Well I hope to hell they are. Politicians and the ACLU are doing their best to de-fang the Police, what is the law abiding public supposed to do?
J.J.
So, is the "communerty" doing (behaving) better?
Yeah, the police is always the problem....
Arrena spelled backwards is DICKHEAD
They see only what they want to see. They will never change.
Whites were more likely to carry weapons. Let's see the report and data.
I’ve worked south and west my whole time. I can remember only one time. A white hillbilly robbed a dipe boy out south for his work and it caught up to him and the poor other hype with him later on Grenshaw and Karlov. They were both shot dead...by male blacks.
I think I recall the incident. Crazy white dude even wore a cowboy hat.Had the whole neighborhood looking for him. Grenshaw & Karlov is a different type of the Wild West!!
Why don't we just let George Soros run this department? Cut out the middle man.
SCC, take a look at this at about the 13 minute mark. Whoever this film maker is, he’s solid. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hdONWygFYZ8
But there are nonwhite people in my area to stop. So in order to keep the ratios the community demands I won't stop anyone for anything. Therefore no ISRs this car. If crime was only committed on a ratio basis. Seems like 2 groups have a strangle hold on crime commission the 3 grip not so much. Must be white guilt at play for their crop and they are letting the other two groups have all the fun.
I hear the retired federal judges get 250k a yr. to look at these stops. At 250 k a yr. I would never let the cpd off the hook, ok maybe 6 or 7 yrs down the road. Its amazing how much money is being legally stolen from taxpayers regarding all the bullshit lawsuitsand consent decrees and oversight commitees, etc... , etc... But not one dime for property tax relief, promised medical benefits for retirees. Whats wrong with you people, you got a mayor who brags about screwing old people out of their promised retirement health care. Take action against these criminal acts.
Love the latest. Police officers will be held liable for speed camera and red light camera tickets while driving a squad car.
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There is a simple answer for this. Don't speed or run red lights unless you are on an emergency call. There is no hurry to get where you are going anyway.
OK Judge Keys, I'll play your game. But that means 1/3rd of the CPD needs to deployed in my neck o' the woods. 33% for all of the 3 major demographics it is. If we want equal numbers, we get equal protection. Would LOVE to see many blue lights rolling the far corners of the city at 3AM, even though hopefully it might just be the Insane Racoons scurrying about. Stop and pat those little, ambidextrous mfers, they keep breaking into my garbage cans. I think they have formed an alliance with The Almighty Skunks. Either way, any mammal out and about in the predawn hours that isn't legitimately working probably isn't up to any good, and has good reason to be stopped you idiot.
.......spells dickhead. I like that one, cooter.
Love the latest. Police officers will be held liable for speed camera and red light camera tickets while driving a squad car.
I love this order. Slow rolling it.
Dont speed or run red lights anyway no matter what. WTF do you care unless the call is coming from another cops address? They want to play this shit fuck 'em. Myself I'd rather have patrol cars easing thru reds on slow midnights in my 'hood to cover more ground on patrol but YOU are the judge of what speed is safe especially if they want to start this shit. I never heard of an accident over a midnight car easing thru reds, THERES NOBODY FUCKING OUT!
But we now live in Snowflake Nation so slow it down period. Why risk a bad injury because of others?
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Love the latest. Police officers will be held liable for speed camera and red light camera tickets while driving a squad car.
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There is a simple answer for this. Don't speed or run red lights unless you are on an emergency call. There is no hurry to get where you are going anyway.
3/11/2018 07:53:00 PM""""
So a political hack judge is happy? Who give a shit? He was an anti-police moron on the bench, and still is.
I beg to differ. The vast majority of crime does not only happen in black neighborhoods. It happens all over the city, but the media and police shifts focus to areas where people of color are the majority. Also, there are larger police presence in black and Hispanic communities. Many young men (10-17) have complained of being stopped and harassed by officers for simply walking down the street. The stated that officers would stop and ask them where they are going, what are they doing, where they live, and tell them the reason is because they fit a description. Now please tell me how this don't scream RACIAL BIAS? Yet you have white people running whole drug operations unbothered in white neighborhoods because "there is not violence or threat"
Love the latest. Police officers will be held liable for speed camera and red light camera tickets while driving a squad car.
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There is a simple answer for this. Don't speed or run red lights unless you are on an emergency call. There is no hurry to get where you are going anyway.
3/11/2018 07:53:00
Pure BS. if you are a working officer you will see things that are not emergencies that running a red light would be helpful
Say you see a couple arguing down the block or what appears to be a drug deal. Non emergencies but by waiting for the light to change the girl could catch a punch to the face or the drug deal could go down and both guys are gone.
Police are going to be held responsible for speed and red light infractions? I suppose this will also extend to fire trucks and ambulances?
Remember this judge when the shit hits the fan at your house.
J.J.
(When a cop is used because he was too slow getting somewheres,will you be there to defend him/her?)
All these “big thinkers” need to do a ride along. I say, send them out on a warm summer night in the hood. Let them get a taste of reality.
Pure BS. if you are a working officer you will see things that are not emergencies that running a red light would be helpful
Say you see a couple arguing down the block or what appears to be a drug deal. Non emergencies but by waiting for the light to change the girl could catch a punch to the face or the drug deal could go down and both guys are gone.
3/12/2018 11:48:00 AM
Your definition of a "working officer" is quite revealing.
You want, oh so desperately, to be.......a HERO!!!!!!!
And which profession have you chosen for accomplishing your childhood wet dream?
Why, the one profession, in the one city, on the one department where......heroes are the stuff used to feed the beast.
Prevent a sucker punch to the face of.....who now?
Why, you don't fucking know who.....do you?
A, gasp, DRUG DEAL!!!!..could "go down" and, horror of horrors......the participants might.....God Save the Queen!!!!....GET AWAY!!!!!!!
My fucking GOD......the End must be near.........
........WTF........
1. I beg to differ. The vast majority of crime does not only happen in black neighborhoods. It happens all over the city, but the media and police shifts focus to areas where people of color are the majority.
2. Also, there are larger police presence in black and Hispanic communities. Many young men (10-17) have complained of being stopped and harassed by officers for simply walking down the street. The stated that officers would stop and ask them where they are going, what are they doing, where they live, and tell them the reason is because they fit a description.
3. Now please tell me how this don't scream RACIAL BIAS? Yet you have white people running whole drug operations unbothered in white neighborhoods because "there is not violence or threat"
3/12/2018 11:30:00 AM
Gee, let's keep this brief:
1. Tell your source for these falsehoods to stop lying. Even if that source is you. Quantity of criminal acts is far greater where you say it's not AND is increasing in the areas you say it is BECAUSE the inhabitants from where you say it's not are mobile, and bring their community habits with them wherever they wander.
2. That greater quantity of police presence you lament is not allowed to be effective in reducing the greater quantity of criminal acts committed in and by the inhabitants of the communities you specify + your objecting to what the "many young men who complain" object to is precisely why. Yes, "fitting the description of" will result in those who are committing a great quantity of criminal acts to object to being questioned by those attempting to reduce that quantity.....in the fucking community you refer to.
3. The only bias which exists, not counting the bias dwelling within your mind, is the bias opposing the continued and increasing quantity of violent, criminal acts being committed by those who "fit the description of". As for your ending question/point.....you said it best.... "because 'there is not violence or threat'....".
Do you want more violence occurring within your community?
Why don't we just let George Soros run this department? Cut out the middle man.
3/11/2018 04:07:00 PM
One of his anal polyp minions is currently the mayor......
.....grumpy george delegates......
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All these “big thinkers” need to do a ride along. I say, send them out on a warm summer night in the hood. Let them get a taste of reality.
3/12/2018 03:30:00 PM
that is the best answer 1 night they would change their minds! they are used to watching animals in captivity watching them roam causing mayhem and death changes the mindset quickly!
How come these "experts", commonly known as ideologues, do not look at reported crime race codes and make the correlation to arrests/stops?
And where is this report? They only have the old one posted. Accountability? Transparency?
I think I recall the incident. Crazy white dude even wore a cowboy hat.Had the whole neighborhood looking for him. Grenshaw & Karlov is a different type of the Wild West!!
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That it is my friend, that it is. I think I remember hearing something about that part too - funny as hell. Some shit I would pay to see is the local yokels line dancing contest.
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