Stop Already
Shootings are down, right?
Killings are down, right?
In fact, according to Special Ed, crime is pretty much non-existent - except for those pesky carjackings, endless property crimes, assaults and batteries downtown....but those don't really count.
So why is this still happening?
Killings are down, right?
In fact, according to Special Ed, crime is pretty much non-existent - except for those pesky carjackings, endless property crimes, assaults and batteries downtown....but those don't really count.
So why is this still happening?
- Area North Dep Chief went into a rage at the commanders demanding more activity and ordering them not to grant more then 15% time due on any day. If you are denied , demand the rejected slip back from the WOL and use for grievance and litigation.
Can't everyone just be happy for the moment that it's been cold enough to keep killings at a reasonable pace? It's going to be 70 degrees later this week.
Labels: department issues, stats
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
69 Comments:
At the end of the BLM... I am so glad since the movement started-- the crime trend and incarceration rate has collapse.
Meh-- you would be a douche to take me seriously
And when they hand you back your slip with nothing written on it, then what? Ask them to write a rejection on your slip? Good luck.
Refresh my memory...who is A-N deputy chief?
As we approach achieving critical peak fetality, emergency room staff everywhere experience both dread and the heightening excitement of anticipated bloody activities.
After all, experience is the best means of learning.
And practicing trauma techniques on cadavers just doesn't cut the mustard.
What is there to grieve? 15% is what you agreed to
Whatever.
I have 2 years left and I will have the rest of my life off. Fuck this God forsaken shit hole.
Good luck, boss.
Fro chief is a goof. That isn't going to get anyone doing anything but bitching they had their time denied. I'm not going to give the gold stars any clues. My job is to just follow orders;)
Let's see, what is 15% of 40 or 50 damn officers? 6 or 7. Take furlos away, IOD and you're down to no one can have off. I'm so motivated by all the praise I get from the catered to constituencies, the media and these damn back stabbing gold star idjits, that I just can't wait to get out there and....Get 20 so I can leave. KMA.
I can't wait for the people that pay taxes to begin asking questions of their elected representatives and these white shirted imbeciles that run the department as to just why they can't get any police coverage for their 5, 10 or 15k per year in property taxes and tell them that if they don't start sending some help, they can go get new jobs after the election.
Start denying time off unreasonably and not only will you get a ton of grievances filed but zero activity.
Instead of making the job a more positive supportive environment this job is becoming a dismal place to work.
And that 70 degrees on the barometer is what will baffle all of Rahm's minions who claim that crime is down. As you said SCC, let it burn.
Oh, and fuck you Rahm, and all of the rest of your tax-payer financed trolls who say otherwise. The man is a failure of a Mayor. Period.
The time clock ought to have a thermometer.....
Let me see if I got this right. The FOP wanted comp time by seniority instead of the Watch Commander’s discretion. The city said fine, give us a 15% cap in exchange. Union signs off on it and it ends up in the contract. So who exactly are you grieving and litigating against if you are denied for being over the 15%? The FOP?
Im sure all of our young , bright activists will be out protesting No More Guns !! No more violence!!
With Investagory Stop Reports, vehicle pursuit policies, prejudiced COPA "investigators"/supervisors, unrealistic use of force policies, body worn cameras, etc. are all valid reasons to not to be proactive. Sorry, many officers can make that difference curbing violent crime but obstacles include discipline, termination and civil rights lawsuits weigh heavy on a proactive officer's mind. Avoidance-avoidance is a sucesssful strategy keeping officers out of trouble much like abstinence which works evertime it is tried.
Hey, it’s was your union that agreed to the 15%, don’t blame management. You don’t like it - take it up with FOP.
Well known to be bi-polar.
Idiot bureaucrats always double down on their stupidity when they feel things are out of control, proving they are both those things.
15%? they've been using that standard already. so what?!!
Good job area north districts. keep up the fetality!
I don't care, if I can't get off for an important family affair, I hit the medial, sickness in family or whatever it takes.
They are demanding activity again in 017 !! ISR, traffic stop cards. We are being denied time due until the number's (quota's) are sufficient. People are actually questioned one on one by the W/C about activity. No one is allowed to call in on the day of and request off, we have to hit the medical. Medical checks are now mandatory for every medical incident. It seems the white shirts are running scared trying to put the fear of God into the P.O's.
I just love it when the mews media says some thing like, " 3 killed and 14 wounded last night," and then follow it up with the Rahmmies, But all crime is down in the city......C'mon warm weather, let the streets run with BLOOD.....DILLY, DILLY......
Wait! Nagode yelled at someone? That isn’t news, that is literally a daily occurrence. Anyone that knows him knows that he has absolutely zero emotional regulation. He is a miserable man. It is the only trick up his sleeve. Leadership through fear. Except that nobody takes him seriously. They just recognize the mood and steer clear. Keep promoting the incompetent. I’m surprised he hasn’t been disciplined for this yet.
Here’s all you need to know about him. He (or anybody) is not in control when they are screaming. When I worked with him, I would purposely tell him things to piss him off just to get him riled up. It just takes a small seed and then his brain will ruminate until he sets of screaming. Interestingly, he felt in control when he was screaming, but isn’t it the person who makes him scream that is really in control? Not surprising that he has marital problems and his kids hate him.
All these exempts hear Rahm's little footsteps behind them. They want to keep the cushy jobs and exempt pensions.
Bank robbery and kidnapping in Mount Greenwood and it looks like the same offender and detectives don't come out to talk to anyone. This Department is a joke. Message to the public, the mayor does not give a crap about investigating crimes. If you don't know someone, its just a piece of paper.
Staples is a goof. Dumped 2 long time MAIU Sgts because she thought they were not doing their job. But she doesn’t even know what their job is.
He's in for a real surprise about activity when swiping in and out goes cw....hahahaha....
Some of these early comments show just how uninformed the masses really are with regard to the MOU agreeing to cap of 15% elective time. First, it's not something that "the city" implemented NOR is it "in the contract" it's a MOU, a Memo of Understanding, between the city and the FOP. Second, it only has to do with Elective Time off. It's 15% of the AVAILABLE manpower for that day. So take everyone that should be working, exclude IOD, Medical, RDO, Furlo, Contractual Furlo Extensions, and anything contractually guaranteed by contract (bereavement leave etc). The number you have LEFT is what you multiply by .15 to see how many you can give off.
If 15% isn't enough, talk to your union before they make it part of the next contact. Ask for 20% or 25%. Hell, ask for 50% but don't complain that there are down cars and 99 units and nobody is backing you up when you're fighting with some nutcase
I was at that meeting too and I can tell you Nagode was being VERY specific as to who he was directing his rage toward. He was telling the Cmdr from 017 that she had 19 occasions where a watch was over the 15% agreed upon by the FOP. The majority were 3w and Tact. The same 3w that embarrassed her at Compstat by coming in with zero activity. His point was if they don't want to do anything, fine but don't bend the rules THEY agreed to and give them time off when you don't have to. I think his comments toward her were right on point. I'm NOT from 017 and I sometimes have to deny officers based on 15%. Her excuse was "when they send up the projections for the week they are always under 15%. Well DUH Commander from left field, do you think they would broadcast ahead of time that they are going to break the rules? They are holding slips until the day of. That is a direct slap to you from your 3w WOL
Good ole Nagode
Do they mean shooting report numbers or actual people shot?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What is there to grieve? 15% is what you agreed to
Nothing to grieve if it done with uniformity problem is it changed when the chosen request off. Also keeping track of the seniority gets clouded when the want off
"Area North Dep Chief went into a rage", isn't that what he always does? The pussy worked in neighborhood relations as a PO and Sgt. NEVER worked the streets. And all he does is yell at everybody. He will go down as the biggest pussy in the history of the department with all his stand down orders at events.
You determine the number of people shot as a barometer of violence not the dead. Gonna be 70 this weekend, stay safe, stay fetal.
So quit letting yourselves be pimped out by some Area Deputy Chief for his numbers. Man up and come back to work the watch.
What's that? No takers?
Then quit whining. You volunteered for your Area North gig, you burned a favor or used your clout or ran around like a chicken with its head cut off getting the bosses ("he's a prince, I tell ya") their numbers to get there.
Some people are too special to answer radio jobs while being hounded by a new Sgt ("I'm off the list") for being on a job or a gas run too long, I guess.
What is there to grieve? 15% is what you agreed to
Wrong, 15% is the minimum amount that can be off, not the maximum. The FLOP has been letting the command staff get away with this. The FLOP should examine time and show that it never goes over that except in unusual circumstances. You can't grieve it but, it can be used as part of the current negotiation process
Let me see if I got this right. The FOP wanted comp time by seniority instead of the Watch Commander’s discretion. The city said fine, give us a 15% cap in exchange. Union signs off on it and it ends up in the contract. So who exactly are you grieving and litigating against if you are denied for being over the 15%? The FOP?
4/09/2018 02:07:00 AM
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The issue is that Dean Sr. PhD got the wording as "up to 15%"
So 14,13,12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,and 1% may also be awarded if the supervisor wishes to document why. ie: special parade, intel assessment, multiple block parties, and on and on.
Perhaps the shot spotter program is helping curb gun violence in Chicago?
(OT) ALERT School shootings problem is solved the elected have the solution:
North suburban schools consider panic buttons after grant program approved
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/deerfield/news/ct-dfr-panic-button-legislation-tl-0412-story.html
Ready for the secret that we pay these bozos millions in salaries for:
Schneider said they can go in all classrooms, giving teachers the ability to alert responders the moment an emergency occurs. He sees it as a lifesaving measure.
The legislation will provide schools nationwide $75 million for the purchase and installation of panic buttons this year and $100 million a year through 2028, according to Schneider.
For Township High School District 113 and Northbrook/Glenview School District 30, the timing of the legislation is fortunate, according to school officials.
District 30 Superintendent Brian Wegley said panic buttons are already incorporated into the plans for the new Maple School where construction recently began. He said he will be looking at the new program as a possible way to fund the security system.
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This is 3 stooges head hitting nonsense! 100 million a year for putting in wireless panic buttons? Guess the cell phone does not work anymore right? No money for school police officers, just hit the buzzer Maybe staples can get that lucrative contract and supply the "easy" red buttons on teachers desks:
https://www.google.com/search?q=easy+button&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiL26m76K3aAhVQM6wKHW2cDMsQsAQIJA&biw=1440&bih=766#imgrc=dFgjgpMauBd91M:
Who is giving out this contract? who gets paid off?
Originally introduced by Rep. Brad Schneider (D-Deerfield) and Rep. Mike Bost (R-Murphysboro) in January as separate legislation, the funding was incorporated as a provision into the $1.3 trillion federal spending measure signed by President Donald Trump March 23.
Panic buttons, which Schneider said are installed in both his Washington and Lincolnshire offices, immediately notify first responders when an emergency occurs.
**Ahh yes Schneider has them in his offices but for what? Does he really think that coppers will respond to his office faster? He needs panic buttons why? Has he done something to make people wnat to attack him? What another coward comes forward that's easy, another misuse of federal dollars!
Look at this POS article in the Chicago Magazine and tribune
https://www.facebook.com/ChicagoMagazine/posts/10156221906182145
These very same spinners will look you in the eye, smile and tell you the sky is black.
Would you believe them??
There’s always the medical.
They can’t deny that.
The message is loud and clear.....
No. Not the message calling for more activity. The message that says being proactive is for fools. More activity and exposure means more risk and liability to your job, freedom and safety.
Area North Deputy Chief is having ANOTHER hissy fit? This guy’s worse than a sophomore at McAuley, with the bitching and whining.
Al, enough already. The rants and condescending attitude toward these districts does not make you a great leader; it makes you look petty and insignificant.
Speaking of petty, is there any particular reason that the Area North Deputy Chief would be going after 017 like a rabid dog? It couldn’t possibly have anything to do with the fact that 017 has the least amount of manpower of any district in the city; nor could it possibly be that 017 3rd watch had no ISRs; nor could it be at all possible that Al is going after the only female commander in Area North. Yep, she’s been there two whole months - she should have all the years of no management turned around by now, right Al.
Could the real reason be that the Area North Deputy Chief is going after 017 because his guy didn’t get made commander???
Yes, AN, keep stomping your feet and bitching like a little girl, because you didn’t get your way; instead of acting like a leader.
(OT) Whats this?
Ald. Zalewski to resign from Council May 31; paves way for Hispanic replacement
https://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/ald-zalewski-to-resign-from-council-may-31-paves-way-for-hispanic-replacement/
That is pretty quick, wonder what happened what machinations developed? The census is coming up and the over/under on redrawing ward boundaries are? Well with archer with so many vacant businesses and no services on the west end it is not a wonder he is leaving! Or is the DOJ dipping into some areas and he was smart enough to get the first seat? He is head of aviation committee full of contracts and clout strange so quickly and giving rahm the seat to appoint a chuy friend! Maybe just maybe rahm will be defeated with the pandering to chuy hopefully chuy turns on him and puts a powerful hispanic in for mayor! "the rahm chronicles" continue! you cant be first mayor but you can be next!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What is there to grieve? 15% is what you agreed to
Wrong, 15% is the minimum amount that can be off, not the maximum. The FLOP has been letting the command staff get away with this. The FLOP should examine time and show that it never goes over that except in unusual circumstances. You can't grieve it but, it can be used as part of the current negotiation process
4/09/2018 11:36:00 AM
This is a perfect example of an uninformed keyboard cowboy. The watch has a minimum % that they have to let off? So if everyone wants to work some are being told that they MUST take Elective time?
Wrong, 15% is the minimum amount that can be off, not the maximum. The FLOP has been letting the command staff get away with this. The FLOP should examine time and show that it never goes over that except in unusual circumstances. You can't grieve it but, it can be used as part of the current negotiation process
4/09/2018 11:36:00 AM
Uh, not quite.
The minimum that must be granted is not the same as the minimum that "can be", which is 0%.
Any percentage greater than the minimum "must be", aka, "must not be denied", is up to mismanagement.
Management will always default to only providing what must be provided, since management, by definition, is not the friend of those being managed.
Now, were it possible to prove that the minimum 15% was not being met.........
(OT) this was a terrible tragedy but yet the news media wants to keep the pressure on what do they need to know it was a car accident without a doubt are they trying to place blame on the police officers that were behind a vehicle are they trying to blame the policeman driving the vehicle who are they trying to blame? Two people have lost their lives one of them are brother and blue the other one and innocent civilian maybe both rest in peace amen !
https://www.nbcchicago.com/on-air/as-seen-on/6P-questions-remain-over-crash-involving-chicago-cop-479207303.html
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They are demanding activity again in 017 !! ISR, traffic stop cards. We are being denied time due until the number's (quota's) are sufficient. People are actually questioned one on one by the W/C about activity. No one is allowed to call in on the day of and request off, we have to hit the medical. Medical checks are now mandatory for every medical incident. It seems the white shirts are running scared trying to put the fear of God into the P.O's.
4/09/2018 06:20:00 AM
It’s sad that 017 has become such an aweful place to work. Zero manpower and very miserable management. Maybe if there was manpower guys would have more freedom to find activity but it’s not easy to do with all the jobs. Denying time will not help and make matters worse. Be safe out there.
Anonymous said...
Refresh my memory...who is A-N deputy chief?
4/09/2018 12:15:00 AM
Exactly!
Nothing could be better than having a Merit Hack go Cat-5 over lack of civil rights infringing activity.
The notice came from Rahm’s COPA that they’re mulling about all day with nothing to do.
STAY FETAL.
WE ARE WINNING.
Q: Does the paperless Admin-Management and the over achiever Harder Charger folk get 20-30% additional time due off ?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They are demanding activity again in 017 !! ISR, traffic stop cards. We are being denied time due until the number's (quota's) are sufficient. People are actually questioned one on one by the W/C about activity. No one is allowed to call in on the day of and request off, we have to hit the medical. Medical checks are now mandatory for every medical incident. It seems the white shirts are running scared trying to put the fear of God into the P.O's.
4/09/2018 06:20:00 AM
It’s sad that 017 has become such an aweful place to work. Zero manpower and very miserable management. Maybe if there was manpower guys would have more freedom to find activity but it’s not easy to do with all the jobs. Denying time will not help and make matters worse. Be safe out there.
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You can't win them all. At least you guys don't drive 20 miles to work in the ghetto.
When you need to yell you lost control. Shouldn’t be a boss. Been in management in private sector and in comparison these bosses are a joke. No skills or real training if this is how they act
So what are his numbers? I can tell you. 50% of his people take off constantly and only come in for OT. They work so much OT they can't work a full regular work week ir day. Someone needs to check HIS numbers. 10 hour days? Come in an hour or two late and leave early? MAYBE a 6 hour day tops including a one hour lunch/dinner. His teams are NEVER at 15% , no time ever denied. Of course then there is the 3 out of 5 day work week and 5 hour days or lessfor his office staff. LEAD BY EXAMPLE. No one respects you OR fears you. You think your screaming is powerful? It's loss of control by you. That's weakness.
Well known bi-polar. His mother was friends with former DC Boggs of 024. That’s where his meteoric rise began.
Hello medical...
They are demanding activity again in 017 !! ISR, traffic stop cards. We are being denied time due until the number's (quota's) are sufficient. People are actually questioned one on one by the W/C about activity. No one is allowed to call in on the day of and request off, we have to hit the medical. Medical checks are now mandatory for every medical incident. It seems the white shirts are running scared trying to put the fear of God into the P.O's.
Well what are the coppers doing during their tour? If you look at 017 at any given time half the district is up and available for an hour plus. So what are you guys doing when not responding to jobs and generating paper? Inquiring minds want to know?
Signed : A blue shirt working south
This blog needs to publish a who's who of command personnel so that everyone, the good citizens and retirees know who exactly are being discussed in the blog. That would make it more fun for everyone.
This asshole should check out some books and write his own fucking activity if he wants it so bad.
Back in the 70's in the 13th district we had Capt. John Hadle who was connected to the Cullerton family. He was the biggest Asshole that ever was. I produced movers, parkers,arrests etc and this prick refused me time due the night before my cousins wedding even though the slip was in 2 periods before. I managed to get 3 hours time due because the desk sergeant ran the watch, I called in prior to showing up and he carried me on the desk for the remainder. Different times now but we still have bosses who are clowns but it seems like the coppers who do nothing cause the workers issues. I say document everything dogasses do, dont punish everybody.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So what are his numbers? I can tell you. 50% of his people take off constantly and only come in for OT. They work so much OT they can't work a full regular work week ir day. Someone needs to check HIS numbers. 10 hour days? Come in an hour or two late and leave early? MAYBE a 6 hour day tops including a one hour lunch/dinner. His teams are NEVER at 15% , no time ever denied. Of course then there is the 3 out of 5 day work week and 5 hour days or lessfor his office staff. LEAD BY EXAMPLE. No one respects you OR fears you. You think your screaming is powerful? It's loss of control by you. That's weakness.
4/10/2018 04:43:00 AM
Everyone will be scanning in and out, watch and see the "early ducks" are over we make a great salary 8 for 8 and some coppers say "I will call the union" "I will get late arrest" sure you will "Francis" Then you will punch in and out stop being such crybabies like school girls! The city is 100% within its rights to expect you be there for hours paid, end of story!
Dear SCC,
I know that you have made it your priority to bring to light topics that the mainstream media would never publish. Which is why I could not help but notice while working special employment in the 018th District that there are Officers assigned to the Cardinals house. Beat 1888 3rd Watch of the 018th District starts at 1300 hours and is relieved by a 1st watch officer at 2130 hours and works the midnights shift.
There are several issues that I have with this detail. First of all, why are Chicago Police Officers being utilized to provide what I feel is a job that should be provided by private security? This detail is to provide safety and security to the Cardinal Blase Cupich residence at 15XX N. State Parkway. However what is interesting is that the Cardinal does not reside there. He lives at Holy name Cathedral a different location then where the Cardinals detail shows up daily. https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-archbishop-cupich-residence-met-20141022-story,amp.html
So then my question is then why are there two Officers assigned to the Cardinals residence when in fact he does not reside there? What is also interesting is the Cardinals detail has been around since Richard J. Daley became Mayor in 1955. I am all for Officers getting good assignments but where is the separation of Church and State? If we are providing private security for the Archdiocese of Chicago why are we not providing Chicago Police Officers to other religious denominations and sects?
I was told that when you are on the Cardinals detail you show up with a radio and sit around watching television in the basement of the Cardinals Mansion. The Nuns cook for you but keep a close eye on you. If the Nuns go grocery shopping you help them bring groceries in the Cardinals house. To me with the current manpower shortage this has to be the biggest waste of two Chicago Police Officers on the Department. What is also interesting is a former 018th District Lieutenant now a Captain/XO told the current 3rd Watch officer assigned to the Cardinals residence that he would be back on the street three years ago. Well some phone calls were made and guess what happened? That is correct absolutely nothing.
So what does that tell you about this 63 year old Chicago Police Department detail? It is not going anywhere anytime soon. Do the math and you will see the millions of dollars this detail has cost taxpayers. When the department cries about not having money for overtime, not having enough Officers to keep the downtown area safe. Or when you hear about residents in the 018th District who pay the highest property taxes in the city that get little police service because of manpower shortages. Or perhaps the tourists that come in from all over the world to see our city and are helping pay our police salaries who are being unnecessarily victimized. Think about the 018th District Cardinals detail!
This blog needs to publish a who's who of command personnel so that everyone, the good citizens and retirees know who exactly are being discussed in the blog. That would make it more fun for everyone.
4/10/2018 09:18:00 A
Take a look here
https://home.chicagopolice.org/inside-the-cpd/department-bureaus/
Start a list of captains and exempt rank that never has aMerit promotion .
That will be a short list .
Anonymous said...
Back in the 70's in the 13th district we had Capt. John Hadle who was connected to the Cullerton family. He was the biggest Asshole that ever was. I produced movers, parkers,arrests etc and this prick refused me time due the night before my cousins wedding even though the slip was in 2 periods before. I managed to get 3 hours time due because the desk sergeant ran the watch, I called in prior to showing up and he carried me on the desk for the remainder. Different times now but we still have bosses who are clowns but it seems like the coppers who do nothing cause the workers issues. I say document everything dogasses do, dont punish everybody.
4/10/2018 10:39:00 AM
If he did this today, tomorrow 5 coppers would pull the same thing and then beef if the desk sgt didn't carry them.
The amount of bitching about clocking in is hilarious. So your bitching about the fact you have to actually work a full day? No wonder people hate us you basically are complaining about having to do a full days work. Sorry but blame all those units who claim hours of OT and only come in for 4 hours.
Ive been on midnights for awhile and always see the same people leaving around 2 or 3am. Thats stealing folks sorry but you shouldnt be getting a full salary for working 5 hours.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Start a list of captains and exempt rank that never has aMerit promotion .
That will be a short list .
4/10/2018 05:17:00 PM
Well genius since both Captain and Exempt rank are meritorious promotions (i.e. Not a civil service rank based on test score) the list would include EVERY Captain SES and EVERY Exempt in the Dept.
Bring back CPT. INSP. LUMPEE. K.A. He’s real leader,BACK to 017ya RIGHT, April foolery JOKE what a GOOF.
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