U of C Shooting
- A University of Chicago police officer shot and seriously wounded a 21-year-old student who charged an officer with a metal pipe near the South Side campus late Tuesday, authorities said.
The shooting happened off campus just before 10:15 p.m. in the Hyde Park neighborhood, an area patrolled by both U. of C. and Chicago police officers.
Three U. of C. police officers responding to a call of a burglary in the 5300 block of South Kimbark Avenue encountered a man — later identified as a student — breaking car and apartment windows with a long metal pipe, university officials said in an email to students.
The officers ordered the student to drop the pipe, but he refused and charged at the officer in an alley, university President Robert Zimmer and Provost Daniel Diermeier said in the email.
One of the officers fired his weapon, hitting the student in the shoulder, according to the university. The student was initially taken to Northwestern Memorial Hospital in serious condition, authorities said.
Officer is fine physically. Can't wait to see how the overly libtarded Hyde Park populace handles this one .... non-CPD protecting them shoots a student assailant.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
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After Fathead Ed strip the U of C officer, COPA is going to rule the shooting unjustified.
Will the student be expelled???
The video was on Slum Times website. Good shoot. Too bad this asshole lived.
They found 2 snowflakes that thought the Police were very wrong. Stupid overly educated entitled white chicks passing judgement
U of C Police are aggressive and always beat 002 District Cops to jobs within their area. Hopefully, this will be ruled a good shoot and U of C Police will continue doing a fine job.
I would like to know if CPD was on scene when shots were fired? Do U of C Police have body cameras? Again, hopefully this will be a good shoot.
Having worked here for years, I can tell you exactly how this will play out:
"From the desk of President Zimmer: We are going to form an impartial panel to hear all aspects of this case to determine what we could have done to have prevented this occurrence."
If former UCPD Chief Marlon Lynch were here, he would likely offer the officer involved in the shooting 'another job working for the university in another capacity.' We've seen this sort of thing play out all the time here. Back door'd by the civilian deans, with little to no support from our own executives within our agency. We're just waiting to see what Chief Rainey will say (or do) about the fallout that is sure to come.
I always thought Metal Poles were a European rock band out of Warsaw.
Well you see SCC... pipe's ain't bats. And a bat isn't a club. You can shoot for pipes and clubs, but not bats. By the way, you have 0.10 of a second to determine what it is before...
I had to laugh at the “student’s parents were notified” line in the press release. It sounds as if the school/police department contacted them. Sorry, but this offender is 21 years old. Last time I checked, 21 is an adult. I will play the race card here...I seriously doubt any family member would have been notified if the offender was some thug from Englewood.
https://youtu.be/X07QJy_a4Hc
Here’s the video from the BWC the press won’t show (they only show squad car footage). Anyways, this works all fine and dandy (the “tactical retreat” they’re boasting about), but what about when you run backwards into a lane of traffic, getting seriously injured or killed, or trip and fall. You know, one’s natural reaction is to brace themselves with their hand(s). What happens when you have a gun in said hand? Oh, that’s right, you have an accidental discharge and/or lose control of a handgun and, in consequence, give the assailant a nearly defenseless target and possibly upgrading his armament to your nice handgun. Then the snowflakes will laugh at your death saying, “undertrained cops can’t even keep control of their own gun.”
Glad the copper is alright, but this job is just a shitshow. Too bad shithead didn’t die of lead poisoning. Two good citizens interviewed said the officer didn’t need to and shouldn’t have shot. Stay fetal until the snowflakes reap the rewards of their ignorance.
I think the student was acting because neither Michelle nor Barack is coming back there to work/teach/live. They are so loved there.
Noe, kees me you fool!!!!
They wanted this and they got it.
Next time, it won't be so pretty.....
With libtard thinking at the forefront, The University will probably opt for unarmed security and do away with the police department. Any bets?
And just WHO is this Student/Offender. Watch the Local community ( Libbys ) to ban metal pipes, NOT the CRAZIES swinging them.....
You can clearly see all the chances the coppers gave to this piece of shit who clearly wanted to Maine or kill the copper just say what if a Nother student encounter this asshole wearing a helmet and gloves he would’ve killed them looks like from watching the video this punk watch too many video games with trying to dress like one of the characters and act out probably a liberal being taught by liberals that he can do whatever he wants willing to bet his mother and father told never told him no and were scared of him typical in today’s day and age God bless this police officer hope everything works out OK the good thing here is he cannot be investigated by our culpa organization which real bastardize him in every way possible just like our fake media will be working on anything to hurt the police officer anything to promote chaos and anarchy that’s what the media does their anti-police it is sickening pathetic protect each other the thin blue line gets thinner all the time!
Hey, at least the new CPD general order covers this. It’s called run away from threats Shoot only when fired upon.
First, glad that the 'officer is fine physically.'
Also SCC has, as usual, another interesting point. "Can't wait to see how the overly libtarded Hyde Park populace handles this one .... non-CPD protecting them shoots a student assailant."
Is there any correlation between a mentally challenged individual wielding a bat vs. a pipe threatening law enforcement, summoned to the scene, in these two incidents?
Interesting, but I'm sure they won't be judged by the same litmus test.
Wow cant believe that there are actually positive witnesses to this shooting which back up the police. I reme bet years back when I was a Sergeant in SOS and we were assigned to hyde park because of a rash of armed robbie. Every time we stopped a suspect the liberals had a comment. Glad the Cops are OK.
He is identified and charged:
Police identify, charge student shot by University of Chicago officer
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/police-identify-charge-student-shot-by-university-of-chicago-officer/
he was charged with felony how quick before Kimmy lets him go?
NYPD Police shoots and killed man after multiple calls describing man with object believed to be a gun. The man, once encountered by officers took a shooter's stance.
www.cnn.com/2018/04/05/us/nypd-police-shoot-man-metal-pipe/index.html
look at this idiot, how many video games did he watch and the copper says he is a mental, with a helmet and gloves what character is he trying to portray! A mental what was his GPA and act score to get into that kollege? Was he a quota merit appointee? free ride? So mom and dad send their son now a man to this school knowing he is a mental case is he off his meds? There lies the problem, we are dealing with so many mental now,friends are pharmacists and others are school counselors as soon as they are having any issues with kids parents are called (many in grade schools) and the parents take kids to doctors who prescribe Ritalin and other substances to "clam them down!" Pharmacist friend says they are filling untold amounts of RX for kids,more than ever before and on the other end of the "spectrum" as they call it many women are being put on zoloft and prozac along with some men!
So what meds was this wacko on! many of us older coppers and others that read this very blog know that many years ago when your parent was called to a school, they gave you therapy and sometimes took you to a doctor for injuries you received after they kicked your ass at home,then your cured of this future dilemma,parents back in that day not long ago would be "doctors" today knowing what we needed to be cured! Thew kids today say "we are bored" remember if your ever told your parents that years ago? So quickly you would have a mop in your hand, told to clean,wash the car,cut the grass if you talked back then gave you a broom "up your ass" parenting is a foreign concept to many of the snowflake generation!
Good friend is manager of home depot told me Sunday is like amusement park day there, parents bring their kids "shopping" and the kids run all over the store some getting hurt, look for example at the power tool area where everything is strapped down,saws covered because parents let their kids play with them like toys and when kid gets hurt they yes "we are going to sue!" Lastly we were taught to respect law enforcement,parents,teachers and help elders and respect females now today parenting is gone, so many kids feel it is "me first" and the parents melt when their child yells at them,and what is this shit with calling your parent by their first name snowflakes,parents are not to be the child's playmate friends we are there to be mentors and the way many parent your raising a generation of future idiots with absolutely no conceptual reality!
rant/off thank you SCC!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
U of C Police are aggressive and always beat 002 District Cops to jobs within their area. Hopefully, this will be ruled a good shoot and U of C Police will continue doing a fine job.
I would like to know if CPD was on scene when shots were fired? Do U of C Police have body cameras? Again, hopefully this will be a good shoot.
Please only call U of C when police are needed. The department, especially 002nd District officers will appreciate it. I would also hope they should respond faster to their own campus, especially since CPD has to handle pretty much all of their nonsense on their very campus and grounds, despite the fact they are sworn officers.
By the way, don't concern yourself as to who was present and if there is additional camera footage, snowflake troll.
Anonymous said...
https://youtu.be/X07QJy_a4Hc
Here’s the video from the BWC the press won’t show (they only show squad car footage). Anyways, this works all fine and dandy (the “tactical retreat” they’re boasting about), but what about when you run backwards into a lane of traffic, getting seriously injured or killed, or trip and fall. You know, one’s natural reaction is to brace themselves with their hand(s). What happens when you have a gun in said hand? Oh, that’s right, you have an accidental discharge and/or lose control of a handgun and, in consequence, give the assailant a nearly defenseless target and possibly upgrading his armament to your nice handgun. Then the snowflakes will laugh at your death saying, “undertrained cops can’t even keep control of their own gun.”
Glad the copper is alright, but this job is just a shitshow. Too bad shithead didn’t die of lead poisoning. Two good citizens interviewed said the officer didn’t need to and shouldn’t have shot. Stay fetal until the snowflakes reap the rewards of their ignorance.
4/05/2018 04:00:00 AM
Your right about that backing up nonsense,we are trained to go into the fight, wait a gosh darn minute in that parkland school shooting was that copper practicing "tactical retreat?" So this example means we need to retreat from a dangerous weapon right? So using that nonsense if we see someone with a knife and we back up and he kills someone in front of us but we retreated we will be OK right? I know this is insane!
On another related note the year was 1996 Archer Ave I tried that tactical retreat in a parking lot with a mental and truthfully I fell backward hitting my head on cement got a concussion still crazy today but be careful backing up you may be the victim! Better way is don't get out of your vehicle, drive by and wave at crazy man in hockey mask if asked why you did nothing you thought he watched hockey game with mask,or was practicing cross country skiing with the pole! Let the liberals and snowflakes sort it out!
the funny thing is the university put out a notice to all students about the "violent crime" everywhere around the campus! what kind of people do this? Nope cant ask googleme he is tongue tied and sworn not to release offenders descriptions isn't that right sir?
1. COPA has no jurisdiction to investigate the UofC Police officer; UCPD is not part of CPD, and has legal authority by State law to operate its own police force.
2. Bat? Pipe? Both are useable as deadly weapons. Charge me with a weapon, ya gonna' get shot.
3. F**k the snowflakes!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
https://youtu.be/X07QJy_a4Hc
Here’s the video from the BWC the press won’t show (they only show squad car footage). Anyways, this works all fine and dandy (the “tactical retreat” they’re boasting about), but what about when you run backwards into a lane of traffic, getting seriously injured or killed, or trip and fall. You know, one’s natural reaction is to brace themselves with their hand(s). What happens when you have a gun in said hand? Oh, that’s right, you have an accidental discharge and/or lose control of a handgun and, in consequence, give the assailant a nearly defenseless target and possibly upgrading his armament to your nice handgun. Then the snowflakes will laugh at your death saying, “undertrained cops can’t even keep control of their own gun.”
100% true. Imagine if the officer had fallen backwards (he went pretty far in his 'retreat' to follow snowflake training procedures), or if the officer had been set upon from the side/rear if he had an accomplice in the area? He was also trained to only fire one shot as far as I can tell from the Fibune story.
Savage Action!
Spectacular Thrills!
Dynamic Violence!
No it’s not the opening trailer to Godzilla, King of the Monsters.
Welcome to Rahm Emanuel’s Violent Feral Sanctuary City.
Can the taxpayers get a refund on that Cat-5 rampage UC scholarship?
I am always amazed that the news media finds some people who ALWAYS criticizing the Police. My question is did the snowflakes see the video? I would love for them to explain how the Police should have handled the incident without using deadly force if they saw the video.
Anonymous said...
I had to laugh at the “student’s parents were notified” line in the press release. It sounds as if the school/police department contacted them. Sorry, but this offender is 21 years old. Last time I checked, 21 is an adult. I will play the race card here...I seriously doubt any family member would have been notified if the offender was some thug from Englewood.
4/05/2018 02:48:00 AM
nice observation and comment but there is a big difference between the injury of a student who happens to be an adult by age and an adult on the streets of Englewood. That difference is school policies.
(OT) this idiot is for open borders he likes our mayor look what’s going on in his town just like Chicago:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/04/05/lead-surgeon-london-hospital-war-zone-two-slaughtered-overnight/
Just saw video on the news of this rabid savage in action. Shows to regular people what the police are faced with. Does anyone really think that deescalation with this nutcase would have worked? How stupid are they to mention on the news that the officer had crisis intervention training. I don’t care of you are Dr Freud, you wouldn’t be able to stop this maniac. Anyone who says that firearm shouldn’t have been used should be put in the same situation so that the the moron could first hand see what the consequences would be. People need to understand that it’s not a requirement to be beat up or be killed to be a police. Unfortunately the beast is alive to sue the police.
Very dangerous precedent they are setting with glorifying this officers retreat running away from the charging offender aka de-escalation. Then boosting about him shooting ONLY once striking him in the shoulder.
I'm worries the student will not be able to study for finals.........
Some good video from the scene. U of C has bodycams and car cameras.
Kid was obviously having a mental breakdown, but he was advancing with pipe and cop did back up and try to handle situation non violently.
Be warned after being shot the "mental" uses some naughty language.
Some idiots at the University calling for Campus cops to be disbanded or disarmed.
Just search twitter. My guess is officer will be OK and community will accept shooting as necessary. A big part of the reason the areas that U of C Police patrol are relatively low crime is because of that patrolling.
Now if the cop had been armed with a taser, or a bean bag or a Star Trek phaser he could have handled it differently, but he wasn't so..........
https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=news&q=university%20of%20chicago%20police&src=typd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anSsm-mGbhU
Only in America has the good and evil line been blurred so badly.
If the officer tells you to drop the pipe, you drop the pipe (after "allegedly" breaking windows, property. Kind of like an admission of guilt.
So, now, the original bad guy, who of course, nobody wants in their neighborhood, is the "victim" of the "awful, gun-wielding po-lice" if I'm correct.
The cop is portrayed now as the bad guy and the thug/gang member/perp "turning himself around" is the victim, of course.
The demonization of authority, including police, parents, etc has proliferated in the past several decades, to the point of right is wrong and wrong is right.
It's in your schools (indoctrination by teachers), your media, ads on TV, even sadly in the workplace, the churches and the very law of a once great country.
NOT ILLINOIS. NOT LAW.
>>>Anonymous Anonymous said...
After Fathead Ed strip the U of C officer, COPA is going to rule the shooting unjustified.<<<
Post was sarcastic but appartenly some knucklehead don't know the meaning of it...What a dummy!!! See below
Anonymous Anonymous said...
1. COPA has no jurisdiction to investigate the UofC Police officer; UCPD is not part of CPD, and has legal authority by State law to operate its own police force.
4/05/2018 09:28:00 AM
Its comforting to know that Northwestern's Center on Wrongful Convictions Bluhm Legal Clinic will represent the supposedly super intelligent U of C student. Northwestern's legal services address: erroneous witness identification, false and coerced confessions, official misconduct, inadequate legal defense, false forensic evidence, perjury and incentivized testimony (snitches). Legal costs and the expected civil payout will be passed onto fellow U of C students in the form of a tuition increase. Hopefully Norhtwestern law can stick it to the U of C and give their finances a taste of social justice reforms courtesy of the Wildcats. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
Note: The U of C law school " The Exoneration Project" wanted to be the lead Counsel suing the University of Chicago for civil rights abuses. Clinical teacher Jon Loevy made the wise decision not to sue his university realizing his money making scheme or exoneration project my be defunded and ultimately disbanded by certain retaliation from the Board of Regents. No exoneration project equals no opportunity to make side money for the law firm bearing his name in the form of 30% of the final judgement and associated legal fees from those business leads generated through university sponsored legal clinics.
Aren't college students supposed to have some smarts, before they go to college? Did this students parents send him/her to kindergarten before potty training?
Do they really need a "Don't Be A Dumbass" course in college?
J.J.
......even sadly in the workplace, the churches and the very law of a once great country.
NOT ILLINOIS. NOT LAW.
4/05/2018 02:46:00 PM
You left out....NOT AMERICAN......in your signature monicker....
Oh, and on the unlikely possibility you don't recognize your tell......the "once great country" revealed you to be not feasible.....
nice observation and comment but there is a big difference between the injury of a student who happens to be an adult by age and an adult on the streets of Englewood. That difference is school policies.
4/05/2018 10:35:00 AM
Ah, yes, those student policies are such a huge difference......why, it's as huge a difference as, say, oh.....tuition....?????
Breaking car windows, huh. Sacramento see, Sacramento do...
- not a LEO
Kid's mom: "she expressed reservations about the need for the officer to use deadly force."
Okay, mom, the next time little Charlie aggressively confronts you in a deranged state with a weapon, you should try a little nurturing talk therapy with him...if you recover from your massive head injury.
If the officer intentionally aimed for the kid's shoulder, mama should be extremely grateful to him that her son ended up at a hospital instead of the morgue.
Psychiatric breakdown or drug induced craziness, the kid's lucky to be alive. Dontcha love having to clean up the mess of others?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Good work officer! You have a right to go home to your family at the end of your shift. Whatever this guy with the pipe was on/thinking he got what he deserved, possibly even better than he deserved.
And again bastardize and blame the police the song remains the same;
Mother of student shot by U. of C. police had worries about his mental health
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-charles-thomas-university-of-chicago-20180405-story.html
Again;This is a person in the midst of crisis, like a person who is having a heart attack, and our police officers … were so afraid of this scary kid that they had to try to kill him,” Peltz, who’s from Boston, said.
Four faculty members published a letter in the campus newspaper Thursday calling for a broader and deeper discussion of campus police.
“This is a private police force, it’s the second largest in the state and it’s likely among the largest private police forces in the country. So the role of a private police force in the community is something that deserves to be interrogated: what role should they play?” said Reuben Jonathan Miller, an assistant professor in the School of Social Service Administration.
*ye little snowflake again your melting down like the idiots you are!
COPA is an embarrassing failure. Before the election Rham will appoint a Blue Ribbon Committee to re-evaluate civilian oversight of the CPD. Look for democrat stallworth Dan Burke to oversee the review.
Private College and University Police Departments have authority from the State to have jurisdiction on their campuses meaning university property and directly adjoining streets. The City has given Special Police Commissions to certain College and University Police Departments giving them jurisdiction off the campus proper. This is an exsmple of the latter. The City may decide to discontinue this policy if enough SJW pitch a bitch about private police forces. Thry all wisen up after getting battered or robbed or worse.
A retired detective from St. Louis on how he solved so many homicides:
https://www.quora.com/How-do-police-officers-pay-their-informants/answer/Benjamin-Bender-1
The offender worn a face shield just Incase he was pepper- He knew exactly what he was doing.
Wawawa cry babies. Their biggest stress is doing research and writing thesis papers. Some will remain in academia the rest of their lives. Can't even try to put themselves in the po's shoes yet so quick to pass judgement.Frankly that young man is lucky he only took a bullet to his shoulder.
Does anyone else think that this la situations use of "de escalation" tactics of sprinting away made the issue worse as he was then in a cross fire situation putting himself and other coppers behind the offender at a greater risk? I guess the first mistake is actually getting out of the squad :(
Does anyone else think that in this situation the use of "de escalation" tactics of sprinting away made the issue worse as the officer was in a cross fire situation putting himself and other coppers behind the offender at a greater risk? I guess the first mistake is actually getting out of the squad :(
Let the U of C professors pitch a bitch, who cares? What they do not realize that the CPD cannot make Hyde Park safe for them. If it was not for the University Police the crime rate would sky rocket for they are surrounded by shithole neighborhoods .There used to be a lot of off duty and retired CPD working for the U of C police Department and a former Deputy Supt in charge ( Rudy). They used to do a good job.
On another related note the year was 1996 Archer Ave I tried that tactical retreat in a parking lot with a mental and truthfully I fell backward hitting my head on cement got a concussion
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I’m glad you’re alive today to tell that story. Sorry, to hear about your concussion. To you and the other poster who commented, I agree with what you say. It’s just crazy to me and I don’t understand what is expected of us. We are expected to face a crazy situation with so many variables and make a split second decision. That decision must result in a happy ending or else we are crucified. The department has a herbal order on cowardice that needs to be removed. Honestly, the argument can be made that our own policy on cowardice forces officers to act in a way that stops a threat with deadly force, if necessary. If the good citizens don’t want that, fine, we will conduct “tactical retreats,” al the time. The result must be that we are absolved of guilt when the assailant(s) move on to injuring and killing other pedestrians.
I feel pathetic for adopting this mentality on one hand but on the other hand there is no other logical or sane way to respond. I’ll continue to assist other officers in 10-1S/emergency, but my police action ends there. I refuse to get crucified for these snowflakes. Jesus sacrificed himself for the sins of man. However, I’m not Jesus nor will I pretend to be.
Stay safe, healthy and employed in these crazy times.
I worked in the 30 sector of 021 and the University of Chicago coppers were great! They backed me up and helped me many times on calls. I was always happy to see them and cannot say enough good about them. They deserve kudos, not disdain from the U of C student body. The idiots calling for disbanding or disarming the U of C police better get a concealed carry permit because without the U of C police, they will be at the mercy of the transient criminal horde of Chicago.
Interesting.......... mom said that the weed caused the pyschosis to get worse. Yet we will legalize it here in Illinois.............
http://wgntv.com/2018/04/06/mom-of-student-shot-by-u-of-c-police-says-shes-worried-about-his-mental-health/
No police involvement next time. Let the liberal intervention specialist respond and handle the issue. Afterwards, the police may arrive and clean up the carnage and/or the victims may then sue the offender civilly.
UCPD are not Chicago Special Police; they are under commissioned under the Illinois Private CState law, so again, they do not fall under COPA's authority.
(110 ILCS 1020/0.01) (from Ch. 144, par. 1950)
Sec. 0.01. Short title. This Act may be cited as the Private College Campus Police Act.
(Source: P.A. 86-1324.)
(110 ILCS 1020/1) (from Ch. 144, par. 1951)
Sec. 1. The Board of Trustees of a private college or private university, may appoint persons to be members of a campus police department. The Board shall assign duties...
The City did establish the College's patrol boundaries, but they are not "Special Policemen" under the MCC.
video shows cop did everything he could including retreating to avoid having to shoot the offender. but once the guy came after the cop with a pipe not a lot he could do but shoot him.
Interesting.......... mom said that the weed caused the pyschosis to get worse. Yet we will legalize it here in Illinois.............
4/06/2018 02:20:00 PM
Gee.....what else did mom say.....being the expert on all things psychotic......
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