Shrinking Chicago
- The Chicago area has lost residents for a third consecutive year while the country’s Southern and Western areas saw population gains.
An estimated 13,286 residents left the Chicago metropolitan area — which extends from the city to its suburbs and into parts of Indiana and Wisconsin — according to 2017 data released Thursday by the U.S. Census Bureau. It translates to a decrease of less than 1 percent.
The metropolitan area has seen gradual declines in population, losing 11,177 residents in 2016 and 3,371 in 2015, according to the Census Bureau.
That doesn’t mean all of the areas within the metropolitan area are losing residents. Suburban counties such as Will, Kane, McHenry and Kendall saw population increases in 2017. In fact, the population of Kendall County, west of the city, increased by 1 percent, or 1,645 residents, census data show.
In contrast, Cook County saw a loss of 20,093 residents in 2017, according to the Census Bureau. Still, it maintained its spot as the second-most-populous county in the nation while also experiencing the largest numerical decrease in population compared with the nation’s other top 10 counties. It adds up to less than a 1 percent population change.
What could possibly be causing this desertion?
Labels: city politics, county
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
51 Comments:
Raise dem tax prickwinkle... got to make the lose change elsewhere
SO in the last election, the D's realized that their base was condensed inside a few small areas of the country. Rahm decides to help out by making D's leave Chicago and saturate Republican areas. They are doing this in hopes of disrupting the next vote. I remember reading a recent article about how a Chicago woman moved to Indiana and was defending it as a great place. She went on to say how she hopes to use her vote to make it even better by bringing in more liberal ideas. She fails to see that the reason she likes Indiana is because her liberal ideas are not there and that she will corrode the very area she is defending by voting like a Chicagoan.
The numbers given reflect an exponential increase in the decrease if population. Ie a snowball effect likened to a runaway train. We left for Florida in 2016 with one regret. That regret is that we didn't leave sooner.
The numbers given reflect an exponential increase in the decrease in population. Ie a snowball effect likened to a runaway train. We left for Florida in 2016 with one regret. That regret is that we didn't leave sooner.
I can't tell. Traffic still sucks.
It is time to cut the number of Alderpeople [or Folks] by two thirds!
No need for all of these loser Yes people, never challenging King Rahm!
Lots of money savings with cutting these waste of space and salaries!
CWB had a fantastic analysis on their Twitter. 18 % of the people Chicago lost last year were due to being murdered. 3xxx left, 675 homicides. That’s 18 percent. Ha-Rahm-bug!
Low birthrate maybe?
Lots of old folks dying off.
Chicago is the next Detroit. . I plan on moving and advise everyone I know to do the same. The DemocRATS really messed this place up. I will move to a low crime, low tax, and pro second amendment area.
Two years left.
The media wants to down play it. The city went to shit and they hope if everyone pretends it isn't happening then maybe it will stop. It is going to really pick up
Keep voting the same people in and expect something different.
How many that left were Taxpaying Citizens?
How many of Crook County's new denizens are taxpayers or citizens?
Retired CPD in Oklahoma says......
Hell, I can type all night, Start with taxes, corruption, crime....Grew up on 86th Baltimore back in the 50-60's. Always was home, moved to Mt. Greenwood,....became the new home with the wife and kids. Watched Chicago slide down, as egos were stroked for democrat hacks and merit assholes rose into power of getting votes over policing. Leadership and skills were replaced.
Seen it all with Fast Eddie, Chicago 29, Mayor Washington, Mayor Jane, Little Richie, and asshole Rahm the littlest punk I ever seen. It was about getting the money, cause in Chicago there is alway more to steal, always more.
Kids grew up moved on, Wife and myself retired we always knew we would not stay since the days of little Richie I sensed the BIG decline coming. Money was going to run out or the taxpayer would.
Wife found the house in Oklahoma, up in the mountains. She always been a good shopper! Asshole realtor in Chicago, "Don't go to Oklahoma, those ole boys, racist, all cowboys, drunk Indians..." Just wanted us to stay and move every few years to declining neighborhoods or being taxed out. In other words his job security ...not our best interest.
Knowing today, what I could have known thirty years ago, I would have left Chicago then. Best thing I ever done since saying I do to my wife of forty years.
Today, it is simple math to leave, no job security, might even wind up in prison years down the road when the new group of social justice warriors decide its your time to review a case that been closed, shut, and forgotten by all. Except someone wanting to be a by line in the SLum Times or needs a footing for local Alderthief.
Nothing in Chicago these days 'cept a few pizza places, good beef sandwich places....and you know what. You can have them FEDEX them to you. Most are closing up or moving now days also.
My advice, move while you can still sell your property. When the state/city go bankrupt, you will be walking away from it. You won't have any choice living next to dudu inc. or the hoards of illegals that will be demanding things and free stuff. Remember ...when you move to a new place, that democrat Chicago life ...These people never seen that, they do not want to. Be yourself. You will always fit in.
Any retired/active CPD/CFD will always be welcomed for a weekend free here in my nice four bedroom home with 100 acres view from a mountain top. Just to see there is life outside IL-Annoy. Going make another pot of coffee, then feed the horse the wife bought me last week.
Stay Safe....
Stay Fetal....
...and a Super Big Fuck you Rahm, you little punk.
.
Jeez, with all these people leaving like gang busters you’d think that they were being taxed to death for living in a city/county that is run by incompetent morons who let criminals rule the streets.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Maybe they should just rename the City East St. Louis. Oops, already taken. A couple more Special Exports' and I'll come up with something original.
5/24/2018 02:19:00 AM
How about South West Detroit?
No state income tax in South Dakota, and pensions are fully funded!
Time to downsize city and county governments.
Cut the number of both aldermen and county commissioners in half.
Possibly look into those streets and sanitation jobs too. How many of those are unneeded patronage jobs?
(Heard there’s over 50,000 workers in just that department)
I hope the people leaving vote differently than the did in Chicago. Otherwise you'll take the rest of us down, and eventually, like a poor Venezuelan, you'll have nowhere to go.
Put away the Special Exports my friend. I have an unlimited supply of my famous white wine spritzers if you are so inclined.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!!
Tax payers leave. Tax takers come.
Wow! A whopping .49% decrease in population over a 2 year period! Whatever will Chicago do? That will definitely shut down and bankrupt the city! All the doom and gloom is simply unjustified and silly and anyone comparing Chicago to Detroit needs to take off their tinfoil hat and give their brain some fresh air.
I get NW Indiana real estate listings emailed to me weekly and found the perfect home in Dyer. The Illinois state line borders the back yard. I'm dreaming of flipping off Illinois from my back yard while I sip my morning coffee on a daily basis.
don't worry, the illegals will more than make up for the loss
Are they all leaving, or being buried?
J.J.
To the Oklahoma retiree- what about tornado alley? Is that where you are? Can you tell us where you live? Can you tell me more about that? Your posts have been very interesting to me. Thanks.
Acquaintances moved to Florida but visited here recently and talked of how nice it was to leave our very high taxes. Problem is, they are democrats and will vote that way in every Florida election "because our parents always did". They will soon turn Florida into a high tax state and just cannot admit that the party their parents voted for has been hijacked by far left radicals long ago.
Retired CPD in Oklahoma says......
Hell, I can type all night, Start with taxes, corruption, crime....Grew up on 86th Baltimore back in the 50-60's. Always was home, moved to Mt. Greenwood,....became the new home with the wife and kids. Watched Chicago slide down, as egos were stroked for democrat hacks and merit assholes rose into power of getting votes over policing. Leadership and skills were replaced.
Seen it all with Fast Eddie, Chicago 29, Mayor Washington, Mayor Jane, Little Richie, and asshole Rahm the littlest punk I ever seen. It was about getting the money, cause in Chicago there is alway more to steal, always more.
Kids grew up moved on, Wife and myself retired we always knew we would not stay since the days of little Richie I sensed the BIG decline coming. Money was going to run out or the taxpayer would.
Wife found the house in Oklahoma, up in the mountains. She always been a good shopper! Asshole realtor in Chicago, "Don't go to Oklahoma, those ole boys, racist, all cowboys, drunk Indians..." Just wanted us to stay and move every few years to declining neighborhoods or being taxed out. In other words his job security ...not our best interest.
Knowing today, what I could have known thirty years ago, I would have left Chicago then. Best thing I ever done since saying I do to my wife of forty years.
Today, it is simple math to leave, no job security, might even wind up in prison years down the road when the new group of social justice warriors decide its your time to review a case that been closed, shut, and forgotten by all. Except someone wanting to be a by line in the SLum Times or needs a footing for local Alderthief.
Nothing in Chicago these days 'cept a few pizza places, good beef sandwich places....and you know what. You can have them FEDEX them to you. Most are closing up or moving now days also.
My advice, move while you can still sell your property. When the state/city go bankrupt, you will be walking away from it. You won't have any choice living next to dudu inc. or the hoards of illegals that will be demanding things and free stuff. Remember ...when you move to a new place, that democrat Chicago life ...These people never seen that, they do not want to. Be yourself. You will always fit in.
Any retired/active CPD/CFD will always be welcomed for a weekend free here in my nice four bedroom home with 100 acres view from a mountain top. Just to see there is life outside IL-Annoy. Going make another pot of coffee, then feed the horse the wife bought me last week.
Stay Safe....
Stay Fetal....
...and a Super Big Fuck you Rahm, you little punk.
.
Isn't there a 5% income tax on your pension in Oklahoma?
Tax and spend Democrats
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I remember reading a recent article about how a Chicago woman moved to Indiana and was defending it as a great place. She went on to say how she hopes to use her vote to make it even better by bringing in more liberal ideas. She fails to see that the reason she likes Indiana is because her liberal ideas are not there and that she will corrode the very area she is defending by voting like a Chicagoan.
5/25/2018 12:24:00 AM
This is exactly what is wrong with a large segment of society. A family from "the community" will move from a shithole part of the city to a nice suburb, and then bring their ghetto ways with them, which ruins the nice suburb and eventually turns it into the same type of place that they left in the first place. Makes no sense. If you want a nice place to live, learn how to behave and keep up your property, or keep your ass in the ghetto.
Rahm is being helped by the suburbs.
Real estate taxes in the suburbs like Wilmette and Winnetka and Oak Park and River Forest have gone through the roof with the average homeowner paying $15-25,000 a year in property taxes. After the kids have graduated from high school, many of the homeowners move to the city because the property taxes are much lower.
And when Chicagoans with kids see the property taxes in the suburbs, they often stay in Chicago.
If the property taxes in the suburbs were 50% less, Chicago would have a much larger population loss.
More room for non taxpaying illegals. Can you tax increase needed, you can't but Rahim can. First order of business after he is reelected. State is also going to enact another sales tax increase to make up shortfall of revenues due to the 33,700 leaving state last year. Looks like a 1-1.5% increase being considered. This on top of a toll road fee increase and $.10/gallon gas tax. The beat goes on.
But, but, but.....you tax paying fools can't leave......who's gonna pay for all the unfortunates here? Our public schools are filled with
children who need your support, who need you to keep paying in to support them....our teachers need you to pay their percentage of
retirement fund 7%, so they can continue to teach the 50% that might graduate high school with their 6th grade ability to read, write, speak.
You are needed to buy homes and pay exorbitant house taxes for the privilege of living in such a safe, clean, haven of democracy. You need to stay and shop the Golden Mile downtown, especially after dark, it's really very safe. Read your newspapers, watch the tv news.....there are no roving bands of hundreds of youths- beating, robbing, accosting people who are visiting our downtown......if it isn't on tv, or in the
newspapers, it didn't happen.......there isn't an increase of armed carjackings.....well, maybe a few misguided children did take a few joyrides, as children might tend to do, but really, they were just funning! So stay.....enjoy the hot summer that's coming.....
We are all in this together......stay, enjoy, visit our wonderful museums and shops.....thank you......R.E.
This article can not be true...this sounds like a job for The Real Estate Guuuuuuuuru <1970s> comic movie Voice.
All those who left Chicago, living and dead,
will vote demoCrap in the midterm and city elections.
North St. Louis.
A lot of The Community are moving out to what were once bucolic Republican strongholds. The town where I still live has seen a huge influx of Section 8 renters. I have noticed that they have doubled the size of the county courthouse, and now have doubled the size of the county jail, as well. Our local law enforcement professionals all assure us that there is no crime problem, but if that is true, why did we need to fund all this expansion of the courts, and the slammer?
I have seen reports all the way from eastern Iowa of their celebration of an increased Tapestry of Diversity there, and its resultant criminal activity.
Flee while there is still time!
Born in Chicago in 1970. I went away to college, but I came back about 1997.
I moved to Texas in about 2008. Here's what helped me along:
Taxes were outrageous, property, sales (who taxes food), bottles, city sticker (really?).
Parking (enforcement, really) was outrageous.
"No Parking in the Loop" ticket about once a month even though a Federal Court said it was an illegal ordinance (and I didn't violate any other parking restrictions at the same time). "Not parking in a metered space" tickets, for basically finding a spot that isn't controlled by a meter, but read the ordinance, it doesn't say what I was ticketed for, dozens of times. They towed, I mean trashed, my motorcycle when I parked in the morning at the same spot I always parked, there was no "No Parking" sign. When I came out for lunch, there was a No Parking sign and my bike was ruined. At least the city is transparent. It's not the Police who did all the awful things, but Revenue. Yes, it's freaking called Revenue. Not even a feint toward making all this non sense sound like it's for safety or something.
Redlight tickets went into effect even though the city did not comply with the state statute that authorized the city to have redlight tickets.
My neighborhood, Ukranian Village became way expensive to the point I missed the homeless guys pushing shopping carts stacked with pallets and the immigrants who would drive a city tow vehicle onto Superior Street, drop the towed vehicle, and then swap out the rims, it was faster than NASCAR. Note, the bums and rim thefts were things I found amusing, and not a reason I moved.
The weather didn't help. I was back visiting for SnowMageddon, so I was already gone, but Freakin Thundersnow, and the buses losing traction and sealing off Lake Shore Drive?
The smoking ban didn't help; even as a smoker, I kind of understand that one (but taxes on smokes were offensive, I used to go to Indiana a lot, and grocery/appliance/gas shop too, long before Soda Tax). Anyway, many friends and I won't go 3 hours without a smoke, so we had to stop going to NHL and baseball games. It just wansn't worth it. After the smoking ban, my credit card, which was all bars and restaurants went from about $1000 a month to almost nothing. I'm sure that made non-smokers happy. I was OK with "HandleBar" that was voluntarily non-smoking, but to pass an ordinance to "protect workers" when the owner/bartender in my dive bar smoked smelled worse than an old ciggy butt.
Looking over the foregoing, I sure seem like a real jag. Chicago's probably happy to be rid of me. That's OK, I'm happy I moved on too.
The Illinois Fed is saying that they need to raise property taxes another full percent of value. This on top of the current insane property taxes.
With taxes like those, do you own your own home, or are you just renting it from the city of Chicago and Crook County?
Can you afford those taxes after you retire?
How much will your house be worth if those taxes get passed?
Anonymous said...
I get NW Indiana real estate listings emailed to me weekly and found the perfect home in Dyer. The Illinois state line borders the back yard. I'm dreaming of flipping off Illinois from my back yard while I sip my morning coffee on a daily basis.
5/25/2018 07:13:00 AM
Instead of sipping coffee, you should chug that stuff like a frat boy during pledge week. Then you could piss on Illinois several times a day.
Note: If the fence is electrified for retaining livestock, turn the fence OFF when "watering" Illinois soil.
just a
Yeah, it's just a 0.49% decrease in population, or its just another 0.49% tax increase for those that stay, maybe?
A 0.49% decrease in crime would be made out to be like the second coming of Christ by the demonrats, but it's just 0.49%.
J.J.
Anonymous said...
This article can not be true...this sounds like a job for The Real Estate Guuuuuuuuru <1970s> comic movie Voice.
5/25/2018 10:37:00 AM
Meanwhile, over at the Fortress of Attitude (informally known as the Maxi-Pad), Captain RE/MAX sees a distinctive light on the south face of the Sears Tower . . .
"The $ign is lit! Fear not, citizen, for I hear your plea! I respond whenever my fou ... I mean, fair city summons me to render aid
and assistance! Up, up and awaaaaaaaay!!!!"
Am I the only one hearing the John Williams soundtrack?
Ed Norton to Ralph Kramden: I told you to stay
away from Trixie.
Ralph: It was my day off and Trixie told me she found a
petrified log in the toilet, Mr. Sanitation Engineer.
Ed: She couldn't wait till I got home?
Ralph: Well your bathroom window is stuck shut
and you got no screen. Ever hear of paraffin?
Ed: I don't like fish. I work in a sewer!
Ralph: Paraffin is candle wax. I seen 'em before in
your place when the power went out.
Ed: And just how am I supposed to know that?
Ralph: Well I'm no Engineer, but I do read the Sun
Times on my break.
Ed: You got nerve to complain about my shit. I probably
ran into yours numerous times during my decades of service.
Ralph: We're just talking in Loops here. It's time we both leave
The Second City while we still got our rims.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wow! A whopping .49% decrease in population over a 2 year period! Whatever will Chicago do? That will definitely shut down and bankrupt the city! All the doom and gloom is simply unjustified and silly and anyone comparing Chicago to Detroit needs to take off their tinfoil hat and give their brain some fresh air.
5/25/2018 07:04:00 AM
The little numbers all add up. Fact is Illinois will loose at least one, perhaps two congressional seats after the next census and that is a big deal. Per capita debt of each Chicago resident is greater then Detroit. That piper must be paid sooner or later somehow. Service cuts, pension cuts or tax increases or all of the above. Not one of those options play well for the city.
I'm confident they counted the 89 yr old Paletas vendor
who scored more than $360 K in a GoFundMe campaign
so he could finally retire from pushing his cart through
Little Village in 90 degree weather back on 9-15-2016.
He probably netted $240 K after the IRS picked his pocket.
I’m looking for a few good admin assistants to assist in handling the marked influx of residents into downtown Chicago. I simply cannot do this on my own anymore. It’s as if Chicago turned on a money magnet, drawing in affluent, tax-paying citizens to all of Chicago, especially downtown, from all over the world. Heck, I even had a few martians banging my phone line looking for listings. Rumor has it that Chicago is currently the hottest market in the universe. Yes, folks, you heard right...hottest in the UNIVERSE!
Duties include:
- answering telephone calls, between 2,699 and 2,700 calls per day
- commercial DL to drive buses loaded with prospective buyers
- be completely soft
- get others to buy into this cult, I mean business
Serious inquiries only please.
Real estate Guru
Isn't there a 5% income tax on your pension in Oklahoma?
5/25/2018 07:57:00 AM
My lawyer doing my taxes says no,...Income from (pension) is not over $250,000
Blogger Big Daddy said...
To the Oklahoma retiree- what about tornado alley? Is that where you are? Can you tell us where you live? Can you tell me more about that? Your posts have been very interesting to me. Thanks.
5/25/2018 07:22:00 AM
Not in tornado alley,...On the Eastern side of the state seven hour drive from Chicago, the counties of Cherokee, Delaware, Adair, Sequoyah, Le Flore seem to all roll into one, hardly a stop sign or red light as you drive thru them all (minus the bigger towns). You see U.S. Marshals cars / Game Warden cars, more often then Sheriffs or town police reason being Indian reservation land ( this is all Cherokee Nation) Right on the Ar. border along (N & S of I-40 South of I-44 )...Fort Smith Ar. ( across the river, hanging Judge Parker town.. wonderful museum ) Tahlequah Oklahoma, Cherokee capital are the "big towns". Everything within a hour drive, no traffic, no lights,...open country roads 65 mph.
Muskogee and Tulsa are the big city. Did I mention Tenkiller Lake, any fisherman knows world class bass and crappie fishing in Vian. Almost like Mayberry and Leave it to Beaver type towns. I leave my keys in the pick-up and car. At the house, doors we hardly lock when going to town, never at night anymore, sometimes we do if gone all day. Leave the windows screen door open at night in fall and spring. (we have dogs)
Perhaps thru SSC a private message could be arranged for my actual address and phone. As I stated I would be more happy to show any CPD/CFD the area for a weekend.
Life outside of Chicago is great, no problem fitting in. Just be yourself. This big Polish guy with the "Chicago accent" has no problems wife loves it also. Had a few friends from Chicago come down, old partner from the 02 (04) Simon (black man) visited with his wife and son he said six more and they are gone from Chicago. He is looking to Florida as his family moved there last year.
Stay safe...
The dirt does not care.
Piss on the dirt, the dirt cares not.
Shit on the dirt, the dirt feasts.
Bleed on the dirt, the dirt merely shrugs.
Decompose on the dirt, the dirt celebrates.
Disturb the dirt, the dirt abides.
Build upon the dirt, the dirt waits patiently.
Pretend you own the dirt, the dirt snickers.
Lay claim to the dirt, the dirt knows it will claim you.
The dirt just don't care.
The dirt is carefree.
Envy the dirt.
Do not dispair.
For one day soon, you shall be what you envy.
(An Ode to Real Estate Hustlers)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Isn't there a 5% income tax on your pension in Oklahoma?
5/25/2018 07:57:00 AM
My lawyer doing my taxes says no,...Income from (pension) is not over $250,000
Get a new lawyer. He’s wrong.
Income Tax Brackets
Married, Filing Separately
Oklahoma Taxable Income Rate
$3,750 - $4,900 3.0%
$4,900 - $7,200 4.0%
$7,200+ 5.0%
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Isn't there a 5% income tax on your pension in Oklahoma?
5/25/2018 07:57:00 AM
My lawyer doing my taxes says no,...Income from (pension) is not over $250,000
Wouldn’t waste my time talking to this guy. He’s wrong about everything especially the $250,000 exemption
Oklahoma give you a $10,000 deduction on your pension or 401k or in our case deferred. So if you use the 10k on your pension you still have to pay the full state tax on your deferred plus your pension minus a 10,000 deduction.
Oklahoma Retirement Tax Friendliness. Oklahoma provides a full exemption for Social Security retirement benefits. It also provides a $10,000 deduction toward other types of retirement income such as from a 401(k) or a pension. Although sales taxes in Oklahoma are high, property taxes are among the lowest in the country ...
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5/25/2018 07:57:00 AM
Wouldn’t waste my time talking to this guy. He’s wrong about everything .....
Go get your fucking shine box merit boy. Don't forget to put your Rahm / Dart Vote Democrat sign on your lawn also asshole.
Go get your fucking shine box merit boy. Don't forget to put your Rahm / Dart Vote Democrat sign on your lawn also asshole.
Taking the shoe shine box to Oklahoma. Don’t have to pay taxes on my first $250,000 income
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