Still Leaving?
- That’s how many residents left Illinois last year.
People leave the state for a variety of reasons from weather to career opportunities.
But experts say Illinois’ population loss bucks national trends and is the opposite of what surrounding states are seeing.
WGN Investigates traveled to Nashville, Tennessee to catch up with Chicagoans who made the move for financial reasons. How did they know it made sense? Do they have any regrets?
You can see the whole report at the link up top. We all know plenty of cops (and other city workers) that have joined the exodus.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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They said financial reasons where part of the story. They also felt the political corruption was another main reason and didn’t feel that was going to change
I'm one of the fleeing residents. I retired and left Illinois. My real-estate taxes are about 20% of what they were and so much of a public service pension is exempt I only paid $190 in state income tax.
It's largely the boomers retiring and moving on. The more troubling group is the young adults who can do the math.
You need a damn good income to live comfortably in Chicago.
Nashville, for all of its booming business and exploding country music venues and related bars/eateries, isn't all paradise.
I spoke with officers down there when I attended a country music concert there last summer. The officers I spoke to who
worked the event told me that staffing levels of the Nashville PD have remained the same over the past 20 years, in spite
of huge population growth, because they, like other municipalities, cannot attract good numbers of qualified police applicants.
So think about that when you head down to Nashville. More people leaving the job than coming on. No real strength in numbers
of police staffing there in 2 decades, despite the population booms. Oh, and you cannot carry a gun into most venues. You are
even made to walk through a metal detector to enter Vanderbilt University Hospital.
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I got out last year and am loving it. Bought a more expensive house with a fantastic view, and I’m paying less per month because my property taxes are a third what they were in IL.
And folks - people here were literally LAUGHING about the latest IL proposal to jack up property taxes by 1 or 2 percent to pay for the state’s pension scewups. What theft.
I think my timing was absolutely perfect. But the window is still open, although it’s closing fast. Get out while you still can.
Keep raising taxes and people will continue to flee, including me
Startling. Unfortunately Nashville, Austin and other booming cities don’t have the infrastructure in places e and they are growing in much the same manner as LA did in the 40s and 50s, creating traffic nightmares throughout. Still, it should serve as a wake up call to our asshole leaders like Rahm, Rauner and Madigan that time is running out.
That was my tax atty telling people to move. I’m gone as soon as my house is sold.
Ret 2017
For me I will leave in two years and it's because of; taxes, crime, anti-gun politicians, over regulations, liberal thoughts on crime and incarceration, anti police politicians and open racism by politicians and media.
I'm going to move to a pro-gun, pro-Police, pro-tax payer and low crime area. I can't wait. They are really going to miss all the good people leaving when we are gone.
Wait until 2020 and they do an official head count as required by law. I know a lot of people who left, planing stage with leaving or who are in the talking state. My wife and I have maded our decision to leave when I retire in six years. We both can't wait.
South Side is a super high crime area. Who wants to live in it!
Even if they turned it all around I have made up my mind to leave. This place has be come the land of politicians know best.
Don't leave and move to Texas. The weather there is hotter than the hinges of hell almost year round. It is full of bugs, snakes and other unfriendly critters, and they are being invaded along their southern border.
Believe me the grass is a lot better when you leave Shit-cago!
Four years!
I grew up on the South Side and it isn't the same as it was in the 80's when I went to high school. Now you better drive with a gun in the car. Who wants to be in the red zone while living life. I plan on moving so far away from this high taxes, free stuff and violence. You will need to fill up twice with gas just to visit me. I plan on moving one last time. My parents had to move because good neighborhoods would turn to a crime ridden neighborhood. Who wants to be a victim!
The year is 2035, the sign greeting visitors... "Welcome to Chicago Illinois, home to thugs and illegals, that's all that's left"
Detroit should be Chicago's sister city!
Wait until everyone takes a pay cut. It's coming - thanks to Daily and Rahm.
Retired CPD in Oklahoma says.....
Moved here in 2015, up in the mountains taxes $965 year for $250K house on 100 acres, small town living find anyone in elected office (county/town) working their farm, store and talk with them anytime. Crime, have some minor but report something stolen expect the chief and every police, sheriff will be on it and most curplits are rounded up before the week is out. Everyone carries out here open or CCW...everyone carries!
Surprised me most are how polite the kids (under 21) are. Wife had a flat, pick-up truck of school kids changed it for her, they help with loading bags a store, refuse any tips, always say Sir or Miss when addressing you. wear my CPD cap, always give you 10% off without asking, I cannot tell you how many meals been paid for me/wife when we eat out.
Yes, police or military treated in highest regards. Nearest neighbor two miles but they always bring wife, eggs, butter,etc. Go to town, hardware store or restaurants have retired guys drinking coffee offering advice hunting, where to get parts, help, or whatever you need.
What impressed me, seeing the county commissioner working (driving a road grader) with a road crew when a road washed out, the whole day not for a picture take either. Someone passes away, The Pastors / Preachers/ Priest go door to door for a collection to help the family, ask for help with the farm if needed...all the money going to the family. Not for vanity lic. plates or gun protest marching T-shirts.
Life is good outside Chicago and Crook County. What do I miss from Chicago...local neighborhood pizza! Not the downtown name crap.
My advice, move ...so much more out there. Makes me wish I would have started the department out here in 1971 rather then first day in the "Green".
Stay Safe.....
Stay Fetal....
Go Home......
And a big Fuck You to Rahm, you little Punk asshole.
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A lot of people that I know or my circle of friends and family know has moved. The talk is "move out".
going, going and gone! LOL! How do you like us now! They took the hard working people for granted!
Leaving a sinking ship. High taxes, corrupt government, and then there is the high, violent crime. Sounding better and better every year.
Don't worry for every taxpaying citizen leaving the state they are being replaced by 2 illegal welfare grabbing bodies. Nothing to worry about except higher taxes (someone has to make up the difference for those leaving)and lots more crime. Oh the joys of a Democratically run sanctuary city. Good Luck suckers.
I'm sure the high cost to have children and the high murder rate affected the overall population also! Chicago went to shit.
Keep voting Rham
Of course they are. But only the smart taxpaying ones. Nothing to worry about though because they are being replace by non taxpaying leeches.
TN is in danger. Way too many assholes from Chicago are moving there. I saw that WGN piece. It illustrated the problem perfectly. All wealthy libs from Lincoln Park and Wicker Park. W flags on porches, Northwestern sweatshirts on all the kids. They won’t assimilate, they’ll destroy. They’re also pushing the real estate values out of sight in metro Nashville. Next they are going to start voting in pushead lefty pols. Chicagoans could do to TN what Californians have done to CO.
Retired six years ago. I wanted to move to either Tennessee or Texas. My wife wanted to move to Florida. We are in Florida. Go figure. Although my family has been in Chicago at least since the 1860’s and many relatives still live there I very much wanted to leave. Moved away two years ago and don’t want to return even to visit. I used to love the city but grew to hate it. Very satisfied with our move.
I can't wait to retire and leave.........,
They closed most of the bars on the South Side. That's when people started to leave. Last call and the watering hole closes.
Can you imagine if they lifted residency :)
I would move to Indiana:D
They won't be happy until they rob every penny! They call us the penny state because old boy Lincoln is on the penny!
Crooked politicians are robbing our pennies!
That's just the beginning. Tri-annual property evaluations are coming out in Crook County for north Chicago. The Lakeview neighborhood will see on average a 32% increase in assessed value. The exodus will continue. Didn't we have something similar happen around 2007 with property values?
It’s plain and simple. If I wasnt getting mine on this job I would probably not live in the city. Get yours.
It made world news directly from the drudge report;
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/22/illinoisans-fleeing-state-taxes-financial-loss/
Illinoisans Fleeing State by Tens of Thousands over Taxes and Financial Loss
Excerpts:
Indeed, Chicago is unique in the U.S. for being the only major city that has consistently lost citizens over the last five years. The Tribune’s editorial board even published an editorial saying that it no longer makes any sense to live in Illinois.
Best-selling author Brad Thor, who calls himself an “economic refugee,” told WGN that he fled Chicago to stop “aiding and abetting” the city’s corruption.
“I was aiding and abetting a corrupt system in Illinois,” he said explaining why he moved to the Nashville, Tennessee, area. “We’d all had it,” he said of why he and others left Chicago.
* bingo Doug corruption the most corrupt city state in United States of America but yet the story left off the main reason many of us especially Chicago police officers and police throughout the state will tell you the violence is overwhelming maybe they were told to them or omit the violent part of the story but that is definitely a Huge factor in the story! The strange thing is the lemmings will vote in the same Democrats that have destroyed this city county and state they won’t do like good little pads and bottom right back in and the corruption will continue the bloodshed will be worse the morgue will have to add an addition due to all the violence.
Does the mayor the cook county board president Kimmy Tommy or any of the elect Democrats maybe the alderman stop by the homes stop by the funerals of the murdered innocent people? How about stopping by the hospitals of the people that of been stabbed shot how about the hospital where the 21-year-old kid from the suburbs was beaten brutally on Michigan Avenue by black offenders as the alderman stop by to visit the family? Have any of the elected stopped by and told the families how much they are doing to stop the violence? Of course not because they are scared they are cowards they are protected by massive amounts of police officers 24 hours a day seven days a week at their disposal for themselves and their families! Just wonder if there could be a massive lawsuit where is all the victims families could jump on and Sue every last one of the elected for not doing their jobs allowing them to live in peace and safety?
The main job of the elected officials is to protect the people that put them in office by all means necessary, our elected officials have done nothing but attack the police bastardize every police officer they can, the mayor has developed so many civilian agencies to attack the police to fire police officers and some of the police officers will lose their freedom and all the bank accounts and their family thanks to the corrupt system that is here where their motto is right is wrong and wrong is right from their democratic view points The main job of the elected officials is to protect the people that put them in office by all means necessary, our elected officials have done nothing but attack the police bastardize every police officer they can, the mayor has developed so many civilian agencies to attack the police to fire police officers and some of the police officers will lose their freedom and all their bank accounts and their family thanks to the corrupt system that is here where their motto is right is wrong and wrong is right from their democratic view points! God please bless the police please bless the innocent citizens that are stuck here or choose to stay here even though the odds are against them you never know if you’re going to return home without being a victim of violent crime please watch out for each other officers please back each other up no matter what it takes we are all we have!
Could you post up where you are going to what states are the best what cities are the best and how much is the cost of living in less than an Illinois especially in the city of Chicago? Also what are the crime rates where you were going to? With many of us getting old or how close are the hospitals?
Once I’m done with this job, I’m moving to Las Vegas area as a permanent resident!
Better overall weather, lower taxes, lower cost of living, lower priced housing, NO Nevada income taxes.
For those that would complain about hot summers, I will be a snowbird with my other paid off property in Western Illinois area!
I’m retired and don’t mind the scenic travel in my RV across this beautiful country!
Da Pelon
The soviets would wholesale relocate entire ethnicities they deemed problematic, and replace it with trusted reliable hacks. The dems seems to have adopted this tactic in Illinois: Drive out the productive population and replace it with illegals and the b@ysh!t crazy dem leftists never intend to leave. In effect, the politicians choose their voters over time.
Welcome to the sad state of Fellinois
Oops there goes another $100,000,000 tax dollars. No problem just fleece those taxpayers left. Here comes another round of tax and fee hikes. Can't let state go bankrupt can we? Why not, would be good way out of all the generous pension problems. Get out while the getting is good. Only things you might miss are good pizza and Italian Beefs. Portillo is expanding and with a little practice you can master pizza recipes. Sell high in Illinois and buy low almost anywhere else while you can. Bankruptcy will change that.
Stop talking about it and "just do it". Life outside the city and state is just great. Nicer class of people, lower taxes, good public schools, very little crime and much less government corruption. So what's keeping you?
As a whole those who vote in cook county and the city of Chicago are all morons . They vote for the same idiots that keep raising taxes fees and the cost of living here is skyrocketing why would you stay here? It’s time to vote everyone out
Retired CPD in Oklahoma says.....
Moved here in 2015, up in the mountains taxes $965 year for $250K house on 100 acres, small town living find anyone in elected office (county/town) working their farm, store and talk with them anytime. Crime, have some minor but report something stolen expect the chief and every police, sheriff will be on it and most curplits are rounded up before the week is out. Everyone carries out here open or CCW...everyone carries!
Surprised me most are how polite the kids (under 21) are. Wife had a flat, pick-up truck of school kids changed it for her, they help with loading bags a store, refuse any tips, always say Sir or Miss when addressing you. wear my CPD cap, always give you 10% off without asking, I cannot tell you how many meals been paid for me/wife when we eat out.
Yes, police or military treated in highest regards. Nearest neighbor two miles but they always bring wife, eggs, butter,etc. Go to town, hardware store or restaurants have retired guys drinking coffee offering advice hunting, where to get parts, help, or whatever you need.
What impressed me, seeing the county commissioner working (driving a road grader) with a road crew when a road washed out, the whole day not for a picture take either. Someone passes away, The Pastors / Preachers/ Priest go door to door for a collection to help the family, ask for help with the farm if needed...all the money going to the family. Not for vanity lic. plates or gun protest marching T-shirts.
Life is good outside Chicago and Crook County. What do I miss from Chicago...local neighborhood pizza! Not the downtown name crap.
My advice, move ...so much more out there. Makes me wish I would have started the department out here in 1971 rather then first day in the "Green".
Stay Safe.....
Stay Fetal....
Go Home......
And a big Fuck You to Rahm, you little Punk asshole.
If you go to OK, hit the testicle festival
https://www.travelok.com/listings/view.profile/id.19675
Retired and was looking at Florida. No state income tax and lower property taxes. However, FYI taxes are lower because most communities have associations and you are responsible for garbage pick-up, street and sewer maintenance, thereby increasing month condo fees.
So I broke it down. Currently pay 7000 property tax and live in Chicago suburbs, garbage and streets included, no state income on pension. In a condo community in Fl. pay 2200 in property tax(sounds good), but pay 2400 a year to master association, 1300 a quarter to condo assoc., plus 2000 a year hurricane insurance. Total 11,800.
I understand the frustration in Il. but do your numbers, the grass is not always greener.
Illinois’ Tax Freedom Day, the day upon which the state has earned enough income to pay off its federal, state, and local tax bills, will not come until April 29th, according to the nonpartisan Tax Foundation. Only three states had later Tax Freedom Days: Connecticut, New Jersey and New York.
Not one of Illinois’ neighboring states has a Tax Freedom Day later than April 19th this year. Indiana’s Tax Freedom Day fell on April 10th.
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-tax-freedom-day
Can't wait to retire and join the exodus
Lars Pilsen
Leaving within in the year. Eyeing up Tennessee. Never thought about Oklahoma. Might just have to start looking there also.
Add two more tax paying law abiding citizens leaving this shithole shortly.
If the pols think it is bad now, wait until the State of Illinois starts taxing pensions. It is not going to matter to retired government employees because government pensions will be taxed. The tsunami will occur in the private sector. Keep voting DEMOCRATIC
Only thing I'll miss is lake michigan water.
Chicago is booming. Not going to bust. Expensive condos, houses and luxury apartments being built left and right. What world are some of you people living in? I live in reality by the way.
We left in Feb. born a raised on the south side, but the writing is on the wall. Out of Chicago, Crook County and Illinois. Built a mew home twice the side of our home in Chicago on a 1/2 acre and the taxes are half. No alleys lined with dilapidated garages and filled with weeds and garbage. No wires hanging from tilted rotting utility poles, plastered with rat poison signs. And best of all, No Rahm and his corrupt political empire. Pulled those City stickers off the cars and had a city sticker burning party.
I wish I could move my pretty loft somewhere else.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Many leaving any suggestions on best place to go? Taxes? Crime rates? etc..
Then following Paul Vallas looks like his website is gone and his activity on twitter is fading, did he get a payoff and pull out quietly?
Still trying to convince the wife to put the house up for sale NOW, while it still has decent value, and go rent somewhere until I hit my 20. Then run! I’ll find something else, don’t care what at this point.
nonymous said...
Startling. Unfortunately Nashville, Austin and other booming cities don’t have the infrastructure in places e and they are growing in much the same manner as LA did in the 40s and 50s, creating traffic nightmares throughout. Still, it should serve as a wake up call to our asshole leaders like Rahm, Rauner and Madigan that time is running out.
5/23/2018 01:12:00 AM
Nashville might have a traffic problem but nothing like traffic in Chicago. I moved to Nashville area and reduced my cost of living by 30%. People are more friendly, a slower pace of life. Police, fire are respected and we are not afraid to fly a flag. The suburbs around Nashville have excellent schools. Larger house, bigger lot, low cost of gas and food. Love the country music.
When Fat Boy gets sworn as governor in January, that's the end.
The Madigan-Cullerton Democratic death spiral continues.
But when you look at the Rahm controlled local 'news' organizations, all that is trumpeted is 'tourists are flocking to Chicago by the millions or high-tech corporates are relocating to our safe downtown business area and flooding our real estate markets with bright, young techno-savvy couples eager to raise their families in this world-class environment...'
Rahm could care less about the real taxpayers leaving - just provides him more room to place his illegals here who dream of a 'city of free stuff.'
We’re heading to a red state this summer. I’m not going to worry about my kids getting mugged in the middle of the day coming home from school, the process to attend a half-decent indoctrination center disguised as a high school is insane, and we’re tired of paying a fortune in taxes to pandering dirtbags driving the city and state into a financial death spiral. Let the people who voted for this nonsense live with it all. God help the rest until they can get out.
-Lakeview Mom
If the "community" ever figured out that in 9 1/2's sanctuary city every single illegal immigrant child going to a Chicago Public School
takes over $10,000 away from a "community" child, they would vote these Demon-crat politicians OUT!
Or that every single illegal immigrant DOES get SNAP, housing assistance, free healthcare, free phones, free lawyers.....which takes money
from the same pot the "community" does......so there will be less and less for the "community".....and they now have ID's to VOTE!
Illinois politicians have held on to their spots by promising more and more to help the "community" but that has failed to happen....the
"community" has NOT improved their lifestyle one little bit....parents aren't parenting.their kids aren't graduating from high school, aren't going on to college, and with a 50% or less graduation rate, and only 6th grade abilities in reading, writing, math, language,
aren't getting decent jobs, and are being shot down in the street by thugs that these same politicians refuse to keep in jail, letting them loose on the "community" time and time again to create more mayhem.....with a shoot to kill mentality that equals WWll....
And that is the WHY of why all decent, LAW ABIDING, tax paying citizens are getting out of Illinois as soon as they can......because they know that POLICE are not the problem.
I hear many fellow people officers talk about how much longer they have until they move but rarely does the rubber meet the road.
Talk is cheap!
Left for AZ years ago. However, the Left of Lenin Illinois and California people are bringing their nonsense here. But I have a beautiful view of the Bradshaw Moutains, a quarter of the taxes, with no crime, yet. The Demorats are just as evil here but don’t have enough power. They are bringing in as many malcontents as they can while waving an American flag.
I grew up in Marquette Park, attended Lindblom HS (61) went to the U of I at Navy Pier for 2 years before transferring out. Got my draft notice in 1966 and was gone and never came back to live. I have lived in 6 different states since leaving. Went back home at least once a year to visit my parents and I literally watched Chicago devolve. When you are gone and come back you notice the change. My parents gave up in the 1990's and moved to a western suburb.
The old economic axiom holds true bad money drives good money out. Bad schools, political corruption, high taxes and rising crime will cause people to leave. The post from the person in Oklahoma is spot on. There are better places to live. I am on Florida's Emerald Coast aka Redneck Riviera/ LA (lower Alabama) for the past 35 years. Yes the summers are hot, the winters are mild, people are polite, no state income tax, property taxes are low, and criminals are prosecuted, not coddled.
Until the electorate of Chicago/Cook County/Illinois vote in change I don't see anything getting better for the area. Lots of luck in the future, you will need it.
I have 9 more years to get 50% of nothing. Might as well trade my house for an RV and live in the Dist parking lot.
Actually they probably could come up with an EXTRA 1000 if the put all the "secretaries" Asst. Secretaries, Asst. to the Asst. Secretaries, side pieces, bootlicks, lackys, chauffeurs, go-fers ans "pals" on the street. But probably not. Most would resign in pure terror of actually being asked to do the job they were hired for.
To the retired CPD in Oklahoma, it sounds great BUT, how are the locals attitudes towards minorities?
Ask a soon to be retiring black cop, I have to ask this question. I would love to relocate to a small town but some of those good ole boys have very very racist attitudes.
I left CPD recently.
If it wasn’t for my wife staying at her job here a few more years I’d be long gone already.
anybody know anything about holland, mi
Flip Wilson says "Cost of living going up. Chance of living going down."
More reason to leave did rahm get the old backdoor payoff:
Obama center foes decry ‘rubber-stamping’ as Chicago council OKs project
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/23/obama-center-foes-decry-rubber-stamping-as-chicago-council-oks-project.html
Rahm and Barry again screwing residents of Chicago, watch the slight of hand, Barry made rahm mayor and now rahm will give him billions in taxpayer dollars back in cost overruns the democratic way!
Retired revolver cop here. I live in a small town 50 miles north of Denver. The people are pro-police and love Trump. My house is valued at $ 350,000. Property taxes $ 1700 per year.
Good riddance Chicago.
Just watched the segment and it is interesting that they blame "politics". I don't know if these people they interviewed were too politically correct to admit that they are sick of paying all the high taxes that these legislators either pocket for themselves or use to bribe the low info voters with more government freebies. These transplants better wise up and support fiscal conservatives running the local government otherwise they will end up creating the same over-taxed crime ridden shit hole town that they just left.
Memphis, TN can hold it's own in all crime catagories.
Living in Chicago was like living in a prison. Still surprised anyone comes onto cpd.
I made my escape and never looked back. Other then reading the blog which only shows me how bad Chicago is.
Left when I hit 5 years.
retired a few years ago, moved to Indiana to be close to kids and grandkids.....next move.....either Texas or Florida.....or maybe Tennessee or Kentucky
Chicago is booming. Not going to bust. Expensive condos, houses and luxury apartments being built left and right. What world are some of you people living in? I live in reality by the way.
5/23/2018 08:31:00 AM
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The world of the middle class taxpayers who are leaving Chicago.
Retired 2 years ago, moved to southeast Tenn. Brought a 3500 sq ft house on 5 acres, paying 800 a year in taxes License plates for the truck are 29.00 a year. Figured I gave myself a 20,000 a year pay raise by not paying all the B.S. taxes. Leave as fast as you can.
Between the general shitty quality of life. Rdos cancelled for no reason and awful work conditions I pulled the plug. Funny thing was the two places that offered me a job both said the same, cpd is terrible and we know why you want to leave.
Anonymous said...
Retired and was looking at Florida. No state income tax and lower property taxes. However, FYI taxes are lower because most communities have associations and you are responsible for garbage pick-up, street and sewer maintenance, thereby increasing month condo fees.
So I broke it down. Currently pay 7000 property tax and live in Chicago suburbs, garbage and streets included, no state income on pension. In a condo community in Fl. pay 2200 in property tax(sounds good), but pay 2400 a year to master association, 1300 a quarter to condo assoc., plus 2000 a year hurricane insurance. Total 11,800.
I understand the frustration in Il. but do your numbers, the grass is not always greener.
5/23/2018 07:52:00 AM
In Tennessee, I pay $2,100 in property taxes, $40 month HOA fee. No state income tax. Property insurance, auto insurance is cheaper than Chicago. Gas is $2.50 gallon. Grass is greener, just need to do more research. BTW, very little crime.
Anonymous said...
Chicago is booming. Not going to bust. Expensive condos, houses and luxury apartments being built left and right. What world are some of you people living in? I live in reality by the way.
5/23/2018 08:31:00 AM
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Real estate guru strikes again. You gotta be the only moron on the blog peddling that nonsense. You’re like a bad 4am infomercial: “but wait, there’s more!”
Truth Be Told, Move Or Don't Move, For Family. I'm Still In Chicago, Because All My Immediate Family Lives and Works Here. I Have Seven Grand Children That I Try To Do Things With As Often As Possible. If I Moved To Another State, They Would Not Have The Time, Nor Resources To Visit. I Know Three Retiree's That Could Not Wait To Flee To Florida. Guess What ? They All Came Back For Family.
You Have To Decide What's Most Important For Your Individual Situation.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/23/chicago-police-protest-mayor-rahm-emanuel/
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Retired and was looking at Florida. No state income tax and lower property taxes. However, FYI taxes are lower because most communities have associations and you are responsible for garbage pick-up, street and sewer maintenance, thereby increasing month condo fees.
So I broke it down. Currently pay 7000 property tax and live in Chicago suburbs, garbage and streets included, no state income on pension. In a condo community in Fl. pay 2200 in property tax(sounds good), but pay 2400 a year to master association, 1300 a quarter to condo assoc., plus 2000 a year hurricane insurance. Total 11,800.
I understand the frustration in Il. but do your numbers, the grass is not always greener.
5/23/2018 07:52:00 AM
In Tennessee, I pay $2,100 in property taxes, $40 month HOA fee. No state income tax. Property insurance, auto insurance is cheaper than Chicago. Gas is $2.50 gallon. Grass is greener, just need to do more research. BTW, very little crime.
5/23/2018 07:01:00 PM
Plus you don't need to go to the dentist. Missing teeth are very fashionable down there.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the retired CPD in Oklahoma, it sounds great BUT, how are the locals attitudes towards minorities?
Ask a soon to be retiring black cop, I have to ask this question. I would love to relocate to a small town but some of those good ole boys have very very racist attitudes.
5/23/2018 01:34:00 PM
Not sure but the fact is none of these places are likely to ever accept you, minority or not. You are not like them. And they do not have very progressive attitudes. You will always be a Yankee or whatever.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I hear many fellow people officers talk about how much longer they have until they move but rarely does the rubber meet the road.
Talk is cheap!
5/23/2018 10:31:00 AM
The wives won't let them move away from the kids or grand kids.Lots of the ones who do move, move back in a couple of years.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Could you post up where you are going to what states are the best what cities are the best and how much is the cost of living in less than an Illinois especially in the city of Chicago? Also what are the crime rates where you were going to? With many of us getting old or how close are the hospitals?
5/23/2018 06:53:00 AM
You will not find the world-class university hospitals (three of them) in fucking Tennessee. That's for sure.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the retired CPD in Oklahoma, it sounds great BUT, how are the locals attitudes towards minorities?
Ask a soon to be retiring black cop, I have to ask this question. I would love to relocate to a small town but some of those good ole boys have very very racist attitudes.
5/23/2018 01:34:00 PM
Retired CPD in Oklahoma says.....
Any minority is very welcome here from all that I seen, Mostly Indians here like 60 % + ...what they like are working respectable Americans. People who look out and help each other, no black areas, white areas, Indian areas...everyone lives together. Met an older Black man Cal who is a retired Oklahoma State Trooper who been a new friend here since day two, introduced me to to many locals who were more then happy to met a retired CPD. My first month here a group of kids, under 20 were hunting on my land which the former owner let them. All were polite, mixed group, Indians, blacks, white when told I was the new owner first thing they asked if they can help out with anything. Also welcoming me to Oklahoma.
Expect to find new friends, of all walks of life here. The good ol boy crap you see on TV,...is not here. Give Oklahoma a chance, low taxes, property...hell find any type of house on acres of land super cheap, and very friendly people.
Look pass Tulsa and Oklahoma City, unless you want small city living...nice places also like small burbs in Chicago, but look at the small towns, east side of the state. Be surprised at how many ex police from other states, retired military also.
Born on the south side never thought I would even visit Oklahoma,...now,..I'll never leave here. Look at house and property on the net, take a weekend trip. Be more then happy to take in any CPD for a weekend and show them the area.
Stay safe my blue brothers and sisters,....this is going be a long hot summer in the big city Chicago.
Not sure but the fact is none of these places are likely to ever accept you, minority or not. You are not like them. And they do not have very progressive attitudes. You will always be a Yankee or whatever.
5/23/2018 11:08:00 PM
You should have just stopped after your first two words.....they covered the value of your opinion completely......
Anonymous said...
Truth Be Told, Move Or Don't Move, For Family. I'm Still In Chicago, Because All My Immediate Family Lives and Works Here. I Have Seven Grand Children That I Try To Do Things With As Often As Possible. If I Moved To Another State, They Would Not Have The Time, Nor Resources To Visit. I Know Three Retiree's That Could Not Wait To Flee To Florida. Guess What ? They All Came Back For Family.
You Have To Decide What's Most Important For Your Individual Situation.
5/23/2018 10:10:00 PM
So true! I’m in same boat not moving from family!
If ,when you move please leave the Chicago Values behind. It's nice here and we don't need a bunch of people who need everything done for them. There is a reason taxes are low, you won't find the services that you are used to. You might even have to haul your own garbage to the dump. Only volunteer Fire Department that by the time they arrive your house maybe gone. The local Sheriff has 3 deputies and are 1/2 hour away however that might be better service than in Chicago. People take care of themselves here so don't expect city services to solve all your problems. This is how it is in the country, the city living is different more like what you are used to. There is no shortage of democratic voters and illegals. It is up to you to decide where you fir in.
"You will not find the world-class university hospitals (three of them) in fucking Tennessee"
Yeah, because Vanderbilt isn't one? Good god Rahm, get off the blog!
And hey, let's be honest, Vandy doesn't serve an area nearly as big as Chicago, and doesn't have as many dindu nuffins getting shot at any and all hours of the day. Have you heard what people are saying about NU and U of C trauma centers right now?
Plus you don't need to go to the dentist. Missing teeth are very fashionable down there.
5/23/2018 11:03:00 PM
What, first it's Genius Real Estate Copper.....now it's My Cousin's a Dentist Copper?
Where's Richie Scotchbreath when ya need him?????
I’m an account and most of the people on here are 💯 right. A lot of taxpayers are leaving because between the property taxes, state income tax and sales tax (that’s only 3, we have much much more) you are easily paying over 50% ofyour incone to pay this corrupt machine we call Illinois. Then our politicians turn around and give free handouts to lazy leaches. Why? For more votes and insuring we stay democratic. They keep this shit up, all good productive members of society will leave. Let’s see the criminals and well fair recipients save the state.
Retired six years ago. I wanted to move to either Tennessee or Texas. My wife wanted to move to Florida. We are in Florida.
Same here. Retired in 2017. Moved to Texas. Oldest daughter and her family are here, so now so are we. Moved to the Dallas - Fort Worth area. VERY different. Talk about culture shock! They are pro police and pro military down here. Property taxes are about the same (where we are) compared to Chicago, BUT the other taxes are far better. Here grocery, Prescription and non-prescription drugs are tax exempt compared to Chicago ( groceries 4.75 and prescription and non-prescription drugs 3.75 EACH). It's not even summer and the daily temps have been in the 90's. So we either spend time in the pool or in the screen porch with the fans running. As far as the house is concerned, we intended to downsize but ended up with a house twice the size at half the cost.
And the best part......it's NOT CHICAGO!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the retired CPD in Oklahoma, it sounds great BUT, how are the locals attitudes towards minorities?
Ask a soon to be retiring black cop, I have to ask this question. I would love to relocate to a small town but some of those good ole boys have very very racist attitudes.
5/23/2018 01:34:00 PM
Retired CPD in Oklahoma says.....
Any minority is very welcome here from all that I seen.
Retired and waiting for my wife to finish up said...
Same in middle Tennessee just south of Nashville. You have been brainwashed by the lefts propaganda that the Klan rides at night and blacks are still lynched.
I am still in Chicago but bought a home near Franklin Tn. and am out in a year.I have a 20 minute drive if I need to go to Nashville. My down south neighbors don't care about anything except how you conduct yourself.Mow your lawn,keep the kids/grand kids in line and get used to people smiling, holding the door for you at the store and getting called sir by young people.People down here pride themselves on their manners and judge you by yours.
The left has painted people outside of big cities as evil racists, nothing could be farther from the truth. Don't buy in to the bullshit Officer,you see more racist people in the big city than you will ever see away from it.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
Could you post up where you are going to what states are the best what cities are the best and how much is the cost of living in less than an Illinois especially in the city of Chicago? Also what are the crime rates where you were going to? With many of us getting old or how close are the hospitals?
Hospitals and healthcare are a huge concern when you retire. You better have good access
Don't leave and move to Texas. The weather there is hotter than the hinges of hell almost year round. It is full of bugs, snakes and other unfriendly critters, and they are being invaded along their southern border.
What's wrong with Texas? Sure it's hot. All this week it's been in the 90's. Our answer to that.......swim in our in ground pool and hang out in the screened in gazebo complete with ceiling fan and bar. As far as the unfriendly critters, better the four legged than two. And best of all, the cost of living is much lower and the people are friendly.
And the invasion? They may be coming across our boarder, but thankfully they don't stay since they seek more liberal friendly areas.......like Chicago!
Could you post up where you are going to what states are the best what cities are the best and how much is the cost of living in less than an Illinois especially in the city of Chicago? Also what are the crime rates where you were going to? With many of us getting old or how close are the hospitals?
Gee, you want anything else?
I looked all that info up before I retired, so can you.
Anonymous said...
Chicago is booming. Not going to bust. Expensive condos, houses and luxury apartments being built left and right. What world are some of you people living in? I live in reality by the way.
5/23/2018 08:31:00 AM
Real estate guru strikes again. You gotta be the only moron on the blog peddling that nonsense. You’re like a bad 4am infomercial: “but wait, there’s more!”
5/23/2018 09:22:00 PM
Is there a photoshop Jedi Master in the house?
I'm picturing a blue cowl with a Sears Tower emblem (yes, I still call it that), a blue bodysuit with white gauntlets and boots, and a knee length cape patterned after the City flag. He isn't the hero that we deserve, just the hero that we need . . .
Dun-dun-DAHHHH!!
Captain RE/MAX is here to fight for half-truth, restorative justice and the Chicago Way!
3.Tjhey are leaving this cesspool because of crime. Then crime causes everything to rise then they leave because a smaller amount of tax payers are still supporting the services for a larger amount of citizens. Then things are too expensive to stay here. However, they did report tourism was up, maybe. Or is that lies such as crime is going down?
Real Estate Guy touts values of Medical/Dental care in Chicago as opposed to Nashville. Stuck in Chicago due to career, I tout values of plastic surgeons in Nashville. Have you ever been there and seen these broads? I don't care if it's plastic or not, they got perfect bods! Whoop-whoop!
Real Estate guy is a lot like Rahm, cheerleading because he knows his racket is up.
He still hasn't answered by question about Garfield Park real estate, either. I mean, downtown is bursting at the seams, right? If so, that would mean new, hot areas adjacent to downtown outside of the Wicker Parks, River Norths and Lincoln Parks would be feeling the effects.
Newsflash, REALTOR champ, even north side agents who were weighing in on the reassessment notices people received this week were commenting that they've seen a downward, sluggish trend as it relates to prices in relation to lack of supply. You should know this, but either you don't, because you're stupid, or you're living in denial (because you're like Rahm).
Take your 55.1 Million tourists claim and shove it up your ass, champ.
Real estate guru is right. Chicago is booming 🔫🔫🔫.😉
I did a Google search on the population of Chicago and found it at 3.5Mil in the mid 60's and it is 2.7Mil now. I don't remember much coverage about the loss of about 1Mil people from 1965 to 2018. And in the same period CPS went from 880,000 to less than 400,000 now. It seems to me that is a big deal, not this paltry 3,000 something as GN reported. And to the cop turned realtor, keep whistling a happy tune. Certain areas will be desirable but the cost and crime and corruption will eventually kill your golden egg dude.
Real estate guru is right. Chicago is booming ������.��
5/24/2018 08:24:00 PM
The Get Rich Quick scheming mentality infests itself wherever it can.
Greed + Sloth = Minimize Effort and Maximize Gain
It's the basic urge of all gamblers, crooks, cheaters, thieves, grifters and the like, who shun the very thought of an honest day's work.
Thus, the "real estate" hustle is all about turnover.
Same thing for the "stock market" hustle, (buy low/sell high), which is not honest investing in conservative, productive and benficial ventures.
This lazy avarice is the cause of much economic distress in every society it's infection flourishes. Which is every society that has ever existed.
The wisdom of "You can't cheat an honest man" & "There's a sucker born every minute" has, and will, always be disregarded by some.
Those "some" are the marks.
The Purity of the Equalizer, which is Death, is, thusly, also ignored by the hustlers.
Until that time, Eustis, until that time........
5/23/2018 09:22:00 PM
Is there a photoshop Jedi Master in the house?
I'm picturing a blue cowl with a Sears Tower emblem (yes, I still call it that), a blue bodysuit with white gauntlets and boots, and a knee length cape patterned after the City flag. He isn't the hero that we deserve, just the hero that we need . . .
Dun-dun-DAHHHH!!
Captain RE/MAX is here to fight for half-truth, restorative justice and the Chicago Way!
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Hilarious. The real estate guru, Captain REMAX, will be armed with a price gun (like that ho Flo, from progressive) and wearing a racoon eyemask like his dear leader, Rahm Emmanuel.
Retired CPD in Oklahoma says.....
Any minority is very welcome here from all that I seen, Mostly Indians here like 60 % + ...what they like are working respectable Americans. People who look out and help each other, no black areas, white areas, Indian areas...everyone lives together. Met an older Black man Cal who is a retired Oklahoma State Trooper who been a new friend here since day two, introduced me to to many locals who were more then happy to met a retired CPD. My first month here a group of kids, under 20 were hunting on my land which the former owner let them. All were polite, mixed group, Indians, blacks, white when told I was the new owner first thing they asked if they can help out with anything. Also welcoming me to Oklahoma.
Expect to find new friends, of all walks of life here. The good ol boy crap you see on TV,...is not here. Give Oklahoma a chance, low taxes, property...hell find any type of house on acres of land super cheap, and very friendly people.
Look pass Tulsa and Oklahoma City, unless you want small city living...nice places also like small burbs in Chicago, but look at the small towns, east side of the state. Be surprised at how many ex police from other states, retired military also.
Born on the south side never thought I would even visit Oklahoma,...now,..I'll never leave here. Look at house and property on the net, take a weekend trip. Be more then happy to take in any CPD for a weekend and show them the area.
Stay safe my blue brothers and sisters,....this is going be a long hot summer in the big city Chicago.
-----This comment is EXACTLY CORRECT in reference to race relations outside of chicago. People that have spent most of their lives in Chicago have been brainwashed in thinking the whole country is racist . Living in Texas while in the military, I experienced nothing but racial integration. Inter-racial couples were the norm. Yes "good ole boys" exist just like militant white haters exist. The difference is that people do not make such a big deal about skin color outside liberal chicago. Having traveled quite a bit, chicago and most major cities are the epitome of racial segregation. Of course ran by democrats that rely on the victim hood vote. Remember what L. Johnson said about blacks? Anyway, get out, spend some time outside of Illinois and any other major city. Life is much better in the south.
Chicago is booming. Not going to bust. Expensive condos, houses and luxury apartments being built left and right. What world are some of you people living in? I live in reality by the way.
You can't be the police and say that honestly. Can you?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Chicago is booming. Not going to bust. Expensive condos, houses and luxury apartments being built left and right. What world are some of you people living in? I live in reality by the way.
You can't be the police and say that honestly. Can you?
5/25/2018 08:22:00 PM
Yes he can. You are the one who has to get out of the basement and see what’s happening. 8 new hotels going up this year downtown. Near north has condos going up like crazy. Plans for 2 new towers.
"Chicago is booming. Not going to bust. Expensive condos, houses and luxury apartments being built left and right." Exactly! So why are property taxes and other fees constantly going up? If the tax base is getting bigger, property taxes should actually be going down. Look at Rosemont. They're raking in the dough with their business and convention centers. They then pass the savings on to their residents in the form of property tax reductions.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Chicago is booming. Not going to bust. Expensive condos, houses and luxury apartments being built left and right. What world are some of you people living in? I live in reality by the way.
You can't be the police and say that honestly. Can you?
5/25/2018 08:22:00 PM
Yes he can. You are the one who has to get out of the basement and see what’s happening. 8 new hotels going up this year downtown. Near north has condos going up like crazy. Plans for 2 new towers.
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Hilarious. Real estate guru responds to criticism by pretending to be another poster: “yes he can...”. “He” also being the real estate guru. Moron
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