Detectives Detailed?
So the clearance rate for homicides hovers around 14%. Shootings a tiny bit better. Property crime investigations are suspended on a regular basis due to inadequate evidence collection/processing.
The Department just made something like 110 detectives who are rushing to the Areas to solve crimes. Wait. They're not? They're being detailed to the streets, beaches, downtown, in uniform, until after the Fourth of July?
Is this a grievance? After all, these detectives are merely detailed to the Academy for training. Their Unit of Assignment is still where they came from. In many cases, some of these officers had twenty or more years, yet here they are being re-detailed from Units of Assignment, in many cases with days off being adjusted, for what should be a reverse seniority situation.
And remember....we're not shorthanded.
The Department just made something like 110 detectives who are rushing to the Areas to solve crimes. Wait. They're not? They're being detailed to the streets, beaches, downtown, in uniform, until after the Fourth of July?
Is this a grievance? After all, these detectives are merely detailed to the Academy for training. Their Unit of Assignment is still where they came from. In many cases, some of these officers had twenty or more years, yet here they are being re-detailed from Units of Assignment, in many cases with days off being adjusted, for what should be a reverse seniority situation.
And remember....we're not shorthanded.
Labels: dumb ideas, FOP
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
69 Comments:
I heard Class Action Grievance filed already. Department will rather spend the money for an arbitration and detectives will be awarded a few hours compensation four years from now.
They are not detectives yet.
As of this past Sunday we were officially assigned to one of the Areas, no longer our units. Days off adjusted, working the weekends and the 4th, one possibly 2 days being OT. We report for duty to Area starting the 10th. They have 8 of us on most corners along Mich Ave in 018,
They are going where they are needed. Without coppers on the streets the Fourth could turn into a blood bath. Bad optics of Rahm.
Um....yes it is a grievance for a contract violation. They are in training for their unit. If they cancel training you by go back to their units. They should already be being canceled on any weekend days offs they have or if forced to take the 4th off should be back in thier unit of assignment that day. But....no one will grieve it and the union will say but they are being promoted. And not worry about the contract.
Is this a grievance? After all, these detectives are merely detailed to the Academy for training. Their Unit of Assignment is still where they came from. In many cases, some of these officers had twenty or more years, yet here they are being re-detailed from Units of Assignment, in many cases with days off being adjusted, for what should be a reverse seniority situation.
And remember....we're not shorthanded.
Labels: dumb ideas, FOP
This shit has been going on for years, grieved it and it went nowhere much like the present clearance rate...
This is their strategy? NUTS!
Voters need to vote these nonleaders out!
Actually, they were assigned to their units on Sunday. So yes, should have been reverse seniority. But our FOP suckas and won't do anything about it.
A little late on this one. My friend who is not a new detective along with his partner are detailed to this scam and have been for weeks due to low senority but not bottom of the bucket in the area ???
Chicago Police are DANGEROUSLY understaffed under the Failure Emmanuel. He obviously doesn't care about Chicagoans.
He ONLY CARES about ILLEGAL ALIENS.
Anybody BUT Emmanuel.
Anybody BUT Emmanuel.
Anybody BUT Emmanuel.
Over 28,000 shot since Emmanuel became Mayor.
He has NO STRATEGY how to keep Chicago safe.
He is COMPLETELY UNQUALIFIED to LEAD.
No one can get time off. This sucks. Good thing I don't do anything. Stay Fetal. (We're still saying that, right?)
just another " Haha, Fuck-you Suckers." from the mayor and kidney eddie....
Nope, no grievance.
Interesting grievance.
I can't wait for that one asshole to say "It's not a promotion just an assignment" . They are police officers assigned as detectives. Or "they should be in uniform always in a marked car" ASSHAT! Look at my end of year gross pay and tell me it's not a promotion dude.
Off topic;
Key decision awaits Officer Van Dyke as judge pushes for summer trial: Bench or jury?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/laquanmcdonald/ct-met-laquan-mcdonald-jason-van-dyke-jury-bench-trial-20180624-story.html
Does anyone in their right mind think that if a jury trial is chosen that this will be fair and the most corrupt county in the United States of America the most corrupt city in United States of America? They’re talking about a change of venue they should’ve already been granted it’s going to be very hard if they choose a jury trial to find somebody anyone that is not already known about this case which the dishonest media put out constantly 24 hours a day seven days a week painting the police officer in the worst light as they always do. It would’ve been nice if the Chicago police Exempt rank would’ve stopped by their original decision which was correct that the shooting was justified which it was, changing your mind on a case like this due to political expediency brought all of this.
If you are a police officer and you are reading this which many are for your own good please think about your families think about everything when you get involved in any situation like this proactive policing is totally gone the only thing that should be proactive is the acne cream you have to put on your face other than that protect each other protect yourself, protect your assets protect your family God bless the police
same with summer mobile. what does the city expect to get out of detectives being forced off their watches, out of their DOG with no weekend RDOs? Are you telling me they couldnt find another 20 fresh faces from the districts?
Downtown must be looking at them like PPO’s and think they can do whatever they want with them. They’ll grieve it and probably get something down the road. It’s just another example of 35th Street scrambling to do something and not having a clue how to problem solve. And hey Rahm has put “1,000 new officers on the street.” Not!
Is it summer mobile what a joke hit the medical fuck them
The FOP will say that unless ALL of them grieve this then they will not fight a grievance. Why FOP?
Why does everyone have to file a grievance?
Aren't you supposed to represent all officers?
Do you feel it's not worth your useless time?
You represent all, fight for all.
It is an officer's right to file a grievance, whether all file or one files.
They cancelled all RDO’s in OCD from June 29 - July 8
This idea was developed by Tony Riccio and Eddie Johnson.
No Grievance just griping.
New Dets fresh off Academy IST are at the whim of Area Management for the rest of 2018.
Whether you have 3 yrs or 20 on. New to the Unit blues.
The only thing you keep is your Furlogh seniority on the Roster.
Mgmt. assigns your Watch and Assignments like anywhere else.
That 6-8 week Area Training period when you get to try PC-VC-SVU and then if needed, all the special details, then for the rest of the year after you get a more permanent division, they farm out by unit seniority...unless you’re skilled, versed, juiced and important.
These preplanned low IQ HQ contingent plans pull from all over.
Lowest on the totem pole always applies.
Anyone know if more Dets are detailed than the embedded HQ house mice?
That’s how they do it in the D...how is it in the elite Special Units?
Guess the question really is - why is it necessary to deplete the D Unit?
Because Rahm and Jugghead continue lie about manpower and continue to deny there’s a serious culture of crime that’s beyond out of control.
Nope. Not shorthanded at all.
Rahm and FatHeadEd have hurt their shoulders patting themselves on the back while lying to the lapdog media about adding 1,000 officers to CPD.
Wake up Sheeple! Hold these idiots accountable.
14% clearance rate, they are more useful directing traffic, not flaming not their fault completely but traffic control is needed,and maybe they could patrol for the summer downtown!
snitches get...
wait for it...
shot.
Someone has to be there to greet the chicago value honor wilding student at the water tower.
Anonymous said...
As of this past Sunday we were officially assigned to one of the Areas, no longer our units. Days off adjusted, working the weekends and the 4th, one possibly 2 days being OT. We report for duty to Area starting the 10th. They have 8 of us on most corners along Mich Ave in 018,
6/27/2018 12:30:00 AM
Nice at least downtown will be protected, the if they get away a 13% clearance rate they will not be caught, better your on the corners catching them now right?
There still the fucking police. Its one week while in training. More cops on the street may ease the case load. In theory, ha, but reality is there just there to babysit kids wildn.
Then vote for Paul Vallas! He has common sense
More bodies on the street who have adopted the fetal state of mind won’t do much to contribute to the carnage that will ensue. The hood will continue to kill shoot and kill each other while injuring and killing the innocent. But remember the Poleece are the problem.
I remember reading the disclaimer on the notification to attend training that they may be needed to work during their training and must be equipped and ready at a moments notice.
Detectives are still P/O’s only assigned as detectives. See you on the beat.
How doI cancel my union dues.
You miss the obvious reason for the low clearance rates. The department scraped the bottom of the barrel for years pulling off that old detectives list. So what you have is a division filled with low scoring mostly incompetent detectives.
so what? you still effectively get paid by the hour, and as detectives you get paid more whether you do detective work or not.
What is with the drama in Area Central? Too many Lt.’s running around creating more dissension and anymosity! Now the Sgts have a target on their backs! That’s what happens when the Areas get saturated with merit asswipes that were NEVER detectives or yes men that did a hot minute as a detective and are now expected to motivate veteran detectives. Keep dreaming assholes.
How about no police for a week, Rahm?
Just as bad as putting detectives on summer mobile. Waste of resources.
This is their strategy? NUTS!
Voters need to vote these nonleaders out!
6/27/2018 03:59:00 AM
Exactly. Detail 'em to the 19th Ward Space Force.
Anybody BUT Emmanuel.
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be careful what you wish for.
Anonymous said...
I can't wait for that one asshole to say "It's not a promotion just an assignment" . They are police officers assigned as detectives. Or "they should be in uniform always in a marked car" ASSHAT! Look at my end of year gross pay and tell me it's not a promotion dude.
6/27/2018 06:55:00 AM
That is like saying the myriad of "Security specialist" on the mayors detail, who make sergeants pay and will get that sergeants pension were not assigned which they are, if they get demoted and don't have enough time in grade and closed to retirement they revert back to patrolman rank. Detective this is the same thing they can do to you, so be happy is that a redlight? Crosswalk ok?
I can't wait for that one asshole to say "It's not a promotion just an assignment" . They are police officers assigned as detectives. Or "they should be in uniform always in a marked car" ASSHAT! Look at my end of year gross pay and tell me it's not a promotion dude.
6/27/2018 06:55:00 AM
Ok . It's an assignment with extra overtime. You're special because your mommy says so dude.
Anonymous said...
Detectives are still P/O’s only assigned as detectives. See you on the beat.
6/27/2018 10:11:00 AM
Until you mess up your job then the first person you look to (or blame) is the Detective. Yes I'm still a blue shirt and proud of it.
SO if they aint dicks yet then they would have seniority based on the district the came from.
ANOTHER great move by special ED staff who did not even ask him to do this.
SPECIAL has been avoiding day to day at the office by going to IMPORTANT meeting with dignitaries. YOU know PHLEGER,CORP COUNCIL, and RAHM's script writers.
DONT worry the AREA will survive without these brand new dicks. TIME for them to learn how to put in a grievance since many of them did not come from actual beat cars.
FAIR SHARE rules wait till the ass hats start not wanting to pay FOP DUES!
IF they had balls they would hit the medical!
A hangover is an illness....
NO checks after 9pm
call district for grocery shopping if you leave
What's the difference where their detailed to most can't handle a domestic properly let alone solve a homicide Should need 10 years on job to be a detective and at least 10 to be a sargent All the college in the world does not help you do this job Common sense is what's needed and this department is severely lacking that
How doI cancel my union dues.
Great, then you can be the first one assigned to 12 hour days. No union, no bargaining for you. Oh and no uniform or duty availability.
These new detectives will do more good on the corner Most do not know how to solve anything The promotion process is a joke
The clout baby merit scum and all the new detectives, sergeants , lieutenants need to be on the street babysitting Rahm’s kids so the 4th doesn’t become a bloodbath. I live downtown and spending the time next week in my private pool and party room guarded by a doorman thanks to this pos mayor and my ahole alderman Sophia king and horseshit district 001 commander Pigott, Burke’s boy. It’s unsafe anywhere in the south loop and I carry. Rahm must pander to the animals or he has no chance of being elected. And he knows it. He is solely responsible for Chicago’s crime. He is infinitely more into illegal criminals than the working taxpayers of Chicago.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The FOP will say that unless ALL of them grieve this then they will not fight a grievance. Why FOP?
Why does everyone have to file a grievance?
Aren't you supposed to represent all officers?
Do you feel it's not worth your useless time?
You represent all, fight for all.
It is an officer's right to file a grievance, whether all file or one files.
6/27/2018 07:28:00 AM
I believe the FOP feels they can’t file a grievance for ever P.O. that has a problem. Grievances costs the FOP money and manpower
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Downtown must be looking at them like PPO’s and think they can do whatever they want with them. They’ll grieve it and probably get something down the road. It’s just another example of 35th Street scrambling to do something and not having a clue how to problem solve. And hey Rahm has put “1,000 new officers on the street.” Not!
6/27/2018 07:26:00 AM
Most of the 1,000 are recruits in the academy, recruits on their 3 cycles or PPO’s so you can’t do much with them. Plenty of po’s inside that are still getting do’s and no details. Numbers aren’t as bad as you think, it’s were they are assigned and what their duties are
Last place the is staffed is the beat car
Wrong again. They are in training.. getting sworn in as detectives THEN getting sent on the downtown detail. They begin the detail on Saturday. They get sworn in this Friday.
Father Phleger needs to realize that certain people need to learn how to help themselves and take responsibility for the lives and actions. Keep up the good fight Father. You need all the help you can get.
At least on the corners directing traffic you will be accountable for your hours, no early ducks why not keep detectives in uniform in marked cars helps them and helps the amount of beat cars on the street! With a 14% clearance rate why not? They could also start answering calls since we are always in a rap!
Im sure you can find something interesting to do on Michigan Ave for a few days.
If any of the Dets out there are contemplating a move to the JISC my sincere recommendation is DON'T DO IT!!! The commander is a total goof and there is so much in-fighting among the supervisors that the JISC is no longer a decent place to work. Most of the Dets are competent hard working dudes, but some can't help but bitch and moan while taking notes on what perks the next guy may be getting or not getting over them and tattling to the sgt...petty shit! The civilian social service agency that works on the third floor of the building pushes their agenda of being able to save even the most deviate repeat offenders and the commander is completely on board with this bullshit. Dets are instructed to assign felony offenses to the program thus avoiding sending these kid criminals to court. The unit is totally understaffed (as is every other unit) especially with the addition of three more districts which brings the tally up to ten districts that bring their juvenile arrests to this building. You are always under the microscope with newly installed cameras in every room and hallway that will serve as the evidence to hang you when you're forced to deal with some unruly kid who refuses to enter the holding cell. Even with the ten hour days, all other perks are gone! Unless you're a south sider who may live ten minutes away and simply wants the convenience of being close to home, the area is still a better place to be trust me.
Just my two cents...newly retired and not missing the bullshit.
What's the difference where their detailed to most can't handle a domestic properly let alone solve a homicide Should need 10 years on job to be a detective and at least 10 to be a sargent All the college in the world does not help you do this job Common sense is what's needed and this department is severely lacking that
6/27/2018 06:35:00 PM
10yrs on the job? Maybe you should have to have basic spelling skills and have to know how to spell SERGEANT to post on the blog. HaHaHa
At least on the corners directing traffic you will be accountable for your hours, no early ducks why not keep detectives in uniform in marked cars helps them and helps the amount of beat cars on the street! With a 14% clearance rate why not? They could also start answering calls since we are always in a rap!
6/27/2018 09:16:00 PM
Because detectives should be doing the job of detectives, not the job of beat cops. Your idea should be applied to the gang and tact teams though. I can't think of a reason they shouldn't all be disbanded and added to the shorthanded districts and watches.
I can't wait for that one asshole to say "It's not a promotion just an assignment" . They are police officers assigned as detectives. Or "they should be in uniform always in a marked car" ASSHAT! Look at my end of year gross pay and tell me it's not a promotion dude.
Hahaha.......
See above comments! Told ya!
Anonymous said...
You miss the obvious reason for the low clearance rates. The department scraped the bottom of the barrel for years pulling off that old detectives list. So what you have is a division filled with low scoring mostly incompetent detectives.
6/27/2018 10:49:00 AM
Yeah, they got to a whole 400 off that list over a 12 year time period. That’s really scraping the bottom of the barrel getting all the way down to 400! Now go get your shine box.
What's the difference where their detailed to most can't handle a domestic properly let alone solve a homicide Should need 10 years on job to be a detective and at least 10 to be a sargent All the college in the world does not help you do this job Common sense is what's needed and this department is severely lacking that
6/27/2018 06:35:00 PM
Your spelling, grammar, and punctuation could all use some work. You basically killed your anti-college argument with your complete lack of English language writing skills. Well, you actually should've learned all that way before college, but I'll assume you went to Chicago public schools, so maybe they didn't get around to that part of the curriculum.
Those funny little dots and squiggles above are called punctuation. <---- That's a period, and so is this.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How doI cancel my union dues.
Great, then you can be the first one assigned to 12 hour days. No union, no bargaining for you. Oh and no uniform or duty availability.
6/27/2018 06:35:00 PM
Don't forget legal defense and grievances.
6/27/2018 10:38:00 PM
Anonymous said...
What's the difference where their detailed to most can't handle a domestic properly let alone solve a homicide Should need 10 years on job to be a detective and at least 10 to be a sargent All the college in the world does not help you do this job Common sense is what's needed and this department is severely lacking that
6/27/2018 06:35:00 PM
10yrs on the job? Maybe you should have to have basic spelling skills and have to know how to spell SERGEANT to post on the blog. HaHaHa
6/27/2018 11:07:00 PM
NOW we all know, that when you gots the clout all you gots to do is take the test then ask (mommy, daddy, aunt, uncle technicolored reverend,,,etc..etc..etc,,) aka clout, to put in the good word for you and presto you be a Det., Sgt., Lt. with just 2 years on the job. And yes, you 5 year wonders at Area North (Hollywood) know who you are
Father Phleger needs to realize that certain people need to learn how to help themselves and take responsibility for the lives and actions. Keep up the good fight Father. You need all the help you can get.
6/27/2018 08:06:00 PM
You are on the wrong blog. Go to EyeluvphlegercuzImatotaldope.blogspot.com
NOW we all know, that when you gots the clout all you gots to do is take the test then ask (mommy, daddy, aunt, uncle technicolored reverend,,,etc..etc..etc,,) aka clout, to put in the good word for you and presto you be a Det., Sgt., Lt. with just 2 years on the job. And yes, you 5 year wonders at Area North (Hollywood) know who you are
6/28/2018 02:54:00 PM
Ahhh, now it makes sense. You took the test, Bernstein, failed and now you need someone to blame. Then, you proceed to abbreviate the ranks because you can't spell..
Did clout babies make it to A/N? Sure, Won't deny that! But at least I can admit that. Time you admit to being a failure and stop pushing the blame somewhere else. You failed cause of you, and they got A/N cause of their clout. Boo fucking hoo! Man up bitch boy! Only people who can hate on them are those who actually PASSED the test and didn't get A/N
6/28/2018 09:05:00 PM
Anonymous said...
NOW we all know, that when you gots the clout all you gots to do is take the test then ask (mommy, daddy, aunt, uncle technicolored reverend,,,etc..etc..etc,,) aka clout, to put in the good word for you and presto you be a Det., Sgt., Lt. with just 2 years on the job. And yes, you 5 year wonders at Area North (Hollywood) know who you are
6/28/2018 02:54:00 PM
Ahhh, now it makes sense. You took the test, Bernstein, failed and now you need someone to blame. Then, you proceed to abbreviate the ranks because you can't spell..
Not really snowflake. Been in the "D" unit (that's short for detective) since 1998. Did not take any special classes from Bernstein. Just took the test and passed.
And you must be one of those clout babies in Area North which is why you're so sore ! hahahaha
Ahhh, now it makes sense. You took the test, Bernstein, failed and now you need someone to blame. Then, you proceed to abbreviate the ranks because you can't spell..
Did clout babies make it to A/N? Sure, Won't deny that! But at least I can admit that. Time you admit to being a failure and stop pushing the blame somewhere else. You failed cause of you, and they got A/N cause of their clout. Boo fucking hoo! Man up bitch boy! Only people who can hate on them are those who actually PASSED the test and didn't get A/N
6/28/2018 10:24:00 PM
The above 2 comments must be from the offspring of a boss. Someone who always got do nothing spots, week-ends off and then due to a miracle made Detective, sergeant, etc,,, on the 1st try via merit. SO now you be a hater when you hear anyone complain about you do-nothings who talk about your 1 day in the ghetto and how you don't know how your name was a merit pick. And yes, I did actually pass the test to make detective, but never had the phone call, clout or family member in a supervisor position to get me in Hollywood area
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