What Took So Long?
- The deaths of a husband and wife, both 90, whose West Garfield Park apartment burned in February, have been ruled homicides, officials announced this week.
Aldonia White, a returned [do they mean retired? - SCC] nurse, died of multiple blunt force injuries from an assault with a contributing cause of death listed as heart disease, the Cook County medical examiner’s office said Friday.
Her husband, Lewis White, a veteran, died of inhalation of products of combustion due to an apartment fire with heart disease also a contributing cause. Both deaths were ruled homicides, the office said.
The fatal blaze on the second floor of a two-flat in the 4000 block of West Wilcox Street appeared to have erupted in more than one place, Chicago Fire Department spokesman Larry Langford said at the time of the blaze, which started about 3:10 a.m. Feb. 6.
Four-and-a-half months to determine blunt force injuries? What kind of operation are they running over there at the ME's office? So a murderer or murderers have had a walk for almost half the year with the investigation itself stalled? Unmoved?
And now HeyJackass.com has to go back and re-calculate all their numbers.
And now HeyJackass.com has to go back and re-calculate all their numbers.
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
44 Comments:
Does NOT surprise me. Nothing surprises me about Chicago anymore.
Next case. (and we ALL know there will be another one)
We don't want the ME's office to be overworked. They have to have time off for political rallies and marches etc.
With a 13% homicide clearance rate, which includes police involved shootings, homicide/suicide and CCW Self defense, does it really matter? And let's not blame the detectives for a second (I'm not one). The assault on law enforcement arguably hit the detectives first, with the false narrative of the ironically named "Innocence Project" of the lying Northwestern University professor and a complicit media. Detectives would have to be out of their minds to do anything to further these investigations. The Fox will assume you are a lying racist and look to put you in jail and free the offender.
We had this one down as a “death investigation”. It’s now +2 in the homicide column. Now maybe the ME could do something about the other dozen or so other suspicious deadly fires we’ve noted over the years.
-WHT
Well, they deal with the dead, so, might be they figure, what's the hurry?
Wonder if any from that department will comment here.
A lot of the determination in an Arson Case rest with an Arson Detective. Through his/her expertise in determining the cause of he fire, they write the report classifying it as Arson or Accidental. That report is given to the Homicide Unit and that's what generates and drives the investigation. You don't need to wait for the ME's report to start investigating a determined Arson. All you need is the Cause and Origin Report and if it determines there was an Arson and there were injuries or deaths, the Homicide boy's run with the ball. Why I'm I even bothering with the explanation, we have a 14% Clear-Up Rate and that about sums it up.
No surprise here. District 011 easily leads all CPD districts in murder, sexual assault, robbery, aggravated battery, shooting incidents, total Part 1 violent crimes plus vehicle theft.
The one female/2 M.E. investigator that comes out on scene is a NUT. Ask the homicide dicks that have to deal with her
In 25 years the M.E only responded once to a body I had, why even notify them , they are not coming out
Well you can only juggle it for so long.
I guess there is no hurry.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A lot of the determination in an Arson Case rest with an Arson Detective. Through his/her expertise in determining the cause of he fire, they write the report classifying it as Arson or Accidental. That report is given to the Homicide Unit and that's what generates and drives the investigation. You don't need to wait for the ME's report to start investigating a determined Arson. All you need is the Cause and Origin Report and if it determines there was an Arson and there were injuries or deaths, the Homicide boy's run with the ball. Why I'm I even bothering with the explanation, we have a 14% Clear-Up Rate and that about sums it up.
6/24/2018 01:02:00 AM
CORRECT
Preckwinkle is trying to change all this. Too many black and brown deaths are being ruled homicides
Four-and-a-half months to determine blunt force injuries? What kind of operation are they running over there at the ME's office? So a murderer or murderers have had a walk for almost half the year with the investigation itself stalled? Unmoved?
If only the cpd had a violent crimes Lt. and a Commander to fix these death and suicide investigation for the greater good of...
No surprise here. District 011 easily leads all CPD districts in murder, sexual assault, robbery, aggravated battery, shooting incidents, total Part 1 violent crimes plus vehicle theft.
6/24/2018 01:17:00 AM
But Please remember to repaet this to your self hourly "THE POLICE ARE THE PROBLEM."
ME's office copped Jeff Bezos' business model on
AWS cloud service. AWS has a 7-yr lead over other
cloud computer companies. Just give the perps a 6 month
lead. They could have gone to Europe and back 5 times
(if they had passports). Assault, Murder, Arson.
One dead and 24 wounded so far this weekend.
Congratulations to the EMTs and ER Doctors.
I hope you are all up to it the next two weekends too. It's going to be a banging Fourth of July!
how the fuck does the rahm times get off running a story like this?
https://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion/medical-examiner-cook-county-toni-preckwinkle-death-investigations-editorial/
i'm shocked i tell ya.
All cop humor aside- sure is a disgrace when two people, in their 90s, have their lives ended in such a brutal horrific manner.....
What kind of HUMAN does this? All this liberal uproar about police- police reform, police corruption, blah blah......but the numbers show that the genocide of black lives is being done by black lives.......and not one outcry from the folks who pretend to care......
It's now been over 3 weeks and the coroner has yet to determine the cause of death for Chicago firefighter Juan Buccio too.
Probably because that fired ME did the case and they wanted to make sure
The Morgue is going through another managerial metamorphosis, again under the political management of “We Broke-Need Taxes” Toenail PrickWanker.
Reputations are being tarnished for the sake of Rahm/Special Ed’s dead numbers game. just plain old politics that brings more shame into that office and the usual excuses for more money for protected incompetents.
Nice paying gig I guess, but some don’t realize they have to tolerate elected officials dictating what’s a homicide and what’s undetermined vs. accidental. Murder Capital has to have a scapegoat ME besides just always blaming police for outrageous uncontrollable sanctuary social justice fueled death totals.
Getting back to B &A and Area Homicide, CFD Office of Fire Investigations has the primary role or component in determining origins, means and cause of the arsons. We follow up the death investigation with their findings, obvious spectulations aren’t allowed in Cook Co. We just take the blame for the death, not anyone in or affiliated with the Cook County Office of Restorative Justice, the ultimate and exalted emancipator.
What took so long?
Rahm’s public relation minions have weighed the possibilities as usual;
- Will this incident cast a shadow one the re-Election campaign,with the community, if we hide the facts until March 2019?
- Is there a serial community arsonist at large and the police are doing little to find the culprit?
- Has Toenail PrickWanker given her full support for our re-election campaign yet, if not can we them?
There are a million reasons that the determination was delayed. They don't rule a homicide until everything they are waiting for is in. This is poor reporting.
All the violence,seniors kids being kilt, but we have the new "Tommy house of jams" right next to "Tommy hot n quick felony pizza"
Cook County inmates call new jail recording studio 'a blessing'; officials hope it reduces recidivism
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-county-jail-recording-studio-opens-20180621-story.html
Morris, who’s spent more than a year behind bars awaiting trial on an attempted murder charge, said he’s grateful to be learning the technical aspects of sound engineering, even if he regrets that it took a stint in jail for this opportunity.
“It’s a blessing,” said Morris of the freshly painted 33-by-25-foot cinder block storage room, the result of fundraising efforts by local musician Antony Ablan.
So attempt murder, hey why not start a band, will Tommy since the jail is low of felons as they are being allowed out to prowl the streets and cause more murder and mayhem, will Tommy sell tickets and open it up for the democrats to jam out? We could have the MC being Tommy himself,Kimberly,Toni,Rahm with special appearances by the "50" stooges!
They practicing to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj0Rz-uP4Mk
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-county-jail-recording-studio-opens-20180621-story.html
Anonymous said...
We don't want the ME's office to be overworked. They have to have time off for political rallies and marches etc.
6/24/2018 12:17:00 AM
Except when the lazy-asses want to try and conduct
a post-mortem examination over the phone instead
of dragging their asses to the scene like they're
SUPPOSED TO?
"Yeah but did you inspect the body for..."
C'mon down and have a look-see for yourselves!
Why should Policemen be the only ones in on the fun?
Only The Police are ever held accountable for anything
OT:
“The new officers are being hired as part of the CPD’s plan to add nearly 1,000 cops to the police force, according to Emanuel’s office. More than 2,400 CPD members have been hired or promoted as part of the department’s hiring plan, which started last year. That includes 1,600 new recruits, 77 lieutenants, 214 sergeants, 370 detectives and 213 field training officers who have entered the police training academy.”
More BS dished out by the slum times.
Does anyone know our real rank and file manpower compared to last year? The keep talking about hires but not what has left, retired or promoted.
Sometime next year, after hopefully helping daughter Jessica win election as the 30th Ward alderman, U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., who is not seeking another term this November, will move to Puerto Rico to redouble his efforts to rebuild the hurricane-devastated island.
“I was born in Chicago. I love Chicago. Chicago and I, we have a bond there. But I have to go back home. I have to go back to my other home. I have to go back there and rebuild that island,” Gutierrez told me Saturday.
hey luis make sure the door doesnt hit you in your gangbanger -ss
Anonymous Anonymous said...
No surprise here. District 011 easily leads all CPD districts in murder, sexual assault, robbery, aggravated battery, shooting incidents, total Part 1 violent crimes plus vehicle theft.
6/24/2018 01:17:00 AM
and yet despite those horrible stats and leading most of the country in crime, Kevin Johnson is rumored to be up for Deputy chief or chief much like his failed counterparts in 015 Betts and West.
Watch who you step on Kevin. One of those enemies of yours got some real dirt on you and your twin in 007. All of the political clout, asskissing and media puff pieces won't and can't save you either. Better lawyer up...
It's now been over 3 weeks and the coroner has yet to determine the cause of death for Chicago firefighter Juan Buccio too.
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Probably waiting for lab tests to come back. They can take months sometimes.
Anonymous said...
OT:
“The new officers are being hired as part of the CPD’s plan to add nearly 1,000 cops to the police force, according to Emanuel’s office. More than 2,400 CPD members have been hired or promoted as part of the department’s hiring plan, which started last year. That includes 1,600 new recruits, 77 lieutenants, 214 sergeants, 370 detectives and 213 field training officers who have entered the police training academy.”
More BS dished out by the slum times.
Easy to check. Look at the promotional lists and orders. Every promotion is on an order
Female found dismembered in a car. No serial killer Righttttttt..............
Got to keep the numbers down
So Luis makes deal with rahm to give up seat to Chuy so chuy does not run for mayor (How much was terrorist sympathizer luis paid?), the hispanics have a meeting yesterday to discuss why did screwy luis do this, is he moving because they told his punk ass he was gone? Bet he is scared and cowardly of what will happen with his cheating ass! Maybe a federal investigation will finally take him down!Or could he be moving to get his share from the lying mayor there who got many millions thanks to President Trump that is unaccounted for?
Rep. Luis Gutierrez moving from Chicago to Puerto Rico next year
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/rep-luis-gutierrez-puerto-rico-president-immigration/
But first got to put his little girl in position who has zero experience just like her daddy who caused so many problems:
Gutierrez told me his first priority is electing daughter Jessica, who is challenging an incumbent, Ald. Ariel Reboyas (30th), an ally of Mayor Rahm Emanuel.
Ugh merit Sgt’s popping up . Anyone got the list of where they went ?
In every Perry F-ing Mason book I've read, credit is given by the author to a Harvard Medical School pathology professor. Dr. Paul Brouardel said: "If the law has made you a witness, remain a man of science: you have no victim to avenge, no guilty or innocent person to ruin or save. You must bear testimony within the limits of science." The ME's Office has very capable doctors on staff. I go back to the days of Dr. Stein and every chief ME since. They've all been criticized for various things, but refused to bow to political pressure or influences by attorneys. They remained fact-finders in the name of science.
Ugh merit Sgt’s popping up . Anyone got the list of where they went ?
6/24/2018 07:47:00 PM
Yes I heard the other Dillion sister from the airport is getting put in for it. This dept sucks
Trauma found on the wife, but none on the husband. Possibly murder/suicide?
It's now been over 3 weeks and the coroner has yet to determine the cause of death for Chicago firefighter Juan Buccio too.
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Probably waiting for lab tests to come back. They can take months sometimes.
Only when the want it to.
C'mon and do the Jailhouse Rock with me........
If ya can't find a partner, use a wooden chair......
Perhaps the lifers at the morgue are waiting for the
July influx of med students. Maybe there're just lazy.
You guys have a nationwide rep for being slow on
processing. During past heatwaves, they were stacked
in refer trucks. Yeah, blame it on the weather and summer
vacations.
The Democratic Party got hold of their home addresses,
filled in change-of-address forms, now these folks vote
imperpuitity
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Perhaps the lifers at the morgue are waiting for the
July influx of med students. Maybe there're just lazy.
You guys have a nationwide rep for being slow on
processing. During past heatwaves, they were stacked
in refer trucks. Yeah, blame it on the weather and summer
vacations.
The Democratic Party got hold of their home addresses,
filled in change-of-address forms, now these folks vote
imperpuitity
The workers are political appointees. How do you think they got the job? Thru the county board.
These are my grandparents. I am pleased that the detectives and ME took as long as they did to get all their information correct. Please pray for my family. Thank you.
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