Saturday, June 23, 2018

13% Bullshit

  • Black Americans are not more likely to be shot by the police than White Americans in proportion to each group's rate of interaction with the police, as measured by crime rate, a new study argues.

    The report, by psychologists Joseph Cesario and David Johnson and criminologist William Terrill, analyzes trends in fatal shootings by police in 2015 and 2016 using a variety of data sources.

    Measuring racial disparities in police use of force is a touchy subject. High-profile shootings of black men by police have been a focal point for Blacks Lives Matter and similar groups, which see such shootings as both endemic of larger police abuses and an epidemic in their own right.
The study takes on the nonsense statistic that since blacks make up 13% of the population then they should account for 13% of tickets, offenders, prison population and (of course) police shooting encounters. The authors blow a large hole in the waterline of that argument...but they also realize such an inflammatory finding won't endear them to the establishment that has a vested interest in continuing the political theater. It's still a mildly interesting read.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, so much for them having any credibility in the marxist universities of America. You didn't tow the "progressive" line so you are now discredited.

I get nervous whenever they say we should have mental health check ups for firearms ownership. I'm not 11 years old nor am I a millenial, I remember because I'm an old fart that pays attention. The old Soviet Union, that paragon of world socialism used to send people to the psychiatrist when they had the temerity to disagree with or point out problems with the communist system of governance there. Off to the psychiatrist and then exile to Siberia. Oh yes, I am just wanting to submit to some deranged leftist psychiatrists opinion of my mental health. Kiss off Bernie, Nancy, Chuckie and Barry.

6/23/2018 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you have a stereotype to uphold, you know, young black men are cool, play ball well and are bad asses. Well, you revel in the bad boy stereotype as long as it gets you the girls and respect on the street, but it also gets you into trouble since part of that tough guy appearance is a take no shit from no one and you can't make me do nuthin. And then you get jammed up. Bad asses have more interactions with the police and we never meet no one that's havin a good day. When the wolf tangles with the sheep dog someone gets hurt and there's no guarantee it's gonna be the bad guy.

6/23/2018 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Math is Hard.

So is a bullet.

Apparently, some prefer the bullet to the math.

Ah, sweet freedom of choice.

6/23/2018 12:37:00 AM  
Blogger Chip Bagg said...

13% of stupid is still stupid.

6/23/2018 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Per the FBI’s crime stays, black males (6.5% of the population) murder 40% of Police Officers per year. Shouldn’t they only make up 6.5% of police killers?

Why are black males hunting down and murdering police officers at such a staggering rate?

6/23/2018 02:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The narrative is so entrenched that most people believe it. And the Democrats the news media and the entertainment industry keep putting false stories out there to keep this thing rolling.

6/23/2018 03:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just drive western ave it entire length with in the city. Western ave clearly shows the direction Chicago and its politics have gone. Most your drive mirrors a third world country.

6/23/2018 05:32:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Truth is a bitch, isn't it?

6/23/2018 06:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More fake news, pandering to minorities for votes, and asset relocation.

Tho I suppose I'm a little racist cause there are certain neighborhoods I entirely avoid since I dont want to end up shot full of holes by some 19yo who I dissed by looking at his drug set up the wrong way.

6/23/2018 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In any other area of life , 13% on anything was causing and costing what this particular 13% was it would be fixed immediately. But in this case it must be manipulated to enrich the 1%

6/23/2018 07:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Google “Heather MacDonald”. Tons of evidence that shows the media and BLM are making this all up.

6/23/2018 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) how about honoring all firefighters and paramedics that were killed in the line of duty;

Black Fire Brigade opens clubhouse for peer support, youth mentoring
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/black-firefighters-clubhouse-chicago-fire-department-gaelic-black-fire-brigade-support-mentoring/

I do not know of any or any of my colleagues do not know of any fire fighter organizations that on her only their race that were killed in the line of duty this further separates the firefighters who lived together sleep in the same house this kind of reeks of racism possibly?

6/23/2018 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liars figure and figures lie

6/23/2018 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Political theater? You are far too kind. It is communist propaganda by useful idiot. The good old divide and conquer. Make black and white hate each other, that way they can't gang up on these leftist communist jagoffs.

6/23/2018 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Were the victims shot by the police, involved in any illegal activity at that time?


Or just sitting on a bus bench reading the Bible.

6/23/2018 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the radicals could handle one grain of truth about race it would be an improvement for our nation. They bury their head in the sand like an ostrich.

Look at the black on white crime in Humboldt Park. All the robberies are black on white.

Hey, when NY'ers squawked about race, at least Bloomberg had the balls to stand up and say that blacks (and browns) commit all the crime in NYC. Think the tiny dancer would have the balls to say that here? No fucking way.

Google "The Color of Crime" PDF (not the ultra liberal book, this is a report)

Brutal truth

6/23/2018 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will Obama show true leadership and retract his statements on the matter? Of course not.

6/23/2018 10:21:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J Twillie said...

>>>> Black people make up about 13 percent of the population, the argument goes, so should make up about 13 percent of police shootings. ....snip... The paper argues that this methodology is misguided, because it "carries with it a critical assumption: (blah, blah) <<<<

That methodology is "misguided" because it 'assumes' everyone in that 13% is committing crimes. And they 'ain't'.

That 13% includes everyone. Women, Men, Kids 18 years old and younger, and Seniors 65 and over. And we know all those folks aren't out there Slingin' Dope, committing Robberies, and Killing Folks (and people). Black women are 50% of that 13% and Kids & Seniors make up another couple percent (I went to the latest census data for the numbers).

Granted, things are changing and younger kids are getting involved in shit and so are women and girls. But all those things considered, you get to Black Males between 19 and 64, the 'prime age' for committing crime and their number is roughly 4.5%.

So forget 13%, it's only 4.5% of the US population who is committing 51% of all Murders, 54% of Robberies, and 36% of all violent crime (per latest FBI Stats).

6/23/2018 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So should the CPD and all other government positions nationwide hire only 13% of blacks? They’d shit bricks.

6/23/2018 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

phil only ccares about himself hey fat phil how many more of your clout buddies are on the cpmf payroll

6/23/2018 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Male blacks commit an exponential number of violent crimes while making up only 6% of the population. I'm surprised the number being shot by Poleec isn't much higher than it is.

6/23/2018 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Per the FBI’s crime stays, black males (6.5% of the population) murder 40% of Police Officers per year. Shouldn’t they only make up 6.5% of police killers?

Why are black males hunting down and murdering police officers at such a staggering rate?

6/23/2018 02:22:00 AM


Using their "13.5% of the population"
race grievance talking point...

Wouldn't black males in "urban areas" ages 15 to 50 constitute
the greatest threat to Policemen and society overall?

>Crickets<

Decent people are SICK of THEIR revenge and reparations
fantasy/everything is racial bullshit...
It's wrecking this nation as a safe and stable place.

...Use THEIR weapons against THEM.

6/23/2018 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...




Following their logic then:
Blacks should be 13% of the NBA and NFL.


6/23/2018 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In fact blacks do make up a little over 13% of the population. But not all segments of that demographic commit crimes at the same rate. Seldom do we arrest <10 year olds, or people who are 60 and older.

Here is what I mean. Lets say that 7% of the population are black males. We know that black males are responsible for over 50% of the homicides committed in this county. It would be inaccurate to deduct that 7% of the population are the culprit in over 50% of the homicides. That's because that 7% represents all black males, and crime is not evenly distributed over that population.

Most violent crimes are committed by males between the ages of 17 to 35 year old. So I would think that about 2% of the population of black males compose that cohort are responsible for the majority of homicides.

Now is it any surprise that this group is the most violent demographic in the population and also are those that are most frequently shot by the police?

6/23/2018 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the article does not present any truly useful information. just some percentages that don't mean much by themselves without knowing where the underlying data came from, or anything about the raw data. and you have to pay to get the full story. so i would say while it might mean what it purports to mean, it might not either.

6/23/2018 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

police deaths due to murder are at near record lows. the "war on cops" is not working out all that well for whomever it is that is at war with cops.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-12-28/dramatic-drop-in-police-officer-deaths-in-2017

Dramatic Drop in Police Officer Deaths in 2017
After three years on the rise, the number of law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty is close to a 50-year low.

6/23/2018 05:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Black Americans are more likely to be killed by other blacks oh and rahm the children are not safe the seniors 2 90 year old homicide victims in rahms corrution filled hellhole, bet these 2 may they RIP, are the oldest couple killed here:

Deaths of West Side husband and wife, both 90, ruled homicides
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-fire-deaths-homicides-20180623-story.html

You make it to 90 years old and your killed and the democrats sit,laugh take the money and drink the wine! The hispanics are meeting wondering why chuy sold them out and how much was little pos luis paid to give his seat to chuy! It is disgraceful no hispanics for mayor who are they afraid of rahm?

6/23/2018 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...
>>>> Black people make up about 13 percent of the population, the argument goes, so should make up about 13 percent of police shootings. ....snip... The paper argues that this methodology is misguided, because it "carries with it a critical assumption: (blah, blah) <<<<

That methodology is "misguided" because it 'assumes' everyone in that 13% is committing crimes. And they 'ain't'.

That 13% includes everyone. Women, Men, Kids 18 years old and younger, and Seniors 65 and over. And we know all those folks aren't out there Slingin' Dope, committing Robberies, and Killing Folks (and people). Black women are 50% of that 13% and Kids & Seniors make up another couple percent (I went to the latest census data for the numbers).

Granted, things are changing and younger kids are getting involved in shit and so are women and girls. But all those things considered, you get to Black Males between 19 and 64, the 'prime age' for committing crime and their number is roughly 4.5%.

So forget 13%, it's only 4.5% of the US population who is committing 51% of all Murders, 54% of Robberies, and 36% of all violent crime (per latest FBI Stats).


WOW!
I never though of this like that.




6/24/2018 01:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is anyone really buying this BS??????

6/24/2018 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tell this genius who wrote the article to come to the west side, his head will explode once be sees who commits all these crimes

6/24/2018 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like they knew the stats for the years chosen
(2015 + 2016) and built their "study" around it.
Ka-Ching!
(Betcha they use lots of free Federal Govt. data,
hence the lag time)

6/24/2018 02:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Were the victims shot by the police, involved in any illegal activity at that time?


Or just sitting on a bus bench reading the Bible.

6/23/2018 09:20:00 AM


Reading?

>Pffft!<

"Reading," (let alone actually being informed)
is just another "trick" by da wytman…

Never in human history have so many
believed so joyously in so much, that just ain't so...

...To their complete and total detriment.

6/24/2018 05:18:00 PM  

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