What the Heck is This?
What District(s) or "merit" bosses put this together?
Someone said it was rescinded within hours of being released. Someone else said it's 12 entire pages, but this one is the meat of it all. Wonder how the citizens feel knowing that they're just a "point system" to bigger overtime checks.
UPDATE: It's eight pages long, not twelve, and we've been sent the entire package along with the Order suspending implementation. Fred Waller's signature is all over this thing.
UPDATE: It's eight pages long, not twelve, and we've been sent the entire package along with the Order suspending implementation. Fred Waller's signature is all over this thing.
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 5:31 AM
160 Comments:
003, supposed pilot program
This department is overrun with dumb people. Very, very dumb people. Very unintelligent.
Point System = Quotas
WOWWIE.....That's kinda looks like a Yahtzee score sheet.....
That’s easy - the newly promoted commander of the 2nd district. While he was the Lt. at Patrol HQ. Eddie just keeps picking real winners.
Again, a quota system for ot.
Obviously, despite Rahm's aggressive hiring, there is still a huge gap in the number of officers working the street.
How many full duty officers are working administrative positions?
Burn out is a real concern.
I work inside. How many points do I get for making the coffee?
If I understand this correctly, you’d be basically competing against coworkers to make sure you had enough activity to work your desired days?
Also, a school absentee with a required ISR is worth more than an arrest? Let’s say the only activity I did all month was one school absentee and the ISR, and all my partner did was catch a guy that was responsible for multiple burglaries and it cleared a huge pattern. The department has laid out a case the officer with the absentee had a better month of policing?
What’s zero times zero?
Gangs will finally be obliterated in Chicago! No, wait. Gang DATABASES will be obliterated.....
http://www.chicagotribune.com/g00/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-police-gang-database-lawsuit-20180619-story.html?i10c.encReferrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8%3D&i10c.ua=1&i10c.dv=14
That is so civilized, I had a flashback of my private sector days :)) I killed it- got highest pay increase and bonuses!
We’re back to counting ISR’s as activity? This department will never learn...
Is that admissible in court as defense? ! Your honor, out of fear of the negative impact of a low score and fear of losing /not being eligible for (- - - ) I was forced to enforce even the pimpiest of laws so my total score would allow me (- - - )
If a 20 yr. 8 to 4, S/S housemouse has seniority but hasn’t worked a Beat in twenty five years, would they barred from in-District OT?
Heck, whom better to work weekends than a S/S housemouse?
How can and how does a HouseMouse get ranked? Counts for copier use, mail distribution, coffee maker cleanings?
And I’m taking it that senior slacker house and duck sergeants get the benefit over Beat sergeants.
Seems the HQ Merit Brains Division have created in writing thats there’s some job description separation between real Beat Police, housemouse police, district discretionary assignments police that’s going to have a challenge on their hands.
All in all, it’s a Merit Management policy and it’s all good.
If it was pulled, it was because it didn’t include the dainty, the lackluster and the connected admins.
Tweaks are coming.
Total DC discretion is likely.
But let it be known, Sick n’ Tired Special Ed and Lil AntKnee are ‘show-me-the numbers’ guys and this selective headhunter stunt is not good for morale and yes, el’COPRAH and associated preferred community law offices are waiting.
Don’t fall for this nonsense.
Fetal is better.
In district overtime should be on a merit system and it should have a cap on it. I’m sorry but get out of the caps office if you want it.
Chief of patrol sent it out. And rescinded it. Wonder if he ever passed a test? Wonder what brain made him take it down?
How is anything with a point system attached to it not a quote?
Does the DOJ know about this ?
(OT) Arnold Schwarzenegger’s statement:
The administration is right that we need to fix our immigration system. But if anybody is going to be in a cage while we wait for a comprehensive reform, let's make it the politicians who don't do their jobs in the cages, not innocent kids.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5863995/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-speaks-against-Trumps-immigration-policy.html
Maybe if the feds ever do their jobs in the most corrupt city state county and come to Chicago they could arrest the elected felons and put them in “cages” which would be change we could definitely believe in!
Of course it was rescinded. Someone forgot the front office staff. Can't have an opportunity for extra cash to be made only by the ones that work the streets on a day to day basis.
Here's a break down of activity for them to follow..........
Kiss the Commanders ass................................................. 50 points
Come to work in uniform................................................. 25 points
Spend at least half the watch actually working and not socializing...... 8 points
Actually finding out what the phone caller wants before blowing the call
off onto desk personnel..................................................2 points
Idiots again
This was done by a Lieutenant in 14 back in maybe 2007. Everyone’s ranking was posted on the door of the roll call room. Didn’t last. Same type of point system. You can’t measure the work that the police do. What about working in a slow district where nothing happens as opposed to a district where you rush from one call to another? Case reports don’t count but it’s police work. Helping zitizens don’t count, but it’s police work. How many jobs you do a tour is police work, but that doesn’t count. This is not an assembly line where you can count how many widgets you push through the line.
They are a point system when it comes to voting, so what is the difference?
So if your assigned to a law abiding beat, you get punished for not arresting people to get points. Sure seems like a quota system to this citizen. This is the way the Democrat Socialist think. Very sad.
It doesn’t violate the law because a grievance already ruled they can do it for special enjoyment overtime such as VRI. This looks like someone took this point system idea from a LT that was in 014 a while back who is retired now. I’m not sure what he used it for but it was not popular.
I think it is a great idea!
Who came up with the idea they did not sign it?
How does a lock up keeper get points?
How does a desk officer get points?
How does the wagon guy get points?
How does the commanders secretary get points?
Does a tact team all get equal points for 1 arrest or is it divided by the number of person on arrest?
THIS idea is so great it should be used to hire MERITS with the cities bids!
Yet nobody signs an idea they stole by the way from college course many of us have taken.
Take credit when you think you have reinvented the wheel.
CMON special ED I know you did not read the order quit letting your triple merits embarrass you and not sign the order they claim is so great!
What is the weight for blowing your W/C?
Please... out the fucking idiots responsible for constructing this abortion.
It's been warming the "cockles" of my heart for years. The city WANTS a quota system for the police, but they really CANT have a quota system for the police. :-)
We all knew it. I cant count how many times the WC read from a piece of paper at roll call giving the need for "X" amount of arrests, movers, and parkers needed in "supplement" to official record of the roll call C.O. book. I'm sure that piece of paper was "mysteriously lost afterwards.
I believe they are being filed along somewhere with the Dean Andrews investigations binders...
Opps what is happening again? Quotas? are they not illegal? Then again living in the most corrupt city in the country anything goes!
This chief Waller should be demoted immediately. Does he know nothing about the court ruling banning quotas? That case specifically banned the use of a weighted points system which is exactly what this is. Not only that, the points are determined not based on the impact that the specific category has on public safety, it's completely based on what they think is important. For example an arrest is worth 7 points yet an ISR is worth 6? So if you catch the right guy you get 7, if you catch and release the wrong guy you get 6? It will never fly my contention is that everyone who had a part in putting this together and signing off on it should be dumped immediately as they show that they don't have the grasp on what can and can't be done legally (i.e. Quota systems)
Lol idiotic. The best thing this blog does is shine a light on stuff like this and hold the dept and city's feet to the fire. . Stuff that would never get out any other way.
Nothing new. Years ago a boss graded you by something similar. People started putting how many points their arrest was worth on the arrestee’s forehead. Stopped when a judge asked in court what the number was for.
Looks like tact gonna be dominating this.
-----> 'Wonder how the citizens feel knowing that they're just a "point system" to bigger overtime checks'. <-----
Well... if I was a wanted Felon I think I'd be offended, insulted and downright discriminated against, for only being the same Point Value as some mook getting busted for Misdemeanor Shoplifting.
(LOL)
This hypothetical officer killed it at the district level. But unfortunately he/she does not have enough activity to qualify for V.R.I. Ah we suck again.
This is what happens when you have a department run by people who never had to pass a test or did you pass a test but only by cheating.
That sucks, because it should be that way screw the dog ass non workers
From NBC.
"A Chicago teenager will be sentenced Wednesday for using a gun given to her by an uncle to kill another girl in what started as a Facebook feud over a boy, ending a chapter in a case that came to symbolize how the gun violence that plagues parts of the city passes from one generation to the next."
Did ya talk about that at the march? Flager? Giffords? Parkland?
This hypothetical officer killed it at the district level. But unfortunately he/she does not have enough activity to qualify for V.R.I. Ah we suck again.
Looking at the point system I started LOL. This is a sissy system, put together by some empty holster(s). In the TASK FORCE it was arrests only. And here is the summary: Murder-15 points, Robbery, Rape, Burglary, Auto Theft, UUW all 10 pointers. Narc arrests usually dealt with quantity. So lets say you grab a hot car with four assholes, 40 points. You hunted because you liked to, and if you were highest in your squad, you worked in plain cloths, got early ducks, and sneak Furloughs. If you got a gun, depending on you Sgt. you would off duty. The Sgt. ran the unit, and the Lt. made sure the CR's were unfounded or Not sustained. Life was good and we had a ton of fun.
It's down right pathetic what has happened to this department, what next points for attendance and personal hygiene...
"Quotas," by any other name are a
legal, moral and ethical no-no...
"Since we can't bully/browbeat/harass/ threaten
these coppers with denied time off/breaking up
partners/fucking with their assigned start times
to goad them into bringing in an arbitrarily weighted,
deliberately nebulous amount of "activity" that we the
exempt echelon can manipulate to fool the public into
thinking that "something is being done" about crime
and how they perceive it; what else if anything can we
do to make these Coppers bring in numbers we can use?"
It would seem that "Fetality" is starving the Compstat
and "bring in activity" beasts to skeletons...
So now, out of desperation, Rahm and the exempts
are trying to incentivize "activity" right when the
smartest method of Policing and the method most
conducive to saving Policemen from financial, career
and legal/civil harm is the hands-off/strictly-by-the-numbers,
dry/flavorless/unsexy/unexciting, arrive/drop paper/leave
Policing that EVERYBODY said they wanted but now that
The Police are giving it to them hard, they say they don't
like it?
"Go back to puttin' y'all han' on
them boyz doin' all dat crime
up in heah..."
Nope...
You made a big, splashy 24 hour media production
out of making The Police retreat and leave the
misunderstood "Yung Menz" alone and to stop
feeding them into the prison pipeline and other
such agenda driven narration.
...So now you have "Crime" spilling out of the second
story windows and you're desperately looking around
for "somebody" to do "something."
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
Remember...
Once "Police Reform" happens, crime should
miraculously dissipate like a fart in the wind
and all the reform advocates can strut, flap
their wings, shit and loudly crow about their
"victory" over The Police.
That’s why it’s laughable when the department denies there’s a quota.
I think “parkers” should be worth more.
We really do employ some of the stupidest people on the planet as bosses. When I saw this, I thought, what about seniority? This is a violation of the contract. I'm glad it didn't need an official grievance to over turn it. Just how stupid are the bosses Rahm and Kidney Bean appoint to help run the department? What I do know is that birds of a feather flock together. We are doomed between the stupid and the evil ones that run this shit show.
Its almost as if you dont have a Union since the City does whatever it wants.
Well, I suppose there are plenty of fresh faced ppo’s that will be willing to play that game. Not sure what the academy / kook aid center is telling them, but they sure seem to act like they know better.
What in the hell is this
It's the new VRI. All in district but it's official, as in you have to sign up in clear and get assigned through clear. It was 8 pages.
I worked in Gang Crimes (the real one 30 years ago) under a point system. It was ridiculous and caused some level of sand bagging. Sun Times had actually run a few cartoons about it. Nothing good comes from a point system
FOP Lodge 7 had the concerns for the private citizen front and center when they stated that it violated the police contract. Police no longer hunt for activity for economic reward.
Liberals say.......Police work shall not be about rewarding police for proactive police work that generates activity (whatever activity is parkers/movers/arrests/anov's/ISR's)
So now liberals have created a department that can't reward proactive policing.
It's totally f----ed up.
The only solution is electric grid failure country wide, followed by civil war, followed by Puritan family values.
America
Seriously??? If this is real we have gone from stupid and incompetent bosses to absolutely brain fucking dead. Holy shit where do these people come from? This can't be real.
Ok big deal. They ask you for a little bit of activity. You can not tell me that in a typical eight hour tour an officer can't write a few parkers, movers or blue cards. Not to mention an anov or isr if available. In the mean time, some of you will continue bitching how some people in society are takers and don't work while you bring in zero activity across the board every night.
😂 it’s like a bad comedy act.
Can’t believe some dope actually did this? Cops earn points by arresting or ticketing people and then can be paid more through OT based on their points? Arrests earn the most points? This is a lawyers wetdream. ACLU will love this. How embarrassing
The bosses want to make sure that the citizens pay for said overtime. Twice! Once via taxes and fees, then again via tickets. No wonder the media has an easy job of building resentment against the police.
The ones who cry the most do the least amount of work. Those who do the least expect the most. Similar to promotions. The higher the rank equals lower activity. Give a bone to those who work not a bone to the dogs.
sergeants by seniority... no rank credit for supervisors?!?! OMG, total idiots! Total contradiction! As usual!
Light those blue lights to support police ahh no for this:
Petition asks CTA to install blue lights to prevent suicide
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-cta-blue-light-suicides-20180620-story.html
And to think liberals complain when police use blue lights, rahm pay attention police prevent suicides now where’s our contract? Bet if they did this all the “we hate police” groups would be upset and riot!
So any of these bullshit illegal more $$$ for arrests the narratives should read. While on aggressive patrol searching for activity to qualify for overtime the pay pool at vri / a/o observed...
or for this one while it on aggressive patrol looking for activity to gain weighted points per BOP#...... so a/o can work in district overtime a/o observed arrestee riding a divey bike on the sidewalk with one hand.....lol!!
(OT) now maybe instead of talking the fbi can do it’s job and lock this pos up immediately:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/20/melania-calls-secret-service-after-actor-peter-fonda-threatens-to-kidnap-barron-trump/
CPD’s version of fantasy football....gotta love it!! Who the hell is in charge of labor affairs?? Wow
Would bullshit dispersals carry a weight of 3? Good thing we have an intellectual think tank running the department.
Sounds like quota based in-District vri to me...
Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'.....
This is the kind of crap we have been dealing with for years just to get VRI!
It is a Quota!
Quotas are supposed to be illegal!
I hope Chicago gets their asses sued by the Supreme Court of the United States!
Also, where is the ACLU? Media? CRICKETS!
Just make it a bounty system.
Drinker/pisser/etc = $25.
PCS = $40 ($50 if delivery)
Movers range from $10-50
Guns = $75 (we should get the same as the turn in folks)
Felon with a gun = $100 (with additional bonus for parole violations)
Batts and Agg Batts vary but start at $25 and can hit $150 (with a double bonus if the victim expires).
Good hunting everyone.
There's always been a point system. AllCPD cares about is numbers, not people. Now they're being flooded with all of fast eddie's incompetent butt-kissing merit commanders that will try to trick you into numbers or create them creatively. I guess his driver will be commander next. Poor weazy, the others get promoted for only kissing butt. She giving it all up and can't get promoted.
OT
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/06/20/dem-kansas-ag-candidate-displays-poster-wonder-woman-lassoing-cop/
This was up for about 8 hours then taken down. Looks like a quota point system to me.
Nice trying to circumvent seniority.
It was talked about at the FOP meeting last night. While we’re at it, how about making those hunch lab rooms every district has, bid positions. I’d like to see that added to the contract like the desk and review.
"This" is the result of the perception of total, socialist style, control, of all government authorities within the socialist, aka, communist, aka, fascist, totalitarian region of crook county and cit of chicanery.
They don't believe anyone, from anywhere, in any way, can stop them.
Neither law, state or federal, nor blood, running the streets slick and sticky, do they consider as effective deterence to their rule.
Whatever anyone thinks of the stink and stench of californian style chicaneries, goes multiples times for this shithole.
Blatant, to them, is business as usual.
They're hunkering down, in the various rat holes scattered across our nation, doing what they do within their territorial fiefdoms, and with abandon, lately, as they know that their days are numbered.
Their time is coming to an inglorious end, brought by, of all lovely things, the very basic instinct of human nature, economics.
The rats, so long dedicated to, not swimming, but dragging those who are swimming down into the depths, have triggered the instinct to live long & prosper, thus, they have caused their own diminishment and inevitable dissolution.
MAGA
All the guys upset are the ones that expect to get paid overtime to watch their Netflix. You have nobody to blame but yourselves.
At least we can clearly see the problem now. These idiots in charge don't have the slightest clue what a quota is. Someone actually came up with this idea, and it likely passed several levels of approval before being put on paper. Then it was released, apparently without any of the department's lawyers having seen it and recognized it as a quota system. Then it gets rescinded once someone tells them it's illegal. Complete morons deciding policy. Here's a clue for those in charge: when you offer to pay officers more money in exchange for more arrests, movers, parkers, etc., that is an illegal quota. It encourages corruption. It rewards it. It guarantees it. Stop trying to supplement the manpower shortage you created by coming up with overtime programs and bike teams and summer mobile teams, and start hiring qualified people as quickly as you can. We need more officers on the street, in the districts. We need the police officers and sergeants to be spread more evenly throughout the city, not only concentrated in high crime areas. You've shortchanged the taxpayers and good citizens while providing an abundance of services where they're not appreciated, not effective, and not safe. The previously safe parts of the city, which were relatively crime-free, at least in regards to violent crime, are now seeing a massive increase in such crimes. This is because there aren't enough police to even man the beat cars on each watch. 7 beat cars and one sergeant isn't enough to police anything in this city, but that's what we end up with on certain nights. Meanwhile, on the west side, there are 40 cars from the district, 50 cars from outside units, various foot, bike, skateboard, speedboat, etc. officers and 10-20 sergeants. And the crime and violence continue to grow out of control. We have so many bosses on this department, chiefs of everything, but not one of them can figure out how to actually deploy resources in a fair and effective manner? It's absolutely disgusting and ridiculous. I don't see how this department or city will survive much more of this.
ben should of been fired years ago
The democrat is a mutated form of what was once potentially human.
It can be definitively identified by this observable facet:
The democrat has two, (2), assholes; one located between the twin muscle groups known as buttocks, and the other located just below it's nostrils.
Having two assholes, and, given the nature of the substance which emerges, on a repetative basis, from the asshole, it is not unexpected that the "this" referred to in this article occured.
In fact, the "this" occurs as a matter of the natural, though mutated, function as described.
They will try anything to try and get production out of the troops , this is how the department is now managed with threats from incompetent bosses selected by merit with no idea now to run a police department. If the city give in to these cheating and lying Lt and promotes them even higher than the department is totally lost and any working PO is a complete fool to give this department any production and deserve any thing that happens to them in the future
Not a quota, amirite?
SCC, compliments to you!
You have become a gentleman's journalist.
You asked "What the heck..."
The rest of us would have used blue collar,middle class, language.
It’s a point system people much like they had in the days of Gang Crimes (I/F).... same idea and concept but different pioint values obviously. Back them you needed 100 points a period or you got a talking too and if it persisted you got dumped. This not withstanding however on the watches back when we rotated from Days to midnights to afternoons and no bidding for watches you had to meet the watches demands. For example some watches wanted 3 movers and 2 Parker’s a day or some wanted 2 movers and 3 Parker’s a day or some variation of. This was required along with the requisite curfews, school absentees, Bus Checks. If you didn’t meet the demands of a particular watch then your were dumped, launched into orbit until a watch would pick you up but again you needed to have the numbers to stay.
Everybody is a slave to the department. I must go get my numbers to work overtime, I must!!!. It would take one period of boycotting overtime initiative to make them stop all the bullshit. You are the mouse on the spinning wheel, get some balls and don't work for the month of August, or even July. Who cares if they come down on everyone hard, it won't matter if we stick togethor.
Sounds like you have to work to get an overtime gig. Since no one in their right mind is working, trash the policy. Boys and girls live within your means and do not fall for this crap. Do what you must until you retire. No one will back you if you fall in shit. Make them hire more cops!
It was only 8 pages. 🤣🤣
If I understand this correctly, you’d be basically competing against coworkers to make sure you had enough activity to work your desired days?
Also, a school absentee with a required ISR is worth more than an arrest? Let’s say the only activity I did all month was one school absentee and the ISR, and all my partner did was catch a guy that was responsible for multiple burglaries and it cleared a huge pattern. The department has laid out a case the officer with the absentee had a better month of policing?
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This has always been the case, short timer. Remember, the City/Department cares only about revenue and the perception of safety. The dinosaurs will remember a mover, 5 parkers, and a bus check, and you were "golden" Now see, the school absentee not on the street can't get shot or be shot - perception of safety. ISR, again, perception of safety - we got this big database of offenders. Don't you feel safe?
Your burglary arrest only costs the city money in court time, and the county in housing the prisoner. Net loss for the government. They could give 2 shits about the pattern and the poor slobs who were broken into.
What’s zero times zero?
6/20/2018 06:32:00 AM
If my math is correct,3.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ok big deal. They ask you for a little bit of activity. You can not tell me that in a typical eight hour tour an officer can't write a few parkers, movers or blue cards. Not to mention an anov or isr if available. In the mean time, some of you will continue bitching how some people in society are takers and don't work while you bring in zero activity across the board every night.
You have obviously missed the point. I will not be buying a ticket for your benefit.
To paraphrase a late coworker of mine, "No sir, My Sgt. says I have to write ten tickets a month. It's only the 20th, and you're my tenth. I'm done for the month. This is my 3rd month in a row, so my wife gets a toaster."
It doesn’t violate the law because a grievance already ruled they can do it for special enjoyment overtime such as VRI. This looks like someone took this point system idea from a LT that was in 014 a while back who is retired now. I’m not sure what he used it for but it was not popular.
6/20/2018 08:14:00 AM
No you idiot it violates a court ruling against using a weighted point systems. The Dept can still use a "minimum activity" standard
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well, I suppose there are plenty of fresh faced ppo’s that will be willing to play that game. Not sure what the academy / kook aid center is telling them, but they sure seem to act like they know better.
6/20/2018 10:11:00 AM
Doubt PPO’s will do this. They are on probation and will be low keyed until they get off probation. Are they even allowed when on probation
OT
This years Puerto Rican Fest was the first time they charged a $2 donation at the gate. They claimed that the money was earmarked for the Hurricane Maria recovery effort. Low and behold, four days after the Fest is over the President of The Puerto Rican Parade Committee went into the 14th District desk to report that "up to $70,000" was stolen from the donation boxes. He's claiming that security was responsible for the theft. Sorry Hurricane Maria survivors, maybe next year.
LOVE IT!.....rack up numbers- earn opportunity to work overtime racking up numbers in same place for extra pay.....what could go wrong?...Arrestees are I-bonded for everything anyways, traffic violators don't need ID to get I-Bond....set em all free, lock em all up again again again.
Department is run by set of fools without the brains to stop making things worse...hire anyone, promote unqualified...no way they ever come up with a way to stop the daily bloodshed
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Is that admissible in court as defense? ! Your honor, out of fear of the negative impact of a low score and fear of losing /not being eligible for (- - - ) I was forced to enforce even the pimpiest of laws so my total score would allow me (- - - )
Not a defense in court. Nobody is forcing you to write a ticket. Only you can enforce the pimples that ticket. For fear of losing OT? Do your job and you’ll get the OT. There will be plenty of guys meeting the requirements. City tried this before and nothing happened. Most of the stuff in the contract only apply to you job , not overtime
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It was talked about at the FOP meeting last night. While we’re at it, how about making those hunch lab rooms every district has, bid positions. I’d like to see that added to the contract like the desk and review.
Did you tell FOP at the meeting this is what you want. What do you expect the blog to do? Tell FOP
In district overtime should be on a merit system and it should have a cap on it. I’m sorry but get out of the caps office if you want it.
6/20/2018 07:10:00 AM
What's wrong got 2 years on? Management on days? Kissing ass isn't getting you around senority! Listen fuckbag! If you don't get fired for being stupid before you get 20 years tell us where your hard work got you! Nothing worse than dumbass new people
Wait until the Alderthieves start getting the calls from the peoples/folks. That boys and girls will be a problem.
When they started requiring activity for VRI, the number of assisting officers on arrest reports exploded. Desk, lockup, office, caps, all thrown on to get their heads. There's a way around everything.
All of you morons saying this is how it should be have absolutely no concept of what a quota system is, or why it's bad. Let me dumb it down for you: quota = no-no. Quota bad. Quota illegal.
No one thinks you're a badass because you have the most arrests or the most ISRs or the most movers. If you somehow measure yourself as a police officer based on these things, you're pathetic and you're putting yourself in danger of losing your job and your freedom. Answer your calls, back each other up, help people who need it, arrest those who need to be arrested, go home safe. That's all that matters. Anything else is just for revenue, ego, or ass-kissing. Wake up.
100 Parker’s, all around the alderman office.
I may be in the minority here but bosses used to expect people to do work. It wasn't the end of the world. Ya did a few contact cards or movers or snobs and ya got a good start time or car you wanted. But if you pissed and moaned did nothing help down on jobs your got treated accordingly. I dont know this job still pays the bills but way to many prissy and ENTITLED assholes.
OFF TOPIC, received word today that a great copper who worked 022 passed away this week,ROGEER BUSCH, was told there was to be no viewing or serviceWORKED WITH ROGER YEARS BACK IN THE OLD 006, A GREAT GUY, RIP,
I am amazed that no one caught this before it went public. Just goes to show how desperate they are. In 025 they've began a check off activity sheet. If coming in with zeros a reason has to be written by the beat officers. Just another way to fuck with the beat officers. Obviously, management does not give a fuck about morale so I don't give a fuck about management and their backlogs. Fellow beat car rangers: stay safe, back each other up, keep your jobs, assets, and go home to your families. All that matters
Why stop at the Hunch lab spots, how about all the CAPS spots, the Commander's comp stat spots, secretary spots...All inside spots should be by bid.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Looks like tact gonna be dominating this.
6/20/2018 09:14:00 AM
....Not in 020
No cta checks? Cause that’s about all I’ll do...
This is from Chief Waller who is married to Crazy Kim in Mass transit, there both dumb as dirt,useless
just like the quota you need to be able to put in for VRI. It’s bullshit. I am filing a lawsuit for all the times I’ve been denied because I didn’t meet the quota for VRI
Name any exempt that did not receive any merit promotions ,
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It’s not a quota. It’s voluntary OT. You don’t have to do it so it isn’t illegal. Know your facts before showing your ignorance.
"I worked in Gang Crimes (the real one 30 years ago)..."
Yea, thanks for fucking everything up so we have a million more rules now.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Looking at the point system I started LOL. This is a sissy system, put together by some empty holster(s). In the TASK FORCE it was arrests only. And here is the summary: Murder-15 points, Robbery, Rape, Burglary, Auto Theft, UUW all 10 pointers. Narc arrests usually dealt with quantity. So lets say you grab a hot car with four assholes, 40 points. You hunted because you liked to, and if you were highest in your squad, you worked in plain cloths, got early ducks, and sneak Furloughs. If you got a gun, depending on your Sgt. you would be done with your tour. The Sgt. ran the unit, and the Lt. made sure the CR's were unfounded or Not sustained. Life was good and we had a ton of fun.
6/20/2018 09:39:00 AM
It's never going back to the good old days, but can it get any worse then it is with these no balls merit bosses.
They didn't rescind it, they're just revising it. They forgot to include bus checks!
How do the Sgts get away with no work? Shouldn’t they have to work for their OT too? Might I propose:
1 point for every bullshit mission executed by your POs (3 if you are a merit Sgt)
3 points for every unnecessary spar (5 if you are a merit Sgt)
5 points for every cr taken (20 if you are a merit Sgt)
10 points if you can convince your POs to come in with ISRs (50 if you are merit)
This will ensure you will only have the best and brightest Sgts doing OT.
I'm so f---ing glad I retired in 03 after 30 yrs. I feel so bad for the currents that can't be real the police!
PPOs "coming off of their status" in 018 are required to attend a "meeting," in which they are pressured, and told to "come in with activity," meaning ISRs and ANOVs, in order to "stay in 018," and stay on the watch that they desire. This has been going on regarding PPOs in 018 for several years now. I personally tell PPOs in 018: "Do not stop people and come in with ISRs, just for the sake of ISR activity, with WEAK reasonable suspicion to stop a citizen. ISRs are not only reviewed by the CPD Integrity Unit at Headquarters, they are also subject to review by a retired federal judge and the ACLU."
I have 20 years in seniority. I am a member of the KMA Club. If the bosses in CPD and in 018 don't like my post, TOO BAD.
The bosses in CPD Headquarters (and 018) created the BAD SITUATION where they demanded more and more CONTACT CARDS. The bosses' demand for unreasonable contact-card activity resulted in a law suit against the City of Chicago, which SUCCESSFULLY ended the Contact Card Data Base System. Now that Illinois State Statute demands a detailed report (ISR) of every street-stop, every report now involves LEGAL LIABILITY for the reporting officers, and yet, the Bosses of CPD demand more and more ISR activity, to compensate for the fact that the "easy" contact-cards can no longer be generated, because the Contact Card system was so totally corrupt, that it was ended and destroyed by a JUSTIFIABLE LAWSUIT.
When, oh when, will the upper management of the Chicago Police Department be staffed by men and women with HONOR, INTERGRITY, AND GOODNESS, who will personally PUT A STOP TO THIS "QUOTA" MADNESS?
NOW, these same bosses want to make the State-Mandated ISR Data Base a corruption-based system where people are stopped/profiled just to end their tour of duty with "ISR numbers."
THIS INSANITY HAS TO STOP," and it needs to STOP NOW.
I am protected from any harm from the Department, because I am publicly posting this Comment under the Illinois State Statute regarding "Whistleblower" rights.
I already have an attorney on retention. I am not afraid of the CPD bosses. If any member of the CPD dares attempt to punish me for publishing the TRUTH in the PUBLIC INTEREST, bring it on, I will see you in court!
Just remember that the Chief of Patrol who approved this was a merit LT for about 30 days before they made him a Cmdr. Think about that.
Ok big deal. They ask you for a little bit of activity. You can not tell me that in a typical eight hour tour an officer can't write a few parkers, movers or blue cards. Not to mention an anov or isr if available. In the mean time, some of you will continue bitching how some people in society are takers and don't work while you bring in zero activity across the board every night.
Oh wait...you must be a watch secretary or the front office house mouse! Love to see your activity sheet. Sleeping doesnt get you points!
Anonymous said...
Ok big deal. They ask you for a little bit of activity. You can not tell me that in a typical eight hour tour an officer can't write a few parkers, movers or blue cards. Not to mention an anov or isr if available. In the mean time, some of you will continue bitching how some people in society are takers and don't work while you bring in zero activity across the board every night.
6/20/2018 10:47:00 AM
Says a Hillary voter.
How Lt. rain drops working out for you in 07
just like the quota you need to be able to put in for VRI. It’s bullshit. I am filing a lawsuit for all the times I’ve been denied because I didn’t meet the quota for VRI
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I believe this was already tried and the courts ruled that activity can be required and considered for assignment to voluntary overtime. That's why there's still a quota for vri.
RH
6/21/2018 02:07:00 AM
Nice post! Glad to see a PO with a set of brass balls. Like they say, when your right, fight the fight.
The problem with quota promotions is that after a test is given and scored the quota picks come from the back of the list not the front. If anyone thinks that quotas are equall to list promotions they are sadly mistaken. The people of Chicago are being cheated and not getting the best for the position.
Anonymous said...
It’s not a quota. It’s voluntary OT. You don’t have to do it so it isn’t illegal. Know your facts before showing your ignorance.
6/20/2018 10:50:00 PM
Talk about ignorance. OT is in big demand and most officers will do anything to earn OT. Hence the pressure for activity. This "voluntary pressure" will result in weak rationale for a ISR. I will admit it is hard to patrol for 8 hrs and see nothing but the desire for OT will push them to improper judgement. There has to be other methods for management to lead officers while on the street. Pressure and threats never are successful. Why repeat the past under McCarthy.
What about "positive community interaction"? I think they should be worth something.
I work inside. How many points do I get for making the coffee?
Probably 1000 if your attractive and wear tight jeans
FOP. Do your job , exempts are hiding full duty police officers inside at the expense ,safety of Police Officers working the street .
PBPA Do your job , patrol division is short and sergeants for years have been assigned to clerical duties at police headquarters , Homan Square while districts have two supervisors patroling three sectors .
Wake up .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
just like the quota you need to be able to put in for VRI. It’s bullshit. I am filing a lawsuit for all the times I’ve been denied because I didn’t meet the quota for VRI
Quit telling the blog and go file your lawsuit. Why did you wait so long to file your lawsuit for all those times
6/20/2018 10:08:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why stop at the Hunch lab spots, how about all the CAPS spots, the Commander's comp stat spots, secretary spots...All inside spots should be by bid.
They won’t let that happen. How would they get their favorites with no time on the job inside, some right off probation
You are right my friend. Chief of Patrol was a merit Lt for a period before making commander. Destruction of the CPD. In all my years on I have never seen it so bad at the top.
Nice post Officer Stevens. I totally agree and it is the truth.
"I worked in Gang Crimes (the real one 30 years ago)..."
Yea, thanks for fucking everything up so we have a million more rules now.
6/20/2018 10:56:00 PM
Those million, plus another couple mil, still wouldn't be enough to keep you from sitting on your own johnson, and cutting a wet fart not more than a microsecond thereafter.
It’s not a quota. It’s voluntary OT. You don’t have to do it so it isn’t illegal. Know your facts before showing your ignorance.
6/20/2018 10:50:00 PM
So, incentivizing a quota makes it not a quota?
And, being not a quota, it does not induce the very thing thst quotas are known for inducing?
Management by the boss from the Dilbert cartoon.
OT
This years Puerto Rican Fest was the first time they charged a $2 donation at the gate. They claimed that the money was earmarked for the Hurricane Maria recovery effort. Low and behold, four days after the Fest is over the President of The Puerto Rican Parade Committee went into the 14th District desk to report that "up to $70,000" was stolen from the donation boxes. He's claiming that security was responsible for the theft. Sorry Hurricane Maria survivors, maybe next year.
6/20/2018 08:41:00 PM
Well.....this is the County of Crooks........
What’s zero times zero?
6/20/2018 06:32:00 AM
If my math is correct,3.
6/20/2018 08:00:00 PM
The magical, mystical, bewildering power of the number 3.
No wonder the human body has not one, single, identifiable, discernable organ numbering 3 of.
Humanity is so mundane.
First of all the lieutenant from 014 retired as Cmdr. David Sobczyk of the 024th Dist. No "Son of Copernicus" was Sobczyk and he would have been fired while in the academy if his clout, either Rostenkowski, Lechowicz, or both, hadn't stepped in after a serious DUI near Wellington and Cicero. This is the same Sobczyk who ran over an elderly woman, killing her, en route to a "hot call". His Illinois D/L was expired at the time of the fatal on-duty accident, too boot! And he never took a day...
A similar system was put in place over thirty years ago by Joe "Patrolman Joe" McCarthy while he was a Deputy Chief. It was good in theory; however, flaws in the point system awarded higher points for arresting a dentist holding a glass of beer in front of the Chicago Stadium after a sporting event than were given for an arrest for UUW/Handgun. You can still find the proffer from the civil rights case on-line.
So a small group of us white-shrts are sitting around before roll call bewildered and laughing about the brain trust that designed and announced this initiative only to recall the order minutes later. Uh, it wasn't any white shirts in the districts. Ah, once again affirmative actions finest hour!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Chief of patrol sent it out. And rescinded it. Wonder if he ever passed a test? Wonder what brain made him take it down?
6/20/2018 07:17:00 AM
No he never did pass a test. In fact, all 6 (that's SIX) of our chiefs were all meritorius lieutenants. How could that be possible? Oh yah, Chicago. That is the norm. And we wonder why we are so f---ed up.
To 6/21/2018 02:07:00 AM
This is how everyone of us should be. I don’t care if you put me to midnights, split me from my partner, hide me in a storage room, assign me every detail. I don’t care about anything except my paycheck and retirement.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Ok big deal. They ask you for a little bit of activity. You can not tell me that in a typical eight hour tour an officer can't write a few parkers, movers or blue cards. Not to mention an anov or isr if available. In the mean time, some of you will continue bitching how some people in society are takers and don't work while you bring in zero activity across the board every night.
6/20/2018 10:47:00 AM
...says the white shirt who brings in zeros every night. Oh, and probably works an abbreviated tour. Gfy.
Anonymous said...
Ok big deal. They ask you for a little bit of activity. You can not tell me that in a typical eight hour tour an officer can't write a few parkers, movers or blue cards. Not to mention an anov or isr if available. In the mean time, some of you will continue bitching how some people in society are takers and don't work while you bring in zero activity across the board every night.
Oh wait...you must be a watch secretary or the front office house mouse! Love to see your activity sheet. Sleeping doesnt get you points!
6/21/2018 04:38:00 AM
I ll bet you an overtime check that you have never had his numbers, his recognition or the respect of his peers
I'm out of patrol now. They used to count bus checks and curfews...I worked with a fellow who claimed to be leading the watch in bus checks...
Just remember, everything around here is legitimate...
Anytime they count any activity and reward the ones with the most, there will be a tactical team at the top of the list....
Anonymous said...
Name any exempt that did not receive any merit promotions ,
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2.
3.
4.
6/20/2018 10:40:00 PM
I personally know of 2
Thank you for whomever took the photo and to SSC for posting it for the everyone to see. And I quote the wicked witch of the east “what a, what a world!”
Great post from the P.O. from 018. I commend you for looking out for the newer officers in your district. Hopefully, they and other hard chargers will heed your advice. The truth shall set you free!
Anonymous said...
Name any exempt that did not receive any merit promotions ,
1. Deenihan
2. Godsel
3. Loughran
4. Darlin
5. Chung
6. Looney
7. Konow
8. Kennedy
9. O’Shea
10. Devereax
Pontecore?
Moss?
I’m sure there are more...
6/20/2018 10:40:00 PM
I personally know of 2
I am protected from any harm from the Department, because I am publicly posting this Comment under the Illinois State Statute regarding "Whistleblower" rights.
I already have an attorney on retention. I am not afraid of the CPD bosses. If any member of the CPD dares attempt to punish me for publishing the TRUTH in the PUBLIC INTEREST, bring it on, I will see you in court!
6/21/2018 02:07:00 AM
I know and worked with Randy for several years. I agree with everything he posted, but he is missing a key point. Randy is an excellent police officer. He got that way by working and answering calls and stopping people who deserved to be stopped. He arrested those that earned it and stopped the cars that deserved tickets. I watched him inventory 100 purses from a counterfeit sales call by himself. No complaining, he didn't blow stuff off. We, as a police department, are grooming officers who won't,or even worse, can't do any of the above. Does anyone think a new officer will be able to go an entire career, unable to write a report that will stand up in court? Articulate probable cause? Or reasonable suspicion? I don't think so. What's going to happen that day? Not doing our job doesn't expose us to less risk, make us safer or less likely to be sued. It guarantees we are unprepared when the day comes.
Anonymous said...
The democrat is a mutated form of what was once potentially human.
It can be definitively identified by this observable facet:
The democrat has two, (2), assholes; one located between the twin muscle groups known as buttocks, and the other located just below it's nostrils.
Having two assholes, and, given the nature of the substance which emerges, on a repetative basis, from the asshole, it is not unexpected that the "this" referred to in this article occured.
In fact, the "this" occurs as a matter of the natural, though mutated, function as described.
6/20/2018 05:24:00 PM
I wondered when someone would bring this up. Assholes are in both parties, you just proved that. Use what little pea of a brain you got left and understand the rich of both parties dont give a shot about the poor of both parties. Yes to them you are poor. To the rest of us poor, you are stupid and poor.
I personally know of 2
6/21/2018 06:17:00 PM
It was a trick question! All exempts are merit.
The point system should be put into place and tallied up for all the dbl Merit excempts and see what their weight total is. Ha!
Quotasof arrests ANOV's, movers and Parker's would be an instant defense in court. Itdoes not pass the sniffles test, either. COPA would have to increase staffing as every person files a complaint stating they were charged so an officer could meet his quota. And think of the public relations side, too. Pflakey will be all over that.
How many times was FW made merit?
First of all the lieutenant from 014 retired as Cmdr. David Sobczyk of the 024th Dist. No "Son of Copernicus" was Sobczyk and he would have been fired while in the academy if his clout, either Rostenkowski, Lechowicz, or both, hadn't stepped in after a serious DUI near Wellington and Cicero. This is the same Sobczyk who ran over an elderly woman, killing her, en route to a "hot call". His Illinois D/L was expired at the time of the fatal on-duty accident, too boot! And he never took a day...
Good Ole Dave, the self proclaimed Polish Prince. That lizard face moron would come up with a system like this and show it off to the bosses to make a name for himself.. The problem with this system and people like Dave Sobczyk is that they will have their favorites who will never have to work like everyone else.
I have Zero activity for this week. Does this qualify me for a promotion??? Or an inside job???
I've gone to all the right promotion parties, and retirements, and even played golf with the brass.
I should be in the next promotion class.....
Anonymous said...
Name any exempt that did not receive any merit promotions ,
1. Deenihan
2. Godsel
3. Loughran
4. Darlin
5. Chung
6. Looney
7. Konow
8. Kennedy
9. O’Shea
10. Devereax
Pontecore?
Moss?
I’m sure there are more...
6/20/2018 10:40:00 PM
Kennedy and Georgas had Maurer for a little help with the test.
I wondered when someone would bring this up. Assholes are in both parties, you just proved that. Use what little pea of a brain you got left and understand the rich of both parties dont give a shot about the poor of both parties. Yes to them you are poor. To the rest of us poor, you are stupid and poor.
6/21/2018 11:08:00 PM
So you wondered, did you?
And whilst you were wondering, did you wonder just what you were wondering about?
No, not what you said you were wondering about, that "this" in your "when this would come up."
What would that "this" be?
What could that "this" be?
I need not wonder, nor wander, nor ponder. I know.
That "this" is the self destructing of the democratic party, via the democrats being openly true to their natures.
Now, why, after all these years, nay, decades, multiple, multiple decades, would the political party of thuggery, trickery, skullduggery, connivery, propaganda, socialist totalitarianisms, communistic dictatorships, the historical Anti American, Anti Constitutional, Anti Republic of United States, ever OPENLY, in full public view, be just as they truly are?
MAGA makes them craaaaaaaazy.
As for those feckless, fake republican party career hack fucks, well, they are far less full of the inherent toxicities than the democrats, tho their flavor of toxic is still quite obnoxious.
They, (at least, some), have the capability to adjust their bloated egos, face the realities which MAGA has exposed, and get the fuck out of the way of the train. Sure, they'll try to keep their elite going, the dumb ones, of which there are many, but only the democrats will sit stubbornly on the tracks. Because they're waiting for someone else to give them a hand out.
So, bucko, buck up or suck up.
The demcrats demand you suck up., as do the typical republicans.
MAGA requires both the democrats & republicans to fuck off and get the fuck out of the way.
Now, if you happen to find yourself still stewing, and feel the urge to continue spewing, if the kind blog owners permit, feel free to spew more of your shit.
Quotasof arrests ANOV's, movers and Parker's would be an instant defense in court. Itdoes not pass the sniffles test, either. COPA would have to increase staffing as every person files a complaint stating they were charged so an officer could meet his quota. And think of the public relations side, too. Pflakey will be all over that.
6/22/2018 04:13:00 AM
Perhaps, just perhaps, this is the intent.
After all, the creatures seeking to rule over all have a multiplicity of duplicitous methods.
6/20/2018 07:17:00 AM
No he never did pass a test. In fact, all 6 (that's SIX) of our chiefs were all meritorius lieutenants. How could that be possible? Oh yah, Chicago. That is the norm. And we wonder why we are so f---ed up.
6/21/2018 03:23:00 PM
Why would you be surprised that merit lts get the big spots. They were made merit by the top bosses who decide the exempt spots. If you have a top boss or politician to make you meritorious , he will have the power to make you a DC or chief
I would proudly hit zeros across the board. Whoever came up with this heaping pile of shit idea should get a hobby
what a way to cover up our man power problems and to start a point system will cause a lot of problems for everyone. quantity vs quality and pos will be doing things that will jam them up and their partners for the al mighty vri.... and again by the time they get something up and running the summer will already pass and crime will still be there and districts will be without manpower. the end is near when they started cancelling our days off for holidays....
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