Frisk....and Frisk Again
This mope should have been searched at least three times before hitting County:
- Chicago police are investigating how a Humboldt Park man with a long criminal history got a loaded handgun past officers and into the police station lockup over the weekend.
The .22-caliber handgun was discovered by a cleaner while tidying the holding cell at the police station at 2452 W. Belmont Ave., according to police and Cook County prosecutors.
Authorities said Miguel Acevedo, 38, was picked up by police early Saturday when they discovered him and another man, a documented gang member, “using narcotics” inside a car on the Northwest Side.
Acevedo, who was on parole for a 2017 drug conviction, told officers his name was "Luis Rodriguez" and then "Angel Gonzalez." Police later determined Acevedo's true identity and his status as a parolee. He was arrested and charged with obstructing his identity and a parole violation, authorities said.
Acevedo was processed at the police station on Belmont known as “019 West” and brought to a cell where he was alone, authorities said. Surveillance video caught him hiding the gun, loaded with five rounds, underneath a mattress.
Frisk #1 on the street. Frisk #2 before hitting lockup. Frisk #3 in the lockup. But no one found this gun? Come on people - fetal doesn't mean "stupid," and this was stupid in the extreme.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
75 Comments:
007 had 5 or 6 similar incidents last year alone, young bucks are afraid of getting their hands dirty
This is what happens when you’re not allowed to strip search prisoners... Lucky for all involved this guy didn’t have bad intentions.
Perhaps it was one of the micro single action revolvers stashed in his prison wallet.
They don't perform body cavity searches in lockup.
Some of these .22 pistols can be amazingly tiny.
Well some people in 019 are going to take some serious time and rightfully so. Thank God nobody was killed!
Glad it didn't get used inside.
It's a just good fortune that someone didn't pay with their life for all the ceaseless mistakes by all who had control over the arrestee.
Just plain lucky!
This happened in 017 1st watch about a month ago. Much bigger gun too. Surprised it hasn’t hit the news. Major fuckup
Once a person is under arrest you can do more than a frisk, which is generally an external feel of the garments. Once under arrest, a search incident to arrest is allowable and necessary. This allows for the reach into all pockets and anything in the personal control of the arrestee. Of course, in this climate the law doesn't matter. Police are always wrong because we have been branded a racist, outlaw profession, so it's amazing these arrests are still being made at all.
You'd have to do more than a frisk to find a gun buried where the "sun don't shine".
5 shot .22 is probably a North American Arms revolver, which could have been in a bodily orifice.
IAD needs to take ANY case that a cop failed to search a prisioneer multiple times and was later found to be armed during the entire process, with the highest scrutiny possible. IAD should hand out massive time for this. Mistakes(incompetence) like this could have ended up being a terrible story on the national news! IAD should review every minute of video from the first custodial search all the way through. This is the most dangerous type of mistake a police officer can make. I feel any cop that fucks up like this should be stripped and sit and think about what they did during the investigation. They placed a lot of cops in danger. No excuse to miss a gun. Ever!
A mattress? Since when do they get mattresses? This ain't the God Father!
Any cop that allows something so dangerous as missing a gun on a person in their custody, should feel the full weight of the discipline process. The brass should be fuming and instruct IAD to drop the hammer. The thought of a prisoner being armed in the processing room, while cops have their guns locked away, is frightening! This is the most serious type of mistake a police officer can make.
If you discover one, you might find a second one. I got a hat trick once.
SCC...There’s an even scarier story with a missed gun in 017 just recently.
Just plain reckless for everybody!
Search these animals!
My question is will there be any punishment administered to the officers or will this be an "oh well live and learn" moment? Someone's ass should sanctioned big time because innocent officers could have been killed if jagoff decided he was going to go postal. What a complete fuck-up this could have been. Someone should be suspended for at least 7-14 days just on principle.
Same last names as Officers I work with wonder why search warrants turn up nothing?
Yep... and officers in lockup aren’t allowed to carry guns in lockup. That could’ve gotten very ugly real quick.
This happened in 19 east a couple months ago.
Lest not forget the lock up keepers who also search prisoners missed this as well. No beuno on all fromts!
go back to strip searches
It was a tiny 22 which this fat ass stuck up his ass.. if you watch the video you will see took a few minutes to retrieve up his ass.. thank god nobody was hurt but when is the last time you checked some fat guys asshole for a gun
Did the custodian get an honorable mention for getting a gun?
Some can hide them quite well. Had a female in 025 with a 38 snubby (all the way in) inside her pussy years back. Once at lock up she complained about pains.
Guess the city should buy some of those metal detecting wands like other departments have..
Could this guy have gotten over President The Donald 's wall?
"tidying up the cell"?
WTF? Is this when the cleaner puts the mint on the pillow and turns down the cover?
Test the weapon for fecal matter. If positive, not the coppers fault.
Our intake needs to be like counties, full strip search including body cavities.
Can't restrict search and then hammer people when following a flawed policy results in failure.
Just remember what happened to BW years ago when he failed to search his prisoner.
Milwaukee man forgot he had gun, fired it accidentally inside squad car, charges say
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2018/06/15/charges-mans-gun-fired-inside-milwaukee-county-sheriffs-squad-car/706717002/
I missed one many years ago, a crotched gun. The guys were pissed and rightfully so.
In the ensuing years I grabbed a lot of crotches, I didn't give a shit I wasn't going to ever let a weapon make it back to lock up again. I put gloves on, took my time, and searched every part of these disgusting assholes.
You just got to check under the nut sac!!!
All the idiots calling for the coppers to take time, when was the last time you dog asses even did an arrest let alone perform a custodial search? This fat fuck had that gun up his ass, we cant strip search nor do cavity searches so stfu armchair quarterbacks.
It is not the first time that an arrestee made it to the station, handcuffed and searched but with a handgun on his person. I have seen lock-up keepers find the weapons when they patted down upon entry. But, this is the first time, to my knowledge, that a lockep keeper missed a weapon on top of everyone else.
Happens too often. I've witnessed some pretty pathetic putdowns that would miss a bowling ball in the pants. Custodial searches should be much more thorough and invasive but often are not. Cops are afraid of putting hands on people. Add black if training and leadership and you wind up with situations like this one. Lucky break but the next one might turn into a tragedy.
To the super hero that said “ I got a hat trick once “ , quit being such a blowhard . No one cares and further , did you really? Dork.
Back to the drawing board. Now the training division needs to enhance searching protocol and a new bulletin.dont just blame one copper,his partner and lockup need to go down on this too. They botch you out if they find a bag of dope on a person in the lockup. I'm just wondering how they missed this. I bet the butt area or somebody didnt search the private area. We once had a female who was trying to dispose of her 25 auto while pretending to go pee.up her snatch.
The guy was fighting the entire time, all the way to the cell. I've been there and I can understand it. However, that should really be a clue that he doesn't want to be searched, or does not want to go back to jail for a number of reasons. For the new guys: they might be fighting for a reason...
If he had it lodged in the back door orifice, wouldn't it have been revealed by the wand?
I've been retired awhile.
When did the lockup get a mattress?
Ugh...that could of gotten ugly.Not to be a
monday morning quarterback but shit how did that
get by so many officers.Count your blessings everyone
Three problems:
1. There is a big difference between frisk and search.
We should never frisk. We should search.
A proper search is a legal sexual assault.
2. Young coppers are afraid to touch someone.
They are afraid to GRAB down there.
They are afraid to get into trouble.
3. Nowadays the bad guys usually carry big guns, large frame
9mm and 45s. The old Saturday Night Special (clerke) in 22 or
25 cal are rare. Hard to look for something you have never seen.
4. PPOs are being trained by people just off probation.
They maybe book smart but don't know procedures.
The old drunken wagon men of the '70s knew how to search.
When they found a gun or dope they knew how to embarrass you
for weeks. You learned. Most would show you how to search.
If you missed money, you never knew about it. ;-)
That also happened in 016 a few weeks ago , juvy did an armed robbery and had a 25 on him in his underwear, but good thing p.o found it when he was searched again in the process area , it was missed on the search at the scene though
Maybe leaving the gun on them and watching them on camera toss the gun is the only way we can get charges approve on gun now . 90% of the time states not charging anyone anymore then they wonder why the gun violence continues
Shit happens it’s a small .22 unless your grabbing each ball sack and bussing cheeks open could be easily missed stfu and keep it moving this is not even a police department anymore and we are not the police if u think u are your a fool . U got people recording us watching us leave work recording our plates/vehicles and what time we leave and no boss dares to do anything because they are in there rights to put our life’s in jeopardy
Don’t they have those security wand scanners anymore? Did the gun have signs of being in a body cavity? Where that senecio could have played out is scary. Sorry guys but I think 30 days will help you improve your body searching skills.
Trust me this wasn’t the first time this has happened. Probably happens more often than you think and how many suspects were in a squad and released without finding the gun or I imagine in other cases were placed in the lockup and later released on bond taking the gun with him.
I am surprised tho how quickly other po’s want to throw these po’s under the bus. Not saying they shouldn’t be disciplined and that a tragedy could have occurred also with the new group of PPO’s being hired, it doesn’t surprise me
Anonymous said...
You'd have to do more than a frisk to find a gun buried where the "sun don't shine".
6/19/2018 12:50:00 AM
Like a "flower in bloom", right Val???
They have metal detector wands. No one used it.
Here a thought...
Why not take a few funds from the CAPS community nonsense budget and buy metal detector wands for the Districts and the Lockups.
These devices are under $100 each and probably DHS/TSA has loads of them no longer being used and likely destined for salvage auction.
Too much to ask for from the city.
$100 only gets 2 hr rental for a inflatable block party jungle gym.
$100 buys COPA a half box of community announce flyers.
$100 supllies (not buys) 10 feral homeless freeloaders with Sanctuary ID’s.
Penalties for that infraction will save the city thousands.
The parolee goes on paroling unscathed again.
This is because the Lockup aid at 019 does not do his job. He is never even in the Lockup he's sitting at the desk with the desk crew all night? Yes the desk sgt. lets this happen. Most of the time he doesn't even go back to help process a prisoner. He does whatever he wants and when you bring in a prisoner he gets all mad he might just have to leave sitting at the desk and go back to lockup to do his job.
What a joke. No supervision with these guys whatsoever.
And this is when he is even there, he seems to take off must every weekend. Anytime he wants too.
Airports have big metal detectors and body scanners for people who haven't been suspected of any crime to pass through to make sure they aren't carrying weapons. Police stations have the hands and eyes of a few people to make sure that people suspected of violent crimes, often involving guns and knives, aren't carrying weapons. Lockup has those cute little handheld metal detectors, but it's too late once they get back there. We should have some of this fancy technology where it's needed, at police stations. I know it's "too expensive." Actually securing our stations with locking doors, walls that aren't made of huge panes of glass, secure parking facilities, and a policy that doesn't allow any and everyone to come and go as they please would be nice as well. But it all costs money, and it would send the wrong message to "the community." So the safety of the police, and the ability to properly do their job, comes second. This city will never spend the money to properly equip and protect its police, so it's up to us. We need to do better searches. Homeless people carry knives and razor blades. Just because it's "just a shoplifter" doesn't mean he can't kill you or someone else. I don't care how dirty he is. Put some gloves on and do your job. When arresting gang members, you should always do a thorough search. These people are violent criminals who don't like you, and you're taking away their freedom. Do you think they won't hurt or kill you if given the chance? Protect yourselves and your fellow officers. We could also use better training on custodial searches. Make everyone do it over and over in the academy, especially the snowflakes who get all uncomfortable with touching certain areas. Force them to do it right or they don't pass. Tapping someone's pockets and shaking their pant legs isn't a custodial search. Saying "Empty your pockets" isn't the same as you actually going through those pockets. Take their socks and shoes and you search them. Use gloves and do the search instead of having the arrestee be in control. If someone gets hurt or killed, including your arrestee, because you missed a weapon in your search, that's on you. The discipline and lawsuits won't be fun.
This guy was a big dude (i.e. Fat ass) he cheeked the gun the whole time. Unfortunately we aren't able to get up in there anymore and check for guns, dope , knives etc. this is what happens when you keep taking away the ability for police to be the police. Think about how many gang bangers have a gun on them while talking to the police on a stop because there was no RAS for the pat down. It's scary and that's why I'm leaving (retiring) by the end of the year.
He was turning his life around to bad ICE didn't get him !
Why the fuck to the prisoners at 019 West have mattresses??? Can we coddle these fuckers any more? Maybe start feeding them a 5 course dinner and orange juice and eggs for breakfast? Such bullshit!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All the idiots calling for the coppers to take time, when was the last time you dog asses even did an arrest let alone perform a custodial search? This fat fuck had that gun up his ass, we cant strip search nor do cavity searches so stfu armchair quarte
Glad someone else sees it like I do. If you make a lot of arrests shit can happen, pardon the pun. Fat slob has spaces to his 22 should have found it, but it happens more than you think. Seems the new police are more than happy to throw these guys to the dogs, demanding heavy suspensions
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the super hero that said “ I got a hat trick once “ , quit being such a blowhard . No one cares and further , did you really? Dork.
6/19/2018 08:04:00 AM
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Yes, Dork, I did find 3 guns on a guy once. Not bragging; just making a point.
You gotta get a name change. Maybe start calling yourself asshole, instead of signing off with Dork.
Think about all the guns over the years that made it pass all the levels, and there certainly were more than few over the years, dude just standing there in front of the judge prosecutor and victim armed while your weapon is locked in a locker.
I once recovered a .22 derringer 2 shot pistol. Fits into the palm of your hand. Looked like a toy. Easily would fit in a wide rectum or by your balls. Tiny with no trigger guard. My guy tossed it . I was lucky. So beware!
Anonymous said...
It was a tiny 22 which this fat ass stuck up his ass.. if you watch the video you will see took a few minutes to retrieve up his ass.. thank god nobody was hurt but when is the last time you checked some fat guys asshole for a gun
6/19/2018 06:16:00 AM
Rahm does it to special Ed every morning to check for a FBI wire, but he uses his pinky finger...
6/19/2018 02:06:00 PM
Hopefully the lockup keepers and po’s working that case get a couple of days, you should get a couple of days just for being a cry baby
This is bullshit. You put other cops at risk of death or serious bodily injury because you're too lazy to do a proper search.
Reminds me of the time many years ago when I met one of the officers on my department in the courthouse parking lot as he was transporting a prisoner to a bond hearing. I noticed that the prisoner wan't cuffed and was smoking a cigarette. I asked the officer why the prisoner wasn't cuffed and he said, "Sarge, he's a nice guy". Freaking idiot.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is bullshit. You put other cops at risk of death or serious bodily injury because you're too lazy to do a proper search.
Reminds me of the time many years ago when I met one of the officers on my department in the courthouse parking lot as he was transporting a prisoner to a bond hearing. I noticed that the prisoner wan't cuffed and was smoking a cigarette. I asked the officer why the prisoner wasn't cuffed and he said, "Sarge, he's a nice guy". Freaking idiot.
6/19/2018 09:07:00 PM
And Sarge you did what again? no action your just another part of the problem! are you merit?
The guy was fighting the entire time, all the way to the cell. I've been there and I can understand it. However, that should really be a clue that he doesn't want to be searched, or does not want to go back to jail for a number of reasons. For the new guys: they might be fighting for a reason...
6/19/2018 08:37:00 AM
Yeah, anytime this happens, I tell myself “get your hand up his ass! The truth is buried in his butthole.” Last I checked, isn’t there some silly GO stating that only medical personnel can perform a body cavity search? Isn’t there another silly GO that requires higher-up approval for even a strip search? Lucky for me no one ever resisted arrest the whole way though. I am shocked and never heard of such arrestee behavior in Chicago.
This would never happen in 025. No janitor would find a gun in a cell. Because the janitors don't clean the cells!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here a thought...
Why not take a few funds from the CAPS community nonsense budget and buy metal detector wands for the Districts and the Lockups.
These devices are under $100 each and probably DHS/TSA has loads of them no longer being used and likely destined for salvage auction.
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All the districts were issued them but they're probably sitting in a box somewhere or have dead batteries.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the super hero that said “ I got a hat trick once “ , quit being such a blowhard . No one cares and further , did you really? Dork.
6/19/2018 08:04:00 AM
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Yes, Dork, I did find 3 guns on a guy once. Not bragging; just making a point.
You gotta get a name change. Maybe start calling yourself asshole, instead of signing off with Dork.
6/19/2018 04:58:00 PM
You are a complete hand-job.
Signed
Not Even The OP
frisk me baby, one more time
I am reading a lot of these comments, and missing a gun is a bad thing, but many coppers don't search prisoners the way they should. I don't know now that a metal detector wand would help, and they won't buy those scanners they have in airports. Also, would it detective a gun in someone's rectum or vagina or behind the testicles. I was always taught to search someone, even if they have been searched. And I have almost missed a gun, it was in an ankle holster, luckily I saw it before he got to lockup. I have found crack pipes, dope, and other things others have missed. But I have missed cell phones on prisoners too. And I have heard many times, female officers cannot search male offenders. The next time I hear it, I will tell the male supervisor to search this prisoner or write me up. I don't want that of course, but I could not live with myself if a gun or knife was missed on one of my arrestees.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Any cop that allows something so dangerous as missing a gun on a person in their custody, should feel the full weight of the discipline process. The brass should be fuming and instruct IAD to drop the hammer. The thought of a prisoner being armed in the processing room, while cops have their guns locked away, is frightening! This is the most serious type of mistake a police officer can make.
Not saying this was not a terrible mistake, but it happens. We need to come up with a better policy, and figure out how to search without getting into trouble for strip search, without authorization, read the order, in a day when many supervisors don't want to make decisions.
I am reading a lot of these comments, and missing a gun is a bad thing, but many coppers don't search prisoners the way they should. I don't know now that a metal detector wand would help, and they won't buy those scanners they have in airports. Also, would it detective a gun in someone's rectum or vagina or behind the testicles. I was always taught to search someone, even if they have been searched. And I have almost missed a gun, it was in an ankle holster, luckily I saw it before he got to lockup. I have found crack pipes, dope, and other things others have missed. But I have missed cell phones on prisoners too. And I have heard many times, female officers cannot search male offenders. The next time I hear it, I will tell the male supervisor to search this prisoner or write me up. I don't want that of course, but I could not live with myself if a gun or knife was missed on one of my arrestees.
6/20/2018 05:38:00 PM
You're going to tell a supervisor to search your prisoner? Good luck with that. You might get taken up on the "write me up" part of your fantasy though.
Thankful that no1 got hurt ! We are in this together at the end of the day
Most of these assholes, actually probably all of them, with the know it all comments probably couldn't even fill the boxes of an arrest report they are so Lazy.
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