Well Look At This
What was it we were saying not too long ago? Rahm lies? Constantly? And wastes hundred of millions on a project that no one will use? Proof again:
- “If you build it, they will come” is often accepted as sage advice. But this hasn’t exactly been the case for DePaul University’s Wintrust Arena. Attendance to the arena, which was financed in part by taxpayers, has trailed the projections officials touted in advance of its construction.
In addition to hosting university basketball games, Wintrust Arena is home to the Chicago Sky and serves as a venue for concerts and other events. The Metropolitan Pier and Exposition Authority, or MPEA, commissioned HVS, a New York-based consulting firm, to conduct a 2013 feasibility study on the McCormick Place Entertainment District, a development project that included the new DePaul University arena. Despite attendance for DePaul men’s basketball games having previously hovered below 3,000 per game, HVS projected the 10,000-seat Wintrust Arena would draw an average of 9,500 people per game. A February 2017 economic impact report by MPEA eyed an average attendance of 9,000 for Wintrust Arena games and events.
But MPEA documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act show Wintrust Arena events falling far short of these estimates. Men’s basketball games, for example, have drawn an average of only 3,142 fans per game, trailing HVS and MPEA projections by 67 percent and 65 percent, respectively.
And taxpayers are on the hook again. Anyone see this in the Tribune? Slum Times? Maybe a broadcast network or two?
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
82 Comments:
The people who live and work in Chicago are going broke.
Rahm should be decaying alive
in a USBOP cell...
Yea just like the underground transit station built under block 37 that is the size of two football fields and after they built it they found out they couldn't connect it with the existing system. Taxpayers fleeced again. Daley and everyone else involved should be in federal prison. At least use it for a Disneyland for the homeless.
Most of the Chicagoans that vote are uneducated ignorant libtards. That’s why Chicago, Cook County, and The State of Illinois have the most corrupt politicians in the country. The “system” here is completely rigged. Politicians win...taxpayers lose and there is absolutely nothing citizens can do about it but move.
Left over Olympic money. Nothing to see here.
How about 2 crime scenes with multiple shot (4+ each). Thanks Tiny Dancer! Giving the city away, one ghetto lottery at a time.
How's your Trump free city working out? New car jacking laws, and task force, pfffftt.
Sounds good on the news, once again, you baffle them with bullshit.
TaDa Tiny Dancer!!!
After he gets splattered, his followers will want the name of the Ryan changed to the Pfleger. No more the effin Ryan gave me a headache. It will be the effin Pfleger sux!! Appropriate!
Again this shows Emmanuel IS UNQUALIFIED to lead.
No strategy to stop the shootings, no strategy for urban leadership.
He has personally ruined a once Great city.
Anybody BUT Emmanuel.
Found out that Kris Paranto and Boon are in Chicago this week and doing a book signing at Dsarms in Barrington, some P.Os are doing a shooting class with them in Chicago, anyone know about this or is it secret squirrel stuff again. Found the class listed but no sign up instructions, is this a department class?
Better start being the WWE and Monster Truck rallies if you want to fill those seats..
Typical quid-pro-quo Machine politics. -and the taxPAYERS lose.
http://admin.americanthinker.com/images/bucket/2018-06/207140_5_.png
And the winner is........
@ the "Anonymous" asking about Kris Paronto & Boon. Their classes are open to the public. You can register at this link:
http://www.kristantoparonto.com/events?page=1
Im just counting the days when I can get the fuck out of this city...we are the laughing stock around the country! No other city is as fucked up as we are...and you are completely right....we have nothing but ignorant uneducated libtards that believe everything they hear..now we have parents and schools brainwashing the kids into voting democrat...to chicago and its residents....."RIP"
palms greased...envelopes delivered...it's for the children
2019...ANYONE BUT RAHM!
That was my TIF money. And I just got my tax bill. Fuck you, Rahm.
And you have Deputy Chief S.G. Running the security there. Events with several thousand people and having SWAT and 50 other P.O.s assigned there for every event. Total waste of man power.
Rosemont had the gall to try and get the Cubs so Rahm had to show them who’s boss with our money.
Another example of the lil shit using the money saved from canceling my Health Insurance in 2017. It has all been said before, but I just like the way it all sounds. There is a special place in HELL for the TINY DANCER. Giving the city away, one ghetto lottery at a time. Anybody BUT Emmanuel. Anybody BUT Emmanuel. Anybody BUT Emmanuel. Anybody BUT Emmanuel.
The Police/Fire Academy is another boondoogle for Rahm's supporters. Do you think Rahm is builting it for us?
Rahm Emanuel America's #1 buffoon......
How can I hop on this gravy train?
it the tickets were free, i wouldnt go.
you would have to pay 25 bux for parking, 5 bux for a hotdog, 10 bux for a beer.
no thank you rahm, stick it where the sun doesnt shine
might as well use it for a migrant camp
after all, we are a sanctuary city
come one come all, everything in chicago is free
They get 6,000 to 8,000 for Bradley basketball in Peoria. Nobody cares about college basketball in Chicago. Loyola has a small gym, doesn't get attendance either. UIC has a big building, no team to draw.
Fucked by Rahm again.
When will the Sheeple have had enough?
Thank about this headline at least we’re not sure but at least six people a complete six pack plus a few extra 40 ounce oz shot:
At least 6 shot in park on South Side: 'It was real close'
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-mulitple-people-shot-south-side-20180626-story.html
So now so many people are being shot the blood shed is everywhere they cannot even give an accurate account of how many people are shocked, because they’re finding so-called victims and or offenders bleeding everywhere. They were bragging about the University of Chicago hospital openings about how great it was for the neighborhood, I will agree it is a great thing taking some of the savage people that are causing this out of the hospitals like Northwestern and Christ hospital in Oaklawn. You can bet that people are meeting probably at this very moment in the meeting rooms at University of Chicago hospital and asking who is the crazy ass that wanted to spend hundreds of millions of dollars open up this trauma unit and knowing that we would make absolutely zero money Champion for this to be open? Wonder if the Obamas push through this since Michelle work here making well over $300,000 a year, then it soon as she went to The White House and accomplish nothing the job where is rapidly closed!
No shit, what did everyone think was going to happen. The stadium is out of pocket compared to other venues in the City.
The Chicago media is the lapdog for Rahm who himself is a lying sniveling conniving piece of shit. If you want to know the truth about what’s going on in Chicago, absolutely do not listen to local media. They conveniently alter information and facts to try to make you think like them. Taxpayers continue to lose in Illinois, Cook County and Chicago. Chicago is screwed. Vallas is probably the lesser of all mayoral candidates though. As for Illinois as a whole, wtf! JB Pritzker is a prototypical machine Democrat candidate. Illinois will further suffer with that radical Obama-esque slob. He is so incredibly fake and will do nothing to better Illinois. Illinois needs Trump oversight at this point. God help Illinois.
What is REALLY wrong with all these voters? Are they really that stupid? And if so, how did they make it this far in life without getting hit by a car crossing the street? What a sorry state of affairs.
When Rahm and Madigan help to finance the library edifice to Obama in Jackson Park, in 10 years when they are long gone the fleecing from this project will be written. This shit never ends and that is why I moved out three years ago in order to protect my wealth and retirement from this never ending tax bullshit.
The city is 35 percent Hispanic. They don't watch Big East basketball.
If fat ass prizker wins we are in bigger trouble.
Same with the Obummer Library cost.
Obama library project has gone off the rails in a way that could only happen in the State of Illinois and the City of Chicago. To call what's occurred disturbing understates the bait-and-switch that the Windy City's power brokers are trying to pull.
http://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/editorials/2018-06-24/editorial-another-fast-one-chicago-pols.html
And also look at this bullshit;
Chicago bar bans 'MAGA' hats, face tattoos
http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2018/06/25/chicago-bar-bans-maga-hats-face-tattoos.html
The Replay Lincoln Park bar announced the “strictly enforced” rules over the weekend in a post on their Facebook page.
Just another anti-law and order place not to patronize, just like the places that kick out conservatives like the presidents spokes woman and the head of department of homeland security, this is the United States of America where we respect people correct?
Millennium park and the Soldier field renovations weren't supposed to cost taxpayers either.
And now we learn that the Obama library also billed as zero cost to taxpayers is a lie before they even break ground.
The money is gone spent and forgotten. Rahmie grandstands these cash cows knowing full well they ain't going to bring in any cash. Name one city project that has been successful? As an after thought with all the free money and services de paul receives from the city, did they lower the tuition?
Once DePaul gets good in basketball again the new arena will be filled.
Not this upcoming season or anytime soon.
I spoke to people I know at DePaul about the stadium back when it was a gleam in Rhams eye. They knew back then they would not draw there for games unless the team pulled a Loyola. They knew their students would not be jumping on trains to go see crappy basketball. Will the the firm that did the study be held accountable? Will we ask for a refund or sue because of bad research?
This was done for one reason and one reason only. Free DePaul tuition for the Emmanuel offspring.
Soooooo, the new DePaul Stadium only draws the same 3,000 people as their old arena. Yet the New York outfit Tiny Dancer hired, HVS, was adamant that this White Elephant would draw an amazing 9,500 fans. Gee one could almost think that HVS was pulling a fast one with their original 'estimate' and playing a practical joke on the Nine-Digit-Midget.
After all, only a certified Moron and spittle-drooling FOOL would seriously think that DePaul would all of a sudden start drawing thousands more fans than Basketball Powerhouse colleges like Villanova; 6,000+ fans, and Georgetown; +/-6,500 fans.
Maybe someone better go back and check those meeting notes to see if the HVS Reps were giggling throughout the whole thing -- 'Yeah Mayor, 9,500 Fans per game, we promise, ha-ha-ha.'
Oh well.. on the 'upside', Rahm can always turn the place into an Indoor Go-Kart Track. At least THAT will make money.
But that library, though...
Even that number is likely FAKE!
Is that actual asses in the seats or free tickets given to students?
wAIT TILE THAT Elon musk BOONDOOGLE gets started. Underground super train for 30-50 dollars a ride per person.
TO go to the lovely OHARE Airport... City wants all the vendor contract for cleaning and stores underground.
The same is being done ever so slyly and frequently, on a smaller scale right in front the noses of the taxpayer.
Most recent was the appropriately timed photo-op groundbreaking of the Pennycuff Apartments in the alphabet soup region of Logan Square.
By the way, Tax bills are in the mail and lots and lots of people are going to try to forget how they supported PrickWrinkles re-election.
It’s all in the Affordable Housing Colonization Plan.
Alderthieves Moreno (That’s how we do it in Chicago) and Stick’m Up Burnett padding the deadbeat voter rolls with around a thousand new “affordable” (that’s subidzed in English) apartments ahead of Corrupt Bitter Section8’Arena master plan to extend that Milwaukee Ave Corridor right up to SulerDawg on Devon.
The money these housing developers are putting into buildings is astronomical as the PAC money that goes to City Hall supporters.
Rahm got $50,000 from a weirdo that thinks he can build a safe transit tunnel like in quake ridden L.A.
What do you think developers are envelope dropping for a 80 unit high rise?
Spend,spend,spend.
No jobs, no factories, free just housing.
Build a factory and they will come.
Let people a chance earn a living by punching a time clock building box fans, wheel barrows and electric can openers.
Nooooo, nope-nope-nope, give folks a crack at capitalism and they won’t vote for us Dimocrats.
And Beware if you live in the vicinity of CTA Ohare Blue Line and I90-94 expressways, plan on more section 8 projects for those vacant lots, closed businesses and commercial zones. Don’t let Section8’Arena endorsed wacky loon libtard Hennigan sneak into the 41st Ward.
Dump Rahm. Dump Section8’Arena and every Democrat in between.
The worst part is they fleeced out the original property owners and helped force them into foreclosure by
having the Department of Zoning testify at the bankruptcy hearings that
the “Prairie Blocks” plan for new hotels was not a financially feasible plan for the site,
https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.curbed.com/platform/amp/2011/11/17/10423958/plans-underway-for-prairie-blocks-development-in-south-loop
Of corse they turned around and the took $55 million from taxpayers to build the
Marriott Marquis! That entire MPEA board should be investigated
Of all the candidates for mayor I hear very little/no talk about reducing crime.
If Garry stays in the race, I'm going to vote for him because I think he might get tough on crime - hopefully.
Pot holes, unfunded pensions, out of control crime, bad public schools,tax on everything. I'm out in 19 years. Texas here i come.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Found out that Kris Paranto and Boon are in Chicago this week and doing a book signing at Dsarms in Barrington, some P.Os are doing a shooting class with them in Chicago, anyone know about this or is it secret squirrel stuff again. Found the class listed but no sign up instructions, is this a department class?
6/26/2018 02:05:00 AM
Check the internet. The shooting class is a one day event in Crete, Illinois on Friday. They have a place to register. Not a department class
Unless they gave a super secret one planned. Maybe they are trying to hide it
What moron projected that they’d draw 9,500 for basketball games? The WNBA? LOL!!!
Let’s tske a closer look at the DePaul Blue Demons Men’s basketball program. They haven’t won an NCAA tournament game since the 1989-90 season. Haven’t been to the NCAA tournament since 2004, and have finished last in the Big East 8 of the last 10 sesons. With that type of success I can’t believe their not selling out every game. A stadium built for a private university paid for by tax payers........UnFUCKINbelievable!!!!
Keep reporting the real news SCC. The mainstream media sure as hell are not going to. Is it any wonder that the mainstream media has lost credibility? We should start crowdfunding independent media sources. We need to stop asking mainstream media to do their jobs. Because they won't. If they do not do it, then we will.
Good place to put the Casino that will save our pensions
This stadium was built to get more campaign cash for Rahm, pure and simple. He has allowed the unions, construction workers and developers to run tough shod over this city. He is totally unaccountable and Joe Ferguson let’s him do anything in exchange for his contact. I’m sure his crooked brother will soon be booking acts in that phony stadium as well.
It’s not his money... bet he doesn’t risk his wealth🤔
Burning as much taxpayer treasure as possible...
When it's time to finally settle with The Police and make them
whole for years of being deliberately shit on, Rahm will be able
to shove back from the table, turn his pockets inside-out, shrug,
say The City is broke(en), turn around and drop his tutu and tights
then tell The Police (and everybody who isn't him) to kiss his ass while
the rest of everybody else cheers that "You Cops are finally being put
in your place."
Busted down to the coveted societal hierarchy slot rightfully occupied by
Joe Shit-Head and the Free-Shit Army who are now being uplifted
to the slot formerly occupied by The Police...
And NOBODY with a sizeable enough fuck to give, wants to give it
because, well... We're Cops after all...
We should've expected society would turn it's collective
back because we're too, well... Too...
And thusly, we're condemned as being "The Problem" and are being "Reformed"
until every eye waters and every hand wrings the other.
The War Against The Police is a proxy affair brought to a boil by the former
Cypher-In-Chief known as "Sparkle-Farts."
You knew this nation was in big trouble when Liberal White-Guilt America
creamed their Political Progressive panties over that smooth talking, nation-hating
charlatan with an agenda but we plow no new ground with calling him by his real
and natural name.
Who else was jarred by the dissonance/unequivalence with the scenes of rapturous
weeping in Grant Park on the evening of 04/05 November 2008 and the gleeful
howls, thrown objects, gratuitous gunfire and arsons on the West and South Sides of Chicago?
"If it wasn't on the news then it didn't happen! You angry, conservative, racist Cops need to
stop making shit up and embrace the change that's coming to America."
You're a "Racist" if you took note of that jarring dissonance.
"Something is wrong with the way you think" if you let that dissonance govern and guide you.
You're cast as a "some-kind-of-phobe" in need of the enlightenment of "reform"
since you're not on board with the resulting narration.
"Hope & Change" was NOT for regular, hard working, tax paying suckers...
It was solely directed toward his kindred spirits and fellow travelers.
You know... Those who nurse deep seated grudges and grievances
because they feel they aren't getting what they feel the rest of everybody
else must surely owe them thanks to a corrosive, subversive, nation destroying
false narrative.
Look. Point & Laugh. Leave.
Every single city in the country is infested with bedwetting liberals. Need to found a new, conservative city.
The state buried a quarter billion dollars for the obama library in the state budget too. You can bet your bottom dollar if a quick look found that much there is probably an equal amount hidden better.
nobody cares about college b-ball around here. build a winner they will come. see how fast depaul will cry for the uc or rozemizen if they are able to ever attract some talent.
waiting for the day when this liberal utopia can't borrow another dime.
hey rahm, up your tutued ass.
a most inconvenient place to go attend events and park and expensive.
Anonymous said...
The people who live and work in Chicago are going broke.
6/26/2018 12:20:00 AM
Not as fast as they are going to go broke when JB gets in office and backs Madigan in their progressive income tax. The rates are projected to be between 6.5% and 11%.
Sounds good on the news, once again, you baffle them with bullshit.
Is anyone surprised that merely injecting public money into the equation did not significantly change the number of people going to DePaul BB games?
Found out that Kris Paranto and Boon are in Chicago this week and doing a book signing at Dsarms in Barrington, some P.Os are doing a shooting class with them in Chicago, anyone know about this or is it secret squirrel stuff again. Found the class listed but no sign up instructions, is this a department class?
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their web site suggests it is just a regular class open to anyone that wants to pay.
No strategy to stop the shootings, no strategy for urban leadership.
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Just what would your strategy be? keep in mind things that are constitutionally dubious are now off the table, not that they did any real good anyway.
It will be convention space that supports the city casino when it is built. DePaul basketball is just an cover until the casino is built.
More to look at, this crazy grandpa that hates Trump and the taxpayers shows so much disrespect for everyone calling on disrupting cabinet member's and Trump supporters! Does this cray insane clown know that it is "Un-American" using democrats words to act out like this? Calling for harm and disruptions, would this not be treason? Lock her silly ass up:
WATCH: Laura Loomer Confronts Maxine Waters
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/watch-laura-loomer-confronts-maxine-waters/
She is just like the moronic democrats we have here, she sets the example for rahm,and the rest of the cowards! Think absolutely none of them called out the travesty of justice letting the animal savage killer of 2 CPD officers wilson! Even our pathetic sick looking exempt rank structure who could not qualify to be a clown (Even though many look like them) in the circus, are silent!
Then more crime on the Gold Coast:
Girl hit in face with hammer at Gold Coast McDonald's: 'I’m just lucky, it could have been my eye'
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-hammer-attack-20180626-story.html
But Then the "victim" lol says:
The McDonald’s lady said to (me), ‘Come up next,’’’ Ware said. “Then the lady said: ‘I’m next.’ We’re like, ‘Um, how are you going to be next?’”
Ware said she slipped on something, possibly water on the floor, and fell toward the woman.
“People I didn’t even know were throwing things at her, like chairs and everything in the McDonald’s,’’ Ware said.
*Think maybe "hammer time (are hammers a weapon ban hammers), she was probably tired of the black bullshit,what are the odds this punk girl lied and started with the woman? Slipped on something and fell toward the woman is her lawyer suing McDonald's, or did she attempt to hit the woman and get "hammered" down? Why this is a story is amazing, at least the police were not involved in this bullshit!
Building a New Chicago...
It was never about uic.
Urban leadership is being a decent parent and having a fucking job as well as being a good citizen. Not unemployed a absentee father and a career criminal. Whicj one is prevalent in our fair city?
Can we talk about the new Detectives that have to do loop traffic instead of going to he Areas after graduation? Smoke and mirrors that we have more police.
WTTW's "Chicago Tonight" is more interested in bashing President trump than exposing the corruption actually going on in Chicago tonight!
I rather cheer for Loyola Ramblers!
Depaul abandoned Chicago long ago by playing in Rosemont Horizon and they suck anyway!
Anonymous said...
No strategy to stop the shootings, no strategy for urban leadership.
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Just what would your strategy be? keep in mind things that are constitutionally dubious are now off the table, not that they did any real good anyway.
6/26/2018 01:38:00 PM
Ok genius...
What's YOUR strategy other than the deliberate tying
of The Police in knots in "retaliation" for all the
allegedly constitutionally dubious things that are now
off the table that didn't do any real good anyway?
Huh?
We can't hear you.
All the screams of "Somebody do something"
are drowning you out.
Anonymous said...
It will be convention space that supports the city casino when it is built. DePaul basketball is just an cover until the casino is built.
6/26/2018 01:50:00 PM
They're desperately trying to fix it so that The Police
won't see a penny of any casino revenue.
"YOU'RE broke... WE ain't..."
The same will be said for the Barry O Temple of Love.
For all of you in SCC land and the media please stop referring to it as his Presidential Library. It has been made very clear this will not be the official library and will contain very few documents pertaining to his terms in office.
It will be nothing more than a monument of bro love from 9.5 to Barry O.
Take a look at the "Mess" our leaders have made of Northern Island. I cannot understand why no one ever makes an issue of this. Let's not mention the "Mess' that has been made of our streets. No one asked for our input. What the heck would we know about driving up and down the Streets of Chicago 24hrs. a day 365days a year?
PS: Have a Nice Day ?
SCC, I have one for you and the chaplains to be paid. Cook Sheriff 24/7 court Markham lockup on Friday had an inmate who died in custody. Here is the kicker...……. When the guy died the Sheriff had NO supervisor on duty in the lockup from 7-11pm in effort to save on overtime. They reportedly only had one male officer and the inmates body wasn't found until several hours after he injured himself. Sheriff Dart hasn't hired a court officer for 12 years due to his bloated budget and just paid out a 3.5 million dollar suit in the same facility. Now he probably was trying to save a few hundred bucks working without a supervisor and now will pay out another huge lawsuit. Can you please post this cause officers are fed up being forced to work short even on the lockups and jail.
No No No. More money out of the tax payers pocket
"...And you have Deputy Chief S.G. Running the security there. Events with several thousand people and having SWAT and 50 other P.O.s assigned there for every event. Total waste of man power..."
and why the fck is Georgas assigned there to begin with---just NONSENSE
Thanks for the class info FB had a bad link, got in for the one day class.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"...And you have Deputy Chief S.G. Running the security there. Events with several thousand people and having SWAT and 50 other P.O.s assigned there for every event. Total waste of man power..."
and why the fck is Georgas assigned there to begin with---just NONSENSE
6/26/2018 09:29:00 PM
He gets moved more than a fast a game of checkers, but always to more hidden spots geting boatloads of cash! "Greek lighting"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Take a look at the "Mess" our leaders have made of Northern Island. I cannot understand why no one ever makes an issue of this. Let's not mention the "Mess' that has been made of our streets. No one asked for our input. What the heck would we know about driving up and down the Streets of Chicago 24hrs. a day 365days a year?
PS: Have a Nice Day ?
6/26/2018 07:48:00 PM
True, we go to that beach 12th street once in awhile when they have concerts the public beach which our tax dollars pay for is closed! Why is it closed "the promoters don't want you to listen to the music when you don't pay for it!" we were told! they even take over the metered parking space area for the elite to park! Another of rahms ideas, from the CPS children being sexually abused and raped (is this a democratic its for the children code of silence) notice none of rahms CPS executives were fired guess the children are plausible pawns? to the crime rising,to the missing money, higher taxes, shorted police pension funds,taking away police retirees health care,and so much more!
Take a look at the "Mess" our leaders have made of Northern Island. I cannot understand why no one ever makes an issue of this. Let's not mention the "Mess' that has been made of our streets. No one asked for our input. What the heck would we know about driving up and down the Streets of Chicago 24hrs. a day 365days a year?
PS: Have a Nice Day ?
6/26/2018 07:48:00 PM
What the fuck is Northern island, and what "Mess" are you talking about?
The executives running MPEA are unqualified and are hoodlums.
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