Wednesday, August 29, 2018

Experts

Every expert - you know, people with actual training, certifications and degrees - is wrong, and the "community," which knows everything about everything (but won't ever snitch about anything) doesn't believe the findings:
  • Family members of Steven Rosenthal said Tuesday that Chicago police have shown them body camera recordings of the 15-year-old boy’s run-in with officers earlier this month in Lawndale, but they still aren’t convinced the boy fatally shot himself in the head as authorities have insisted.
This next paragraph is priceless:
  • “The videos are inconclusive. The family has more questions than they do answers,” attorney Andrew Stroth said during a press conference outside Crane High School, where Rosenthal played guard for the boys basketball team.
This is the lawyer who slandered Chicago Police by claiming the autopsy would show cops killed this altar boy quoting Special Ed's famous "more questions than answers" stupidity. And he has a list of demands:
  • Stroth called on police to reveal what prompted the foot chase, to release the names of the officers involved and to describe the weapon they claim — and which the family rejects — Rosenthal was carrying.

    The attorney also said the family has hired an investigator and a doctor whose “analysis did not indicate suicide.” Stroth claims the bullet entered the left side of Rosenthal’s head and exited on the right, which he said raises questions about how the right-handed teen could have turned a gun on himself.

    “We’re not sure exactly what happened,” Stroth said. “But there are eyewitness reports that strongly contradict the narrative given by police.”
And the eyewitnesses, none of whom actually saw anything, have been made available to investigators? Nope, not a single one. We wonder why that is.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

It’s nice to see Father Flaker with the attorney and family. You see Bafoon superintendent this why you don’t participate in political marches with anti police activists

8/29/2018 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Q: What would the family be doing if youngster got shot by another hood rat?

A: Not a fucking thing.

8/29/2018 12:20:00 AM  
Blogger Jack Trumpblood said...

When will this insanity end?

8/29/2018 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, only if the community was so concerned about the young man when he was still alive. Time to play the ghetto lottery.

8/29/2018 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm just do a direct deposit for 5 million and throw in a bait truck too

8/29/2018 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just because one prefers the right hand doesn't mean that their left is devoid of control by the body.... so it's entirely possible that the J/O picked it up in his left hand and shot himself - with the bullet exiting through the right side of his skull.

And then there's the whole concept of ambidexterity... apparently the faire esquire didn't get that memo.

8/29/2018 01:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They just want to get paid.
Rahm, write them a check.

8/29/2018 01:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unbelievable. Shit like this will continue as long as the city politicians payout tax payers money. It's no wonder people are leaving Cook County.

8/29/2018 02:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Jiminy Cricket said...

Ok no sarcasm in this post because it deserves some serious commentary.
Is this family fucking stupid!!? They saw this kid shoot himself in the head on video. They SAW him with the gun in his hand and pull the trigger. What’s inconclusive?! Their sanity? This hack lawyer’s credentials?
Hey Ed, do the city a favor and toss policy aside. Release the footage so the whole world can see what ignorance looks like. It’s sad this kid shot himself, but his family and their dime store lawyer are just making shit worse now trying to make a paycheck off of his suicide. They’re the prime example of why this city has gone to hell.

8/29/2018 02:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now given the backgrounds and the expertise that "community members" have would they be able to challenge physicians and say they disagree with their findings on such tests as xray, CT scans, MRIs et.al. Will they disagree with a military General on his battle plan? It's getting to that point.

8/29/2018 02:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why doesnt CPD ask for the names of the bullshit "eyewitnesses?" and make them swear to an affidavit and explain to them if they lie they will be prosecuted? Like someone said before..its amazing all these fucking animals can be eyewitnesses to police shootings but not 1 person EVER sees a black on black or gang shootings! They may not have many businesses in the ghetto but it sure seems like they have ALOT of LAW offices! I would be willing to bet that these lawyers are on scene before they even carry the body away, money hungry SCUMBAGS!

8/29/2018 04:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-cop-murder-black-teen-20180828-story.html

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/28/ex-texas-cop-guilty-murder-for-killing-unarmed-black-teen.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/08/officer-roy-oliver-guilty-murder-killing-jordan-edwards-180828194523334.html


Why do any Police work in these areas so I can end up like this Officer and Van Dyke both instances refusing Police commands stop the vehicle and drop the knife? Look at how the media all over the country the world celebrates these events Officers being convicted it's so demoralizing?

8/29/2018 04:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

8/29/2018 04:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, if a video is inconclusive, how can they say the police shot this future brain surgeon? News and police reports say that not 1 shot was fired from any officer's weapon on scene so, Obviously, they CANNOT PROVE the police shot this highly intellectual. Dont eyewitness statements concur with police body cams? I guess the eyewitnesses chased down this idiot with police and witnessed every move? I guess police somehow planted a weapon on him, covered his hand in residue and forced the moron to use his left hand (when he is right handed) to shoot himself (remember he has to hold up his pants with his right hand while running)...sounds all legit. M.E. ruled suicide, lets move on.

8/29/2018 04:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After roll call, I washed my balls and checked my Deffered Comp before I took a nap yesterday. Then I went home.

8/29/2018 04:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My question is, where they getting the money for all these lawyers and investigators and experts? If I had to get these I would never have the scratch for that and I work for the city and have two part-time jobs???

8/29/2018 04:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmmm......the day of the incident, didn't the 1st witnesses state that the Police shot him in the back of the head while they were downstairs and the kid was upstairs. Maybe we have a mystery shooter that was on the landing and got startled by the kid running upstairs and shot him and disappeared.

8/29/2018 05:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know I post this comment often but seriously, who wants this job anymore? Are there any "senior" coppers with adult children still pushing their kids to come on the job? Please chime in as to why/why not.

8/29/2018 05:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any witnesses or plaintiffs in a civil lawsuit should have to submit to a polygraph before filing or testifying.

8/29/2018 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“We’re not sure exactly what happened,” Stroth said (But we know CPD murdered him)

Why is Flaky horning in on the westside preachers territory?

8/29/2018 06:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop playing police !!! These were probably young tact offices trying to do their job and make an inpact. Now they want their names ? The city will release them and their lives will forever be ruined. Stress , family troubles , a cloud of doubt ... just to name a few things that can follow these young officers . And for what ? The community doesn't want the police there . Let them police themselves , and by them , I mean the "community" . Now police make people shoot themselves ??? priceless . STOP CHASING ANYONE !!! Not worth it . Stay safe and use your head before acting.

8/29/2018 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Expert eyewitnesses all over the place who have 20/20 vision at night-yet when 75 people’s get shot over one weekend, not one single person saw nothin’ or nobodies...

8/29/2018 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It never mattered what the video showed. Their claims would've stayed the same.

8/29/2018 06:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No Ghetto lottery for these Motherfuckers !

8/29/2018 06:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No matter what the experts say, we will not be denied our golden ticket for the ghetto lottery! He did not kill hisself! We demand cash, uh, justice!

8/29/2018 07:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He was a guard on Cranes basketball team. Anyone who knows anything about ballers know guards cross over dribble all the time, and are self trained ambidextrous . Call the next case.

8/29/2018 07:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lovey & Co rejected the case because they know it's a loser the family had to get this third rate no name lawyer who is praying that Rham does what he usually does and just write a check to keep the ghetto rats voting democratic.
Is Fr Faker there to say a prayer or just to help make a socialist political statement?
The Pope needs to rid the church of Faker and Flaky the "Code of silence Cardinal".

8/29/2018 07:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lovey & Co rejected the case because they know it's a loser the family had to get this third rate no name lawyer who is praying that Rham does what he usually does and just write a check to keep the ghetto rats voting democratic.
Is Fr Faker there to say a prayer or just to help make a socialist political statement?
The Pope needs to rid the church of Faker and Flaky the "Code of silence Cardinal".

8/29/2018 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lovey & Co rejected the case because they know it's a loser the family had to get this third rate no name lawyer who is praying that Rham does what he usually does and just write a check to keep the ghetto rats voting democratic.
Is Fr Faker there to say a prayer or just to help make a socialist political statement?
The Pope needs to rid the church of Faker and Flaky the "Code of silence Cardinal".

8/29/2018 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man disappointed that Jabari parker was out there especially with him having a brother and uncle on the job. Kid shot himself get over it. There is no cover up!

8/29/2018 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe CPD could recreate the events for the Bottom Feeder ? With the same results !

8/29/2018 07:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok no sarcasm in this post because it deserves some serious commentary.
Is this family fucking stupid!!? They saw this kid shoot himself in the head on video. They SAW him with the gun in his hand and pull the trigger. What’s inconclusive?! Their sanity? This hack lawyer’s credentials?
Hey Ed, do the city a favor and toss policy aside. Release the footage so the whole world can see what ignorance looks like. It’s sad this kid shot himself, but his family and their dime store lawyer are just making shit worse now trying to make a paycheck off of his suicide. They’re the prime example of why this city has gone to hell.

Since the "Family" and the Douchebag Lawyer have made all the statements , release the video, sure it's fucking graphic. However in the respawn video game age maybe some "folks " and "peoples" need to see it and how FINAL it really is and besides on a final note

Q: What would the family be doing if youngster got shot by another hood rat?

A: Not a fucking thing.

8/29/2018 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dont worry the 50 aldercreatures will write them a check!

8/29/2018 07:39:00 AM  
Blogger grunt archangel said...

Prove it ambulance chaser

8/29/2018 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Strogh is an entertainment lawyer, who decided to start jumping on the ‘civil rights’ bandwagon in about 2016. Right around the height of the anti police movement. Maybe he figured there was an endless flow of money in this field. He recently lost in court against the city of Zion for a police shooting. If this 10th district incident was a good case don’t you think Loevy and Loevy would have been all over this? Slanderous lawyers like Stroth just get the table scraps from the law firms who have made millions upon millions over the last couple decades suing the city.

8/29/2018 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Folks will believe what they want to believe. Besides these are grieving parents.

8/29/2018 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why didn't he just shoot himself in the leg?

8/29/2018 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's one eyewitness being coached

https://m.facebook.com/1147254878/posts/10217241969818437/

8/29/2018 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just give us a million or 2 and we will go away.

8/29/2018 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When is Rahm going to stand up to the ghetto rats trying to hit the lottery? Rahm and the dummycrats cause this nononsense and it’s truly sickening. Joyce is in to split the white vote. Rahm set it all up.

8/29/2018 08:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't foot care, don't car chase, don't stop anyone. Just answer the radio and go to your calls. Be safe and God Bless!

8/29/2018 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A basketball player would be skilled at using both hands. They have to use both hands for dribbling.

8/29/2018 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only answer they need is why son was such a pos.

8/29/2018 08:36:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Some time ago, CPD and police officers were sued because a suspect overdosed and died when he decided to swallow the heroin he had stuff up his anus, little plastic baggies and all, while being held in lock up. Family sued and their lawyer hired an expert doctor from another state to do a second, a third, then a fourth autopsy report. The Cook County medical examiner had already concluded the suspect died from asphyxiation (stopped breathing) do to heroin overdose sufficient to kill a horse. The most astute of you will know we all stop breathing when we die.
The second autopsy report (price tag $5,000) indicated asphyxiation as the primary cause with no mention of the heroin. The third autopsy report (price tag $5,000 more) named asphyxiation do to police misconduct. The fourth autopsy report (price tag $5,000 more) named asphyxiation do to external strangulation by police officers. That was gathered because the suspect had small scratches inside his throat from swallowing plastic baggies. So for a mere $15,000.00, an expert was able to develop the story needed for a jury. Corporation Counsel even stated in the closing argument that the more the Defense Attorney paid for the subsequent autopsy reports, the more favorable the autopsy report. From overdose to strangulation! This case will go from a suicide to SWAT hiding behind a bush ready to ambush and kill a poor Black and future basketball player/physicist ... just watch. Pass the popcorn please!!!

8/29/2018 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Step and spin the lottery wheel. Then run home and have another little bastard, who knows in 15-20 years you might be lucky enough to spin the ghetto lottery wheel again.

8/29/2018 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a black man first and foremost I have more questions than answers and more importantly I have no solutions to the black violence plaguing this city...

8/29/2018 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Q: What would the family be doing if youngster got shot by another hood rat?

A: Not a fucking thing.

8/29/2018 12:20:00 AM

Ain't no ghetto lottery money in suing another broke ass pos...

8/29/2018 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's just like the girl who accidentally locked her self in the cooler in rosemont. video showed her staggering around intoxicated barely able to walk and the family cried conspiracy the entire time. Ignore the facts and try to blame everyone else.

8/29/2018 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watched the video of news conference from link, seeing father flaky with the justice shirt on,and lmao as the "uncle" says he is not happy with the dead gang bangers and the families name being disparaged. They cannot believe how quickly body was removed from scene (gee assholes do ya think maybe the police did not want to confront more savages escaping from their section 8 free apartments and being attacked?).

They want the big payout, you can bet "pandering rahm" is talking to the fiance chairman ed Burke and discussing this before the election how much!

Then this headline:
Officer Van Dyke speaks out for the first time since shooting Laquan McDonald 16 times

You can read it at breaking news if you choose, if the leaders of CPD many who quickly retired after ruling "good shoot" then having political winds fiercely blowing in their faces and changed their stories, if they would of stuck to the truth and showed Jason followed the law, we would not be in this situation today! By the way now Gary you know when the mayor looked at that video care to finally man up and be truthful about that? Or are you waiting until you siphon some votes from Vallas to help rahm and get that big security contract?

The bigger problem with all of this beside rahm giving up about 6 million in taxpayers cash to the family who were absent parents, this consent decree that little lisa is pushing,all the criminal activity that is welcomed by rahm,kimmy,tommy,and toni could of been avoided! JVD trial starts 04SEP18 are we ready? Is the national guard getting peopped? are the gas teams ready? Of course not this is not your fathers police department is being led by scared political cowards who are only there to hide,and sacrifice hard working police officers to allow them to get the undeserved pension payoffs!

8/29/2018 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Family Bees a looki'n for $$$$$$$!

8/29/2018 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical democrat, you cannot confuse them with the truth or facts. They only subscribe to fake news, lies and liberal propaganda.

8/29/2018 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Almost the same bs as when the girl walked into not the freezer and became an ice pop. Eventually the aholes will go away.

8/29/2018 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If he was a guard on his high school basketball team, that means he was probably skilled a dribbling with either hand. So why couldn't he shot himself with either hand?

8/29/2018 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Auntie said she would sue the city of the video was released. Someone will have FOIA it if they want to get it out there.

8/29/2018 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Police Reform NOW!"

8/29/2018 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

City better not pay out a dime to these scumbags for this suicide.

8/29/2018 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why even chase these "youths" anymore? Let them run around and shoot each other, then respond to the scene, call for cfd or allied and give them a report. Then you can go get a car wash and lunch, then call it a day.

Give these people what they want.

8/29/2018 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
It’s nice to see Father Flaker with the attorney and family. You see Bafoon superintendent this why you don’t participate in political marches with anti police activists

8/29/2018 12:17:00 AM

Blessed father gots to bless the money —- aren’t Catholics a rare thing in the south and west side shittter... everyone over there is some sort of baptist.

8/29/2018 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why hasn’t “rham’s Poleec payout industrial complex” sent a check out yet— COPA hurry up an agree with the family, shit check off those boxes already- Poleec were wrong for chasin—

To the family—- just say “the Poleec were running so hard, they are virtually modern day slave catchers in the community”— you will get sum muney

8/29/2018 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You don’t do anything and you still get sued. Unbelievable

8/29/2018 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it possible he accidentally shot himself?
Anyhoooo......(yawn).

8/29/2018 12:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Inconclusive is Settlement terminology.
Phfabulous Phfriar Phfelcher was there for mediation on the solid dolla amounts.
His representation and appearance speaks volumes for compensation.
Remember when JJJSr was the expert go-to guy?

Forget the useless Dart ankle monitors, put a BWC on all Cook Co I-Bonded violent armed feral that are swiftly released.

Blaming the Police is never going to go out of fashion.
Cool those jets and Stay Fetal, Rahm needs and is looking for another scapegoat - right quick.

8/29/2018 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They have made it almost impossible to be the police. Blacks are such communists it's not even funny.

8/29/2018 01:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officers on scene will be fired before election to pander for votes stop doing Police work in these areas.

8/29/2018 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Release the video. Lets the world see what happened.

8/29/2018 02:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The family and community is probably why the boy killed himself.

8/29/2018 02:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can lead blind hoodrats to evidence, but you can't make them see.

8/29/2018 04:11:00 PM  
Blogger Charlie said...

It's time for Police Officers involved to start suing the accusers and also the accuser's lawyer.

8/29/2018 05:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Rahm had any balls he would let the city legal team sue this dumbass "lawyer"

8/29/2018 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone actually believe that there is someone close to this kid who actually knew his handedness?

8/29/2018 06:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God himself could have been there to bear witness and it wouldn't fly with the family nor the 'community'. The truth doesn't provide gibs. The truth doesn't allow the false narrative of a racist and violent CPD. The truth doesn't get Rahm elected and the dem machine to suck every dime it can from taxpayers. Chitcago is done.

8/29/2018 07:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/29/police-fury-disgusting-bystanders-filmed-injured-officer-knocked/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget

8/29/2018 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogger Charlie said...
It's time for Police Officers involved to start suing the accusers and also the accuser's lawyer.

8/29/2018 05:23:00 PM

Do it even if you have to pay a few thousand out of pocket!

8/29/2018 10:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The shot was clearly taken from the grassy knoll.

8/29/2018 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Their eyewitness = a liar

8/30/2018 02:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Body cameras haven't helped one bit. This is the second police shooting that was caught on camera that backed the police side of the story and people still refuse to believe.

8/30/2018 04:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@8/29 10:35PM LMAO@ grassy knoll.

8/30/2018 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Blogger Charlie said...
It's time for Police Officers involved to start suing the accusers and also the accuser's lawyer.

8/29/2018 05:23:00 PM

Do it even if you have to pay a few thousand out of pocket!


Sounds like a good idea, but it will cost more than a few thousand dollars
Plus you aren’t going to win. Lawyers know what they can get away with and know the limits and how to say it. Like we want more proof, to view additional body cameras, autopsy report

8/30/2018 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Blogger Charlie said...
It's time for Police Officers involved to start suing the accusers and also the accuser's lawyer.

8/29/2018 05:23:00 PM

Do it even if you have to pay a few thousand out of pocket!

8/29/2018 10:21:00 PM

A couple of guys are going to put that in practice. Lawsuits already in the pipeline to be publicized n the fall right around when Rahm formally announces his re election. Also, a lot of adverse info, lawsuits, and hits against CPD exempt cronies and the politicos that love them going to flood the airwaves . Enjoy the show.

8/30/2018 02:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A few witnesses stated they heard a shot come from the 6th floor of the abando and others reported seeing the shot come from the grassy knole in the cut! Either way, I smell conspiracy.

8/30/2018 02:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are trying really hard to win the ghetto lottery.
I hope and pray that the tables get turned and the auntie and the sheister get sued.

8/30/2018 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

City of Chicago needs to release ALL police involved shootings to shut up all these ghetto rats !!!!!

8/30/2018 08:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

City of Chicago needs to release ALL police involved shootings to shut up all these ghetto rats !!!!!

8/30/2018 08:32:00 PM

You are showing your naivete. Nothing will ever stop the conspiracy theorist/ghetto rat from loud mouthing. Irrefutable evidence and experts mean nothing to them. The passage of time might lessen the intensity and the number of loud mouthers, but there are no guarantees.

8/31/2018 01:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The truth doesn't pay very well, lies on the other hand insure a big payday in an election year.

8/31/2018 08:16:00 PM  

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